The Gang of Five

The Land Before Time => 1988 Theatrical Release => Topic started by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on March 11, 2015, 10:39:57 AM

Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on March 11, 2015, 10:39:57 AM
Ok, this is never explained in LBT at all and we have yet to see a repeat of it.  It seems that Littlefoot got some posthumous visits or words from his mom.  He's the only one.  Petrie's dad,  Cera's mom, and Spike's parents never talk to them, that we know of.  

Also, do you think Mama Longneck still talks to Littlefoot sometimes?  

Her posthumous appearances are as bizarre (there is no natural explanation for them) as the Rainbow Faces in film VII.  

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Post by: Ducky_is_best_dino on May 03, 2015, 08:53:27 PM
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Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: WeirdRaptor on June 07, 2015, 11:49:14 PM
I don't think his mother was a hallucination, if only because "Cloud" Mama Longneck guided him right to the Great Valley. Coincidences like that DO NOT HAPPEN, even in fiction. Of course, we'd have to get the writers' and Bluth's word on this to be sure.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Malte279 on June 08, 2015, 03:24:13 AM
Reminds me a bit of Rafiki's sarcasm in the lion king (after Simba saw Mufasa also as a cloud image): "What was that? The weather? Very peculiar, don't you think?"
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on June 20, 2015, 02:27:02 AM
Quote from: LittlefootAndAliTogether,Mar 11 2015 on  09:39 AM
Ok, this is never explained in LBT at all and we have yet to see a repeat of it.  It seems that Littlefoot got some posthumous visits or words from his mom.  He's the only one.  Petrie's dad,  Cera's mom, and Spike's parents never talk to them, that we know of.  

Also, do you think Mama Longneck still talks to Littlefoot sometimes?  

Her posthumous appearances are as bizarre (there is no natural explanation for them) as the Rainbow Faces in film VII.
We don't know for sure if their parents are dead, though.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: WeirdRaptor on June 22, 2015, 02:07:51 AM
I think we can safely say Cera's mom is, otherwise Daddy Tops wouldn't be a bachelot for LBTs 2-whenever Tria showed up.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Ruby2 on July 28, 2015, 02:39:34 PM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Jun 22 2015 on  01:07 AM
I think we can safely say Cera's mom is, otherwise Daddy Tops wouldn't be a bachelot for LBTs 2-whenever Tria showed up.
Ducky's mom believed Spike's parents to be dead.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Dr. Rex on August 05, 2015, 06:47:53 PM
I've always thought it was a combination of PTSD-ridden visions (I don't want to call them hallucinations, per se) and Littlefoot's natural instinct. Correct me if I'm wrong (I have not seen the first movie in a while), but I believe Littlefoot's mother said something about a dinosaur always being able to find the Great Valley? If so, he must've been following his heart along with those visions. If that's incorrect, he was still able to find the landmarks pointed out to him by his mother, so he was still on the right track, regardless.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Sneak on March 26, 2016, 01:18:04 PM
Good I found this thread.

I always wanted to know what other people think about Mama Longneck's supernatural form.
 
And did Don Bluth&Co talk about it somewhere? Was it just after-effect of little longneck's mental trauma or there WAS presence of some supernatural thing?

what do you think?
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Sangiban on June 18, 2016, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Dr. Rex,Aug 5 2015 on  10:47 PM
I've always thought it was a combination of PTSD-ridden visions (I don't want to call them hallucinations, per se) and Littlefoot's natural instinct. Correct me if I'm wrong (I have not seen the first movie in a while), but I believe Littlefoot's mother said something about a dinosaur always being able to find the Great Valley? If so, he must've been following his heart along with those visions. If that's incorrect, he was still able to find the landmarks pointed out to him by his mother, so he was still on the right track, regardless.
I reckon it was meant to be ambiguous whether Littlefoot was 'hallucinating' or whether he was having real visions (much like the movie adaptation of "The Shining"). After all, Littlefoot was alone both times (it could be more- my memory's foggy) he saw his mother's ghost. Whether intentional or not, the concept was a very smart one. I just wish it had received a bit more emphasis. It would definitely make for good comic book or fanfiction material.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: bestariana1girl on June 19, 2016, 03:23:34 AM
I honestly assume that each character has at least 1 deceased parent if not both. I could be wrong..
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Coyote_A on June 19, 2016, 04:16:53 AM
Quote from: bestariana1girl,Jun 19 2016 on  11:23 AM
I honestly assume that each character has at least 1 deceased parent if not both. I could be wrong..
I always assumed so too since we never got to see Ducky's and Petrie's fathers in the original.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Sangiban on June 19, 2016, 04:41:14 AM
Quote from: Coyote_A,Jun 19 2016 on  08:16 AM
Quote from: bestariana1girl,Jun 19 2016 on  11:23 AM
I honestly assume that each character has at least 1 deceased parent if not both. I could be wrong..
I always assumed so too since we never got to see Ducky's and Petrie's fathers in the original.
I figure Petrie and Ducky's fathers died before they were born. Otherwise, it would be odd for Petrie and Ducky not to miss them at all.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Sneak on June 19, 2016, 06:36:22 AM
Funny, yesterday I wanted to bump this topic.

So, on what side do you guys keep the most? hallucinations, or afterlife ghosts?

Quote from: Sangiban,Jun 19 2016 on  11:41 AM
Quote from: Coyote_A,Jun 19 2016 on  08:16 AM
Quote from: bestariana1girl,Jun 19 2016 on  11:23 AM
I honestly assume that each character has at least 1 deceased parent if not both. I could be wrong..
I always assumed so too since we never got to see Ducky's and Petrie's fathers in the original.
I figure Petrie and Ducky's fathers died before they were born. Otherwise, it would be odd for Petrie and Ducky not to miss them at all.
Excuse me. There IS Ducky's father in original movie. At the beginning and at the end of the movie. (and if I'm correct, we can see him in some sequels)
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Sangiban on June 19, 2016, 07:22:55 AM
Quote from: Snik,Jun 19 2016 on  10:36 AM
Funny, yesterday I wanted to bump this topic.

So, on what side do you guys keep the most? hallucinations, or afterlife ghosts?

Quote from: Sangiban,Jun 19 2016 on  11:41 AM
Quote from: Coyote_A,Jun 19 2016 on  08:16 AM
Quote from: bestariana1girl,Jun 19 2016 on  11:23 AM
I honestly assume that each character has at least 1 deceased parent if not both. I could be wrong..
I always assumed so too since we never got to see Ducky's and Petrie's fathers in the original.
I figure Petrie and Ducky's fathers died before they were born. Otherwise, it would be odd for Petrie and Ducky not to miss them at all.
Excuse me. There IS Ducky's father in original movie. At the beginning and at the end of the movie. (and if I'm correct, we can see him in some sequels)
Yes, I stand corrected. Ducky's father appears in LBT I, II, and V, though he then disappears for the rest of the series.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Coyote_A on August 20, 2016, 07:22:54 PM
Quote from: Sangiban,Jun 19 2016 on  03:22 PM
Yes, I stand corrected. Ducky's father appears in LBT I, II, and V, though he then disappears for the rest of the series.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there ever was a direct confirmation that the other adult swimmer, often seen standing next to Ducky's mom is actually her mate. And they look pretty alike, unless my memory deceives me... Could be another female. :)
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: The Lone Dragon on August 20, 2016, 08:41:36 PM
^

The adult Swimmer might have been her sister because I remember in LBT 12 that Ducky says she has an aunt, if I were to guess then I'd say that the Swimmer in V is most likely to be Ducky's father as he has a vastly different colour to her mother. I do think Ducky has a father but I have no idea about Petrie's father, all we can do is speculate.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Sneak on August 21, 2016, 02:13:55 PM
It is complex.

I absolutely sure there was Ducky's father, at least in context of original movie.
Why would Don Bluth and Co replace father with sisters?
well, they could, but where's confirmed that adult threehorn next to Topps is his mate? Or Ducky's mother is actually her mother, not her aunt because her mother died?
I'm sure we saw both parents of Cera and Ducky, and lone mothers of Littlefoot and Petrie (and poor Petrie still hadn't his birth scene in introduction, why? We don't even know maybe there was place for his father in early stages of movie)

About Ducky's father absence and skin coloring. Creators of sequels don't dig too deep into details. Character can change its color, its own character can be changed, its siblings can be missing, its actions can be absurd...

but still:
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So, on what side do you guys keep the most? hallucinations, or afterlife ghosts?
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Coyote_A on August 21, 2016, 02:49:12 PM
Quote from: Snik,Aug 21 2016 on  10:13 PM
but still:
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So, on what side do you guys keep the most? hallucinations, or afterlife ghosts?
I think it's neither of those things. Following the movie's narrative it's supposed to be like... A part of Littlefoot's mother's soul surviving in his heart and memories or something like that?
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Ducky123 on August 22, 2016, 07:59:43 AM
It's not known whether the dark green coloured swimmer shown in LBT 1 & LBT 5 is Ducky's father. I personally believe it could very well be him.

As for Littlefoot's mother, I'm sure it's her spirit we see - that little part of her guiding Littlefoot in his heart finally showing herself to her son.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Sneak on August 22, 2016, 09:04:39 AM
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A part of Littlefoot's mother's soul surviving in his heart and memories or something like that?

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that little part of her guiding Littlefoot in his heart finally showing herself to her son.

So,you say, it is not supernatural, it's not insanity, it's just... memories and imagination?

It's complicated.
Title: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Ducky123 on August 22, 2016, 11:18:50 PM
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So,you say, it is not supernatural, it's not insanity, it's just... memories and imagination?

It's complicated.

Not quite... (well, it IS complicated). I'm actually not believing in supernatural stuff at all but here it's a plausible explanation. Littlefoot's mother appears kind of ghost-like. Could be a ghost, could be Littlefoot's mind going nuts too :p Could be some physical form of his mother that remained in Littlefoot's heart to guide him to the Great Valley until he's there and then disappear as well... many possibilities, what to believe? :p

Like I said, I think it's her spirit guiding her son but there are a few theories again how she might have done that (remnant of her soul in LF's heard like I theorised or maybe she's quickly returning from dino heaven when she heart LF's plead for help and emotional support???  :confused )
Title: Re: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Sneak on July 17, 2018, 01:23:05 PM
Heh, recently during relaxation, I again thought about Littlefoot mother's mysterious supernatural nature... Her very-correct knowledge about path to the valley and the valley itself, things she has never seen wit her own eyes before, seeing by her heart somehow... Her spirit and voice appearances two (three in book as I remember) times...

Uh, it's still hard for me to put supernatural's appearances only on Littlefoot's imagination/hallucination...

Could she actually have supervision powers during life and ghost powers during afterlife?

Don Bluth never talked about what actually happened?
Title: Re: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on July 17, 2018, 01:57:28 PM
Thw scene where Littlefoot follows the fog of his mom into the cave and the the fog becomes a longneck of clouds in the sky reminds me of the end of the original Dragonheart (starring Sean Connery) when Draco (the dragon becomes a spirit and makes a constellation of stars in the shape of a dragon.
Title: Re: Ghost Mama Longneck
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2021, 03:39:55 PM
Reminds me a bit of Rafiki's sarcasm in the lion king (after Simba saw Mufasa also as a cloud image): "What was that? The weather? Very peculiar, don't you think?"

Speaking of the Lion King, Mufasa appears in the clouds to remind Simba who he is, “remeber who you are,” and Littlefoot’s Mom does the same, Littlefoot has lost hope, “I tried Mother, I did everything you said, wait, don’t go mother!,”(paraphrase) and is lead to the Valley.