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Meaning of the LBT characters' names

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Malte279

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When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.


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Ali is only one of two names I believe where the name isn't based on the character's species name.  The other is Littefoot. :p



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Quote from: Malte279,Jun 12 2009 on  06:01 AM
When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.
It could be the writers, or whoever named her, liked the name Ali and either thought it was a female sounding name, could be used with either gender, like some names can be, or didn't care.  Using the species name like most folks are does make it easier to come up with a name.



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Quote from: Malte279,Jun 12 2009 on  01:01 PM
When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.
I do! :) A friend of my mom is named Ali and she is a maternity assistant. She actually helped me into this world. :yes


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Quote from: Mumbling,Jun 12 2009 on  09:13 AM
Quote from: Malte279,Jun 12 2009 on  01:01 PM
When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.
I do! :) A friend of my mom is named Ali and she is a maternity assistant. She actually helped me into this world. :yes
She help your mum to deliver you?


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The name Ali could refer to how she is a wanderer (bringing to mind the image of Middle Eastern nomads). Just a guess but it makes sense if you think about it.

Littlefoot could just be a joke referring to the size of Sauropods in general.

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I wonder if several Paleontologists have been shown a screenshot of Ducky and her mother and asked, what sort of dino does she look the most like, and get what their opinions were?
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That's a good idea, let's go find some paleontologists. :lol
Sorry, I’m not a paleontologist, but all things considered, I’m probably the next best thing. For those of you who haven’t read my introduction in the Welcome Center, I’ve been reading up on dinosaurs and other extinct animals for as long as I can remember, and I take great pleasure in sharing that information.

Anyway, I can tell you for a fact that, regardless of whatever dinosaur the LBT filmmakers might have intended Ducky to be, she most closely resembles a Saurolophus. The combination of the large, broad bill and spike-shaped crest are the distinguishing characteristics. By comparison, Parasaurolophus had a shorter, narrower, less duck-like bill, and even short-crested species such as P. cyrtocristatus had crests that were curved and tubular, rather than straight and pointed. Curiously enough, Saurolophus is less closely related to Parasaurolophus and other crested hadrosaurs (lambeosaurines) than it is to crestless hadrosaurs (hadrosaurines) such as Anatotitan and Edmontosaurus (formerly Trachodon and Anatosaurus, respectively).

I seriously doubt that Ducky was ever originally intended to be a Parasaurolophus, especially since there are Parasaurolophus in the first movie (you don’t have to look as far as LBT IV). Early in the film, Littlefoot’s egg rolls down a dinosaur skeleton that clearly belongs to a Parasaurolophus, and later on, during the earthshake, a couple of living Parasaurolophus can be seen running by.



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Something I thought I’d add to my earlier argument for Ducky’s species: it may be possible that Don Bluth and co. did intend for Ducky to be an Anatosaurus, but changed her to look more like a Saurolophus. (It would be very interesting to look at early conceptual artwork of the characters, so we could see how their designs changed from their initial conceptions to what we see in the movie.) Perhaps they added the crest because they thought it gave Ducky more character (I personally find that the crest greatly enhances Ducky’s cuteness :DD), which, of course, they could only do realistically if they made the adults of her species crested as well.

Obviously, we have no idea what sources Don Bluth used when he was researching dinosaurs for The Land Before Time, but when I compare the LBT dinos (the adults, mainly ;)) to the work of paleo-artists like Charles R. Knight and Zdenek Burian, I can't help but notice similarities. These artists set the standard for how dinosaurs were illustrated for much of the 20th century, and their work is prominently featured in older dinosaur books, so the possibility is high that Bluth used their paintings as the basis for many of his prehistoric characters. However, Saurolophus is one dinosaur that does not appear in the works of either of these artists, and indeed is not commonly seen in paleo-art at all. Its uncrested relatives, however, are virtual staples of prehistoric illustration, and depictions of them were far more likely to have been encountered by Bluth when he was doing his research. As a result, I don't believe it is impossible that the LBT hadrosaurs were based on species such as Anatosaurus and Trachodon, with a saurolophine crest added on for aesthetic appeal.

Of course, I could be completely wrong. The majority of this hypothesis is pure speculation, and maybe Ducky was based on a Saurolophus all along. But it’s an idea I thought I’d throw out there, just in case anyone was interested in hearing it. (Wishful thinking, maybe? :rolleyes)



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Yep, that's our best guess too and it's already on the list. :)


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Okay, this is just a guess, but...

Do you guys think that the Ozzy we all know could be a reference to Ozzy Osbourne?

It's just a guess. :P:

EDIT: Oh my gosh!

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Juliana Hansen - Ali

Could it be?  A reference to the original voice actor? :o


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Quote from: Malte279,Jun 12 2009 on  06:01 AM
When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.
actually the name Ali is commonly used in the USA as a girl name. its like short for Alison or something.


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note: this is only a joke

I bet I know what Rocky's name is a referance to *music starts up in the background*  the one the only Rocky Balboa the italian stallion.

again it was a joke so hope you enjoyed that :lol
 

 


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Theory I came up with:

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Ali
Littlefoot
AliLittlefoot
Alittlefoot
A little foot

Ali completes Littlefoot.


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Hmm...

Anyone want to start thinking up ideas of how Tricia got her name?


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I've never actually heard Tricia's name spoken, but I'm assuming it's pronounced "TRISH-ia".

Tric- = Triceratops

-ia = Added on at the end to make her name resemble a human name (Trisha)?


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I don't know if anyone already know this, but...

Tria + Cera + Topsy = Triceratops

:p


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Quote from: 2007excalibur2007,Dec 24 2009 on  02:19 AM
I don't know if anyone already know this, but...

Tria + Cera + Topsy = Triceratops

:p
LOL RLY?!

ActionWHAT9000?! already posted that.

For shame.