What kind of villain would everyone like to see?

WeirdRaptor · **on:** July 31, 2006, 10:55:05 PM

Personally, I'm very tired of the silly incompetent villains, or the brainless mouths on legs that they've turned the sharpteeth into. I used to watch a series called "Pirates of Dark Water" on Saturday morning as a little, which featured several on-screen deaths and had countless villains that were an actual threat (thus the on-screen deaths). But I was never seriously freaked out by it. I'm not saying that we should have the LBT villains rampage up a whole slaughter of victems, but having a halfway intelligent villain that can actually calculate a decent plan and can actually be a threat is not something that's beyond the child audience's ability to handle.

That's my input. How about you guys?

f-22 "raptor" ace · **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2006, 11:01:12 PM

i'd love to see an intellegent villian. we do need one.

trexmaster · **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2006, 11:45:26 PM

What would motivate these villains?

EDIT: Well, to answer my own question, I suppose they could be motivated by revenge against an individual, or like Pterano or The Lion King's Scar, they could desire power.

I certainly do think the sharpteeth need more brains. They've shown great intelligence in LBT 5, probably no less than that of the leaf-eaters, so they deserve a lot more respect.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #3 on:** August 01, 2006, 02:26:53 AM

Or a predator who wishes to bust open a hole in the protective wall around the Great Valley, allowing him access to a whole mess of potential meals.

Malte279 · **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2006, 02:30:53 AM

I think it would be quite interesting to have someone where you don't see immediately that he or she is a villain. Somebody keeping up a good pretence of the decent citizen while secretly pursuing his or her vicious purposes. As for those purposes racism could be another motive for a villain (we know that there is racism in LBT since the first movie, but we never ever saw it in its most wicked and dangerous state.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #5 on:** August 01, 2006, 05:08:25 AM

Every time you suggest an idea, Malte, it becomes a bigger and bigger wonder why you're not writing the series. That's an excellent suggestion.

Malte279 · **Reply #6 on:** August 01, 2006, 05:50:06 AM

Thanks a lot

Actually that kind of villain is the villain in the story I've been working with for too long a time already. I'm now on page 242 and I don't mean to give up on it, but sometimes I think that story has been stripped of some of its basis by sequels which were published after I started writing and which contradict the story. For somebody who is constantly insisting on a solid plausible plot that doesn't mess with things that have been told earlier it is kind of difficult to write a story which is going to contradict two sequels (so far).

Petrie. · **Reply #7 on:** August 01, 2006, 03:11:26 PM

What Malte said...I'd wish to see it the same way.

Megatoph · **Reply #8 on:** August 01, 2006, 05:14:47 PM

I my self would like to see a villain that was once an inhabitant of the great valley. or was once a good friend of the Gang. be nice to see a herbivore villain for a change. well thats my thought. let the bashin' begain.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #9 on:** August 01, 2006, 06:49:19 PM

I don't know if that would work, because I can't see anyone who's become friends witht he gang turning on them.

pokeplayer984 · **Reply #10 on:** August 01, 2006, 10:37:56 PM

Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Aug 1 2006 on 05:49 PM

I don't know if that would work, because I can't see anyone who's become friends witht he gang turning on them.

Indeed, it is difficult to see someone who is a friend of the gang become a villian. Something terrible would have to happen for that to be accomplished. (Like an accidential death taken the wrong way or something.)

Then again, there is Chomper. I mean, he is a sharptooth after all.

I think he's the only one that's a friend of the gang that has a chance at becoming a villian.

I'm sure we could all imagine an epic battle between a grown up Littlefoot and Chomper duking it out.

Malte279 · **Reply #11 on:** August 02, 2006, 02:55:54 AM

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I'm sure we could all imagine an epic battle between a grown up Littlefoot and Chomper duking it out.

I can't. While I'm very much in favor of a plot that doesn't beat the bush about Chomper's being a sharptooth this "epic battle between former friends" stuff sounds too much like ripping of from Star Wars too me.
Actually it would not be too difficult to have a friend (other than Chomper) of the Gang turn out to be a villain. All we need is somebody who needs the Gangs help for something (that something is probably the greatest difficulty) and is a good pretender. We had the basic concept in case of Pterano, but in his case it was clear from the beginning that he was a villain. We would need somebody with an unimpeachable (or at least unknown) history, somebody who is able to smile friendly, somebody who is good at pretending the nice, or weak guy, but in reality ruthlessly pursuits his or her goals.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #12 on:** August 02, 2006, 03:31:09 AM

How would having former friends duking it out be ripping off "Star Wars". I don't remember anything like that happening in SW, and the "friends becoming enemies" thing has been done is many other movies and such.

Malte279 · **Reply #13 on:** August 02, 2006, 03:45:56 AM

True, but this Littlefoot Chomper thing sounds a bit like Obiwan vs. Anakin.
There are some similarities. I am exaggerating I suppose, but the short time distance from Episode three and the fact that there are many Star Wars based LBT fanfictions out there may make me overcautious if it comes to this.
I love LBT, I love Star Wars, I don't love a mixture of both.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #14 on:** August 02, 2006, 04:18:03 AM

Obi-Wan and Anakin were Teacher and Learner, Littlefoot and Chomper have a less sound relationship, so I still don't see the connection. The animes "Gundam Seed" and "Gundam Seed: Desyiny" are no less recent than Episode 3, and feature friends turning on each other (unwillingly). In other words, there are other recent movies and TV shows that can be pointed out as an example of a similar plot if it is used in a LBT sequel.

f-22 "raptor" ace · **Reply #15 on:** August 02, 2006, 09:27:00 AM

in the rpg i started the main villian is a herbivore. he also has some sharpteeth friends.

lbt/cty_lover · **Reply #16 on:** November 21, 2007, 09:33:20 PM

I say that there should be a villain that can manipulate, deceive, and control. Personally, I want to see a villain that takes control of the entire gang except Spike, who saves the day.

Manny Cav · **Reply #17 on:** November 21, 2007, 10:03:09 PM

We need more cunning villains; the Redclaw thing is just getting really old really quick.

Kor · **Reply #18 on:** November 22, 2007, 12:43:59 AM

More intelligent villains would be an improvement. One can have intelligent villain in a work aimed even at the young age group these movies are aimed at and have it come off well if a good writer or group of good writers, who do not have the often not very smart nor creative higher ups messing with things, write it.

Weather_lord_7 · **Reply #19 on:** November 26, 2007, 10:58:14 PM

We could have a rogue plant-eater, like a Therizinosaurus or something.