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The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: Pangaea on September 29, 2009, 06:00:47 PM

Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on September 29, 2009, 06:00:47 PM
red = canon, blue = fanbase

Dinosaurs*
Ankylosaurus – Clubtail
Archelon – Shellback Swimmer, Shell Swimmer, Shelled Swimmer
Beipiaosaurus – Yellow Belly
Carnivore – Sharptooth
ï Allosaurus – Ridge-Eye Sharptooth, Scrapebiter Sharptooth
ï Baryonyx – Clawhand, Fishing Sharptooth, Longnose Sharptooth, Longsnout Sharptooth
ï Deinonychus – Fastclaw, Sickleclaw, Terrorclaw
ï Liopleurodon – Sharptooth Swimmer, Swimming Sharptooth
ï Shark – Swimming Sharptooth
ï Spinosaurus – Sailback Sharptooth, Spineback, Spined Sharptooth
ï Tyrannosaurus – Bonecrusher Sharptooth, Crunchbiter, Twoclaw Sharptooth, Two Finger Sharptooth
ï Utahraptor or Velociraptor – Fast Biter
Crocodilian – Bellydragger
ï Deinosuchus – Bigmouth Bellydragger
ï Sarcosuchus – Longnose Bellydragger, Longsnout Bellydragger
Centrosaurus – Onehorn
Chasmosaurus – Squareshield
Compsognathus – Little Biter, Nipper, Safe Sharptooth*, Tiny Biter, Tiny Sharptooth
Dimetrodon – Fanback, Sailcrawler
Elasmosaurus – Longneck Swimmer, Swimming Longneck, Water Longneck
Gallimimus/Troodon – Rainbow Face
Hadrosaur – Duckbill*, Swimmer
ï Corythosaurus – Crested Swimmer, Cresthead Swimmer, Whistler, Whistling Swimmer
ï Edmontosaurus – Crestless Swimmer, Widebeak Swimmer
ï Lambeosaurus – Hornbill, Twocrest Swimmer
ï Maiasaura – Crestless Swimmer
ï Parasaurolophus – Hollowhorn, Longcrest Swimmer, Tubehead*
ï Saurolophus – Bigmouth, Swimmer
Hypsilophodon – False Sharptooth*, Runner, Sprinter
Ichthyornis – Sharpbeak
Iguanodon – False Longneck*, Spikethumb, Thornthumb
Kentrosaurus – Spikeback
Microraptor – Fourwing, Glider
Mussaurus – Tinysaurus, Tiny Longneck
Muttaburrasaurus – Bignose
Nodosaurus – Pebbleback, Shieldback
Ophthalmosaurus – Big Water Swimmer, Finned Swimmer, Squeaking Swimmer, Talkback Swimmer
Ouranosaurus – Crestback, Finback, Sailback
Oviraptor – Fast Runner
Pachyrhinosaurus – Bumphead, Thicknose
Pachycephalosaur – Bonehead, Domehead, Skull-Basher, Thickhead
ï Pachycephalosaurus – Bonehead, Domehead, Skull-Basher, Thickhead
ï Prenocephale/Stegoceras – Domehead
Pterosaur – Flyer
ï Cearadactylus – Sharptooth Flyer
ï Pteranodon – Crested Flyer, Tallcrest Flyer
ï Quetzalcoatlus – Giant Flyer
ï Rhamphorhynchus – Longtail Flyer
Sauropod – Longneck
ï Amargasaurus – Crestneck Longneck, Fin-Neck Longneck, Sailneck Longneck
ï Apatosaurus – Flathead Longneck
ï Brachiosaurus – Great Neck, Skyreacher Longneck, Tallneck
ï Camarasaurus – Squarehead Longneck
ï Diplodocus – Longsnout Longneck, Whiptail Longneck
ï Saltasaurus – Pebbleback Longneck
ï Supersaurus – Earthshake Longneck*, Earthshaker Longneck*
Scolosaurus* – Digger, Spikeback
Stegosaurus – Spiketail
Struthiomimus – Egg Eater, Egg Napper, Egg Stealer
Styracosaurus – Crownhorn, Spikefrill, Spikehead
Triceratops – Threehorn

Non-Canon Dinosaurs*
Alvarezsaurus – Oneclaw
Brachytrachelopan – False Longneck, Shortneck, Shortneck Longneck
Carnotaurus – Horned Sharptooth
Charonosaurus – Longcrest Swimmer
Einiosaurus – Frontinghorn
Gastonia – Sharptail
Irritator – Horned Clawhand
Masiakasaurus – Spikemouth
Plateosaurus – Hookthumb
Protoceratops – Nohorn, Zerohorn
Saltopus – Jumper, Leaper, Little Biter, Nipper, Safe Sharptooth*, Tiny Biter, Tiny Sharptooth
Seismosaurus – Earthshake Longneck*, Earthshaker Longneck*
Shunosaurus – Clubtail Longneck
Therizinosaurus – Bigclaw, Longclaw

Natural Objects and Phenomena
Autumn – Time of the Changing Tree Stars
Canyon – Big Ditch
Cloud – Sky Puffy
Cold Time – Winter
Crystal – Shiny Stone
Earthquake – Earthshake
Echo – Talk-Back
Geode – Sky Color Stone
Geyser – Jumping Water
Ice – Hard Water
Lava – Fire-Water, Flowing Fire
Lava Bomb – Fire Rock*
Lava Pit – Fire Pit
Lightning – Sky Fire
Meteorite – Flying Rock
Monsoon Season – Days of Rising Waters
Moon – Great Night Circle, Night Circle
Mudslide – Running Mud
Quicksand – Sinking Sand
Rain – Skywater
Rainbow – Sky Colors
River – Water Path*
River Rapids – Fast Water
Sea – Big Water
Snowflakes – Frozen Sky Stars, Frozen Skywater
Smoke – Fire Signs*
Snow – White Ground Sparkles
Stalactite or Stalagmite – Stone Tooth
Stars – Lesser Lights*
Sulfur Mud Pot – Stinky Pool
Sun – Bright Circle, Great Circle
Sunrise – Brightrise*
Sunset – Brightfall*
Thunder – Sky Boom
Tornado – Whirling Wind
Volcano – Booming Mountain, Burning Mountain, Smoking Mountain
Volcanic Crater – Gurgling Pit
Volcanic Mud – Bubbling Goo, Bubbly Goo
Winter – Cold Time

Fauna
Ammonite – Hard Floater, Swimming Shell
Bee – Buzzing Buzzer, Buzzing Stinger, Stinging Buzzer, Yellow Buzzer
Clam – Snapping Shell
Crab – Crawling Pincher, Sand Creeper
Crayfish – River Pincher
Firefly – Glowing Buzzer
Fish – Finned Swimmer, Splasher, Water Scaly, Water Splasher, Water Swimmer, Water-Breathing Swimmer
Frog – Hopper
Insect – Crawler, Creepy Crawler, Creepy Crawly, Ground Crawler
Lizard – Scaly Creeper, Scaly Crawler
Locust – Swarming Leaf-Gobbler
Mammal – Fuzzball, Fuzzer, Fuzzy, Tickly Fuzzy*
Mosquito – Swarming Biter
Snake – Scaly Nofooter, Scaly Worm
Starfish – Star Swimmer

Flora
Cloud-Tearer* – redwood tree
Flower Dust or Yellow Puffies – pollen
Green Food – vegetation
Ground Star – a star-shaped leaf from a bush
Ground Prickly – burr
Night Flower – a variety of nocturnally blooming golden flower
Pointy Seed – pinecone
Swamp Sticks* – cattails or reeds
Sweet Bubbles – grapes
Tree Fuzz – moss
Tree Star – any star-shaped leaf
Tree Sweet – fruit or tree blossom
Water Greens – aquatic vegetation

Descriptive Terms
Farwalker – any migratory land animal
Flattooth or Leafeater – any plant-eating dinosaur
Fourfooter or Fourlegger – any quadrupedal animal
Groundwalker or Landwalker – any land animal
Halftooth* – any dinosaur capable of eating both plants and meat
Sharptooth – any meat-eating dinosaur
Swimmer – any aquatic animal
Story Speaker – a traveling storyteller
Twofooter or Twolegger – any bipedal animal

Insults and Profanities
Bark Beak – insult to Leafeater Flyers
Bark Breath – insult to Leafeaters
Beakhead – a possible slur towards Flyers (and/or other beaked creatures)
Bigface – a possible slur towards Bigmouths/Swimmers
Conehead – insult to Flyers with crests (Pteranodon)
Egg – implies immaturity
Flathead – a possible slur towards Longnecks
Hatchling – implies immaturity
Leaf-Licker – a possible slur towards Leafeaters
Ground Scraper – possibly a slur towards Bellydraggers
Rockhead – general insult, possibly implies stupidity
Sap-Sucker – insult to Leafeaters
Scaredy Egg – implies cowardice
Sharptooth Dirt – extremely offensive profanity, equivalent to BS
Son of a Tar Pit – extremely offensive profanity, equivalent to SOB
Spiketail Dirt – offensive profanity, equivalent to BS
Wingbrain – insult to Flyers

Miscellaneous
Flowing Sniffer – runny nose
Foot Hole or Foot Mark – footprint
Hatch Day or Star Day – birthday
Land Foot* – the foot of a land animal
 Napeshield or Neckshield – the frill of a threehorn or other ceratopsian
Sleep Rumble – snore (to make sleep rumbles = to snore)
Sleep Story – dream
Sleep Terror* – nightmare
Sniffer – nose
Swimmer- Splasher or Swimmer and Splasher – a game played in water apparently equivalent to Marco Polo
Water Foot* – a fin, flipper, or fluke
Tickly Fuzzies – fur or hair
Time of Great Growing or Time of Rebellion – adolescence

*referenced in Notes
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on September 29, 2009, 06:00:59 PM
Notes:

ï The “Dinosaurs” list contains only species that have appeared in LBT films. There are some dinosaurs that are not included, because they have no canon names, and fanbase names have not been suggested for them yet.
ï The “Non-Canon Dinosaurs” list is for species that have not appeared in LBT films, but have had names suggested for use in fanfiction. The title is color coded blue because all of the entries are automatically fanbase.

Dinosaurs
ï “Duckbill” was used in a single scene in LBT V to describe a hadrosaur (Saurolophus) skeleton. However, it could be regarded as an anachronistic term, as it references an animal that the dinosaurs would probably not be familiar with.
ï “Earthshake Longneck”/“Earthshaker Longneck” could potentially be used for any especially large longneck species, canon or non-canon.
ï “False Sharptooth” and “False Longneck” may not be ideal names for Hypsilophodon and Iguanodon to use to refer to themselves, but could be used by dinosaurs of other kinds to refer to them (perhaps condescendingly, or out of lack of knowledge of what their actual names are).
ï “Safe Sharptooth” may not be an ideal name for Compsognathus or Saltopus to use to refer to themselves, but could be used by leafeaters to refer to them (perhaps descriptively, or out of lack of knowledge of what their actual names are).
ï “Scolosaurus” is what I have judged Rooter's species to be. My argument can be viewed here (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=2908&view=findpost&p=9113648).
ï “Tubehead” is the surname of an LBT character (presumably a Parasaurolophus), but it could conceivably be used as an alternative to “Hollowhorn”.

Natural Objects and Phenomena
ï Canon alternatives to “Brightrise” and “Brightfall” are “the Bright Circle is rising in the sky” and “the Bright Circle is going down”, respectively.
ï "Fire Rocks" was used by Littlefoot in LBT XII to refer to a volcanic area with lava pits. This may suggest that, in addition to lava bombs, the LBT dinosaurs use the term "fire rock" to refer to any rock that is hot or on fire, including meteorites and possibly even lava itself.
ï “Fire Signs” was used by Grandpa Longneck in LBT III to refer to smoke. However, given that the word “smoke” itself was used in the same movie, it may have been descriptive speaking.
ï “Lesser Lights” was used by Grandpa Longneck in LBT VI to refer to stars. However, given that the word “star” is already present in the LBT dinosaurs' vocabulary (see “tree star”), it may have been intended as poetic speaking.
ï "Water Path" has only been used in the canon by Mo, and may only be a term he invented.

Fauna
ï “Tickly Fuzzy” was used in the credits of “Stranger from the Mysterious Above” to refer to mammals, but it may have been intended as an adjective, not a species denomination.

Flora
ï “Cloud-Tearer” may not be an ideal fanbase name for redwood trees, because the canon term “Sky Puffies” is used by the LBT dinosaurs to refer to clouds. (Of course, the same issue also applies to the canon dinosaur name “Rainbow Face”, as the terms “Sky Colors” and “Skywater” are used to refer to rainbows and rain, respectively.)
ï In “The Lonely Journey”, Grandpa Longneck reminisces about having to eat “Swamp Sticks” when he was a hatchling. The exact meaning of the term is never specified, but it presumably refers to some variety of sticklike water plant, such as cattails, horsetails, or reeds.

Descriptive Terms
ï “Halfteeth” may not be an ideal term for omnivorous dinosaurs, as a number of them (e.g., Struthiomimus, Oviraptor), have no teeth. However, it could be used by strictly plant-and/or-meat-eating dinosaurs to refer to omnivorous kinds (perhaps condescendingly, or out of lack of knowledge that they are toothless).

Insults and Profanities
ï “Bark Beak” is typically used by sharptoothed or fish-eating flyers, and is considered more offensive than “Beakhead” or “Wingbrain”.

Miscellaneous
ï “Land Foot” and “Water Foot” have only been used in the canon by Mo, and may be terms he invented.
ï A canon alternative to “Sleep Terror” is simply “scary Sleep Story”.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Almaron on September 29, 2009, 06:12:06 PM
Mind if I post my thoughts?

*Hollowhorn may refer to the entire Lambeosaur family.
*Names like Tubehead may just be different last names.

EDIT:
Lesser lights may simply be poetic speaking.

I wonder if we should debate which names to use for each dinosaur. If you like, we could start a debate in the old page, so as not to clutter up this one.


Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on September 29, 2009, 06:27:11 PM
I recall seeing another term for Tyrannosaurus Rex in an LBT fanfic, though I cannot remember exactly which one. The term was Bonecrusher Sharptooth.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on September 29, 2009, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: Almaron,Sep 29 2009 on  05:12 PM
I wonder if we should debate which names to use for each dinosaur. If you like, we could start a debate in the old page, so as not to clutter up this one.
Good idea. I've already posted my responses in that thread.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Kor on September 29, 2009, 08:33:27 PM
I wonder if there is listed the 2 types of longnecks I've seen in lbt 10 as background characters.  I'm not sure I got their names right when I did the screenshots but maybe some dino experts here can tell.  & whatever type Sue & Elsie are.

Amargasaurus (longneck with what looks like a fin on it's neck): http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/K...argasaurus2.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/Kulstor/LBT/Unnamed%20Dinos/?action=view&current=Amargasaurus2.jpg)

http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/K...margasaurus.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/Kulstor/LBT/Unnamed%20Dinos/?action=view&current=Amargasaurus.jpg)

Saltosaurus (looks like it has pebble type natural armor on it's neck and back): http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/K...altasaurus2.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/Kulstor/LBT/Unnamed%20Dinos/?action=view&current=Saltasaurus2.jpg)   http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/K...altasaurus3.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/Kulstor/LBT/Unnamed%20Dinos/?action=view&current=Saltasaurus3.jpg)

one with Sue in the shot: http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/K...Saltasaurus.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/Kulstor/LBT/Group%20Char%20Shots/?action=view&current=Saltasaurus.jpg)

Part of Elsie, with Littlefoot & Chomper: http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/K...rent=Elsie2.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/Kulstor/LBT/Group%20Char%20Shots/?action=view&current=Elsie2.jpg)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Almaron on September 29, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
I actually have a list of the dinosaurs in all the films from 1-12 somewhere (I was trying to see if there were changes in the herds over time), I could upload it.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Kor on September 29, 2009, 10:13:38 PM
Maybe some of you can work on making 1 master list together.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on September 29, 2009, 11:58:57 PM
Quote from: Almaron,Sep 29 2009 on  07:40 PM
I actually have a list of the dinosaurs in all the films from 1-12 somewhere (I was trying to see if there were changes in the herds over time), I could upload it.
Me too. :yes Like Kor said, maybe we can merge those lists and isolate the dinosaurs that haven't yet received LBT names, listing them here so that people can suggest names for them. (We should probably share our lists by PM or in the other thread (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=6537), though.)

I have added entries for Amargasaurus and Elasmosaurus (Elsie's species). The latter is listed separately from "Longnecks" on account of not being a sauropod.

EDIT 1: Now Baryonyx and Camarasaurus (seen in LBT XIII and X respectively) are also on the list.

EDIT 2: Now Saltasaurus is, too.

Anyone got any suggestions for Supersaurus?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Kor on September 30, 2009, 12:19:02 AM
The only stuff I can think of is maybe pebble back longneck, or something along those lines. Not to well since it looks like it had, at least in lbt 10, some of the natural armor on it's neck also.

For Sue's type maybe huge longneck, giant longneck.  Something along those lines.   Others may have better ideas once they have time to post.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on September 30, 2009, 12:40:14 AM
I thought of "Giant Longneck" for Supersaurus, too, but it's kind of an awkward term. I don't think the LBT dinosaurs would use it, especially since, to most dinosaurs, ALL longnecks are giant. :p

"Pebbleback Longneck" is good, though. :yes That one I'm adding. Thanks, Kor.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Kor on September 30, 2009, 01:53:44 AM
maybe tall or big longneck then.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: dragoonanime on September 30, 2009, 06:52:58 PM
winter and cold times need to be switched around.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on September 30, 2009, 09:22:07 PM
Quote from: Kor,Sep 30 2009 on  12:53 AM
maybe tall or big longneck then.
Same problem. :p

Quote from: dragoonanime,Sep 30 2009 on  05:52 PM
winter and cold times need to be switched around.
Whoops! :oops pokeplayer noticed that too. Thanks to you both for being so observant and pointing that out. ;)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Almaron on October 01, 2009, 10:04:24 PM
I thought about it a bit more, and I'm sure that Flathead isn't an insult. Petrie first uses it as a nickname, after noting that Littlefoot has a head that he can sit on. Cera then uses it as an insult, trying to mock Littlefoot (Although, she seems to call him that with no prior knowledge of the conversation. It would make more sense if she'd heard Petrie call him that, so then she could be snarky to him.).
She never says it again after that, but Petrie continues to use it, as if he can't be bothered remembering Littlefoot's name, or if he just thinks it's a good nickname. He calls after him to stop him leaving, and again when he comes to save him. I doubt it would be wise to call your rescuer an insult when you face death.

(However, since it is a nickname, it probably isn't the real species name. Although it should probably be kept, as it makes species naming easier.)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Almaron on October 02, 2009, 12:24:24 AM
Got another definition!

Time Of The Changing Tree-Stars=Autumn (From LBT 6)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on October 02, 2009, 12:53:16 AM
Quote from: Almaron,Oct 1 2009 on  09:04 PM
I thought about it a bit more, and I'm sure that Flathead isn't an insult. Petrie first uses it as a nickname, after noting that Littlefoot has a head that he can sit on. Cera then uses it as an insult, trying to mock Littlefoot (Although, she seems to call him that with no prior knowledge of the conversation. It would make more sense if she'd heard Petrie call him that, so then she could be snarky to him.).
She never says it again after that, but Petrie continues to use it, as if he can't be bothered remembering Littlefoot's name, or if he just thinks it's a good nickname. He calls after him to stop him leaving, and again when he comes to save him. I doubt it would be wise to call your rescuer an insult when you face death.

(However, since it is a nickname, it probably isn't the real species name. Although it should probably be kept, as it makes species naming easier.)
Perhaps longnecks DO consider it a slur, and that's why Littlefoot didn't like it. (Of course, Petrie's overall behavior at the time was pretty annoying, :lol so that could also explain why he said "My name is not Flathead...my name is LITTLEFOOT" with such irritation in his tone.) Perhaps Petrie had heard the term spoken by someone else, and didn't understand it was offensive. Thus it endured as his name for Littlefoot for the remainder of the journey. After the gang had reunited with their families, perhaps Petrie learned from his mother or some other adult of the term's negative connotations, and consequently stopped using it. (You notice that from the beginning of LBT II, he uses the name "Littlefoot".) Cera, on the other hand, coming from a more speciesist family, understood the term better, and deliberately used it to insult Littlefoot.

Quote from: Almaron,Oct 1 2009 on  11:24 PM
Got another definition!

Time Of The Changing Tree-Stars=Autumn (From LBT 6)
Thank you! I'll add that one!
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Almaron on October 02, 2009, 03:20:26 AM
On the other hand, no-one likes to be called a name based on how they look (Freckle-Face, Big Butt, Smelly...the list of names goes on!).

EDIT: Oh wait, what about Bigmouth then? Arg, contradicted myself in my own theory. Umm...Maybe the offensiveness of names vary?

Now to change the subject:
I notice that Hatchday is the equivalent of birthday, as said by Cera in 2? Yet, in the TV series, Ruby mentions Star Day. A possible explanation is that wherever Ruby comes from, birthdays are judged using the stars, and are referred to as such. So, they mean the same thing, but they are just different names used by different herds or in different regions.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Serris on October 02, 2009, 11:47:45 PM
I think Starday and Hatchday are synonyms. The difference is probably dialect related.

And yes, I think "Flathead" is indeed a racial slur. Perhaps when Petrie first used it, he was unaware that it was an offensive term. Or perhaps "language evolution" took place; "Flathead" used to be an acceptable term but is no longer (Petrie may have learned it from an older dinosaur).
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Almaron on October 05, 2009, 03:07:23 AM
In regards to my other post, are there descriptive words used in Dink, The Little Dinosaur? We could probably add these too (In another colour. Green?) as an example of names that the fan-base could use.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Kor on October 05, 2009, 01:00:55 PM
That sounds like a good idea.  I'm sure many of the Dink terms could be used as well.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: pokeplayer984 on October 05, 2009, 01:18:51 PM
I just noticed another word that's not on there.  It's "The NightFlower".

Remember that?  It was used to cure Grandpa Longneck when he was ill in LBT 4.

Even though it was used for only one movie, shouldn't we still include it?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on October 05, 2009, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: Almaron,Oct 5 2009 on  02:07 AM
In regards to my other post, are there descriptive words used in Dink, The Little Dinosaur? We could probably add these too (In another colour. Green?) as an example of names that the fan-base could use.
I'm not a big fan of that show myself, :p and as far as I'm concerned, this is strictly an LBT glossary. If you don't mind, I'd rather keep it that way (though you can start your own glossary for Dink if you like).

Quote from: pokeplayer984,Oct 5 2009 on  12:18 PM
I just noticed another word that's not on there. It's "The NightFlower".

Remember that? It was used to cure Grandpa Longneck when he was ill in LBT 4.

Even though it was used for only one movie, shouldn't we still include it?
The Night Flower, hmm...

It would seem a more fitting entry for an LBT encyclopedia than a glossary, as it's not so much a term as a specific species of plant in the LBT universe, but I suppose I could add it in.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Amaranthine on October 18, 2009, 08:53:43 PM
I actually call Hyp's species a false sharptooth in my fanfiction. ^^
And Igonodons, false longnecks.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on October 18, 2009, 11:01:43 PM
I suppose if you used it in a fanfic, then I'm obligated to include it in the glossary. To tell you the truth, though, I can't imagine a species calling itself a "false" anything. It seems self-condescending ("false" possibly implying inferiority), and since these dinosaurs regard themselves as being different species from sharpteeth and longnecks, respectively, one would expect that their names for own kinds would not indicate any relationship. Just my opinion.

On the other hand, it's possible that dinosaurs of OTHER species might use those terms to refer to Hypsilophodon and Iguanodon, especially if they were unfamiliar with their kinds and didn't know what to call them. This would particularly make sense if the dinosaurs in question adhered to the "we never do anything together" mindset, and didn't bother to communicate with other kinds.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Amaranthine on October 18, 2009, 11:45:55 PM
^Maybe, I just thought though that since igonodons -kind of- look like longnecks and hyp's species looks a bit like a sharptooth, that they MIGHT call them that. Maybe.

I also had some ideas for profanities and insults:
*Cone head (insult to the flyers with crests)
*Spike tail dirt! (offensive profanity, basically is like BS)
*Sharptooth dirt! (EXTREMELY offensive profanity)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on October 18, 2009, 11:55:08 PM
Quote from: Rat_lady7,Oct 18 2009 on  10:45 PM
^Maybe, I just thought though that since igonodons -kind of- look like longnecks and hyp's species looks a bit like a sharptooth, that they MIGHT call them that. Maybe.
Do you still want me to include them?

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I also had some ideas for profanities and insults:
*Cone head (insult to the flyers with crests)
*Spike tail dirt! (offensive profanity, basically is like BS)
*Sharptooth dirt! (EXTREMELY offensive profanity)
Those are...interesting. :lol Did you use them in a fanfic, too?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Amaranthine on October 19, 2009, 12:06:24 AM
Quote from: Pangaea,Oct 18 2009 on  07:55 PM
Quote from: Rat_lady7,Oct 18 2009 on  10:45 PM
^Maybe, I just thought though that since igonodons -kind of- look like longnecks and hyp's species looks a bit like a sharptooth, that they MIGHT call them that. Maybe.
Do you still want me to include them?

Quote
I also had some ideas for profanities and insults:
*Cone head (insult to the flyers with crests)
*Spike tail dirt! (offensive profanity, basically is like BS)
*Sharptooth dirt! (EXTREMELY offensive profanity)
Those are...interesting. :lol Did you use them in a fanfic, too?
Yeah sure go ahead and add them. :yes

And yeah, I used all of those terms in a fanfiction.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on October 20, 2009, 08:38:37 PM
:lol

On the note of profanities, I have used "sharptooth crap" in a fanfic :lol.

Other LBT-friendly profanities I have used in RP's, Party Room, etc:

*Son of a buzzing stinger
*Son of a tarpit
*Rockhead (the equivalent to a human calling someone a s***head :p)

Feel free to add 'em if ya wish :lol.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on October 20, 2009, 11:56:41 PM
Thanks. :lol

I can remember at least one instance of "rockhead" being used in the canon, but seeing as it was spoken in the presence of Ruby, Ducky, Spike, and Chomper, I doubt the dinosaurs consider it as severe a profanity as the equivalent you described. :p

If it's all the same to you, I think I won't use "sharptooth crap", the reason being that its chief component is a modern word, and a profanity on its own (the word "sharptooth" is not needed to make it thus, though it certainly makes it sound humorous :lol). The two "son of a ___" ones I'm not sure on (whether to add them or not).

I wonder if I'm being a little too conservative when it comes to adding entries to the "Insults and Profanities" section. :unsure: I suspect that several insults uttered in the films are spur-of-the-moment improvisations by particular characters, so I guess I feel a little reluctant to imply that they are widely used profanities by including them in the glossary. For instance, I seriously doubt that Ozzy's crowning achievement as an ornithomimid insult comic (surely the mother of all leafeater-oriented slurs)...
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You leaf-loving, bush-burping, stem-smelling, garden-gorging, plant-popping, tree-tasting, dirt-devouring BEAST!
...is a particularly common insult. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Serris on October 24, 2009, 03:10:35 AM
Quote from: Pangaea,Oct 20 2009 on  11:56 PM
For instance, I seriously doubt that Ozzy's crowning achievement as an ornithomimid insult comic (surely the mother of all leafeater-oriented slurs)...
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You leaf-loving, bush-burping, stem-smelling, garden-gorging, plant-popping, tree-tasting, dirt-devouring BEAST!
I saw that particular instance as being an "insult chain"; every one of those terms is in itself an insult.

I have used the terms brightfall for sunset and brightrise for sunrise.

Regarding the "false" terminology, I agree that it is used by other dinosaurs to refer to them and may originally have had an insulting connotation but that later disappeared. I based this off how some Chinese terms for people of other races sound somewhat insulting (PM me if you want me to elaborate on this).

Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Malte279 on October 24, 2009, 05:06:09 AM
As for profanities there is one which appears in the 1998 land before time book "Let's play impossible" (the book looks very much like it was illustrated by one of the illustrators of the 1988 land before time illustrated story book). That book has Cera call Petrie "beak brain" on one occasion.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on October 26, 2009, 03:30:34 AM
Serris: You’re probably right about the insult chain (though some of its constituent insults sound a little strange on their own, in my opinion :p). Also, I’ve added those two terms relating to the Bright Circle. ;)

Malte: While I appreciate the submission, I’m a little hesitant to use it. My reasons are hard to explain, but suffice to say that it was never my intent to include terms from books about LBT in the glossary. (Frankly, I’m rather unsure on exactly how I should be handling this project; :unsure: should I be accepting terms into the glossary indiscriminately, or should there be some deliberation concerning certain terms? :confused) If you really think that I should use book terms, I should probably use a different color for them, given that their canonicity is disputable, but they don’t really count as fanbase terms, either.

Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Malte279 on October 26, 2009, 04:07:04 AM
Don't worry it was just a suggestion. Though terms of the books may be a little more "canon" than some of the terms we have come up ourselves so far. The list makes good suggestions, but there are also some terms which personally I think might sound a bit over the top in a land before time story, but that's of course a matter of taste of the authors :)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on October 27, 2009, 01:44:37 AM
^ That’s essentially the dilemma I’m facing: I don’t want to upset people by excluding terms submitted by them, but on the other hand I agree that some terms (several of whichówhile not devised by meóI added of my own accord :oops) probably wouldn’t work too well as canon (or canon-sounding) LBT language. For instance, “Twoclaw Sharptooth” and “Two Finger Sharptooth” is not an ideal name for T. rex, considering that many LBT sharptooth species have two fingers (despite the fact that, scientifically, that characteristic is almost always erroneous), and Chomper, a T. rex himself, has three fingers. :wacko

I don’t want people (particularly fanfic writers) who use the glossary to assume that just because a term’s on there, that’s what they should use. (This is one reason I made the canon and fanbase terms distinct from one another.) To summarize the purposes I intended for the glossary, it is for people who:
ï want to know if there’s a canon LBT term for something.
ï want to know the meaning of a fan-made term you saw in a fanfic.
ï need an “LBT-sounding” term for something in a fanfic, but cannot come up with one themselves (or want to know if there’s already a term out there that they might prefer over whatever they came up with).
ï have a casual interest in LBT terms.

That said, does anyone think there’s something I should be doing differently (as far as managing the glossary is concerned)? Are there certain terms that could stand to be removed? Should I cite who submitted the respective fanbase terms and/or where they came from? Should there be set criteria for accepting or rejecting possibly problematic terms? I want to make sure I’m handling this right, but I need people’s input (if only to tell me that I’m doing fine as is, and getting worked up over nothing).
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on October 28, 2009, 11:44:48 PM
I almost forgot. There was another term I heard for lightning in an LBT episode. I'm pretty sure Littlefoot or one of the characters refer to lightning as sky fire. It was in the episode where Ruby takes the others to the jumping waters, and Petrie is all petrified about bad luck due to Spike eating a red treestar.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Kor on October 29, 2009, 12:09:10 AM
I remember that, and it does make sense.  It is very bright like the sun or fire, and I'm sure sometimes some dinos have seen lightning hit a tree and a fire start, so I can see where the term came from.  Not sure where I heard it but I do remember it was called sky fire, if I'm right.  I had forgotten about that.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on October 29, 2009, 12:16:24 AM
Thank you so, so much for mentioning that. I thought I had already had "Sky Fire" on there, so I checked to make sure, and this is what I saw:
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Lightning – Lightning
:slap :bang :wacko
I've fixed it, but boy do I feel like an absentminded knucklehead. :rolleyes

For the record, I would have suggested "sky flash" if LBT hadn't already come up with a term for lightning. :p

EDIT: Ah! "Jumping waters" (geysers) isn't on there either! Thank you!
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Serris on October 29, 2009, 09:19:22 PM
I believe DarkHououmon used the term "halfteeth" to refer to omnivores in her latest story Heinous. It probably does not refer to Struthiomimus as they do not have teeth.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on October 29, 2009, 10:11:03 PM
You are correct. Halfteeth is a term I came up with for omnivores. It was pretty difficult to come up with, but I wanted to come up with a general term for omnivores since there's two for herbivores (flatteeth/leafeater) and at least one for sharpteeth (sharpteeth, although I think they use the term meateater once). Strut uses it to describe his and Ozzy's diet only, although it's probably not a wise choice of words on his end considering that, as you said, he and Ozzy don't actually have any teeth.

Here's a couple other terms from my fanfic-


Crestless Swimmer-Maiasaura (and any other crestless hadrosaur)
Yellow Puffies-Pollen
Horned Clawhand-Irritator (like a Baryonyx but smaller)
Groundwalker-Land dweller
Flowing Sniffer-Runny nose (such as from an allergic reaction)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on October 30, 2009, 02:03:41 AM
While I agree that “halfteeth” is rather awkward in its application to toothless dinosaurs, I rather like the term, and how it complements “sharpteeth” and “flatteeth” as a dietary denominator. Actually, it’s only slightly more problematic than using “flatteeth” to refer to herbivorous dinosaurs, as not all of them had teeth, either. Perhaps the leafeaters (or sharpteeth, for that matter) would use “halfteeth” as a term, not knowing or caring that Struthiomimus and Oviraptor don’t have teeth. At any rate, it’ll be included in the glossary, probably accompanied by a footnote in the “Notes” section. :p I like the term “flowing sniffer” as well; I’ll be using it, too.

Maiasaura does have a sort of a crest, but compared with other hadrosaurs like Corythosaurus and Parasaurolophus, it’s not much more than a lump on the forehead, and so far, yours is the only name I’ve seen anyone come up with for that dinosaur. :P: (It’s rather incredible just how difficult Maiasaura is to name.)

“Flower dust” and “Landwalker” have already been used in the LBT series to refer to pollen and terrestrial animals respectively, but I can add your terms to the list anyway.

The one term I don’t think I’ll be adding is “Horned Clawhand”, as Irritator does not appear in the canon LBT series. (I suppose I could add another section to the glossary devoted to dinosaur species that appear only in fanfics, but not in the LBT films, but I’d just as well not bother unless I receive a substantial amount of urging to do so.) However, “clawhand” strikes me as a good name for Baryonyx, so you’ve still made a contribution with that term. (Incidentally, the book The Land Before Time: The Illustrated Story refers to the Struthiomimus that tries to steal Littlefoot’s egg as a “claw-hand” as well.)

Thanks for the terms, Kacie! :)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: TheGirlFromFinland on November 20, 2009, 04:39:11 PM
In my little LBT fanon dinosaurs named Troodon are called as a thinker (Since scientists are thinking Troodon as smartest dinosaur) and some dinosaurs call fire as land lighting. Adultscence is sometimes called as Time of Rebellion.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ptyra on December 27, 2009, 02:59:47 AM
May I recommend the term "Long Claw" for Therzinosaurus? It would be apt. And maybe "Giant Flier" for Quetzalcoatlus?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on December 27, 2009, 09:15:31 AM
That's certainly what I'd call a Therizinosaurus if I was an LBT dinosaur, :p but at this time I'm limiting the glossary to species that have appeared in the LBT franchise. I suppose I can't argue with "Giant Flyer" (which I have now added), but there's something bugging me: have the LBT characters ever actually used the word "giant"? :huh: It seems like they always substitute it with "great".
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ptyra on January 01, 2010, 03:40:06 AM
Hm. Maybe we should do a fandom-wise dictionary so we can get other species in, like "Longclaw."

And I have another list of insults:[/color]
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on January 01, 2010, 04:26:02 AM
Seeing as the LBT Glossary isn't receiving a whole lot of new additions (thereby giving me less to do as far as updating it is concerned), and there have already been a number of people who have come forth with names for non-LBT dinosaurs, perhaps I'll make that my first new LBT project for 2010. Thanks, Ptyra. :)

I've always thought that "tar" was an unusually modern word for the LBT dinosaurs to use, but Littlefoot does use the term "tar pit" in movie #3, and you're the second person to suggest that particular insult, so I'll do it. :p

How would you define "Son of a Tar Pit"? Somehow, "general insult" seems insufficient. :unsure:

"Bark Beak" has been added as well. It's the first insult to receive an entry under "Notes", describing its application in greater detail. Let me know if what I've written is incomplete and/or inaccurate. ;)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ptyra on January 20, 2010, 10:39:51 PM
I was thinking "son of a tarpit" would go under extreme profanity (In my fan-episode, I have it directed toward Red Claw)...kind of like S.o.B...

And as for the non-LBT dinosaurs dictionary, I found a big ol' list of dinosaurs to re-name as LBT...and so people can have more ideas of what kinds to use for fan characters.
Set one (http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/)
Set two (http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/) This one is MUCH more expansive than the other one.

I came here while I was looking for "new" species to use in my fanfictions. Here's an example of what I found, Saltopus (http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/). The character's name is Topus.
I would call this kind either a "safe sharptooth", since they primarily eat incests and carrion, or perhaps a "crawler-eating sharptooth".
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on January 20, 2010, 11:56:34 PM
Urg...Sorry about taking so long with this. :slap I've added a new section to the glossary for non-canon dinosaurs (i.e., dinosaurs that appear in fanfictions, but not in the official LBT series). I've also updated the entry for "Son of a Tar Pit".

I can't imagine the term "safe sharpteeth" being used to refer to one's own species. :lol I presume it's a term the leafeaters use for them?

Just so you know, Saltopus is not generally considered to be a true dinosaur nowadays, but a basal dinosauriform, related to the direct ancestors of dinosaurs. I don't think the LBT dinosaurs would know the difference, though.

One more thing: all of your links lead to the same site. :huh:
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ptyra on January 20, 2010, 11:59:27 PM
Yeah, I thought "safe sharptooth" seemed a little odd too, but it does sound like a leaf-eater term. They certainly wouldn't know the difference. As far as I know, they could call Mo a dinosaur XD !

The links do lead to the same site, but second list is WAAAAY longer than the other.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on January 21, 2010, 12:20:43 AM
Here's another list of dinosaurs I found, if it helps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dinosaurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dinosaurs)

Edit: Here's some additional lists:

Pterosaurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pterosaurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pterosaurs)
Mosasaurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosasaurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosasaurs)
Pliosaurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliosaur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliosaur)
Plesiosaurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_plesiosaurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_plesiosaurs)
Ichthyosaurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ichthyosaurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ichthyosaurs)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ptyra on January 21, 2010, 12:27:11 AM
Yes, that would be VERY helpful O_O .
Now we can have plenty more ideas for "original" characters :D !
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on January 21, 2010, 01:01:09 AM
Quote from: Ptyra,Jan 20 2010 on  10:59 PM
The links do lead to the same site, but second list is WAAAAY longer than the other.
The trouble is, they don’t just lead to the same site, but the exact same PAGE. :blink: Evidently all of the pages on that site have the same URL. :rolleyes I’m familiar with Zoom Dinosaurs. I suppose it’s a pretty good site for someone with a casual interest in dinosaurs, but unfortunately it hasn’t been updated for most of the decade (go to “List of Dinos” and you’ll see there’s not a dinosaur on there that was named later than 2001), and thus has no information on the many recent species that have been discovered.

A couple of frequently updated dinosaur sites I visit a lot are Thescelosaurus! (http://www.thescelosaurus.com/) and DinoData (http://www.dinodata.org/), but they’re much more scientific, and not easy for the non-paleo-nut to comprehend. Plus, while they provide lots of dinosaur names, they don’t show what most of them look like. There’s also this site (http://www.palaeocritti.com/), which is far more layperson-friendly. Otherwise, if anyone needs suggestions for a dinosaur species to fill a particular OC role, they can always ask me. :smile

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Yeah, I thought "safe sharptooth" seemed a little odd too, but it does sound like a leaf-eater term. They certainly wouldn't know the difference. As far as I know, they could call Mo a dinosaur XD !
Actually, now that I think about it, I’m not even sure the leafeaters would regard Saltopus as a sharptooth. :unsure: Apart from the pointy teeth and non-herbivorous habits, it doesn’t have much in common with the large, dangerous creatures whose name probably serves as an alarm call (consider the first thing that's usually shouted whenever a predatory dinosaur shows up) as much as it does a species designation. I’m just thinking out loud here, but alternatively, an LBT Saltopus could be called a “jumper” or “leaper” (since its name translates to “leaping foot”), or even something like  “nipper” or “tiny biter”. (Perhaps Thud was comparing Chomper to a Saltopus when he kept calling him “Little Biter” in “Escape From the Mysterious Beyond”?) On the other hand, maybe having sharp teeth and eating insects is enough to warrant being called a sharptooth, and Saltopus would be called a “tiny sharptooth” (or either of the names you came up with). Hmm...perhaps I should add all of those names?

Wonder what they would call Mo. “Swimmer” is way too general...

EDIT: Wow! Took me a long time to write this. :blink: Thank you, Kacie!
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Serris on January 29, 2010, 07:02:43 PM
What about Utahraptor or would the LBT dinos just see it as a giant Deinonychus (technically, it makes a little bit of sense because they are both Dromaeosauridae)?

And you have Deinonychus repeated twice:

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Ankylosaurus – Clubtail
Archelon – Shellback Swimmer, Shell Swimmer, Shelled Swimmer
Beipiaosaurus – Yellow Belly
Carnivore – Sharptooth
ï Allosaurus – Ridge-Eye Sharptooth, Scrapebiter Sharptooth
ï Baryonyx – Clawhand, Longnose Sharptooth, Longsnout Sharptooth
ï Deinonychus – Fastclaw, Sickleclaw, Terrorclaw
ï Liopleurodon – Sharptooth Swimmer, Swimming Sharptooth
ï Shark – Swimming Sharptooth
ï Spinosaurus – Sailback Sharptooth, Spineback
ï Tyrannosaurus – Bonecrusher Sharptooth, Crunchbiter, Twoclaw Sharptooth, Two Finger Sharptooth
ï Velociraptor – Fast Biter
Crocodilian – Bellydragger
ï Deinosuchus – Bigmouth Bellydragger
ï Sarcosuchus – Longnose Bellydragger, Longsnout Bellydragger
Centrosaurus – Onehorn
Chasmosaurus – Squareshield
Deinonychus – Fastclaw, Sickleclaw

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Wonder what they would call Mo. “Swimmer” is way too general...

Maybe Big Water Swimmer or Finned Swimmer?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on January 30, 2010, 12:45:34 AM
Quote from: Serris,Jan 29 2010 on  06:02 PM
What about Utahraptor or would the LBT dinos just see it as a giant Deinonychus (technically, it makes a little bit of sense because they are both Dromaeosauridae)?
I'd assume they'd simply consider a Utahraptor a large version of a Deinonychus or Velociraptor, and refer to it by the same name(s). (Incidentally, the size of the fast biters in LBT VII, XI, XIII, and the TV series looks about right for Utahraptor, even though they are presumably intended to be Velociraptor.)

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And you have Deinonychus repeated twice:
Oh, darn it! :slap Thanks for catching that.

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Wonder what they would call Mo. “Swimmer” is way too general...
Maybe Big Water Swimmer or Finned Swimmer?
Not bad, although “Big Water Swimmer” could apply to any marine creature, and “Finned Swimmer” sounds equally appropriate for fish. I'll add them anyway, though.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on January 30, 2010, 01:36:58 AM
Maybe Squeaking Swimmer or Talkback Swimmer, refering to their echo? I think that's how Mo communicates with his family, isn't it?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on January 30, 2010, 03:57:51 PM
Those are pretty good. I've added them as well. :)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: pokeplayer984 on February 09, 2010, 10:37:54 AM
I found an official term.

In the episode, The Bright Circle Celebration, a meteor flies through the air and hits the valley.  Cera asks what it was to her dad and Topsy simply calls it, "A Fire Rock".

So simply, a meteor is also called a Fire Rock.

EDIT: Oh, and when it snowed in the same episode, they called the snow "Frozen Sky Water".
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on February 11, 2010, 09:39:21 AM
It sure looked like a meteorite, but immediately after the fire started, Littlefoot implied that it had come from a smoking mountain. "fire rock" was previously used to refer to lava bombs in "Canyon of the Shiny Stones", while the term "flying rock" is reserved for meteorites. (I'd even go so far as to guess that if the rock was intended to be a meteorite, there was some miscommunication between the animators and the scriptwriters, and it was instead described as a lava bomb.) I'm hesitant to use both terms, for fear of making things confusing.

I'll add "frozen skywater", though.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Sky on February 17, 2010, 05:31:19 PM
Hmm... I don't understand the term "Fourwing" for Microraptors exactly. Can somebody clear me up? :unsure:
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on February 17, 2010, 06:24:02 PM
Quote from: Sky,Feb 17 2010 on  05:31 PM
Hmm... I don't understand the term "Fourwing" for Microraptors exactly. Can somebody clear me up? :unsure:
Microraptors have essentially four wings. Not only their front limbs, but back limbs adapted into wings.

http://www.wissenschaft-online.de/sixcms/m...roraptor_3_.jpg (http://www.wissenschaft-online.de/sixcms/media.php/591/microraptor_3_.jpg)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Sky on February 18, 2010, 02:08:38 AM
Ah, I see now. Thanks for clearing me up.  :)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Kor on February 18, 2010, 05:28:03 AM
It may be the same thing pbs had a show about in 2008 on their Nova program.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolutio...d-dinosaur.html (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolution/four-winged-dinosaur.html)

& the program seems to be up on Youtube too

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9kQDA51Mp0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9kQDA51Mp0)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ptyra on March 08, 2010, 10:43:47 PM
I've been thinking about how Baryonyx were supposed to be fish eaters and scavangers. Could we possibly add Fishing Sharptooth to the list for Baryonyx?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on March 08, 2010, 11:36:40 PM
^ Well...they were portrayed as hunting like typical sharpteeth in LBT XIII, and the word “fish” has never been heard in LBT, but I guess so.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: pokeplayer984 on May 11, 2010, 09:17:09 AM
In LBT 10, Petrie says, "Me think you mainly hurt her Brag Bone."  I'm guessing that Brag Bone means Pride or Ego.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on May 15, 2010, 01:02:39 AM
^ It probably does, but personally, I didn't think of it as a LBT term. It reminded me of the term "funny bone" (referring to one's sense of humor as an imaginary physical component of the body). Perhaps a little anachronistic for LBT, but think "brag bone" was basically an idiom of the same concept.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Malte279 on May 15, 2010, 05:03:12 AM
I always thought it to be meant to sound similar to "back bone" (a term used by her father in LBT 5: "Show some backbone!").
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on May 17, 2010, 12:17:49 PM
I think "brag bone" is used as a sarcastic figure of speech on Petrie's part that was referring to Cera's pride.  

"Show some backbone!" is a figure of speech for not acting like a coward and actually showing courage.  Same idea as "Grow a pair!"

"Funny bone" is believed to be a bone in the elbow that hurts when its struck directly, but actually its the ulnar nerve which is located in the elbow.  So, when you've hit your elbow and that awful painful feeling sets in, you've actually hit a nerve and not a bone.  As Pangaea said, funny bone also refers to sense of humor.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on May 21, 2010, 02:59:56 AM
I also seem to recall hearing people say things like "his funny bone must be broken!" to imply that someone has no sense of humor. Likewise, to have a "hurt brag bone" would mean that your pride has been wounded. (I personally didn't interpret Petrie as being sarcastic when he used the phrase, but that's just me.)

EDIT: You know, I could conceivably start a new section for figures of speech used by the dinosaurs in LBT, but I'm not sure if there are enough of them to bother doing so. :unsure:

Can anyone else think of similar idioms to the "brag bone" expression in LBT?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ptyra on July 07, 2010, 07:14:38 PM
I have recently decided to change one of my OCs into a Paluxysaurus, which as some of you might know is a type of small Brachiosaurus, about 60 feet long with a 26 foot neck, and having high cheeks for its type of dinosaur... And is also one of the state dinosaurs of Texas; a fossil can be found at the Ft. Worth Museum of Science and History, which has recently been remodeled (http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/hires/1-worldsfirsts.jpg) (This picture was from my beloved old version, when it was a much cooler to take a snap of it)

So, what would it be called? From the list of Brachiosaurus, I would say something like "Small Skyreacher Longneck" or "Small Tallneck" (sounds ironic XD ).
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on July 07, 2010, 08:45:26 PM
Well, Brachiosaurus was 85 feet long, so Paluxysaurus isn't really that much smaller (by comparison, the real-life Amargasaurusóthe frill-necked sauropod seen briefly in LBT X and IXówas only 33 feet long!). Unfortunately, it’s not an especially distinctive sauropod, so coming up with a good LBT name for it is a challenge. If LBT X was anything to go by, the different longneck species don’t seem to differentiate themselves very much, so you could probably just describe your character as looking like a small (*insert LBT Brachiosaurus name of choice*). Of course, if he/she is not fully grown, then this might not help much. :unsure:
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Blitz on August 03, 2010, 10:42:58 PM
What about "land foot"? Mo said that as a part of the line "Mo no got land foot like Littlefoot. Mo got water foot!" With that said, wouldn't that term refer to a land walker?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on August 06, 2010, 10:08:56 AM
Hmm…you bring up an interesting point. My initial response would be to say that it’s sort of a redundant term, as the word “foot” in itself denotes the limb of a land animal used for walking, and is probably not a genuine LBT term. However, it seems likely to me that, given his limited Leafeater vocabulary, Mo invented the terms “land foot” and “water foot” himself to distinguish limbs or appendages used for walking and swimming respectively (not knowing what the Leafeater terms were), using “foot” because he didn’t know of a Leafeater word to describe a limb in general. So perhaps I will add it, with the annotation that it is probably a term Mo invented. Thanks, Blitz. :yes
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Dinonut on September 14, 2010, 01:04:02 AM
That is very interesting.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: LBTDiclonius on December 29, 2010, 05:57:41 PM
I was reading something in a fanfic about "Earthshaker Longnecks" and I didn't see it on the list up here. You know what those are? :huh: Because I haven't the slightest clue what species they were in the Sauropod family but they must be big. Think you could find them?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on December 29, 2010, 06:54:10 PM
I'm guessing the term refers to Seismosaurus, an exceptionally large sauropod originally estimated to have been 150–170 feet long. Its name literally translates to “earthquake reptile”. A recent reevaluation of the Seismosaurus fossil material concluded that its size had been miscalculated; the revised estimate is 110 feet. Furthermore, the specimen is now widely considered to represent a large Diplodocus (the same species as Doc from LBT VI), so Seismosaurus is not really considered to be its own dinosaur anymore (much as Brontosaurus is now considered to be a species of Apatosaurus). Still, scientific accuracy has never been a major concern with LBT, :p and the term could apply to other large longneck species such as Supersaurus (Sue from LBT X).

By the way, can you please tell me what fanfiction you are talking about specifically? Just so I know what your source was. Thanks for your submission. :)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: LBTDiclonius on December 30, 2010, 12:26:30 AM
Thanks for clearing that one up. Wow you really know your dinosaurs. Your welcome!  :D

As for the fanfic I believe it was The Land Before Time XIII Sahala's Return. Where this longneck seperated from her parents was found and raised by a herd of, you guessed it, Earthshaker Longnecks.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Sleeping-force's-inside on July 14, 2013, 08:43:39 AM
Quote from: Pangaea,Feb 11 2010 on  08:39 AM
It sure looked like a meteorite, but immediately after the fire started, Littlefoot implied that it had come from a smoking mountain. "fire rock" was previously used to refer to lava bombs in "Canyon of the Shiny Stones", while the term "flying rock" is reserved for meteorites. (I'd even go so far as to guess that if the rock was intended to be a meteorite, there was some miscommunication between the animators and the scriptwriters, and it was instead described as a lava bomb.) I'm hesitant to use both terms, for fear of making things confusing.
 
Sorry for popping in late, but couldn't it be that they use 'Fire Rock' for any flying rock that is also hot? That could both apply to the Meteorite (Flying Rock that is on FIRE) and the Lava-bombs (Fire Rocks that FLIES)...
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Pangaea on July 17, 2013, 03:46:16 PM
Don't worry, you're not "late"; this is meant to be a continually updated thread. I'm happy to see some new activity in it. :smile

You make a good point, although personally I'm not 100% convinced.

However, I remembered something else that I somehow forgot to bring up in that earlier discussion: in LBT XII, Littlefoot uses the term "fire rocks" to refer to the lava pits Guido is sleepwalking towards. I always thought that was awfully strange; I have a bit of a hard time believing that he's referring to the lava itself as "rocks"; although lava in real life often can look like a slow-motion avalanche of red-hot rocks, LBT lava is almost always in the molten state of typical Hollywood lava. There did seem to be rocks in the lava that were presumably red-hot, which Littlefoot may have been referring to, in which case "fire rock" may refer to any rock that is on fire, period. Maybe I'll add a new footnote to the glossary that mentions this possibility…

Thanks for your contribution! :D
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on December 29, 2014, 05:02:07 PM
I'm not sure half tooth was ever used.  Personally, I'd use Bothtooth as it fits more with "omnivore".  

So far the only Bothteeth we've seen are Ruby and her family and the Domeheads.  (Unless the Rainbow Faces were Galllimimus, which I hope they aren't, as that would ruin a fanfic of mine.  Gallimimus is another example of Bothtooth.)

What type of dino is a Rainbow Face?  Wikipedia seems to be confused.  Gallimimus would be a type of Fast Runner, which the Rainbow Faces don't seem to be.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on December 29, 2014, 05:18:12 PM
This glossary is for both canon and noncanon LBT terms. Halftooth is a noncanon term (if I remember right, things in red are canon, things in blue are noncanon). I like halftooth more because it describes how an omnivore is halfway between a carnivore and an herbivore.

You can try PMing Pangaea and informing him of your omnivore term, bothtooth, so it can be included here in the list.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on January 10, 2015, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: Pangaea,Oct 28 2009 on  10:16 PM
Thank you so, so much for mentioning that. I thought I had already had "Sky Fire" on there, so I checked to make sure, and this is what I saw:
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Lightning – Lightning
:slap :bang :wacko
I've fixed it, but boy do I feel like an absentminded knucklehead. :rolleyes

For the record, I would have suggested "sky flash" if LBT hadn't already come up with a term for lightning. :p

EDIT: Ah! "Jumping waters" (geysers) isn't on there either! Thank you!
I believe that lightning is "sky fire".  

Also, are we sure that Gallimimus = Rainbow Face?  Gallimimus is an omnivore.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on January 10, 2015, 09:20:56 PM
What the rainbowfaces are has been debated. I had thought troodon (another omnivore), but I think the most popular idea is that the hidden runners are troodons, while the rainbowfaces are gallimimus.

True they're omnivores, but so are the domeheads (last I checked), and even the ceratopsians (the horned dinosaurs such as threehorns) are considered to be omnivorous. My guess is that the valley is tolerant of certain omnivores. Or it could just be the creators didn't really think this through too much, which is likely. Or perhaps, also likely, any omnivorous dinosaur in the valley is pretty much fully vegetarian except in special cases (the eggstealers of the second movie and Ruby of the series being such examples).
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ducky123 on January 11, 2015, 08:40:35 AM
Guido's supposed to be a Microraptor too and we don't see him eating meat (only a worm and certainly no green food which he can't chew to begin with...). Though Guido's body design is kind of differing from a realistic Microraptor I believe. As DarkHououmon said I think the writers just didn't care that much about the diet of certain species (if they don't into your concept, make them fit in...). I guess that's what they thought. Guido looks really... odd. They made him look odd to show his... weirdness.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on March 17, 2015, 01:15:43 PM
The term raptor doesn't mean anything.  Oviraptor also doesn't mean carnivore as Ruby's kind is an omnivore and is so, in fact, in real life.  

Also, does anyone have a term for "tornado"?   If not, I was going to suggest "Sky Twirly".  It would go along the lines of "Sky Puffy" (cloud).

Also, I created a term called "Fanged Flattooth" for dinos like Domeheads and Deinocherius.  It's actually a slight misnomer like "Tiny Longneck".   It's not really a Flattooth at all, but a kind of omnivore that has teeth and can actually eat bigger meat than Ruby could and indeed could eat other dinos if it wanted.   Such a thing HAD to exist....somewhere.  

As for....er.....farting, I believe the two terms I've seen are

1.) Rude Bottom Noises

2.) [Insert Name here]'s tush has blown a boomer.


Also, has anyone figured out the difference between "Sharptooth Flyer" and "Sharp Beak" or are the two the same thing like "Tiny Longneck" and "Tinysaurus"?  

Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 17, 2015, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: LittlefootAndAliTogether,Mar 17 2015 on  01:15 PM
The term raptor doesn't mean anything.
Actually, yes it does have a meaning. It comes from a latin word that means "to seize" or "take by force". It is also a word used for birds of prey, such as eagles and hawks. The term 'raptor' would indeed imply an animal that did some form of hunting, so both carnivores and omnivores would apply. You wouldn't see that term used for a deer or a cow.
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Hardback247 on September 03, 2015, 09:06:28 PM
I noticed that in The Great Longneck Migration, the characters keep on referring to dreams as "sleep stories." But in The Secret of Saurus Rock, Littlefoot literally says that he had a bad dream. A little consistency is all I ask! Do the writers always have to come up with cute-sounding alternatives for words we take for granted?
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: DarkHououmon on September 03, 2015, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: Hardback247,Sep 3 2015 on  09:06 PM
I noticed that in The Great Longneck Migration, the characters keep on referring to dreams as "sleep stories." But in The Secret of Saurus Rock, Littlefoot literally says that he had a bad dream. A little consistency is all I ask! Do the writers always have to come up with cute-sounding alternatives for words we take for granted?
Didn't they use the term "rain" once, too? I forget if they did, but I kind of remember somewhere them saying "rain", but then I think in the TV show they said "sky water".
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ducky123 on September 04, 2015, 09:51:50 AM
Let's hope they keep these LBT-terms in LBT 14 :) A little consistency would be nice indeed...
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Belmont2500 on December 13, 2015, 05:59:34 AM
Carcharodontosaurus - Bloodletting Sharptooth

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/extinctlife/images/f/f0/PD_Carcharodontosaurus.jpg)
Title: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Ducky123 on February 08, 2016, 12:32:56 PM
I have a theory concerning Ali's name... though keep in mind this is just my speculation...

[A]patosaurus [l]ousae = Ali
Title: Re: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: Belmont2500 on December 02, 2018, 01:56:15 PM
I've believe I have something else that could be an addition.

Paralititan - Ridgeneck

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dinosaurs/images/4/42/Paralititan1DB.jpg)
Title: Re: The Land Before Time Glossary
Post by: RainbowFaceProtege on April 13, 2020, 04:40:49 PM
This is very helpful for writing! Glad to have found this list.

I am wondering, however, about the official spelling/punctuation of these terms. Are all the terms on this list spelled according to canon, such as the back of DVD cases, subtitles, books, etc.? I always have a hard time figuring out if a term should be two separate words (leaf eater), hyphenated (leaf-eater), or one word (leafeater).