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The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: NewOrder on September 15, 2004, 02:00:14 PM

Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: NewOrder on September 15, 2004, 02:00:14 PM
How do you feel about a LBT where the main idea is some sort of love relation between Littlefoot and Ali?
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Malte279 on September 15, 2004, 04:52:49 PM
In a way that's exactly what happened in the land before time IV. I don't think that just "friendship" desribes the relationship between Ali and Littlefoot. Otherwise there would be no difference between the "friendship" between Littlefoot and Ali, or Littlefoot and Mo, or Littlefoot and Cera, Ducky, Petrie, Spike etc.
Personally I like the idea of the romance between Littlefoot and Ali.
However, they are both still kids and their kind of love is different from the love between grownups. In Germany this would be called a "sandbox-love", a love between kids without any sexual ulterior motive. This love is very frequent, and maybe one could even impute a less intense variant of this kind of love to Cera (notice she gets ALWAYS jealous if Littlefoot is fond of anybody or at least expresses her dislike of whomever Littlefoot is fond of).
I do not think that Littlefoot and the others even know about sexuality thus far (e.g. the talk about Babies between Littlefoot and his grandparents in LBT 2, or the fact that Littlefoot was not aware that he has a dad in LBT 10), and they probably would have to grow up to develop that kind of maturity. As I'm a strict opponent of the idea of letting the LBT characters grow up I also have to oppose the idea of a relationship that goes beyond that "sandbox-love" described above.
They are certainly going to keep any sexual content out of the land before time. Although I am somewhat surprised at how many parents are absolutely intolerant about their kids watching anything that has to do with sexuality while they have no problem with their kids watching horrible violent movies, I guess I suport the idea of not going beyond that "sandbox-love".
There are land before time fans who thought a lot about an actual sexual relationship between LBT characters, especially Ali and Littlefoot. I know that they wrote fanfictions, and drew pictures of this. Many of these fans are frequent writers in forums and they just take part in discussions like everyone. This is perfectly fine with me. So long they don't put their stuff up in public forums (thus enforcing that stuff on people who don't want to look at it) that are not created for that kind of stuff I do not object anything that is their private business.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: NewOrder on September 15, 2004, 06:55:58 PM
Yeah, when I was looking for lbt stuff on http://search.msn.com (http://search.msn.com) (just a little publicity here (kidding)) I found this lbt fanfiction where a guy wrote about Littlefoot having sex with Cera. Personally I don't like those things cause it's sort of moking with lbt... Anyway, I guess it would be cool if universal explored that sandbox - love between Ali and Littlefoot maybe with some other longneck characters getting involved and causing troubles between the "couple", maybe that would interest some a bit older kids to watch it.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Malte279 on September 17, 2004, 08:01:06 AM
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Anyway, I guess it would be cool if universal explored that sandbox - love between Ali and Littlefoot maybe with some other longneck characters getting involved and causing troubles between the "couple"...

Shorty from LBT 10 perhaps. In my oppinion he is the most interesting new character from LBT 10, though they could've done so much more about him.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: NewOrder on September 17, 2004, 03:15:51 PM
I haven't seen that one yet \: Is he a mail long neck? Maybe they could make him get interested in Ali and then Littlefoot would get jeoulous (too much sopie like but I think it can work)
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Petrie on September 17, 2004, 09:25:44 PM
I've seen that Littlefoot/Cera sex story before.  :o   And it wasn't just Cera that got it either....

I'm not sure that such a thing would be a good idea.  I mean, I know us older members may like it to bring some drama to the series but would a little kid who the show is meant for actually understand the topic of the "birds and the bees"?  It's not so much the fact that parents may not like it, but would the children understand that they would be partners for life like their mothers and fathers are (hopefully)?  

I guess they could maintain a good relations friendship between the two characters.

Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: NewOrder on September 18, 2004, 08:26:00 AM
Yeah... I guess you're right, but maybe they could start to do some LBT series targeted for teenagers, still doing the one's for the kids... I think they could still mantain the magic and get it more interesting
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Malte279 on September 18, 2004, 04:02:02 PM
It's almost pointless to even think about that, as they simply won't start such a land before time series aimed at teenagers. No way they are going to do that. Even if they did, I'm quite sure I for my part wouldn't like it. The changes that have been done to the series in some of the resent sequels were bad enough.
Actually there are story elements in LBT that are not exactly aimed at little kids only. It's just that they don't put much emphasis on such elements (like the dead of a whole herd that followed Pterano, or allusions which are certainly meant to give older people who watch the movies a smile, like in case of that talk between Littlefoot and his grandparents in LBT 2).
I would DEFINITELY NOT appreciate anything like that Littlefoot and Cera story. As I said, sort of pointless to speculate about something that will certainly not happen.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Petrie on September 18, 2004, 07:55:53 PM
I'm pretty sure you won't see THAT in any upcoming LBT story. :P
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Megatoph on May 06, 2006, 02:07:18 PM
I am reactivating this topic. I always had the feeling that there was something between the two. (I have the ability to feel this love) in fact if you look at the way Ali looks at littlefoot you'll understand this like I do. they were made for each other.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Petrie. on May 07, 2006, 07:56:35 AM
I'd say all the hints were there that they certainly liked each other....certainly is a shortage of apatosaurs in the valley for Littlefoot.  :P:  Whether or not any of this means anything down the road is anyone's guess.  We're thinking of it in human terms too....not all animals feel the same attraction for one another outside of continuing the species....
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Nick22 on May 07, 2006, 05:22:44 PM
There is something there clearly,although whether otr not it gets developed later on in the series or Tv show remains to be seen.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Megatoph on May 07, 2006, 05:36:13 PM
well I hope there is. I really do. I used this Idea for my story on FF.net its strange for me to write though but it works well for the story. Ali and LF will defenently be uh together in my next LBT Fan Fiction.  ;)
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 07, 2006, 08:06:57 PM
I do think the Ali/Littlefoot pairing is cute. Hmm...Malte, what did you mean by "sandbox-love" in your earlier posts?
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Megatoph on May 07, 2006, 10:58:36 PM
chapter 6 on my FF.net story is now up.

well if the two ever do get together it would be interesting. first of all I would like to know how Littlefoots friends would take it? second how would his grand perants take it?
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Nick22 on May 08, 2006, 09:29:22 AM
Darkhou, 'sand-box' is the German equivalent of 'ppuppy-love" which is usually used to describe the first crush  a person experiences.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Malte279 on May 08, 2006, 09:41:35 AM
...which usually differs from the adults' perception of love.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 08, 2006, 12:06:50 PM
Ah, I see.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Megatoph on May 08, 2006, 07:00:53 PM
well I hope they do get together. :P:  :D
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: lbt/cty_lover on November 21, 2007, 04:28:54 PM
Even though LBT IV showed the start of a relationship between Littlefoot and Ali, it could be more developed in a sequel.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 21, 2007, 07:51:12 PM
I hope that when they get older, they develop a serious relationship, but I don't think an entire sequel should be based off of that and that alone.  They are the most obvious match we've seen so far in LBT (in the children anyways).
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: lbt/cty_lover on November 21, 2007, 08:35:33 PM
That is true. If there was a sequel where they are older, then I suspect to see Ali and Littlefoot. Until then, I'll just read the fan fiction pieces here for that relationship.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on April 17, 2017, 08:45:49 AM
Little Foot and Ali romantically works on a chemistry level, but not on a story level. Ali, like Little Foot's father Bron, migrates and is Bedouin like, while Little Foot prefers the safety and security of The Great Valley. This I think hampers the relationship. I however, have not seen the episode of the LBT Series where Ali appears.

As for a series aimed at teenagers. The demographic barrier is that dinosaur enthusiasts are usually kids, and then adults who couldn't shirk their love for them and become Paleontologists. The closest a teen gets to dinosaurs is probably Jurassic World and the rest of Jurassic Park franchise. Its not that dinosaurs aren't cool, its that animated dinosaurs (though we love them) aren't going to appeal to teens same way they do to kids. Then again I could be wrong, I just think that The Land Before Time wouldn't work in a teenage spin off or even adult spin off, the reason is innocence, the franchise is fueled on innocent characters like Ducky, Spike, and Petrie, even Little Foot has lots of innocence and purity, Cera, well she is the most teen like of the Gang.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Dracorider19 on April 17, 2017, 09:08:15 AM
I can easily understand the potential Ali and Littlefoot have for becoming romantically involved. Although I don't really ship them, I don't really mind if they get into a relationship or not. Of course, since the series is mainly geared towards children, this is considerably unlikely to happen. I personally wouldn't care if Ali and Littlefoot didn't get into a relationship at all, and it's even possible they could both remain single.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Sneak on April 17, 2017, 10:03:26 AM
answering on first post question:

No.
No.
NO

at least for first two dozens years. :p
after that - who knows...
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on April 17, 2017, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: Dracorider19,Apr 17 2017 on  08:08 AM
I can easily understand the potential Ali and Littlefoot have for becoming romantically involved. Although I don't really ship them, I don't really mind if they get into a relationship or
not. Of course, since the series is mainly geared towards children, this is considerably unlikely to happen. I personally wouldn't care if Ali and Littlefoot didn't get into a relationship at all, and it's even possible they could both remain single.
I agree with you. The most that should or ever come from a romantic relationship between Little Foot and Ali is innocent child like crush. Anything beyond this messes with the spirit of the LBT.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Ducky123 on June 03, 2017, 10:08:29 AM
I guess, since I'm writing a story that includes some sort of romance between Ali and Littlefoot, I might as well have a few words :p

I think there's no doubt that there was some sort of crush between the two in LBT 4. I mean, just look at Ali (I think she's definitely got a crush on Littlefoot, it's debattable whether Littlefoot has a crush on Ali but I think he does :p). The way she looks at Littlefoot with that shy but curious smile, trying to prank him when they first meet and trying to keep him away from his usual friends so she can spend more time with him... I think the signs are obvious :p One thing, though, that probably kept the crush from becoming more is the fact that both were too shy to talk about the feelings towards each other or too occupied with the events. Another possibility is, that they simply didn't know what these feelings meant at the time, only understanding them later as they grow a little bit older.

I do believe that it is possible to make a LBT movie with an ALi-Littlefoot relationship that goes beyond the LBT 4 level of friendship between them. It's just important to keep it child-friendly. I'm sure it would be cute to see these to nuzzling each other (not necessarily kissing, we've never seen any LBT character perform a kiss of any sort) with such a "puppy/sandbox love" slowly evolving throughout the movie. I could picture it somewhat like this:

Typical LBT movie, starts with Gang doing some sort of game/mischief when Ali's herds happens to return to the valley. Of course there's going to be an adventure (what else?) and things will go terribly wrong as always :p  

I'd imagine Ali was feeling very lonely (assuming this is pre-tv-series --> no idiot Rhett :p), yearning to see her friend again. When she does, she'll stick around Littlefoot as much as she can, feeling very attached to him. When they go on an adventure (alone, with the gang?) their relationship may go through some hardship (wouldn't it be too easy otherwise?) which is resolved when Littlefoot saves Ali like a hero (hopefully without Ali turning into a damsel in distress :rolleyes )

I haven't thought about it any further but the idea got something to it, doesn't it?  :idea
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: ADFan185 on June 03, 2017, 11:27:32 AM
I can kinda see them as a couple I think they would be a very good couple I support this shipping fully
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Sneak on June 03, 2017, 01:47:52 PM
sigh... these relationships between characters...

ok, let's see...

For me, Ali acted with Littlefoot like this because she met ANOTHER CHILD LONGNECK. I believe there's not any other children with the same age in Ali's herd, plus, she feared other species very much (answer on keeping him from others). So I wasn't surprised she acted like that.

Curious lovely smile? Well, the same was in Ducky&Littlefoot meeting scene... New relationship? Anyone?   :DD
Thank you, Cera, for your stubborn and bitchy character in original movie. Or people would misinterpret your greeting look towards flathead.  :lol

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Now more seriously:

I wanted to post long post about why I *almost* don't want to see any romantic relationships in current canon LBT timeline and in the most of others fanstories, if some of already familiar characters are involved. But I rather would say more shortly.

Even since I got this "hate feeling" that was formed in me after observing many movies and cartoons, with endless obvious idiotic romance lines, and reading communities, who wants to see, talk, write and read about romantic relationships... Even since that, I do NOT completely reject possibilities of romance in films.

Now... Let's immediately move from general to specific: to our LBT characters:

First: Characters are kids, even during events of last movies, where that definitely grew up a little. So, it is very hardly to feel that  strong feelings to other person.

Second: I believe that they, as people in our normal usual life -  they won't fall in love with FIRST person they ever saw!

In case of Littlefoot and Ali:

Let's talk honestly:

In LBT4, they're just VERY young kids. Kids with their problems that united them for some time: Ali couldn't find any friend for games and talks because of racial problems in early LBT films and her raised uge fear of any possible contact with other species, kids or adults, later, Littlefoot's grandpa got ill very bad, so Littlefoot asked Ali for help.
Both they, with rest of the gang joined later, did huge adventure that solved both of their problems, and after that their herds went different paths.
They almost didn't have a lot of time together. They almost don't know each other due to this lack of time!!!
conclusion: during their FIRST meeting, there's not any chances they felt something.

Now, after their later meetings, including TV episode and some amount of time after that before Ali's departure, and all possible other meetings, till they grew up. Is there a chances they feel something, and later, step into net step of relationship?
Well... Yes. (even considering my personal experience in that)
But this chance, on Littlefoot's side, for example, is equal with any other longneck's female, since Littlefoot is very communicate character (Not as me... :'( ), and I believe, he will go into more huge adventures. :D

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I'm writing a story that includes some sort of romance between Ali and Littlefoot
I hope you're writing about grown-up characters? ;)
Otherwise... YOU'RE ON MY LIST.
 :anger
 :lol
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: ADFan185 on June 03, 2017, 02:55:28 PM
I will look forward to reading it when it's done
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on June 04, 2017, 05:59:13 AM
Does anyone know what transpired with Ali and Little Foot in the LBT Series?
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Coyote_A on June 04, 2017, 07:37:32 AM
You mean in the TV series? Well, Ali appeared in a single episode and that mainly focused on another young longneck called Rhett and his lies. So, basically... Nothing has transpired between the two. :(
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: ADFan185 on June 04, 2017, 08:18:16 AM
There's nothing wrong with fans writing Land Before Time shipping stories at all. If written well they can be fun to read.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Sneak on June 04, 2017, 10:40:37 AM
Quote from: Coyote_A,Jun 4 2017 on  02:37 PM
Nothing has transpired between the two. :(
why this sad face?
 :neutral
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: ADFan185 on June 04, 2017, 10:56:28 AM
Maybe he wanted them together
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Ducky123 on June 04, 2017, 02:42:21 PM
@Snik

That's okay. Some people think it's super awesome when there's romance in movies and others lie you are not as much interested in it. That's natural. Admittedly, when it comes to romance in movies, I kinda don't like it myself but in animated movies and such, it's usually cute when two characters have a love interest in each other. That's how I feel about these two Longnecks anyway. It's cute :smile

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I hope you're writing about grown-up characters? wink.gif
Otherwise... YOU'RE ON MY LIST.
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uhh... :bolt

(talking about Shorty's Dark Past in case you are really curious)

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Does anyone know what transpired with Ali and Little Foot in the LBT Series?
I take it you haven't seen the Tv-series then?

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I will look forward to reading it when it's done
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There's nothing wrong with fans writing Land Before Time shipping stories at all. If written well they can be fun to read.
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Maybe he wanted them together
You're still spamming mostly meaningless posts, ADFan... it's getting on my nerves  :rolleyes
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: ADFan185 on June 04, 2017, 03:58:26 PM
Ah okay sorry I'll try to do better for now on
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on June 05, 2017, 05:51:41 PM
Quote from: Coyote_A,Jun 4 2017 on  06:37 AM
You mean in the TV series? Well, Ali appeared in a single episode and that mainly focused on another young longneck called Rhett and his lies. So, basically... Nothing has transpired between the two. :(
So they wasted Ali's cameo in the series on a unknown character called Rhett? Ugh. It has been eleven films since Little Foot and Ali were together. I mean Chomper returned only after two films.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Sneak on June 05, 2017, 06:04:44 PM
Yes, they wasted Ali's character appearance. :/
They somehow were able to make 26 episodes, but only 1 episode for guest characters.And it is just horrific. VERY bad and sad.
Better they didn't make 1/3 of that filler(? wow such a word for LBT universe) episodes but make some more characters progress. I would even like Rhett after that. But they failed it. :/
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Littlefoot fan 1990 on June 05, 2017, 06:38:42 PM
I have read and enjoyed a few fanfiction stories featuring a LittlefootXAli romance; some of them show them as adults either just married or are expectant parents. I know that it may never happen in a sequel; but, that's what fanfiction is for; to let your imagination run wild. I don't generally ship these two; but, I have no problem with others who are LittlefootXAli shippers. I just see them as very good friends.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: ADFan185 on June 05, 2017, 08:47:52 PM
I hear you on that it's sad that Ali only appeared in one movie and a one or two episodes. She was a pretty solid character even tho she had only one movie role. Wish they added her in more movies.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on June 06, 2017, 05:06:50 AM
Quote from: Snik,Jun 5 2017 on  05:04 PM
Yes, they wasted Ali's character appearance. :/
They somehow were able to make 26 episodes, but only 1 episode for guest characters.And it is just horrific. VERY bad and sad.
Better they didn't make 1/3 of that filler(? wow such a word for LBT universe) episodes but make some more characters progress. I would even like Rhett after that. But they failed it. :/
Tuska.. ugh.. well then I am glad I did not watch the episode.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Ducky123 on June 06, 2017, 12:53:22 PM
the episode could have been one of the best if they hadn't butchered Ali's character....
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Sneak on June 06, 2017, 01:51:06 PM
Quote from: Ducky123,Jun 6 2017 on  07:53 PM
the episode could have been one of the best if they hadn't butchered Ali's character....
well, since Ali doesn't play ANY active role here, and acts as kinda foolish girl... I don't see any reason why this episode can be good. Sorry.
Because even IF gang's actions were cool, still - it's episode of Ali's visit. ALI'S. And it had to include Ali as main character here, with cool "adventure".

The problem could be solved very easily - with the second or even third damn episode with her (and Rhett's) appearance.
Title: Ali and Littlefoot
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on June 06, 2017, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: Ducky123,Jun 6 2017 on  11:53 AM
the episode could have been one of the best if they hadn't butchered Ali's character....
That is my greatest criticism of the LBT series, it altered characters and became almost Kindergarten in dialogue. How did the Gang of Five go from iambic pentameter songs in the first ten films, but then suddenly they can only sing songs with simplistic lyrics?, "Icky stinky, no, no, no!.."   :rolleyes

The LBT Series led to the horrific 13th film.  :neutral