The Gang of Five

The Land Before Time => LBT Projects => Topic started by: RockingScorpion on February 16, 2016, 12:46:49 PM

Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 16, 2016, 12:46:49 PM
[align=center]Welcome to what might very well be my biggest fanart project so far. :)

The title pretty much says it already, so without a lot of blabbering, here it is:

(http://orig13.deviantart.net/8239/f/2016/047/9/1/web_by_rockingscorpion-d9rzdnb.png)

Also, I made a test print already, for me to figure some stuff out that can be improved, but here it is anyway:

(http://orig12.deviantart.net/6a90/f/2016/047/4/6/image_by_rockingscorpion_d9rzcsa_by_rockingscorpion-d9rzdkw.jpg)
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And now that the stuff to look at is out of the way ( xD ) I can start talking now.

The things you can see on the card:

Categories
The different categories like size, speed, etc, pretty much explain themselves, the usual top trumps stuff.
Every category can go up to 100 maximum, except size which is what I believe fits to the character if it's not absolutely clear.
There might be some cards that are better than other cards, but my goal is that even the weakest one will have a way to beat the strongest one.

The Treestar Symbol
That one right next to the name. It indicates what the character eats. There will be herbivore, carnivore and omnivore, and it can used to beat other cards as well. When the whole set of cards is done, I'll make a guide to explain how that one works in a better way.
The symbol can also be seen behind the categories, it'll make the cards a little bit different. Carnivores will get a bone instead of the treestar and omnivores will get treestar+bone together

Two trees and a Hill symbol
This is about the habitat, there will be land, water and sky. water will be blue with some underwater plants and sky will be a different blue with some clouds. It also can be used in the game but as I said, the guide will explain that one.
The habitat also shows in the general color of the card. Green for land, and then different shades of blue for sky or water.



How big will the whole set be?

28 different cards. Jup, that is quite a lot, so I'll take my time on this thing. I'm only one person after all and cloning isn't an option, sadly. :D
With that amount of cards, two and four people can play at the same time.
But I will finish it, no matter how long it takes.

But here's a point where I can use the help of everyone in here. :)
I made a list of characters that will be in this set no matter what, but there are still 10 characters missing.

So if you know any LBT character you want in this game and who isn't on the list below, write it down as a comment.

The list contains (ticks mean the card is already finished):
Littlefoot ✓
Ducky ✓
Cera ✓
Spike ✓
Petrie ✓
Ruby ✓
Chomper ✓
Sharptooth (original movie) ✓
Littlefoot's Mother ✓
Littlefoots Grandparents (on one card together)
Ali ✓
Topsy ✓
Bron ✓
Shorty ✓
Pterano ✓
Mo ✓
Redclaw
Screech/Thud (on one card together)
Doc ✓

Just keep in mind that the character you choose should have at least some influence to the story.
Once I finished all the cards listed above, I'll make a poll including all the characters you guys suggested, and the top 10 will make it to the game.
Of course, if there will only be 10 characters total, a poll won't be necessary.
To keep it fair, you only can name up to two characters in your comment.

Suggestions already received:

Dil/Ichy (one card)
Ozzy/Strut (one card) ✓
Ruby's Parents (one card)
Rinkus/Sierra (one card)✓
Chomper's Parents (one card)
Rainbowfaces
Yellowbellies


Last but not least:

Once the set is all done (and once I figured out the best way to print it), I'll give out a pdf file, or maybe two pdf files, so that you can print them and play the game yourself.
I think I might be able to finish the set in May, but that might be totally not the case. We will see about that, I don't wanna rush myself here.

Sooo - I guess that's all there is to say for now.

...well...

Probably not. xD

So if anything isn't clear, let me know and I'll answer that as well.
RockingScorpion
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: DarkWolf91 on February 16, 2016, 12:55:32 PM
Awesome! Such a neat idea!
Well, since the line-up seems a little tilted in favor of herbivores, I guess I'll suggest some omnivores/carnivores. How about Dil and Ichy(one card) and Ozzy and Strut(one card)?
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: The Lone Dragon on February 16, 2016, 09:43:05 PM
This is brilliant! :)littlefoot
I wish you all the best of luck in this endeavour.
The characters I would recommend are the parents of the main cast (Ruby's parents could be on the same card), I would also recommend Rinkus and Sierra.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: vonboy on February 16, 2016, 09:55:05 PM
This is an awesome idea, Scorpion!

For suggestions, all I can think of at the moment is Chomper's Parents (Both together on one card)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on February 17, 2016, 04:40:01 AM
Idea is awesome!
And design is beautiful! good job :D




Funny, sometimes I imagine LBT as similar game.  

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Sharptooth (original movie)
ha ha ha

I always give him characteristics like this:

size: 90
speed: 60
attack: 90 (200 in Demented Fury state)
danger: 100
intelligence: 80 (10 in Demented Fury state)
health: 100 (immune to any physical attacks)
leaps: 90 (200 in Demented Fury state)
sight range: 75 (can observe only one side due to damage eye)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 18, 2016, 09:18:57 PM
Thanks for all the feedback, guys, I didn't expect that much of it :)

Good suggestions there, Darkwolf, and yeah, this can use some villains  :)littlefoot

Some stats you gave him are pretty close to what I have in mind for him, Snik.
But this also tells me I should make something clear, and that would be size.

The only reason this category is different from the others is because there can be (and is) some actual science behind it: we know how big the dinosaurs in the movie were, and I'll use that as a reference. It is in the metric system though, because that's the only one I understand. So yeah, Littlefoot might be about 4 meters, and the next character might be about 0,6 meters. Which one? Well...


[align=center](http://orig13.deviantart.net/7c0e/f/2016/049/1/4/duckycard_by_rockingscorpion-d9s9lci.png)[/align]

There's one downside though, I saved the Ducky file in a way that it can't be worked on again (for the ones who know about that stuff, I accidentally rasterized the vector and then saved it, which is bad lol.)
It had a pretty decent size though and was still good enough for the card but it is a bummer. I'm going to continue on new pictures for now, but at some point I'll recreate that Ducky. The shading effects are all applied already, so it's just pure tracing, but it still is some work.

I just don't like this at all, that's why I'll recreate it. xD

RS
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on February 18, 2016, 10:21:47 PM
Well, how about the Rainbowfaces or (don't hate me...) THE YELLOWBELLIES!!! ?  :p
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 21, 2016, 10:20:52 PM
Yellowbellies, aww yiss. Best card of the whole game. :D

Another one got finished today:

[align=center](http://orig11.deviantart.net/876e/f/2016/052/b/2/ceracard_by_rockingscorpion-d9snsxy.png)[/align]

Two more and the original gang will be finished. :)littlefoot  
Might do that next week, we'll see. :)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Dalekdino on February 22, 2016, 01:32:53 AM
Yay Cera! And she's nice and shiny.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on February 22, 2016, 05:25:45 AM
Bossy Cera. Nice!


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shiny
lol
I think they all are pretty shiny
 :smile
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Dalekdino on February 22, 2016, 05:40:20 AM
Quote from: Snik,Feb 22 2016 on  10:25 AM

lol
I think they all are pretty shiny
 :smile
Well I like seeing my favourite character all shiny.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Kor on February 22, 2016, 11:43:18 AM
This is a great idea and seems more then just you are having fun with it.    :DD  :wow
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 22, 2016, 02:14:50 PM
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nice and shiny
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all are pretty shiny
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seeing my favourite character all shiny

Well...

(http://orig14.deviantart.net/58c2/f/2016/053/c/8/goldfoot_by_rockingscorpion-d9sq5w9.png)

(http://orig01.deviantart.net/5417/f/2016/053/5/3/goldcera2_by_rockingscorpion-d9sq6t9.png)

Perks of working nondestructive: Messing around with the colors can be done with very little effort. :D

And thanks for all the comments.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Dalekdino on February 22, 2016, 02:23:01 PM
Ahhhhhhhh......... Gold..  :)littlefoot
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on February 22, 2016, 04:22:14 PM
:D :D

You need to hide those statues in the deep of game. It will be secret prize to those who keeps searching no matter what (as Littlefoot and gang searched for Great Valley)

:)littlefoot

(hmm, does Ducky have addiction to gold more than to sky color stones?..)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on February 22, 2016, 06:02:35 PM
Good one again!  :smile
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: action9000 on February 22, 2016, 10:18:40 PM
Holy crap, okay that's brilliant!

An LBT CARD GAME! Geez, I love it!  :)littlefoot  :DD  :lol:  :D

I almost missed this because it was under Fanart! Is this actually a playable card game? Do you have rules or do you plan on having a Print and Play release up somewhere so we can make our own to play? That would be great!
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 22, 2016, 10:32:58 PM
The rules are explained in the start post, but the basic idea is a top trumps, so higher value beats lower value, pretty simple.

And yeah, once all the cards are done, I'll release a pdf file so everyone can print these out, together with some small guide to explain the not-so-obvious stuff about the cards. ;)

I think the whole set should be done somewhere between April and May, if nothing gets in the way.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: action9000 on February 22, 2016, 10:35:45 PM
That's fantastic!

I've dabbled with making board games in the past and I do have one question for you if I may:

How on Earth did you cut out your cards so precisely? I have a paper cutter but I don't own a corner rounding tool. Did you use such tools? The cuts look PERFECT! It's impressive, especially for a prototype.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 22, 2016, 10:41:42 PM
I think I could've done a better job with the cutouts, but then again I'm a perfectionist.^^

I used a paper cutter together with a ruler for the straight parts and small scissors for the round corners. For the final version I'm going to use one of these (http://www.dahle-office.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Innovation_und_Technik/Schneiden/Dahle-Schneidemaschine-4.jpg) though, they have one at my photography school and they get you the best results possible.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: action9000 on February 22, 2016, 10:47:07 PM
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I used a paper cutter together with a ruler for the straight parts and small scissors for the round corners.
I may have to try a ruler when using a paper cutter. Despite my best efforts I can't quite get my cuts perfect.  :bang  Thanks for the pointer!

You got those rounded corners with just scissors?  :o  That's actually quite mindblowing to me. I wouldn't even attempt it because it would end so badly.  :lol  How do you make sure every card is rounded the same so you can't tell them apart? Consistency and Scissors don't get along whenever I try to combine the two. :lol

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For the final version I'm going to use one of these though, they have one at my photography school and they get you the best results possible.
If you're interested, there are also game card printing services where you can upload images and get your cards printed on higher-quality materials than you may have available:

Here's one example (http://www.makeplayingcards.com/design/two-side-classic-poker.html)

For a final release you may want to do this unless you can get the high-quality materials yourself. If you have your own way of getting high-quality card material I'd be curious about that too! Printing onto and cutting anything other than paper hasn't been a thing I've had much success with outside of using a 3rd-party vendor like the one I linked.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 22, 2016, 10:57:34 PM
Wow, and they offer the printing for quite reasonable prices as well, didn't expect that.

Probably can't use this option, because I pretty much made up my own aspect ratio for them, lol. They won't fit onto any size they offer.
My plan was to just print them at home, backsides would be done by using one paper twice and a bit thicker paper, or bring the files to a local print service if I want the best quality possible.

Not sure if I will though, to play the game you don't really need some fancy paper n stuff, but we'll see. A good quality print would be nice though. :)littlefoot
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: action9000 on February 22, 2016, 11:02:58 PM
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Probably can't use this option, because I pretty much made up my own aspect ratio for them, lol. They won't fit onto any size they offer.
You can easily resize them if you don't mind skewing them a little bit or changing border thickness. Depends how different your aspect ratio is from standard and if your graphics can handle the skewing. I'll leave that to you. :)

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My plan was to just print them at home, backsides would be done by using one paper twice and a bit thicker paper, or bring the files to a local print service if I want the best quality possible.
That makes sense. For anything other than a final draft (aka anything can could still be changed due to ongoing playtesting) I'd just print it out at home. If the cuts aren't perfect I don't care because it's not a final draft. For my final draft I normally just get cards printed at a service like the one I linked and forget about the fiddly cutting work.  :p

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Not sure if I will though, to play the game you don't really need some fancy paper n stuff, but we'll see. A good quality print would be nice though.
It's true, you don't. It's just really awesome to play a homemade game that actually looks and feels like something you bought at a store.  :D

Good luck on your game! Have you playtested it much yet? Do you have any rebalancing or changes to make?
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 22, 2016, 11:10:57 PM
Well, you guys can print the game in any way you want of course. :)
(as long as you don't go and mass produce to sell this thing, because that really wouldn't be a good idea xD)

Only 3 cards are done so far, so I couldn't test it yet^^
I'm trying to make it balanced of course. There will be cards that are better than others (the movie one sharptooth for example will be pretty strong) but the goal (and pretty much only balance a game like this needs) is that every card can beat every card in at least one category. I've played these games a lot when I was younger.

Oh and btw:
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Dammit I wish I was still a mod because I'm online, right now, watching this guy spam the forum.

He'll be gone soon enough. xD
I always wonder why anyone who sells stuff thinks that doing this is a good idea.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: action9000 on February 22, 2016, 11:19:09 PM
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Only 3 cards are done so far, so I couldn't test it yet^^
I'm trying to make it balanced of course. There will be cards that are better than others (the movie one sharptooth for example will be pretty strong) but the goal (and pretty much only balance a game like this needs) is that every card can beat every card in at least one category. I've played these games a lot when I was younger.
Try not to worry about graphics too too much just yet if you can, at least in places where you may have to rework game mechanics if you find they don't work.

It sounds like your game is very close to an existing game if I'm not mistaken? If so, you don't have many game design hurdles in front of you. If I'm wrong though and this is a unique game with its own rules, just be warned that you may have to change things like quantities of cards and some fundamental concepts that may require altering graphics.

That's the kind of thing you can only find out by playtesting a game hundreds of times with different groups of people.

This is a link to the "Generally accepted" board game design methodology that might be worth a read:

Link (http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1018707/brief-crash-course-game-design-issues-processes-an)

Again, I'm not sure how original your game is. I'd just hate to see you produce a final version on nice, expensive paper with perfectly-tweaked graphics only to find the game has some minor problems that you could have ironed out with more playtesting..and now you're forced to redesign and reprint final drafts of cards.

[EDIT] fixed link
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 22, 2016, 11:36:33 PM
The graphic style is established already and won't change anymore, but yeah, there might be a chance that some of the data will be changed if I think I should. And I will make a test print and play that with a few people before I'll go for something better (if I ever will^^)

An existing game...well, kind of. Do you know top trumps?
If not, top trumps exists for pretty much everything, cars, planes, my little pony etc. I would not be surprised if there is a Land Before Time Top Trumps already (well, google brought me directly to this thread, so maybe not).

The system is very simple, you pick a category, name the number, and the opponent replies with his number in the same category. The higher number wins.
It's also luck based, because you never know what cards you get or what your opponent has.

To figure out the system that every card must be able to beat every card in at least one category, I just took a closer look to the values on a dinosaur top trumps game I own.

So yeah, this kind of game does exist, over and over for a huge number of franchises and quite a lot of stuff that can be measured somehow, so I'm not doing something 100% original here, I'm just adding the LBT spin to it. ;)

so yeah, I can pretty much assure you that this
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Again, I'm not sure how original your game is. I'd just hate to see you produce a final version on nice, expensive paper with perfectly-tweaked graphics only to find the game has some minor problems that you could have ironed out with more playtesting..and now you're forced to redesign and reprint final drafts of cards.
won't happen here, I'll make sure of that. ;)

And while we're not exactly getting off-topic here, maybe we should continue this with personal messages, so that everyone who looks for new updates doesn't have to scan all the posts to see if they include anything. :D
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: action9000 on February 22, 2016, 11:41:53 PM
Sounds like you got it properly under control, RockingScorpion!

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Do you know top trumps?
Not specifically but I've played trump-based card games before, including a board game called "Trumpet" which uses a similar mechanic. I think I get the idea. :)

Okay, I see the scope of your project now. I just didn't want to see you biting off more than you could chew because I've been there and done that (See this whole subforum (http://http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?board=16.0)).  :lol


BTW I'll leave it to you if you'd rather have this topic in Fanart or LBT Projects. I'm leaning more for LBT Projects since this is an LBT card game but it looks like it's primarily the art you wanted to convey to us so it's up to you. :)

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And while we're not exactly getting off-topic here, maybe we should continue this with personal messages, so that everyone who looks for new updates doesn't have to scan all the posts to see if they include anything. biggrin.gif
Fair enough! I didn't have anything else to say at this point so I'm done spamming for now!  :goodluck  Take care and good evening!
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on March 08, 2016, 11:03:01 PM
If anyone of you (started running around in circles screaming for help) wondered where this topic suddenly went, well here it is. :)littlefoot
action9000 gave me the idea to move it to this part of the forum, and after thinking about it, he has a point there. ;)
Also, thx for Malte for moving it.

Now, enough of that, here's the new card.


[align=center](http://orig07.deviantart.net/e39d/f/2016/068/f/9/spikecard_by_rockingscorpion-d9ujm19.png)[/align]

And while all the stuff about the cards and the cards itself of course will go in this topic, I'll post the different card artworks in my art topic in a slightly bigger resolution. ;)

Also, wow look at his expression, this would almost be good enough for a sarcasm/irony emote. :D

That's it for now. I do wanna make the Petrie card this week, but I'm not sure yet. He'll be the first card that won't have the ground as a habitat, so there is some stuff that has to be done aside from the card image only. But we'll see.

Until then,
RS
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: bestariana1girl on March 09, 2016, 01:23:44 PM
Quote from: RockingScorpion,Mar 8 2016 on  09:03 PM
If anyone of you (started running around in circles screaming for help) wondered where this topic suddenly went, well here it is. :)littlefoot
action9000 gave me the idea to move it to this part of the forum, and after thinking about it, he has a point there. ;)
Also, thx for Malte for moving it.

Now, enough of that, here's the new card.


[align=center](http://orig07.deviantart.net/e39d/f/2016/068/f/9/spikecard_by_rockingscorpion-d9ujm19.png)[/align]

And while all the stuff about the cards and the cards itself of course will go in this topic, I'll post the different card artworks in my art topic in a slightly bigger resolution. ;)

Also, wow look at his expression, this would almost be good enough for a sarcasm/irony emote. :D

That's it for now. I do wanna make the Petrie card this week, but I'm not sure yet. He'll be the first card that won't have the ground as a habitat, so there is some stuff that has to be done aside from the card image only. But we'll see.

Until then,
RS
I can't draw a stick figure, lol very good job RockingScorpion! I love your work!
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on March 11, 2016, 05:34:55 AM
Impressive as always, my friend ;)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: DarkWolf91 on March 12, 2016, 01:19:35 PM
Love that Spike! He's adorable- and his expression is reminiscent of the first film   ^^spike
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: The Lone Dragon on March 12, 2016, 08:42:23 PM
This is really Great Work RS :)littlefoot Keep it up, can't wait to see the next card.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on March 19, 2016, 10:10:31 PM
Thanks for all those comments, I'm really baffled by the support this project is getting :)littlefoot you guys are awesome.

And yeah, Darkwolf, that Spike is based on the first movie ;) though in the original version his eyes are closed.

Next one!

[align=center](http://orig05.deviantart.net/5712/f/2016/079/c/c/petriecard_by_rockingscorpion-d9vuldb.png)[/align]

No, the blue color doesn't indicate that he's drunk (Don't drink and fly!) but that his habitat is the sky. The habitat symbol also changed from land to sky.
Now the only things that aren't covered yet are cards for the habitat water and the omnivore/carnivore symbols. Those will come in time. ;)

Now, the whole gang is completed, time to move on to the secondary characters.
Hope you like this one and until next time.
The standalone image of Petrie will be posted in my fanart topic as usual.

RS

Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on March 20, 2016, 11:46:53 AM
beautiful, as always. :D
(and shiny XD)

I would like to see full main characters cast of original movie first.
Mama Longneck and Sharptooth. I'm waiting for you. (my 2nd and 3rd favorite characters of all)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on April 01, 2016, 10:03:59 AM
@Snik: They will come at some point, but I'm working alongside the list I posted in the starting post of this topic. ;)

Now, to the next card...this is a Top Trumps Game, so this just has to be included, so here it is...

[align=center](http://orig14.deviantart.net/0cfe/f/2016/092/7/d/nnopennope_by_rockingscorpion-d9xev5k.png)[/align]

...this is so incredible obvios that I'm just going to say it:
Happy April Fools Day and don't get pranked too much, everybody. :D
Actual cards will come this week again as well.

Now I have to get rid of some nasty malware or adware that snuck into my firefox yesterday apparently...that one isn't a joke, I'm afraid. Ugh.^^
Edit: gone. That was easy, just had to delete some unused extensions, that stuff was hidden somewhere in those apparently.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on April 01, 2016, 03:49:27 PM
still debating whether it's hillarious or just stupid  :p
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: vonboy on April 01, 2016, 03:50:54 PM
Shouldn't just been Trump's hair. :p
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on April 01, 2016, 04:48:18 PM
Just
bravo!

*applauses*
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: DarkWolf91 on April 01, 2016, 06:16:46 PM
Somehow, deep in my subconscious mind, I knew this was going to happen :lol
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: rhombus on April 01, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
:lol Somehow I think if Donald Trump were a Magic the Gathering card he would be classified as a wall card.  :p He probably would think of that as a compliment.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on April 01, 2016, 06:37:01 PM
How about both, Ducky123? :D

vonboy: nah...but his hair on a LBT character would've been something else. xD

Snik: Thanks...I guess. xxD

DarkWolf: Am I that predictable or do you just have the general ability to predict the future? In any case, I probably have to step up my game next time (although saying I got a Cease & Desist the last time was a pretty big one already since some people actually believed it. :D )

Rhombus: (you ninja, writing a comment as I'm responding to comments)
Well, according to the system I use for my cards, his diet is money and his habitat is wall. Good enough. :D

In general, I gotta say that "Make the valley great again" was an idea I had in the last second of making the card. It just fits this too well, originally I wanted to put a link in this area, either loser.com (http://loser.com) or trumpdonald.org/ (http://trumpdonald.org/). :D
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: DarkWolf91 on April 01, 2016, 09:48:33 PM
Haha, maybe a bit of both? All I know is that the moment I saw it, it just felt predestined. Written in the stars, perhaps  :lol  :p
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on April 01, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
If stuff like that is written in the stars, then hoo boy, the stars have a very special kind of humor. :D

Well...April 1st is over (it is at least in my country), so when I say that another card will come this week, it's no joke. :D
Which one? Hmmm...if you read what I wrote recently, you might be able to figure it out. You might also just don't wanna know and be surprised. If you can't get behind it and don't like any surprises: spoiler (http://orig05.deviantart.net/9084/f/2016/092/2/8/rubyvector_by_rockingscorpion-d9xgorl.png) (shhhh ;) )

The finished thing should be done on sunday. I hope.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on April 03, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
So, onward to the new card. This one really took a while and a lot of thoughts went into this and also in the cards that still have to be made. A lot of stuff was finally established, and Malte279 came up with an excellent idea. I won't say what it is, but let me tell you it is just as this guy says. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-T13m4XKP4)  :)littlefoot
But you all will hear about that soon enough - for now let's welcome Ruby to the finished cards:

[align=center](http://orig00.deviantart.net/41cd/f/2016/094/f/c/rubycard2_by_rockingscorpion-d9xr0zb.png)[/align]

Ruby is an omnivore, so she comes with a new symbol: Eggshell combined with treestar (prehistoric Kinder Egg, anyone? :D ).
The egg also appears alongside the treestars in the values space on the card. The actual symbol was one of Malte's ideas as well, what I had it mind for the omnivores was a treestar together with a bone. (http://orig03.deviantart.net/2d24/f/2016/094/5/a/rubycard_by_rockingscorpion-d9xquqf.png)
I for one think the egg+treestar symbol is the better choice in that matter, so that's going to be the symbol I will use from now on.

What these symbols actually do in the gameplay...well. You'll know soon enough. :D

Also I wanna thank everyone that my april fool's joke was so well received. Next year's going to be quite something as well, I'm pretty sure of that already. :D

Until the next card, and for the standalone image of Ruby, see my art topic as usual. :)

RS
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: DarkWolf91 on April 04, 2016, 12:15:03 AM
Ssshhh, kinder eggs are illegal contraband in the U.S.  :p
... And I accidentally sent one of my friends back with one once :lol

Ruby looks great! I am quite eager to hear what this 'new idea' is :smile
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: The Lone Dragon on April 04, 2016, 05:07:30 AM
This is brilliant! :)littlefoot Ruby looks great in this shot. Can't wait to see the next card. :yes
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on April 04, 2016, 07:10:29 AM
look who is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO shiny!
(do not allow Ducky to get close to her!)
 :DD

awesome!
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on May 01, 2016, 04:45:01 PM
DarkWolf: Don't worry, Kinder Eggs are legal in the great valley. After all, if it doesn't exist yet, it can't be forbidden. :D

And thanks for all the comments. :)

Now...more stuff! :)littlefoot

[align=center]
The first carnivore
(http://orig11.deviantart.net/0185/f/2016/122/8/7/chompercard_by_rockingscorpion-da11xnd.png)[/align]

[align=center]
The first villain
(http://orig01.deviantart.net/04ca/f/2016/122/2/c/sharptoothcard_by_rockingscorpion-da11yvj.png)[/align]

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The first Full-Art
(http://orig11.deviantart.net/a613/f/2016/122/d/6/lfootmomcard_by_rockingscorpion-da11yux.png)[/align]

About that last card: Trying to squeeze that character in a place that's so small, well...I tried, but after a while went for something new for the cards. This might be what I do for the characters that just won't fit into that small space without too many details getting lost. It's also not 100% final yet, I might still make some changes to the appearance. I'm still posting the result I've got so far to see how it is received. :)

So yeah, comments and feedback is always appreciated, and for the standalone pictures you can check my art topic if you want (still have to make that post though)

RS :)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on May 01, 2016, 05:48:49 PM
Speechless! Awesome work!

What character will be next?

(only thing: idk why, but for me Sharptooth there looks like he is... confused? Oo Lol, thee sharpteeth's facial emotions.  Maybe because he hasn't dropping spit this time. :p nevermind)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: The Lone Dragon on May 01, 2016, 08:27:15 PM
Now this is just brilliant art. Chomper looks really innocent here, showing that he is not a ruthless minded Sharptooth but The friendly Sharptooth we all know. Now Sharptooth looks awesome his facial expression was surprising I expected him to look a lot more menacing but even then it is still an awesome bit of work and the icing on the cake being Littlefoot's mother, she looks wonderful in this albeit a bit big but she's a Longneck for crying out loud she is supposed to be big.

Overall a brilliant piece of work, looking forward to seeing your future art and cards.  ^^spike
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: DarkWolf91 on May 01, 2016, 09:22:16 PM
They're all awesome! I'm a big fan of full-art cards, and I think littlefoot's mother looks wonderful :yes
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on May 02, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
Great works again  ^^spike
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Kor on May 02, 2016, 10:02:50 PM
very good work, very well done indeed.  :)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on June 04, 2016, 03:56:06 PM
Thanks for all the comments, guys, the amount of support this project has gotten so far is amazing. :)

I'm still getting the full art card design down (currently looks like this (http://orig07.deviantart.net/340a/f/2016/124/b/6/lbttoptrumpsvorlagefullart_by_rockingscorpion-da19khl.png)) but another card was just finished.

[align=center](http://orig13.deviantart.net/a711/f/2016/156/3/1/alicarddone_by_rockingscorpion-da53akj.png)[/align]

Also, this is the workfile for all of the cards I made so far: (http://orig05.deviantart.net/1b77/f/2016/156/a/e/size_by_rockingscorpion-da53al5.png)
Seriously the lag is getting real here. I gotta split things up from now on because my computer would just not be able to handle 28 card designs crammed in one single file. xD

Earlier today I also found the very first design idea I made for this project. Click here (http://orig05.deviantart.net/65de/f/2016/038/b/5/lbttoptrumpsvorlagewebtest_by_rockingscorpion-d9qvqvf.jpg) if you wanna see that.
This project has really evolved since then. My skills also get better which every single card and I gotta say, that's pretty motivating. I wonder where we'll be when the last card is done.

Next one will probably the first double character card, featuring Littlefoots Grandparents. No idea when it'll be done though.

That's it for now then, comments and feedback is always appreciated, and for the standalone pictures you can check my art topic if you want.

RS :)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: retrorobby on June 04, 2016, 05:32:59 PM
Looks like a fun card game. You have my full support.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on June 05, 2016, 04:08:42 AM
Your skills are great.

Can't wait for next card!
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on January 16, 2017, 06:36:48 PM
Hoo boy, it has been a while, hasn't it? xD

But after months of silence, I finished another card:

(http://orig01.deviantart.net/f8a1/f/2017/016/1/c/pteranocard_by_rockingscorpion-davoag3.png)

Updates might come (somewhat) regularly again now. :)littlefoot
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on January 16, 2017, 06:56:41 PM
That's a fantastic job you did making this card. The details are amazing and the colors are amazing.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Coyote_A on January 16, 2017, 07:21:20 PM
How did this thread elude me for so long? Those cards of yours are gorgeous, Rocks! :D
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on January 16, 2017, 07:41:26 PM
YAY!  :lol:

Couldn't really watch the stream due to technical issues on my end (or so I'd assume) but I must say the result is fantastic as always! :wow I'm so happy to see you continue this project, yes I am  ^^spike
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on January 16, 2017, 07:49:40 PM
You need to try and keep this topic active
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Kor on January 16, 2017, 09:12:08 PM
Very nice and well done card.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on January 16, 2017, 10:30:45 PM
Can't wait to see the new one
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on January 21, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
Another card just got finished. :)littlefoot

(http://orig02.deviantart.net/1d37/f/2017/021/f/c/toppscard_by_rockingscorpion-daw8kzi.png)

Now, which will be the next character...?
No idea. :D
We'll see.

The process was again streamed on twitch for those who are interested:https://www.twitch.tv/derpyrocks91 (https://www.twitch.tv/derpyrocks91)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on January 21, 2017, 08:45:26 PM
The card looks awesome as usual you did a fantastic job making it,
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Kor on January 22, 2017, 12:15:02 PM
Great job indeed.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on January 22, 2017, 02:29:31 PM
Keep them coming we love seeing them
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on January 31, 2017, 08:45:34 PM
Alrighty, here are the next two. Both are a kind of card this set hasn't seen yet. Mo is the first underwater character and Ozzy/Strut is the first dual card. Hope you like them. :)

(http://orig14.deviantart.net/903d/f/2017/031/0/0/mocard_by_rockingscorpion-daxff04.png)(http://orig15.deviantart.net/4189/f/2017/031/9/d/ozzystrutcard_by_rockingscorpion-daxfp5g.png)

Next one will be Shorty. I might start to work on the sketch tonight already.

Edit: Noticed an error in the Ozzy/Strut card. It's fixed now.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Kor on January 31, 2017, 09:03:20 PM
Very well done.  You have skill at this.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on January 31, 2017, 09:21:10 PM
Very awesome great  job
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on February 01, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
Really can't wait to play that game once it's completed :lol
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 01, 2017, 09:55:43 PM
I'm Sure it's going to be very fun and awesome
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 04, 2017, 08:42:34 PM
Next two cards finished, and here they are.  :)littlefoot

(http://orig03.deviantart.net/9d1a/f/2017/035/a/b/shortycard_by_rockingscorpion-daxw9we.png)(http://orig13.deviantart.net/710b/f/2017/035/0/3/broncard_by_rockingscorpion-daxw9wr.png)

Next one will be another duo card. You will see which one when it's done. :p

The making of was streamed on twitch yada yada. I linked the stream on this page in the thread already so I'm not going to do it again, don't wanna overdo it. It's somewhere around here though.^^

See you next time with the mysterious new duo card.

Ps: Don't (http://orig09.deviantart.net/2204/f/2017/034/8/c/beautiful_by_rockingscorpion-daxrycv.png) ask. (http://orig00.deviantart.net/c4df/f/2017/034/0/d/beautiful2_by_rockingscorpion-daxrycj.png)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 04, 2017, 09:50:06 PM
Shorty looks awesome great job on it
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on February 05, 2017, 06:03:33 AM
I think I'm guilty that the "don't ask" links even exist  :p

Keep up the good work man and I can tell Bron is gonna be quite a strong card when I compare the values to those of Shorty :lol:
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 05, 2017, 10:13:31 AM
I love how you drew bron the details are incredible
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 06, 2017, 11:45:41 PM
You might be guilty about the "don't ask" links, Ducky, but what about this one (http://orig06.deviantart.net/c09c/f/2017/037/7/3/orangecera_by_rockingscorpion-day5x90.png)? :p
(yes these fonts are comic sans and papyrus please don't kill me xD)

On a more serious note, here's another duo card:

(http://orig11.deviantart.net/f209/f/2017/037/d/1/rinkussierra_by_rockingscorpion-day5x8s.png)

So, who will come next? I have no idea, and I might also take a break from the streams for a bit, and if I do stream, it might be just some game or not related to this game. I was streaming everyday for five days in a row, so yeah...we'll see.

For anyone who wants to have a look at the cards being worked on, the recordings of the last streams are here (https://www.twitch.tv/derpyrocks91/videos/all).

Now I really need to get some sleep lol. Wanted to keep this short as well because of that, but eh stuff happens. xD
Goodnight.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 07, 2017, 03:44:37 AM
Very nice man the style and detail's is very good nice work
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on February 07, 2017, 11:29:54 AM
so much new cards, yay! ^^

Shorty looks too cute for his temper though. XD

Can't wait for next masterpieces!



*checks orange link*

what the...

(Cera would murder you while you sleep...)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 07, 2017, 12:20:57 PM
I can't either these rock
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Kor on February 07, 2017, 09:25:01 PM
Yet more great work you have done.  Thanks for sharing that here.  You are very skilled and creative.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on February 07, 2017, 11:28:19 PM
Yes, blame me for the Orange Cera :lol: Though you can't blame RockingScorpion for being inspired by stuff I write, can you?  :angel

Either way, awesome work again, mate :DD
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 08, 2017, 04:12:19 AM
Yeah your next one is gonna be fantastic
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sovereign on February 08, 2017, 07:06:10 AM
These cards are indeed very impressive! The pictures themselves are very well made as are the quotes you've used to describe the characters. I understand that you must try to balance the cards somehow but still it's pretty odd that Shorty and Bron have the same leader ability.  :p In any case, you did a good job on these cards!  :)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 08, 2017, 08:02:35 AM
So far every card I loved and I enjoy seeing your new ones when they're posted keep them coming
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 11, 2017, 03:19:04 PM
Thanks for all these comments, once again. :D

@Sovereign: Well, Shorty managed to survive and also lead a bunch of smaller longnecks in the mysterious beyond, so...
But yeah, sometimes the values in the game might not make too much sense, but a good balance is more important that absolute accuracy. I try to make it as good as I can though.
Also, once every card is finished, I will check them all and adjust the values if I have to. I already do that with every new card, but still, just to make sure it really does work.

Also, there's something I gotta say (wanted to mention it earlier but I kept forgetting xD):

There are still two more characters needed for this set, and you guys can give me some suggestions. :)
(Just don't be disappointed if I don't pick yours when I get more than two.)

To avoid suggestions that already exist, here's the full list of characters so far (already finished cards have a ✓ behind them).

Littlefoot ✓
Ducky ✓
Cera ✓
Spike ✓
Petrie ✓
Ruby ✓
Chomper ✓
Sharptooth (original movie) ✓
Littlefoot's Mother ✓
Littlefoots Grandparents (on one card together)
Ali ✓
Topsy ✓
Bron ✓
Shorty ✓
Pterano ✓
Mo ✓
Redclaw
Screech/Thud (on one card together)
Doc ✓
Dil/Ichy (one card)
Ozzy/Strut (one card) ✓
Ruby's Parents (one card)
Rinkus/Sierra (one card) ✓
Chomper's Parents (one card)
Rainbowfaces
Yellowbellies

I will also update the character list in the starting post with the ticks so you guys can see what's still missing.

So yeah, that was enough blabbering, keep the suggestions coming. :)
And here's the last card I finished:

(http://orig10.deviantart.net/802 b/f/2017/042/b/d/doccard_by_rockingscorpion-dayomdc.png)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 11, 2017, 05:31:55 PM
You're very welcome and Doc looks awesome I love the card design a lot. You did a very good job on this one.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: DarkWolf91 on February 12, 2017, 12:12:57 AM
Doc's looking great!

As for suggestions, I wouldn't mind seeing Guido... or a hoard of Tinysauruses :lol
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 12, 2017, 08:10:29 AM
Same those are really great requests you made.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Kor on February 12, 2017, 10:17:39 AM
Doc is very well done, as are the previous Top Trumps cards.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 12, 2017, 10:43:09 AM
You could make Hyp and Mutt
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Sneak on February 13, 2017, 02:53:04 AM
aweome! ^^

btw, I think Sharpteeth from LBT5 and LBT9 deserved their cards.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 13, 2017, 04:43:31 AM
Yeah they do if you do make them there's no rush
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on February 13, 2017, 05:11:32 AM
You're asking for two but I offer you up to 6. I'm still in favor of the set having a total of 32 cards like most Top Trumps do.
...and I think that's about every named character from the movie I can remember right now but now you have a list to choose from. Especially Guido, Thicknose and the Bullies are must-have's imo :p
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Post by: ADFan185 on February 13, 2017, 05:46:07 AM
Great choices you picked hopefully he'll make them
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Post by: Sneak on February 14, 2017, 08:37:39 AM
bad there's only 32 cards and you can't include all characters... :(
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 14, 2017, 10:22:12 AM
Maybe he can make two different decks of cards
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on February 24, 2017, 11:35:38 PM
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I made my mind up about those, the two characters joining this set will be....

*drumroll please*

Guido and Etta. :)littlefoot

As for 32 cards instead of 28....maybe someday. First I will finish 28, then we'll see.
Heck, I could even make more than that, the series offers enough characters. However, the goal is that you can play the game with 2 or 4 people at the same time, so the total number of cards will have to fit that as well.

But no promises about more cards. It might happen or not. I kinda wanna start a new project after this one as well.

Aaaanyway, enough blabbering, here's the next one:

(http://orig08.deviantart.net/5b27/f/2017/055/e/4/rainbowfacescard_by_rockingscorpion-db09shn.png)

It would also be cool to see some of you showing up to the streams (https://www.twitch.tv/derpyrocks91). Dunno if any of you have experience with twitch streams but there's a chat going on during those as well (with some custom land before time emotes if you install the ffz browser extension xD). It's always nicer if the chat is somewhat lively when I'm doing those.

Until next time then. :)
RS

edit: oh didn't change my avatar here yet...aaaand done xD
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 25, 2017, 02:52:43 AM
An amazing job on this card it's excellent nice job.
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Post by: Sneak on February 25, 2017, 05:00:07 AM
great!

unless I thought you would put UFO or blazing star instead Two trees and a Hill symbol...
XD
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Post by: Sovereign on February 25, 2017, 05:30:34 AM
Intelligence 100, pretty OP. :lol Well, I guess it's more than justified. This card looks great as have your other cards, good job on them. Your last two picks are pretty cool and I'm looking forward to seeing them, as well as this next project you mentioned. Also, I didn't know that you stream on Twitch. I just might tune in some time.  :)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on February 25, 2017, 05:39:10 AM
The streams are really cool, I can recommend it (though I missed the recent few) :p
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 25, 2017, 06:47:48 AM
The details are very good and awesome
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Post by: The Lone Dragon on February 25, 2017, 05:47:40 PM
Two thumbs up RS, they both look awesome I recall the stream for this and am impressed by the detail, they make quite a pair, can't wait to see the next.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on February 25, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Looking forward to seeing your next card.
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: RockingScorpion on March 31, 2017, 10:49:41 PM
(http://orig12.deviantart.net/2f8c/f/2017/090/3/5/check_the_date_by_rockingscorpion-db47kzq.png)

I have a bit of bad news here. Recently I started to learn how to draw humans (as you can kinda see by the picture above which seems a bit cynical to use for this purpose but I thought, why not use it, it kinda fits.^^)
But yeah, I started to watch an anime called Dragon Maid a few weeks ago and it sparked a ton of inspiration, to an amount I barely ever experienced before. I have like 10 ideas written down right now and some of them are really complicated/detailed. And I keep getting more and more, like for example yesterday I woke up at 4 am with a new idea in my head that I had to create right away.^^

The thing is, with this amount of inspiration and also with all the new experiences I'm making because of it, I really don't feel like going back to this project. Like, at all. Everytime I say to myself that I gotta also work on these cards again sometime soon, it always feels like I really have to force myself to do so. And that's not the kind of feeling I wanna have when working on something like this. That's also why no new updates appeared for weeks in a row.^^

Look, I'll just get over with it and say it now. I pretty much stopped working on this project and it is not going to be finished - by me at least.

If someone wants to take over, I'll gladly give out the templates for the different cards along with all the details required so that someone can continue the project instead of me.

I'm sorry it had to come to this but sometimes things just happen and you move on to something else. But I'm pretty confident that someone will be willing to continue this and it is going to be finished someday.

I really don't know what else I could possible add now, but I hope you guys won't be too disappointed now. And I will definitely continue to post my future creations on this site, even though they might not be LBT related anymore.

See Ya, I'll be around, project or not. :)

RS

(Yes this was supposed to be an April Fool's day joke. Still not going to explain the hidden message in this post in case someone wants to find it out by themselves.)
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: Ducky123 on April 02, 2017, 07:57:24 AM
This was a tad too obvious to be believable :p
Title: Gang Of Five - Top Trumps
Post by: ADFan185 on April 02, 2017, 11:04:39 AM
You did a great job on it you put effort into this good job.