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The Land Before Time => 1988 Theatrical Release => Topic started by: Bruton the Iguanodon on December 19, 2011, 09:30:01 PM

Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on December 19, 2011, 09:30:01 PM
As good as it is, I think the first LBT could have been better. There are a lot of things I would have liked---for it to be much longer, for one. I feel like we didn't get enough of the whole journey to the great valley---the whole gang doesn't even come together until the last 25 minutes of this hour-long film. Also, there are some scenes I would like to have changed a bit. Firstly, that shot of Mama longneck looking down at her son needs red-done...it's creepy. I'd also like the line "All that remained of his herd was his mother, grandfather, and grandmother." He's not the leader of the herd! I would have much prefered a line like, "All that remained of one herd was a mother, and her own parents." That way they actually tell us what side of the family Littlefoot's grandparents are on, rather then just have us imply it based on how Bron adresses Gradnpa Longneck in 10. Thirdly, I'd like the death of Littlefoot's mom to be much longer, not overly long but I feel it was way to short in the version we got. And show the death as it happened, don't end the scene with it being from far away (OK, maybe the final pan out they can do that, but not the death itself.) I'd also like them to find Spike already born and the same freakin age as the gang, rather be a baby one minute and then same age as the rest of the gang when he comes out of the brown patch of grass. I'd like more scenes with the Sharptooth---I feel he did not get enough screentime. I'd like them to have Littlefoot find the great valley on his own and then rush back to save the others. I don't like how suddenly at the end of the version we know he's alone for no reason and suddenly all hopeless...it probably won't bother younger viewers but it makes no sense unless you know about the original ending. I'd like an explanation of how Ducky and Spike fell onto the ledge in the lave, and how they, Littlefoot and Petrie escaped the tar. Also, I'd probably cut out that random stampeed of longnecks appearing out of the middle of nowhere. I'd make Topps the right color at the end, and show Cera's mom and sisters if they made it to the valey. And I'd deifintely cut out that overdone series of flashbacks of Littlefoot's life. Much of the film is beautiful. That, I thought, was overkill, though (no offense to people wh thought it wasn't!) Oh, and put in Littlefoot's last line of always being together. Oh, and one last thing---have Ducky say, "He was our friend" when Petrie apparently dies, not "He was my friend", and show all of them running to him when he comes back, not just Ducky.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: LBTLover1 on December 19, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
1. the shot was supposed to be creepy...it's littlefoot's first look at his mom.

2. He doesn't own the herd, it simply saying that it is his possession such as my family.  I'm not the leader of my family but it is still my family.

3. It's a kid's movie...they can't show death for too long or the G-rating will increase to PG

4. True

5. Agreed

6. He went to sulk over his loss in finding the Great Valley.  That's why he was alone.

7. Agreed

8. The valley was brighter so his color was brighter

9. Understandable

10. NOO!!  That's the most important part of the movie...his flashbacks.  Without them, he can't recall to his past and figure all he has gone through to get to the single his mother told him about.  Removing that just ruins the effects of a goal.

11. The movie is 38% beautiful.  I don't know what you're talking about.
Sharptooth kills Mother
Littlefoot starves himself
Meaness from Cera
Battle between Littlefoot and Cera
Loss of courage from almost everyone
Cera's shock of excerption from the anonymous domehead
etc.

12. Petrie was Ducky's biggest friend of all the families.  It would've made sense if she said that.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on December 20, 2011, 03:07:45 AM
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3. It's a kid's movie...they can't show death for too long or the G-rating will increase to PG

Still, the scene could have been at least little longer!




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6. He went to sulk over his loss in finding the Great Valley. That's why he was alone.

Are you talking about after the fight with Cera in the original cut? Cause yeah, I can understand why he'd be alone there---all his friends had just left him, he felt like his search had been in vain, and so on. In the current version it makes no sense. They had defeated Sharptooth, which should give them motivation, and there wasn't any reason why Littlefoot should have been alone. All in all it's pretty clear the scene belonged in its original form.

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8. The valley was brighter so his color was brighter

We see him in the valley in what 11 of the 12 sequels and he's always the right color

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11. The movie is 38% beautiful. I don't know what you're talking about.

I don't know what you're talking about...where'd you get the calculation of 38%?!!  :blink:
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Dilopho on December 20, 2011, 04:08:43 AM
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...I'd also like them to find Spike already born and the same freakin age as the gang, rather be a baby one minute and then same age as the rest of the gang...

He is as old as the others but he is only to lazy to get out of the egg. In my opinion there are two different sizes, because the egg would be too large when Ducky cracks the shell.
The same is when Cera and Tops meet at the end. You have to see both to know what is going on. With Cera much smaller you would only see Tops tip of the snout or Cera as a small dot on the screen.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: DarkHououmon on December 20, 2011, 09:13:11 AM
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Still, the scene could have been at least little longer!

I disagree. I feel the scene was long enough. It delivered its purpose and was powerful as it is. Making it longer won't really add anything to it at all. It would only make it longer; it won't make it stronger.

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Are you talking about after the fight with Cera in the original cut? Cause yeah, I can understand why he'd be alone there---all his friends had just left him, he felt like his search had been in vain, and so on. In the current version it makes no sense. They had defeated Sharptooth, which should give them motivation, and there wasn't any reason why Littlefoot should have been alone. All in all it's pretty clear the scene belonged in its original form.

I think LBTLover1 was referring to the end of the movie, where Littlefoot is calling out to his mother up in the sky and tells her that he would never find The Great Valley. LBTLover1 did say that he was "sulking over the loss of finding the Great Valley" and he doesn't do this when he fights with Cera and leaves; he does this at the end after Petrie is found to be alive.

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We see him in the valley in what 11 of the 12 sequels and he's always the right color

You shouldn't go by the sequels regarding this. The first movie was created and directed by different people than the sequels, and things were done differently. Just because he's the right color all the time in the sequels doesn't mean that the same thing is true in the first movie.

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I don't know what you're talking about...where'd you get the calculation of 38%?!! blink.gif

I think that was just a guess on his part.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Malte279 on December 20, 2011, 09:49:23 AM
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They had defeated Sharptooth, which should give them motivation, and there wasn't any reason why Littlefoot should have been alone. All in all it's pretty clear the scene belonged in its original form.
There was an explanation in one land before time book which I like. If I translate it to English (the scene is right after Petrie's survival) it reads:
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Littlefoot, who had already walked ahead heard the shouts of joy of his friends behind him. He understood immediately what had happened. But he didn't stop. His heart was aching with yearning for his mother who would never return. He had to be alone, now, with her and with his thoughts.
I think it is quite plausible that the joyous return of Petrie could work as a trigger for such emotion in Littlefoot who had so long in vain hoped for his Mum to return.
I too would prefer the original version in which Littlefoot found the Valley but returned to get the others, but I don't see his lack of spirit even after the defeat of Sharptooth implausible.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on December 20, 2011, 04:18:25 PM
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There was an explanation in one land before time book which I like. If I translate it to English (the scene is right after Petrie's survival) it reads:
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Littlefoot, who had already walked ahead heard the shouts of joy of his friends behind him. He understood immediately what had happened. But he didn't stop. His heart was aching with yearning for his mother who would never return. He had to be alone, now, with her and with his thoughts.

I thought the book had Littlefoot finding the valley on his own...is there another one?

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I think it is quite plausible that the joyous return of Petrie could work as a trigger for such emotion in Littlefoot who had so long in vain hoped for his Mum to return.
I too would prefer the original version in which Littlefoot found the Valley but returned to get the others, but I don't see his lack of spirit even after the defeat of Sharptooth implausible.

I still don't like it. The way it is I just can't feel sorry for Littlefoot as I would if it was in the appropriate place. The scene belongs in the original intended context.

By the way, can someone write down a list of scenes from either book that aren't in the movie? Mainly the ones people have noted are the ones that there are pictures for evidence of, but I also know there's one right after Littlefoot hatching where Grandpa actually has a spoken line (possibly Bill Erwin's lost role) about how small the newly born Littlefoot's feet are and from there his mom names him Littlefoot (not a very wise choice, Momma longneck...he's not going to be a baby forever, even if you want him to.) This proves there are scenes in the book we haven't even mentioned. I tried looking for the full text of the book online, but alas, it's not there. I can only rely now on fans who happen to have it who are generous enough to donate their time to write down what scenes are exclusive to the novel. They may not even be part of the original cut, but it'd be cool to know just in case.  ;)
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: LBTLover1 on December 20, 2011, 05:26:29 PM
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I think LBTLover1 was referring to the end of the movie, where Littlefoot is calling out to his mother up in the sky and tells her that he would never find The Great Valley. LBTLover1 did say that he was "sulking over the loss of finding the Great Valley" and he doesn't do this when he fights with Cera and leaves; he does this at the end after Petrie is found to be alive.

I did mean that at the end.  However, I'm not sure why he went alone until Malte read the quote from the book.

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I think that was just a guess on his part.

It was a guess.  However, is was an accurate approximate guess.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on December 21, 2011, 04:42:39 AM
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With Cera much smaller you would only see Tops tip of the snout or Cera as a small dot on the screen.

Oh yeah, and a really small child next to a really large parental has prevented us from seeing both before...

(http://i40.tinypic.com/bjbthw.jpg)

Yeah, so it's from a later sequel, so what?

I suppose it's cause the grandparents don't have really long snouts or anything.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Malte279 on December 21, 2011, 06:03:02 AM
The scenes are all in the outcut scenes thread. There is a high chance however, that some of them were never part of the movie (e.g. the scene in which Littlefoot is named after his grandpa demonstrates how one of his toes is larger than Littlefoot's entire food) since the come from book adaptations of the movie (rather than the movie being an adaptation of the books) that were written years later. There is actually quite a number of land before time books. The last scene I quoted (as well as the one about Littlefoot's naming) however are both from land before time books that appeared in Germany. I only translated the respective scenes that you will not find in any English land before time book.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on December 21, 2011, 07:09:32 PM
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2. He doesn't own the herd, it simply saying that it is his possession such as my family. I'm not the leader of my family but it is still my family

Still, if it had been stated the way I prefer it would establish that Littlefoot's grandparents are his maternal grandparents, instead of us just implying it from a line in 10

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12. Petrie was Ducky's biggest friend of all the families. It would've made sense if she said that.

Of all the families? RU saying Ducky is closest with Petrie's family? Hmm, I still think they should have shown everyone running to Petrie when he comes back, not just Ducky (this may have been in the original cut as I know there's a pic of everyone else looking back to see he's alright...gosh, I would do anything for the original cut of the original  :bang )
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on December 23, 2011, 03:29:08 PM
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They had defeated Sharptooth, which should give them motivation, and there wasn't any reason why Littlefoot should have been alone. All in all it's pretty clear the scene belonged in its original form.
There was an explanation in one land before time book which I like. If I translate it to English (the scene is right after Petrie's survival) it reads:
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Littlefoot, who had already walked ahead heard the shouts of joy of his friends behind him. He understood immediately what had happened. But he didn't stop. His heart was aching with yearning for his mother who would never return. He had to be alone, now, with her and with his thoughts.

I think it is quite plausible that the joyous return of Petrie could work as a trigger for such emotion in Littlefoot who had so long in vain hoped for his Mum to return.
I too would prefer the original version in which Littlefoot found the Valley but returned to get the others, but I don't see his lack of spirit even after the defeat of Sharptooth implausible.


But we all know in reality that that was not why Littlefoot was upset during that scene, and where it really takes place! Face it, guys, we'd all rather have that scene take place after the fight with Cera and not after Sharptooth's death! If this scene were shown in it's origuinal context, I'd feel so sad for Littlefoot, like I'm supposed to feel. Not mind-boggled as to why he's alone and weirded out that he's suddenly So! F**cking! Hopeless! I'm still hoping that someday the true version of LBT 1 will be released. Cause seriously that scene with his mother as a cloud does not belong after the victory of defeating Sharptooth! I guess the question that could be applied to Littlefoot in that scene is, "If it makes you happy, why the hell are you so sad?" to quote Sheryl Crow.


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11. The movie is 38% beautiful. I don't know what you're talking about.
Sharptooth kills Mother
Littlefoot starves himself
Meaness from Cera
Battle between Littlefoot and Cera
Loss of courage from almost everyone
Cera's shock of excerption from the anonymous domehead
etc.

Gosh, sorry for thinking this movie was good in the least! Sorry if I insinuated that "beautiful" means rainbows and butterflies and laughing, and not well done moments, espicially emotion-evoking ones. Forgive me for thinking this film amazing. You know, when you put it this way I'm not even sure I like it anymore.Thank you so much.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on December 31, 2011, 01:10:47 AM
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The scenes are all in the outcut scenes thread.

All the scenes exclusive to the book? I don't think so. There's one after Littlefoot's hatching where Grandpa gets a speaking role that no one would have mentioned had they not asked about how Littlefoot got his name. Even the few quotes from the book that have been posted have new stuff! I tried googling it but only got results for these forums. I need the help of someone who has the book to transcribe the scenes in it that aren't in the film down! I'm sorry, but I don't know where else to look!
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 27, 2012, 11:21:12 AM
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11. The movie is 38% beautiful. I don't know what you're talking about.
Sharptooth kills Mother
Littlefoot starves himself
Meaness from Cera
Battle between Littlefoot and Cera
Loss of courage from almost everyone
Cera's shock of excerption from the anonymous domehead
etc.

You know perfectly well what I'm talking about. Stop pretneding "beautiful" means sunshine and rainbows and butterflies---it doesn't.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: DarkHououmon on April 27, 2012, 11:32:34 AM
Um no. No they don't know what you meant, Bruton. Otherwise, why would they ask?
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 27, 2012, 11:33:42 AM
Because it was clearly a beautiful movie.

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10. NOO!! That's the most important part of the movie...his flashbacks. Without them, he can't recall to his past and figure all he has gone through to get to the single his mother told him about. Removing that just ruins the effects of a goal.
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They were stupid and pointless
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: DarkHououmon on April 27, 2012, 11:37:57 AM
And yet they didn't know what you meant. There's no reason to get upset about it. You should have just answered their question calmly instead instead of stating that they should know what you meant.

And Littlefoot's flashbacks weren't "stupid" or "pointless". They helped make the ending more emotional, gave more impact. They show all he had been through, and gives a sense of accomplishment that they were all worth it. They are far from stupid and pointless.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 27, 2012, 11:39:08 AM
Yes they are though, it was stuff we'd already seen and known, and far from all of it was shown (whoa, I'm rhyming like Dr. Seuss here) :lol
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Mumbling on April 27, 2012, 01:12:48 PM
Watch your language and the way you act towards others Bruton. Much appreciated.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: DarkHououmon on April 27, 2012, 04:24:27 PM
I don't see how they are stupid, Bruton. Just because you think they are doesn't mean that everyone will agree. And it doesn't mean they have no place. It's your opinion and nothing more. Your opinion is not absolute fact and you shouldn't expect others to adhere to what you believe is good or bad for LBT.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: oogaboo on April 27, 2012, 06:21:40 PM
Anyway, back on topic, the one of many things that I think could have made the movie better is having a more in-depth special features on the disc and make the movie slightly longer.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: DollFace on September 17, 2012, 08:15:49 AM
I honestly believe if the movie was never cut it would have been better, but that is my opinion.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Littlefoot Fan 93 on March 17, 2013, 04:25:37 AM
Quote from: LBTLover1,Dec 19 2011 on  08:39 PM
3. It's a kid's movie...they can't show death for too long or the G-rating will increase to PG



 
Lets thing in a modern context. Back in the 1980's movie rating was more strict then than now, so that a event or a quote that might appear in a modern PG kids movie could go as far a an M for example. In modern kids movies, there is more violence, frightening scenes, and if you listen carefully, a few adult references.  

So I will agree with you Bruton; I would of liked to see more time in before and after Littlefoot's mother's death. the shortness of the scene and the far shot disappointed me. I wanted to see Littlefoot in the moments after her death to see his reactions. Apart from an uncut version of the film, the rest of the film was good for me.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: WeirdRaptor on March 17, 2013, 04:31:04 AM
Actually, I thought the short, stark nature of the scene as is was very effective.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: FreckledOne on March 22, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
Believe it or not, one of the reasons that made the first movie unique to me was that the scene of Littlefoot's mother's death was longer than similar scenes in Disney movies, by which I mean they dwelt upon it more.
In The Lion King it seemed that the filmmakers were desperate to get through Mufasa's death scene and onto the introduction of Timon and Pumbaa to lighten up the movie, and the mother death scene in Bambi was immediately followed by cute chirping birds and happy music. Whereas in LBT Littlefoot is depressed for almost the next three scenes he is in!  :o

Anyway, the only thing that I would want to change in the first movie is the scene where Cera and Littlefoot are playing with the "hopper" in the mud puddle. Littlefoot just looks way too big in comparison to Cera (or Cera looks way too small to Littlefoot). This is rather ridiculous nitpicking, but that's the only thing that I'd change about the movie. It's just that good.  :lol:

I do wish that Universal would remaster it for a new home release (maybe a Blu-ray/DVD combo). Because the so-called "Anniversary Edition" seriously looks like they ripped it from a VHS they found at a flea market.  <_< And this is supposed to be the official version!
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on December 30, 2015, 01:10:45 PM
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3. It's a kid's movie...they can't show death for too long or the G-rating will increase to PG

Still, the scene could have been at least little longer!




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6. He went to sulk over his loss in finding the Great Valley. That's why he was alone.

Are you talking about after the fight with Cera in the original cut? Cause yeah, I can understand why he'd be alone there---all his friends had just left him, he felt like his search had been in vain, and so on. In the current version it makes no sense. They had defeated Sharptooth, which should give them motivation, and there wasn't any reason why Littlefoot should have been alone. All in all it's pretty clear the scene belonged in its original form.

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8. The valley was brighter so his color was brighter

We see him in the valley in what 11 of the 12 sequels and he's always the right color

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11. The movie is 38% beautiful. I don't know what you're talking about.

I don't know what you're talking about...where'd you get the calculation of 38%?!!  :blink:
Why were you so angry with 10? It was just my opinion.

And that wasn't very nice, what you said about 11. I'm pretty sure you knew exactly what I meant.

And then you act as if you're so smart by saying it was a correct estimate.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Dr. Rex on January 02, 2016, 01:03:25 AM
I guess they could've made the movie a little longer. Uncut or simply other material, don't care. 69 minutes never cut it for me even as a kid.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: WeirdRaptor on January 12, 2016, 05:41:50 PM
I think the film is great as is and I think that fans are starting to lose sight of the film they fell in love with to begin with in favor of some supposedly better version they will NEVER see. Hell, we don't even know if any of that lost footage is even worth it.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 12, 2016, 06:34:17 PM
I know it would be. From what we've been told, it all sounds really good. And let's face it, the film does feel too short and incomplete at times.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Ducky123 on January 13, 2016, 05:43:16 AM
If you don't know there are these cutted scenes, you more than likely won't even notice that there's something missing. Prior to finding out about the cuts being made, I didn't notice the cuts. Now, with the knowledge of most cutted scenes and what they may or may not have contained, it almost strikes me whenever I watch the movie... like that rock they killed Sharptooth with is still there, Littlefoot is crying after they defeated Sharptooth, first Littlefoot is shown just standing there in awe when he discoveres the Great Valley and then suddenly he's shown running in skidding to a halt with his friends. Besides, there's the weird edit when first the light slowly expands into the valley but then in the middle of the process it's just suddenly all in the light. Also these differences from the soundtrack... sorry but it can't be ignored.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: NewOrder on January 13, 2016, 07:49:08 AM
I agree with Ducky123. Prior to knowing where the cuts were supposed to be, I didn't really notice them, apart from Littlefoot standing in awe, and then skidding again into the same spot with Petrie on his head.

I do believe some of the cuts would've made the film better, others, like the one's during Sharptooth's first attack, just wouldn't make that much of a difference. Aesthetically perhaps, but only that.

Story wise, I prefer the book's version, where Littlefoot finds the Valley and then runs off to save his friends and show them the way. But that's a personal preference. It doesn't really change the magic of the film.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Dr. Rex on January 31, 2016, 12:32:05 AM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Jan 12 2016 on  04:41 PM
I think the film is great as is and I think that fans are starting to lose sight of the film they fell in love with to begin with in favor of some supposedly better version they will NEVER see. Hell, we don't even know if any of that lost footage is even worth it.
It's not like we're dissatisfied with the film at the end of the day. This thread is just supposed to be hypothetical and allow us to express our thoughts about the film, whatever they may be. Don't rush to judgment there, man.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 31, 2016, 01:15:44 AM
Quote from: NewOrder,Jan 13 2016 on  06:49 AM
. But that's a personal preference. It doesn't really change the magic of the film.
It makes it better to me.  :smile
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: DarkHououmon on January 31, 2016, 12:07:15 PM
Quote from: Dr. Rex,Jan 31 2016 on  12:32 AM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Jan 12 2016 on  04:41 PM
I think the film is great as is and I think that fans are starting to lose sight of the film they fell in love with to begin with in favor of some supposedly better version they will NEVER see. Hell, we don't even know if any of that lost footage is even worth it.
It's not like we're dissatisfied with the film at the end of the day. This thread is just supposed to be hypothetical and allow us to express our thoughts about the film, whatever they may be. Don't rush to judgment there, man.
I have to agree. Discussing what could have made LBT a better movie and talking about cut scenes isn't really the same thing as being dissatisfied with the finished film and losing sight over it. There is really nothing wrong with discussing what could have been. It is quite possible to both enjoy a film for what it is and being interested in directions it could have taken to be even better without losing sight with what the finished product has to offer.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Hardback247 on January 31, 2016, 07:18:20 PM
It pains me to think that the movie was actually not supposed to be what it became, because this was one of my all time favorite movies growing up. I had no idea back then.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Dr. Rex on January 31, 2016, 08:28:26 PM
Quote from: Hardback247,Jan 31 2016 on  06:18 PM
It pains me to think that the movie was actually not supposed to be what it became, because this was one of my all time favorite movies growing up. I had no idea back then.
Yeah, it was pretty shocking to me too. The pains the filmmakers had to go through, and yet it mostly wasn't worth it because of studio pressure.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Hardback247 on January 31, 2016, 10:00:33 PM
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Yeah, it was pretty shocking to me too. The pains the filmmakers had to go through, and yet it mostly wasn't worth it because of studio pressure.

Even so, the movie as it is is still absolutely wonderful.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Dr. Rex on February 04, 2016, 10:56:43 PM
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Yeah, it was pretty shocking to me too. The pains the filmmakers had to go through, and yet it mostly wasn't worth it because of studio pressure.

Even so, the movie as it is is still absolutely wonderful.
You got that right. We wouldn't be here if we were dissatisfied with what we've got.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: LoyfeCycleProtector on February 04, 2016, 11:00:33 PM
I love it and wouldn't change anything, but if I wasn't a fan and I was a cynical film critic with an ashtray next to my computer and a half-empty bottle of Jack Daniels next to my novel I'd never get published, I'd say that it needed to be longer. The cuts that were made make it pretty short even for an animated movie, and there was room to add more scenes.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: cyberbat on February 16, 2016, 06:38:59 AM
If they were to magically remake this movie, I wouldn't change much other than the whole issue with spikes's size. He need to be shown smaller than the rest and to then have a growth spurt.

I think what could improve this is to make it longer and add a few things such as

1) petri's birth.

2) Littlefoot and Cera after the fight, not just a short cut to Cera' getting them into trouble.  

3) few more action packed running away from shartooth type things that could add to character building between our heros.

4) Make Cera a LIKABLE character. Honestly she is right meanie and acts shelfishly towards everyone! Her only redemption is right at the end and then to see her actually looks sad when Petrie dies. The FIRST time she shows that she cares about anyone. I love how strong willed she is but she needed more fleshing out. And some more time after that so we can like her.

5) some alone time with their families. I would like to see Cera interact within her group and LF have a conversation with his grandparents. Small things like this.

30 extra min would make me happy. Plus to cap it all off the "If we hold on together" song in the endish of the movie. I'm not sure how you could put it into the movie, but I would love to see it play in the background while stuff is happening.

and the some where out there song from An American tail- so good to use here, Maybe if LF wakes up in the middle of the night or something.


Ever see the 'bar bar' movie? IT was about elephants. Well that had a great song that would suit this movie down to the ground. It could play in the background.

Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: DarkHououmon on February 16, 2016, 07:48:25 AM
Quote from: cyberbat,Feb 16 2016 on  06:38 AM
4) Make Cera a LIKABLE character. Honestly she is right meanie and acts shelfishly towards everyone! Her only redemption is right at the end and then to see her actually looks sad when Petrie dies. The FIRST time she shows that she cares about anyone. I love how strong willed she is but she needed more fleshing out. And some more time after that so we can like her.
I am not entirely sure how I feel about this. Cera wouldn't feel like Cera if she were suddenly nice towards everyone. I feel she was meant to act as a foil to Littlefoot. And besides, not all children are 'sweet little angels'. Having Cera act jerkish portrays this, and it made the group dynamic more interesting. It just wouldn't be the same if she were too nice.

Also, what do you mean that her "only" redemption is when she was sad for Petrie? I would think that her going back and offering help to stop Sharptooth would count also. If she hadn't come back, they all could have been killed.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Dalekdino on February 16, 2016, 08:30:31 AM
Quote from: cyberbat,Feb 16 2016 on  11:38 AM


4) Make Cera a LIKABLE character. Honestly she is right meanie and acts shelfishly towards everyone! Her only redemption is right at the end and then to see her actually looks sad when Petrie dies. The FIRST time she shows that she cares about anyone. I love how strong willed she is but she needed more fleshing out. And some more time after that so we can like her.
 
That wasn't Cera's only redemption. She saved everyone from Sharptooth! What about that.
Title: What could have made the 1st movie better?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on February 26, 2016, 08:57:31 PM
Quote from: LBTLover1,Dec 19 2011 on  08:39 PM


10. NOO!!  That's the most important part of the movie...his flashbacks.  Without them, he can't recall to his past and figure all he has gone through to get to the single his mother told him about.  Removing that just ruins the effects of a goal.

 
People are so biased. I tried to be understanding but you never responded and now it just still feels like you were trying to shove it in my face.