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Was it altogether for Littlefoot's mother to die?

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Thing is, everytime I try to rent either of them, my bratty sister who hates Land Before Time comes along.  I wouldn't worry about her knowing I am a fan except she has a huge mouth and will tell everyone in both her class and mine.  It would really hurt my reputation, not that it is any of those kids business.  One of them is a LBT basher.


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Most everyone on this floor of the dormitories here knows I'm a huge Disney fan, and I don't see how its hurt or stinted my reputation.  They know I've watched Land Before Time.  They know I've watched Bambi.  They know I've watched Roger Rabbit.  You know....be yourself....who gives a rats tail if they know?  I wouldn't let it get to you.


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I too never made a secret of my passion for the land before time. Not like I was carrying a banner around at school reading: "I love the land before time", but no raised eyebrows kept me from drawing LBT characters in public or the like. When I was in America I made by no means a secret of it either and in fact most of the projects from the arts class I participated in were about LBT. I don't blame people for raised eyebrows, they don't hurt me and they too will get over the fact that a 21 years old can love LBT. If those people do more than raising their eyebrows, you may want to ask yourself if they are the people whose opinion matter to you F-14 Ace. Are they the kind of people among whom you want to have a good reputation?
There is only one way of avoiding causing any negative impressions by anyone. Do nothing, say nothing, be nothing!
But I doubt anyone of independent mind could live that way.


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Yeah, well she also went around the school saying I am gay which is totally untrue!  I have had little kids come up to me and ask if I am gay.  We were on a fieldtrip when she started that rumor.


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Ouch. That must have hurt.

what kind of reputation do you hold in your social circle of classmates, anyway? If you're known as the "tough guy", yeah, I'd keep your love of "Land Before Time" secret, but if you're not a particularly tough guy, I don't see the difference in them knowing or not knowing. Tolerence is what the civilized world is built on.
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I am what you would call a geek, dork, poindexter, bookworm or otherwise known as a nerd.  Actually, it wouldn't be so bad except the people I am friends with are the cool kids who just happen to hate Land Before Time.   However, one of them does know but he really does not mind.  It was mainly when my stupid little sister spread that friggen rumor about me being gay. :mad


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I think there would have been some way for the story to work if she had survived.  However, it wouldn't have been as good.


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Perhaps. Perhaps not. There are a number of ways it could have been just as good withher surviving.
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf


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^ No doubt about that. But it certainly would have made a very different story.


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I am currently writing a story about what I think would have happened if she had survived.  By the way, I don't think she was a racist.  I just thikn that rule was the law of the herds and had always been that way.


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Actually that's a difficult question.
I wholeheartedly agree that Littlefoot's mother was no racist by conviction but rather because of her sticking to old rules. But does that disqualify anyone from deserving the shameful title of being a "racist"? It's interesting for me as it is one of the topics of the land before time story I have been writing for a long time already.
If acting in a racialist manner doesn't make you a racist if your acting is based on sticking to laws and tradition that would take the blame from many of history's worst racists!
Therefore I strongly disagree with the thesis.
Littlefoot's mother was a racist.
She was not a hard-core racist, she didn't act on conviction, she saved Cera, but by definition she was a racist.


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Hear hear Malte.  ;)  She wasn't so indifferent as to let Cera die, but she didn't seem to want to do any more than that.  Even Littlefoot was pushed in a different direction as Cera ran in another.


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Hear hear Malte.  She wasn't so indifferent as to let Cera die, but she didn't seem to want to do any more than that. Even Littlefoot was pushed in a different direction as Cera ran in another.
That's true, and that's why I don't consider her a hard-core racist. Had she been more convinced of it I reckon she would have answered in more detail to Littlefoot's question about why longnecks can't play with other kinds (rather than cutting of the topic with the promise of many longnecks in the Great Valley). Littlefoot's mother was certainly not a bad character.
Still she was raised as a racist and as for that we can conclude that her parents, Littlefoot's grandparents were racists too. It seems so mean to apply that term to Littlefoot's courageous mother and I cannot repeat often enough that she was a good character and not a hard core racist.
But how would you call (to transfer it to our time) anyone who told a white kid that white kids never play with black kids because they are different and because it has ever been that way. No matter how friendly a person would say this, it would make the person a racist!
It is interesting to pursue the thought about Littlefoot's grandparents. They must have been racists too and despite of their advanced age they learned to overcome their old prejudices. It is admirable to be able to learn such important things at such a late time.
Most of the other Great Valley dinosaurs were most likely racists too but learned to get along with the other kinds. In fact I think the changes that took place were never ever given due credit so far.


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In fact I think the changes that took place were never ever given due credit so far.

I never noticed that before. You know, now that I think about it: it is kind of funny that, other than Cera's dad (of course  :rolleyes: ), the herds were just suddenly getting along and working as a team in the sequel, without any qualms about species. And, judging, by the lyrics of the opening song for LBT2 ("Peaceful Valley"), it must have only been a few days since the kids arrived at the valley, which means that the adults hadn't been there for that long, either.
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According to the tale about Pterano the different kinds must have united on the way to the Great Valley already. My theory is that the big earthquake was the ultimate trigger. Leaving the majority of families and herds torn apart I suppose they had hardly a choice but to get along with each other or stand but a little chance to survive.


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Probably, but still, it's a shame that they never go into any of these ideas very deeply. The adults getting over their prejudice on their journey could almost make for a movie, in itself.
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf


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I agree and quite frankly, I'm glad about your interest in this matter. It is a part of the story I've been writing all the time and your interest in the question gives sort of a boost of motivation for me to get on with it.  :)


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Cool.

You know, it's actually a shame that it's us fans that who have to even consider these things.
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf


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I wouldn't mind reading a story like that....or even a film where they have to overcome those differences either.  That isn't something that happens overnight - sometimes, if ever.


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It does not really happen in my story either as I agree it is not an overnight process. In fact the end will be neither a white nor a black one.