The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => 1988 Theatrical Release => Topic started by: Weather_lord_7 on August 20, 2007, 04:50:28 PM
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I know, stupid poll. But I'm just curious about your opinions. :)
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By heart-wrenching, do you mean gross out or extremely saddening?
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The whole movie was terribly emotional.
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I can only choose one, but heres my opinion...I honestly think that the most heart-wrentching moment in the movie would have to the scene where Littlefoot believes his shadow is his mother...that's just wrong on sooo many levels, but it is understandable as to how it happened (I once walked into a glass patio door while following my shadow... :lol: man that hurt! :lol )
And the score to the moive was pretty emotional as well especially towards the end of the movie...
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By heart-wrenching, do you mean gross out or extremely saddening?
Saddening, of course! :P:
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What a poll... there's just so many things out the original that get to you. I can't pick, and I won't pick.
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What a poll... there's just so many things out the original that get to you. I can't pick, and I won't pick.
Then don't. :p
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I can see we're goimg nowhere with this topic. Admin, please delete/remove it.
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...I'm sorry if I caused this. :(
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well, personally, I think that it's an okay poll. I just think that there should be more choices. But, there's a 15 choice limit so it's a little hard to choose.
I personally found every moment mentioned to be heart wrenching except for Petire's death. I knew that he survived. I dunno how. :unsure:
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Really the score is what does it. Even through all the moments mentioned, the musical background is what conveys the mood and emotion expressed on screen.
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Actually. don't delete it. We could have some healthy discussion here. :)
...I'm sorry if I caused this.:(
Aww, don't be. :)
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*wipes brow*
Yes, I was thinking that there could be some healthy discussion here. Deleting it seemed a bit premature. There were a lot of sad moments here, and not the least of which could be the music score. I just can't choose.
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The shadow on the wall. That blew me away when I saw it for the first time, years ago.
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Well i voted for the whole movie, but other than that, i would have to say that it would be the score as well. As Petrie stated the music conveys the mood that is on-screen. If there was the wrong choice of music or no music at all, the scene wouldn't be as "heart-wrenching".
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On topic: I have always been very hesitant about superlatives and I'm afraid this is another case where I cannot name a "one and only most heart-wrenching moment". But you certainly did a good job in picking the potential scenes :)
Off topic:
I personally found every moment mentioned to be heart wrenching except for Petire's death. I knew that he survived. I dunno how.
According to one audio play of the land before time which I have Petrie managed to flap to the rocky wall and then climb up. From his looks in the movie it seems more likely that Sharptooth's bite slackened after Petrie was pulled bellow the water surface (Sharptooth probably lost conscience or simply died quickly). So Petrie could wrench free and then climb up the wall (flying was still a new experience for him and was probably difficult with soaked wings).
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Sharptooth probably lost conscience or simply died quickly
Or opened his mouth in surprise! :lol:
I just knew that Petrie couldn't be dead. I guess it was because there was no logical reason to kill him.
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Maybe Bluth was trying to tribute Billy Joel and "only the good die young". :lol:
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Maybe Bluth was trying to tribute Billy Joel and "only the good die young". :lol:
:cry There were many scenes, which were sad, I can¥t only choose one scene.
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The score can really set the mood for any movie in my opinon. It can take a movie in different direction just by the pace or the instruments used. I think the score made the movie all the more sadder with the use of the...I think it was the oboe? (please feel free to correct me! :yes)
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The death of Little Foot's mom and his subsequent time of mourning for her. The scene where he was crying in her footprint and the scene where he thought his shadow on the cliff face was she. Very moving.
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I just have to vote for the whole movie. The entire thing was moving for me.
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I voted on the montage of Littlefoot's adventures with his friends. That always makes me sad, especially the scene where Cera joins the group and Littlefoot snuggles her :^.^:. That part always gets me. Sorry, but I'm totally head-over-heels about how those two became best friends, even all these years later :yes.
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For me, I was forced to pick one, but if I could choose, it would be 2, 3, 5, 8, 9, and 10. And no less than all of that... No less, at all... It all makes me cry, everytime...
EDIT: And I can agree with Cancerian Tiger here; that sleep scene was so... Sweet...! :cry2
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The scene when Cera insults Littlefoot's mother. Yes, the scenes listed were plenty heart-wrenching, but they didn't have the, 'zing', so to speak, when you saw the rage Cera's hurtful words envoked in Littlefoot. One part of you knows that Littlefoot is better than that while the other half is egging him on to rip her head off. Very emotional.
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One scene not listed is the one where Cera goes off by herself and cries :cry. That really hurts, 'cuz she's normally tough as nails. I think it is more touching to see a tough character cry than a sensitive one :yes :cry2.
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That was a touching scene; yet, I have always interpreted it as crying out of shame, because of pride. I gathered this idea because of what the narrator said, "Cera was still too proud to admit that, she'd gone the wrong way." However, it is one of the harder scenes to watch, though, for me personally, not among the hardest.
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One of the land before time books which I have also suggests more sensitive motives in this scene. It is only a German book (so no chance that someone as important as DonBluth had to check-read it (not that I think that he would be the one to check-read English publications either), but this is the literal translation of what it says:
Only in a save distance Cera slowed down and sadly she let herself drop onto a stone. She heard Littlefoot's calls and broke into tears. Never, she though, would she be able to admit that she had gone the wrong way. She had insulted Littlefoot's mother and scorned his friendship. How could she ever stand before his eyes again?
The passage suggests a mixture of shame (for having gone the wrong way) and more sensitive motives and it sounds quite plausible to me. The humiliation of being fooled by the "tar monster" may have been of surprisingly little importance.
I wonder what Cera's reaction would have been had Littlefoot not been "part" of that "tar monster". We'll never know for certain.
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I really didn't cry during the movie at all when I watched it. I still don't :p
However, that one scene with Little Foot running towards his shadow and thinking that it was his mother, that was pretty heart wrenching :cry
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I'd have to say several. When Littlefoot's mom died, as he's morning over her, when he thought his shadow was her and realized it was not. In 4 when Ducky seems dead (though I guessed they'd not kill off a main character) and the scene is such that it makes Spike speak for the first time.
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Yeah, those are all good things... Wow, that was really interesting, Malte.
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I had vote for the whole Movie. I mean all of the scenes have something special but all together make this a awesome masterpiece!
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Oh, I couldn't agree more...
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Yeah, those are all good things... Wow, that was really interesting, Malte.
That was interesting :yes. It sheds a different light on Cera's reasoning for shunning herself from her friends like that.
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Yeah, those are all good things... Wow, that was really interesting, Malte.
That was interesting :yes. It sheds a different light on Cera's reasoning for shunning herself from her friends like that.
It does indeed. A very interesting passage and gives new light to Cera.
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The picture presented in "The land before time - The illustrated story" is a different one. This is what it says (no translation but English original this time):
"I knew it was you all along!" she said.
Littefoot grinned at her.
"You did?" said Ducky. "But you were screaming so loud."
"I was only acting," Cera shot back. "I wanted those scaly-skins to come come into the cave so I could attack them!"
"Nope, nope, nope," Ducky said shaking her head.
"Oh get out of my way!" Cera yelled. But as she tried to stalk out of the cave, she stuck to the tar monster.
"We really together now!" said Ducky, giggling.
"Yeah, Cera," said Littlefoot. "Now we have to stick together."
And the whole group loughed.
That made Cera madder than ever. Pulling herself free, she cried out, "Oh, shut up. I hate all of you! I don't ever want to see any of you again, ever!"
With that, she stomped out of the cave into the darkness. As she marched away her eyes filled with tears. She really didn't mean what she had said. It was just that her pride had been hurt. She looked around, half expecting them to come after her. But they didn't, and her heart sank a little.
A heavy rain started to fall, washing the tar off Littlefoot and the others. "Let her go," he said. "If she doesn't want to come back, there's nothing we can do." The others sadly had to agree.
Cera does not come across as sad in this text and the offense of Littlefoot's mother doesn't seem to play a role. What struck me as particularly unlikely about this passage is the way Littlefoot let's Cera walk off, as this book tells the version of LBT in which Littlefoot found the Great Valley BEFORE saving Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike. So in this version of the story he not only thought that Cera might go wrong after leaving them but was dead sure that she would because he had already seen the Great Valley but not mentioned it to Cera.
Anyway, I guess I'm getting too much off topic here.
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Hmm, not TOO far off-topic, as it does enlighten us more... ...I don't think I like that version of the story much, though, but, like I said, we're more enlightened because of it.
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In 4 when Ducky seems dead (though I guessed they'd not kill off a main character) and the scene is such that it makes Spike speak for the first time.
Yeah, that nearly tore me to pieces until I saw she was okay. Poor thing. One can't help but feel sorry for the way life's treated Ducky, and yet she's so sweet and loving :^.^: :yes.
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I cant pick one just yet. There were a few on the poll list that I found to be heart-wrenching. I know I do cry when his mother dies and he thinks his shadow is her's...I get welled up at the end montage of his life as well...
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Only in a save distance Cera slowed down and sadly she let herself drop onto a stone. She heard Littlefoot's calls and broke into tears. Never, she though, would she be able to admit that she had gone the wrong way. She had insulted Littlefoot's mother and scorned his friendship. How could she ever stand before his eyes again?
Since it's only in German, could ya please tell us how they make up later, or is it the same as the movie?
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It is the same as in the movie (no mention of Littlefoot's mother during the reconciliation). I am currently not at the place where I have my LBT stuff, so I cannot quote the passage literally, but it is the story as we know it from the movie (also with regard to Littlefoot finding the Great Valley only AFTER the fight with the sharptooth).
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i whole film made me cry and it an't easy to make me cry
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I just saw this today again...and....I feel so...refreshed...yet so sad. So the whole thing was frigging emotional...
I want to see NIMH and American Tail now...
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Listening to the score of this movie makes me sad. It was so wonderfully composed, a masterpiece.
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Listening to the score of this movie makes me sad. It was so wonderfully composed, a masterpiece.
Heh, that's James Horner for ya. Just like with Titanic, he always knows how to get to us. One thing I find funny about the score, is the entire sounctrack is basically based around about 6 diferent melodies, all played together in different ways.
AS for me, things have changed. When I first watched this again (a few months ago), I would have said the Death scene. But since then, I find it less and less saddening..at least, I don't burst into tears as I watch it. Now, that honour is reserved for the ending. Just the combination of the visuals, the flashback, the score. It's all brilliant. It's a classic case of earning your happy ending, after having watched Littlefoot going through so much crap in such a bleak landscape.
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Listening to the score of this movie makes me sad. It was so wonderfully composed, a masterpiece.
Heh, that's James Horner for ya. Just like with Titanic, he always knows how to get to us. One thing I find funny about the score, is the entire sounctrack is basically based around about 6 diferent melodies, all played together in different ways.
AS for me, things have changed. When I first watched this again (a few months ago), I would have said the Death scene. But since then, I find it less and less saddening..at least, I don't burst into tears as I watch it. Now, that honour is reserved for the ending. Just the combination of the visuals, the flashback, the score. It's all brilliant. It's a classic case of earning your happy ending, after having watched Littlefoot going through so much crap in such a bleak landscape.
The ending always does get me. More then any scenes of the rest of the film. That feeling that wells up inside me at seeing the darkness fade away and then the music plays and Littlefoot says "The Great Valley." I just lose it. It's just such an overwhelmingly happy ending. :')
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The whole movie is just so emotional... Almost made me cry.
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the ending where they flashed back and when Diana Ross's song came on made me cry a lot.
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the most heartwrenching moment should have been the scene of the death of littlefoot's mom, 'sniffle'
But the one petrie85 mentioned was 'good' heartwrenching to me. y'know llooking back at the good moments of the adventure, the bad moments, and the tense moments. :p
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the most heartwrenching moment should have been the scene of the death of littlefoot's mom, 'sniffle'
But the one petrie85 mentioned was 'good' heartwrenching to me. y'know llooking back at the good moments of the adventure, the bad moments, and the tense moments. :p
Yeah. In Bluth's films, there are basically 2 types of tearjerker moments: Depressing downers, and crowning moments of heartwarming (CMOH). I actually find that CMOHs are more tearjerking to me than Downers. They just hit home harder.
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Yeah Bluth make's a lot of Dark Animated Drama's. Witch is good. Kids need that in there life's. And yeah If We Hold On Together is a very sad song.
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You can not just have one of the 'most heart wrenching moments' as a choice. Personally for me the 'heart wrenching moments' are when Littlefoot loses his mother; which is fairly obvious and when he sees her shadow and thinks that she's still alive. Although really the whole movie is quite sad and perhaps then gives the usual messages of hope and what not, that are so sentimental that it gets across to people.
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I don't pick. I say the part where he thought his shaddow was his mother and the scene where he was depressed and someone tried to offer him a cherry. mother dying and him crying over it, and the end credits.
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I thought the whole movie was pretty sad. But the death of his mom was very sad still.
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A heavy rain started to fall, washing the tar off Littlefoot and the others.
Whatzup w/ that...I thought they were in a cave...plus it wasn't raining
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According to one audio play of the land before time which I have Petrie managed to flap to the rocky wall and then climb up. From his looks in the movie it seems more likely that Sharptooth's bite slackened after Petrie was pulled bellow the water surface (Sharptooth probably lost conscience or simply died quickly). So Petrie could wrench free and then climb up the wall (flying was still a new experience for him and was probably difficult with soaked wings).
Well that's cool that you found an official source telling how Petrie escaped! :)
Perhaps it was a plan for an actual scene? Of course that would ruin the Indiana Jones escapeness of it. :smile
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I chose the whole movie. It's just really sweet, the whole thing. :cry
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There are many moments that were sad, but I voted for the scenes where Littlefoot was crying over his mother's death. Especially the scene with Rooter. :cry
When I was a kid I could make it through the Sharptooth attack and when his mother actually dies, but I completely lost it when Littlefoot started to cry! :crazy As a matter of fact, I still can't make it through that part without getting misty-eyed.
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Well this is a tricky one... It was mainly the music that got me fighting back the tears as a kid. But then again the music accompanied by the scenes such as the death of Littlefoot's mum, the scene with Rooter, the little flyer offering him a cherry, and the when Littlefoot is crying into a foot print. Make it even more hard to stop the flow of tears...
So I'm not quite sure what to vote for here....
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I wasn't sure what to vote for, but in the end, I voted for Littlefoot's mother, simply because I've only recently managed to get to the point that I can even watch the dang movie for that scene. Seriously, I'd find it online, and avoid it for that. But, I think I'm good now...though, I still can't look very much...
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Same here, voted for Littlefoot's Mother's death. It's the only scene that can make me teary-eyed if I'm in a bad mood (I often watch LBT when I'm sad). Though the movie itself would be a close second.
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I have to agree with Ducky and CeratheRed. The scene involving the death of Littlefoot's mom was one of the most emotional scenes I remember watching as a child. The scene where he sees his shadow and mistakes it for his mother would be a close second in my opinion.
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And not to forget Ducky mourning Petrie's supposed demise.
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I was so sad the first and every time I watch the first movie when Littlefoot's Mother dies :'(! :cry
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I remember as a kid the scene were Sharptooth crunches Littlefoot's tree-star made me feel really bad for Littlefoot.
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I remember as a kid the scene were Sharptooth crunches Littlefoot's tree-star made me feel really bad for Littlefoot.
Same here, man! I'm not sure which scene I think is the MOST heart-wrenching, so I probably won't be voting in this one. I'd say it's a toss-up between Littlefoot's mother dying, Littlefoot grieving afterwards, and when he thought his shadow was his mother.
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The whole movie is one big coin of heartwarming and heartwretching. :')
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One thing I found heart-wrenching about this movie was the end credits; however, it was due to Diana Ross singing If We Hold On Together; I really like her singing voice. I always found it to be one of the best parts in the entire movie.
However, the saddest part in the entire film is Littlefoot's mother's death. Despite sacrificing her life to save Littlefoot and Cera, it still didn't make her death less painful to watch.
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Hmm let's see what I chose 10 years ago...the whole movie. Yea I think I still agree with that. While Littlefoot's mother's death is sad I'd consider all the scenes up until meeting Ducky to be equally sad. Littlefoot's mother just died and now you have to watch him get filled with false hope looking at his shadow...that's pretty brutal. I went to Lion King in theaters when it had a re-release in 3D and the things I never noticed as a kid was how much they soften the blow of Mufasa's death. Almost immediately after his death you get a large chunk of the movie devoted to comedic relief. With LBT you get almost none of that. The birds fighting over the berry is the only thing that comes to mind and even then it segues into Littlefoot starving himself.
I've joked with my roommate on the flashback montage since the movie is like "hey, remember all the happy moments in this movie? All 30 seconds of it?"
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Almost immediately after his death you get a large chunk of the movie devoted to comedic relief. With LBT you get almost none of that.
That is exactly of the reasons I love LBT so much. It has funny moments but the whole film is devoted to building an emotional bond with the characters and the world itself. Speaking about the Lion King, Timon and Pumba ruin very much of the film for me and I truly like that LBT, despite comic moments, never introduce Mr. Pig to us. x(cera As for the poll, I believe I voted the third option as the part between Littlefoot's mother's death and meeting Ducky is the saddest and the best part of the film for me. The scenery, the narration and especially the music... it doesn't get much better than that. :cry
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I voted for Option 5. It's a really brutal reminder that he's all alone.
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When Littlefoot sees a shadow that looks like his mother and he runs to it shoring”mother,” and then he gets up to the wall of rock and licks it and then realizes it’s not her. The narrator then says, “Little realized his mother was really gone.” (Paraphrase). So sad. Almost tied is the actual death of Mama Longneck, and Littlefoot crying out “mother?! Mother?” The thought of him staying with his deceased mother’s body is such a heart wrenching one. I wonder how long he stayed with her before he ran into Ol’ Rooter?
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Most enotional moment is when Little Foot’s mother died and he says in sombering vouce, “mother? Mother?!” Littlefoot laying with his dead mother in the dark is the saddest moment and pulled on my emotional strings.
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So shadow or death of mother? :)
(stop cutting onions!)
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So shadow or death of mother? :)
(stop cutting onions!)
I just saw I had two onions.. I mean opinions :lol
I am going to say for me its Momma Longneck’s death scene at night and Littlefoot crying “mother? Mother?!” Oh man, now I am starting to tear up agaij..
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Yeah, Littlefoot's mother for me too. Always brings me to tears. Gotta man up. :DD
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I'm gonna have to echo what the previous few people said and go with Littlefoot watching his mother die. As I mentioned in my introduction post in the Welcome Center, I cried when I saw that part again for the first time in over 15 years.
Other honourable mentions:
- Pretty much everything that follows the aforementioned scene. When that little pterosaur tries to cheer Littlefoot up by giving him the cherry, and keeps nudging it closer and closer. Littlefoot just stares on lifelessly and doesn't even react, and then the pterosaur's eager smile falls away. And then Littlefoot seeing what he thinks is his mother's shadow on the side of the cliff. Even the scene with Rooter, even though Rooter is trying to comfort Littlefoot, is still kinda sad in its own way. "The great circle of life has begun. But see, not all of us arrive together at the end."
- Littlefoot and Cera's fight. Quoting WeirdRaptor from page 2, who described it best: "The scene when Cera insults Littlefoot's mother... when you saw the rage Cera's hurtful words envoked in Littlefoot. One part of you knows that Littlefoot is better than that while the other half is egging him on to rip her head off. Very emotional."
- After the other kids rescue Cera from the predators and prank her with the tar, and then she leaves them in tears. Granted, I do feel Cera kinda got what she deserved. Still, she's just been through a traumatizing experience, and subsequently gets laughed at and utterly humiliated by her friends, and it's enough to make a normally tough and headstrong dinosaur like her completely break down. It's the moment when she seems to realize how awful she's been, and despite all her bravado, she's forced to come to terms with the fact that Littlefoot is a far better leader than her.
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On the more uplifting side of emotional moments, the scene where Littlefoot and Ducky first meet is really cute. She's able to finally snap him out of his depression. I also love the music when she tries to pass off as a longneck (at 0:50 of "Foraging For Food" on the OST).
Also the scene where they all cuddle up at night and go to sleep. It gives us our biggest glimpse so far that Cera does have a more caring side buried deep down. And the music is, again, fantastic.
More of an awesome moment than a heart-wrenching moment. But during the final battle, when all of a sudden Cera shows up and yells "I'M COMING!!", and then rams the boulder and sends Sharptooth plunging into the drink. After spending the whole movie being a pompous braggart, she finally gets to do something genuinely heroic and saves the day.
And then at the very end when Littlefoot sees his mother in the clouds. Even though Sharptooth is gone, he still sounds so lost and defeated and broken. "Mother... I - I tried to do what you told me, but it's just too hard. I'll never find the Great Valley... Mother? Mother! Don't go, Mother! Don’t go!” :cry
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Littlefoot's mother dying and Littlefoot having to cope with that will obviously be the most heart-wrenching moment of the movie. I could tell that he was in denial at first, but the reality of the situation was just too real, and it broke my heart considering that he had to experience that at such a young age. Anyone who had a similar experience in real life would obviously relate to it a lot. But apart from that obvious, I also think it was heart-wrenching to see such negative influence being brought upon Cera by her father Topps. That clear bias in favor of his own species and not allowing Cera to play with others, including his very hard-headed personality has really influenced his daughter a lot to be racist and bigoted. As much as I hated her attitude, I couldn't help but feel bad for her deep down. And yes, I know different species didn't exactly mingle with each other before the Great Earthshake, but still.
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I also think it was heart-wrenching to see such negative influence being brought upon Cera by her father Topps. That clear bias in favor of his own species and not allowing Cera to play with others, including his very hard-headed personality has really influenced his daughter a lot to be racist and bigoted. As much as I hated her attitude, I couldn't help but feel bad for her deep down. And yes, I know different species didn't exactly mingle with each other before the Great Earthshake, but still.
Even though I really like Cera, I totally agree there. Notice that, upon meeting Littlefoot, she initially doesn't seem to have any problem playing with him until Topps intervenes. In some ways, I actually think she's a bigger victim than Littlefoot.
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Another moment that gets to me is during the night when Littlefoot wakes up and sees the frog and chases after it, when you know what it leads to. And how he inadvertently caused his own mother's death that way. Even the soothing yet somber music that plays right as he wakes up (4:48 on the "Sharptooth and the Earthquake" track). The movie just has such a haunting quality to it.
One other thing I noticed is that, right after Littlefoot and Cera's fight, it plays a reprise of the theme where Littlefoot's mother dies. As if this movie couldn't get any more sad.