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Belmont2500

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Quote from: ScratteLover3,Sep 19 2010 on  03:16 PM
Remember how she died, well there was video of her death on youtube, and the title was

"Lol, Littlefoot's mother dies"


That person must hate LBT alot, even the deceased characters, if they call a video that.

EDIT Found the link


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOI_l7spJw&feature=related

Can you actually believe this person would name a video that?
Oh that's nothing, you should read the comments and see how he butchered one of the most depressing scenes ever.
 

 


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was littlefoots mother grandma and grandpa longnecks only daugther?


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^We don't know that. But if you look at how many eggs were in the nest in which Littlefoot had hatched (for some reason they were all cracked except Littlefoot's), you can see that longnecks lay a lot of eggs, and with any luck (most nests probably wouldn't look so bad as Littlefoot's) at least several of those eggs would hatch. From this we can assume that Littlefoot's mother likely had several brothers and sisters, at least during her childhood.


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It's so sad that she died, but if she hadn't the whole series would be completely different :yes

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Quote from: Ducky123,Apr 4 2013 on  03:01 PM
It's so sad that she died, but if she hadn't the whole series would be completely different :yes
Quote from: Ducky123,Apr 4 2013 on  03:01 PM
It's so sad that she died, but if she hadn't the whole series would be completely different :yes
Quote from: Ducky123,Apr 4 2013 on  03:01 PM
It's so sad that she died, but if she hadn't the whole series would be completely different :yes
That's the understatement of the Epoch!  It would have gone like this:

Land Before Time (original) events

Scenario 1:  Littlefoot does not wander off.  Sharptooth goes after Cera instead of both Littlefoot and Cera.  As Littlefoot does not call for his mother, as he is still asleep, Sharptooth eats Cera for a late

night snack.  Sharptooth continues on his reign of terror afterward, killing and eating more dinosaurs the rest of his.   (Note, the events after this are the same as Scenario 2.)

Scenario 2:  Littlefoot and Cera are chased by Sharptooth.  They are rescued by Littlefoot's mother, who is able to dodge being mortal wounded by Sharptooth.  Sharptooth may or may not have been killed

(if he isn't, he will kill again over and over for the rest of his life.)  The Great Earthshake happens.  Herds are separated.  Littlefoot remains with his alive mother and never meets Cera, Ducky, Petrie, or

Spike.   Cera may have met the others and led them.  They likely would have followed Cera to the Mountains that Burn, where Ducky, Petrie, and Spike would not have been saved by Littlefoot, who never

met them, and hence perished in lava.  Cera, unable to be rescued by the others, would have become a snack for Domeheads.  Littlefoot is the only main character left of the five now and comes to the Great

Valley with his mother.  However, he is dismayed to see that, unlike what his mother thought, there seem to be few longnecks to play with and, having never met Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike, may have

been a believer in herd separation and hence had few friends.

Land Before Time II: Great Valley Adventure events

- As Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike have died, Littlefoot wasn't awoken by them and slept through the night.  Ozzy and Strut meanwhile, unbothered by the kids, most of whom have died, are able to get

eggs without being hampered.  

-  As Littlefoot slept through the night, Chomper's egg wasn't moved.  They never became friends.  Chomper hatches and stays with his parents.  He becomes a regular sharptooth, learning to eat the meat of

other dinosaurs.  


 Land Before Time III: The Time of Great Giving (events)

- With all of the gang dead, except possibly Littlefoot, Hyp wans't rescued and died in the tar pit.

- Members of the Great Valley may have died without the help of Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike and Hyp.  

-  Littlefoot, Nod, and Mutt might have  died, unable to push the boulder at the Velociraptors without the help of Cera, Ducky, Petrie, Spike, and Hyp.


Land Before Time IV: Journey through the Mists (which may have come before Land Before Time III chronologically) events

-  Littlefoot and Ali set out alone, as they actually did in the regular universe Land Before Time, and try and get the Night Flower to save Grandpa Longneck.  However, without the help of the others, Ali is

unable to break the rocks after the earthshake alone.  Littlefoot and Archie are killed and eaten by Dil and Ichy.

-  Not getting the Nightflower, Grandpa Longneck succumbs to his illness and dies.

-  Ali has some explaining to do to Littlefoot's mother and Grandma Longneck of why Littlefoot will never be coming back.  The two older longneck's mourn the deaths of both Littlefoot and Grandpa

Longneck.

- It is possible that Grandma Longneck and Littlefoot's mother may have left the Great Valley with Ali's herd, as Grandpa Longneck and Littlefoot are dead.   If they did, there will be no more longnecks left

in the Great Valley.  

- Ali spends the rest of her life haunted by the death of Littlefoot, likley beating herself up for agreeing to take him toward the Land of Mists.  The two have no hope of falling in  love now as Littlefoot is

dead.  

-  Ali may have eventually gotten through the rock wall only to be made a meal by Dil and Ichy herself.  


Land Before Time V: The Mysterious Island (events)

- with Littlefoot and the gang dead and without Grandpa Longneck, the herds would undoubtably have split up, many may have died of hunger and thirst, and it is unknown how many, if any, would

return to the Great Valley as they wouldn't have found all of the food wihtout the children's efforts.

- Chomper continues to eat meat and continues on his path to be a regular Sharptooth

Land Before Time VI: Secrets of Saurus Rock events

- Events here aren't as drastic, though the Great Valley might not be that inhabited after the events of the previous movie in this altered universe.  However, Grandpa Longneck and the five main characters are dead in this altered universe.  

- Bad luck wouldn't have hit the Great Valley, as Saurus Rock was never broken.  However, given the other events of this altered timeline, this is very small consolation indeed.  

- As Grandpa Longneck is dead and Doc wold never have gone near Saurus Rock, the two sharpteeth seen in the Great Valley might still be alive.

Land Before Time VII: The Stone of Cold Fire  events

- Without anyone believing that there is good in him and with no chance at redemption, Pterano would almost certainly have remained bad and, over time, become as evil as Rinkus and Sierra.

Land Before Time VIII: The Big Freeze events

- Without being able to help the children, Mr. Thicknose might not have been able to get redemption and may have fallen out of favor with the grownups and lost his teaching position.

- The Mountain Sharptooth, having never been killed by Thicknose as he'd have no reason to go into the Mysterious Beyond, would have lived and killed more dinosaurs for food.

- Tippy and his herd, having not been rescued by the others, as they are all dead, would have died of hunger in the Mysterious Beyond.


Land Before Time IX: Journey to Big Water events

- Mo, having not been helped to find his home again, may well have been killed by the Swimming Sharptooth when he got free.


Land Before Time X: Great Longneck Migration events

- Grandma Longneck goes on the journey with Littlefoot's mother.  Grandpa Longneck and Littlefoot have long been dead.

- There they meet Bron, who hears the sad news that his son and father-in-law have died.  Littlefoot's Mother would have lived with her husband upon finding him.  Grandma Longneck, now a widow, may

also have stayed with them.  In this case, there would be no longnecks left in the Great Valley.


Land Before Time XI: Invasion of the Tinysauruses events

- Big Daddy and the other Tinysauruses, having never befriended Littlefoot and the others as they are all dead, will remain wary of bigger dinosaurs for the rest of their lives.
 

Land Before Time XII: The Great Day of Flyers events


- The Great Day of Flyers would never have been altered by Petrie as he died years earlier.

- Tricia would have drowned.

-  Guido may well have fallen to his death while sleep walking as the others wouldn't have been there to rescue him.

Land Before Time XIII: The Wisdom of Friends events

- It isn't known here how things may have differed, though Loofah and Doofah might have come to a bad end without the other characters being alive.

TV Series events

- The TV Series would, for all intents and purposes, have been about Chomper, a leat-eater killing meat eater, and Ruby.  

- Had Ruby met Chomper's family without them having met the Gang of Five, likely she would have become "dessert".

-  Mama Flyer would have died in the mud, not rescued by Chomper.  Petrie's siblings would now be orphans.  (Maybe they'd live with Pterano, which wouldn't bode well for them.)  

-  Dara would have died as Chomper wouldn't have been there to save her either.

- Without Petrie and Guido being around, Swooper would have stayed at Hanging Rock.

-  Skip would have died in that fire.

-  Belly Draggers might have eaten someone as Cera wouldn't have foiled them the first time.

-  If Ali  is still been around, she'd have kept being lied to by Rhett.

-  Mama Fast Biter's eggs would have hatched near the Great Valley, which would have led to trouble.


A very depressing storyline indeed!!!!!    :cry  :cry  :cry  :cry  :cry  :cry


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Mama Longneck was sweet-hearted in the time we got to know her. I agree she did have an indifference or resignation to the status quo. Of course, that didn’t prevent her from helping save Cera during the sharptooth attack. Whatever else, she doesn’t allow that feelings to get in the way when the chips are down. That was probably the last worry on her mind when she became Mama Spiritual Advisor. I surmise death can lend some perspective on what’s truly important.

If Mama Longneck somehow survived and the events of Littlefoot gaining his new friends and killing the first sharptooth remained intact, I wonder how she might have reacted to their constant adventures. Would she be the adult who open-mindedly accepts their need to go out and do adventuring things, or would she be as worried and try to stop them like the other parents. She did let Littlefoot wander around a bit when he first met Cera, so she might have been open to him fulfilling his curiosity despite some dangers. Still, her acceptance of the current speciesist status quo makes me wonder if she would have resigned herself to the same crises that other adults did throughout the series. Maybe the gang’s moments of action and adventures would have changed her view on those things.

I’m still trying to grasp her, but it’s fun to speculate on what she might do as a character.


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Littlefoot's mother surviving the sharptooth attack and playing a part in her son's future adventures... I gotta say that thought feels weird. It probably has something to do with me watching the oridinal movie at a very young age, but I never even tried to imagine what she would be like if given more screen time. Dunno, she just kinda felt... Like her character was set in stone or something. :blink:


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The role she fulfills in the movie is fine. I’m attempting to extrapolate on who she is as a person. I might end up writing her in a fic at some point, so I try to fill in the blanks and imagine what actions she would take in certain scenarios that didn’t take place on film.


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Quote from: Malte279,Oct 30 2008 on  03:52 AM
We can also say that she was brought up (by her parents who are judging from their attitude in LBT 10 the grandparents of Littlefoot we have seen in all of the movies) in the old racist ways and that (though we don't know about her personal stand on it) she didn't question it nor bothered at a real explanation when Littlefoot questioned it. This does not by itself make her a "bad character" but she seems to have been somewhere in between Cera's father's racism and Ducky's parents apparent lack of such. It is that later point which made me wonder if the racism was a specific longneck / threehorn thing.
'You raise an interesting point. I assume that Grand Pa Longneck and Grand Ma Longneck reformed in their views of other dinosaurs, because how do you explain Grand Pa and Grand Ma Longneck working with the other herds and being alright straight from beginning of LBTII: The Great Valley Adventure with Little Foot playing with Cera, Petrie, Ducky, and Spike? If Little Foot's Mother was taught the "we longnecks and longnecks spend time with longnecks" by Grand Pa and Grand Ma Longneck, then either Grand Pa and Grand Ma reformed by having to work with Topsy/Mr. Threehorn and the other diverse herds in same way Little Foot did with his friends, or the Gang of Five influenced them (which is hard to believe considering LBTII opening scenes and the whole grown up story arch where the kids don't feel the parents trust them to be grown up).

Little Foot's Mother was a traditionalist, and it was Little Foot and Cera's interaction that was harbinger for Sharptooth to arrive (unless you believe Sharptooth would have arrived anyway and attack Little Foot's Mother and company in their sleep, I am not sure how close Little Foot's Mother and Grand Pa and Grand Ma's sleeping quarters were to the bog Little Foot and Cera played at).

Little Foot's Mother did defeat Sharptooth but at cost of her own life. And she reformed in one way, she saves both Little Foot and Cera when they fall with Sharptooth, she could have just saved Little Foot.

“The Past is Gone..” -Dream On, Aerosmith


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We can also say that she was brought up (by her parents who are judging from their attitude in LBT 10 the grandparents of Littlefoot we have seen in all of the movies) in the old racist ways and that (though we don't know about her personal stand on it) she didn't question it nor bothered at a real explanation when Littlefoot questioned it. This does not by itself make her a "bad character" but she seems to have been somewhere in between Cera's father's racism and Ducky's parents apparent lack of such. It is that later point which made me wonder if the racism was a specific longneck / threehorn thing.


Interesting points. Littlefoot’s parents however do shift in their racism or dinocism in LBTII-XIV. We see Grandpa Longneck and Grandma working with the diverse herds. But the idea that there is a particular enmity between longnecks and threehorns can be supported by Grandpa Longneck and Mr. Threehorn (Topsy) often disagreeing and fighting, an in LBTIII Topsy risking his life and Cera’s to be right.

I will say of Littlefoot’s Mother that she instilled in him the impetus to find the Great Valley, telling him the landmarks, which enabled him and the rest of Gang to find not only the valley, but their families. In fact, had it not been for Littlefoot’s mom, Littlefoot and Cera would have been a meal for Sharptooth, and the whole Gang would be still trapped in Mysterious Beyond. In fact, Littlefoot’s Mother (who I will call Motherfoot) appeared as a cloudasaur and lead Littlefoot to the Great Valley when he and Gang couldn’t find it.

“The Past is Gone..” -Dream On, Aerosmith