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The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: NewOrder on December 28, 2006, 11:56:26 AM
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Warning: May contain spoilers
I've just seen lbt 12. I can just say it's a lot better than lbt 11. I wasn't expecting much from this sequel, as some of you know, but thankfully they've proved me wrong =p
Guido's a very funny character, and the entire story around him is interesting, although in the end we still don't know where he comes from. Tricia is very cute, she doesn't say much and the movie tends to go around the way Cera feels about having her as her sister.
For the first time Petre's seeblings actually say something and are important for the story. The songs are very good, and I enjoyed the rythm of Flip Flap & Fly.
To finish - I don't want to spoil it any more than I already have =P - the use of CGI was very well accomplished, however they did put grass, which didn't exist at that time. Oh well we're all used to scientific inaccuracies throughout the series, what's one more...
I give it an 8 in a scale from 1 to 10 :D
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8/10? That's a good sign! Err, how did you manage to see it? I thought it was going to come out late February...
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Yeah, apparently it is, but a friend of mine download it, and lend it to me
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Actually, grass DID exist; some fossilized grass was discovered inside of the stomach of a dinosaur fossil somewhere in Asia. Anyway, Tricia's her name. Figures. It's another derivative of "Triceratops", like Cera, Tria, Topsy (Topps?), and now Tricia.
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NewOrder, you think you could send me the download?
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Noname where have you seen that info about the grass?
DarkHououmon, do you know how to use torrents? If you do, give me your e-mail and I'll send it to you
Another thing, the DVD doesn't have any special features besides the 4 language options, do you think the US-Europe release will have any special features?
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Another thing, the DVD doesn't have any special features besides the 4 language options, do you think the US-Europe release will have any special features?
FOUR LANGUAGES!? Wow, that's awesome! Unfortuently my computer can't work with torrents, or at least they have never worked for me, so I guess I'll have to wait until the movie is released on video. Unless, of course, someone uploads the movie in parts on servers like Up-File or MegaUpload or something. On another note, I saw that discover about grass. Interesting, to say the least.
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Yes I do know how to use torrents. My e-mail address is inferdramon@yahoo.com
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Grass link:
www.american-lawns.com/grasses/dino_poop.html
Oh, and isn't it illegal to distribute copyrighted movies on the internet without the copyright holder's permission? And one more thing; it MIGHT be BARELY legal to put he movie up on some website without making a download available; just watching the movie ON THE SITE. Sorry for the excessive capitalizations; I just thought that this was important.
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Woah, that grass thing is really amazing, we can look at dinosaurs in a completely different way now... it also explains the existence of some grazing mammals by that time =p
Torrents, eMule, Kazaa, Soulseek, all these things are illegal. Still everyone uses them to get songs, albums, movies, games, etc. As long as you don't start selling them out, no one will ever do anything to you.
DarkHououmon I've sent you an email with the torrent.
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I think I tried that same torrent before. I kept having to stop it because it was taking too long.
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Is that the same torrent someone posted on N54? I bet someone had an evaluation copy and you get the words "do not distribute" every now and then on screen...sometimes people get to watch stuff early...and then share it with the world. :rolleyes:
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I rather suppose that somebody in Australia brought up the video. Remember that the movie has been released there already.
I will in any case buy the DvD.
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At least someone is waiting to buy the DVD when it comes out. Good for you, Malte. You truly deserve the title "Land Before Time Philosopher." By the way, if anyone has information about the 12th movie, it's plot and characters, they should put it on wikipedia, or the land before time wiki, or leave some sort of review, synopsis, or summary of what they saw.
P.S. It says on wikipedia that Rinkus and Sierra appear in this movie. Is this true?
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At least someone is waitng to buy the DVD when it comes out.
The truth is I was and still am willing to wait. But I am the type of person who doesn't mind downloading stuff off the internet. It doesn't mean I am impatient.
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I think my internet prodvider would be a bit suspicious if I was to try and download a 4.7gb torrent....what do you think? :rolleyes: Not happening here.
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My brother makes it a habit of downloading torrents, which is kind of annoying to me because it slows down the computer.
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Well NewOrder, since you've seen the movie, you would know if Rinkus and Sierra appear in it or not. So do they?
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I'm still going to buy the movie, but since this oportunity showed up I just couldn't resist =p
Nope, Rinkus and Sierra will not appear on lbt 12, although there are two pterosaurs just like them, they're not them and the only thing they do is sing-a-long with the Flip, Flap and Fly song
As for that torrent, it works, it took my friend about 4 days to download it. His internet connection is a DSL 2 mb though.
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Just to note, any links to that torrent will be removed from this site. ;) We're not out to supply it.
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Doesn't mean we can't get it by e-mail. :P:
I would like a torrent of it too. Send it to pokeplayer984@hotmail.com
I'll be waiting. :^.^:
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NewOrder: I'm sorry but the torrent just doesn't work for me. It was taking way too long to download. It's been 3 days and it was only 34% done. At that rate, it would have taken until around Thursday to complete, and my dad wasn't happy, and I'm sure my other family members weren't very happy either. The torrent was taking up RAM and slowing down the computer. And I've got cable. I'm gonna have to find a faster way.
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Well I shouldn't be one to worry too much since I've got my own computer and wireless Broadband. :)
*sighs* The wonders of wireless internet. :^.^:
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Dark Hououmon: I've already responded to your PM
pokeplayer984: Has anyone sent you the torrent already?
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NewOrder, do you know why universal has rated the 12th movie as "tween" instead of for younger age groups?
Maybe the 32-minute shot at http://images2.fotosik.pl/284/998c69d30bb09b60.jpg (http://images2.fotosik.pl/284/998c69d30bb09b60.jpg) has something to do with it? (Cera's father looks worried about something.)
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I'm sorry Im not familiar with that rate, does ir meen for teens?
Well, this movie wasn't so "childish" as the latter ones. In fact, Guido's character is much more developed than previous one-film hosts. Which leads me to believe he's here to stay... I rather not go into details, or else I'll spoil it for you
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Dark Hououmon: I've already responded to your PM
pokeplayer984: Has anyone sent you the torrent already?
Sorry I haven't responded to this.
Anyways, none that I know of at the current moment.
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Ok, I'll send it to your e-mail then. You should get it in the next 10 mins
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I wonder if it's possible (or legal) to place a video of "flip, flap, and fly" on the internet, or at least to place a sound file of some sort.
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I wonder if it's possible (or legal) to place a video of "flip, flap, and fly" on the internet, or at least to place a sound file of some sort.
It's not like the audio of one song is going to ruin the DVD sales when it comes to the states. :rolleyes: Worst that can happen is you're forced to remove it or its taken down.
You'd be amazed the stuff you can find on the 'net that's been around for months and nobody has taken it down. I think it really does encourage the people to go out and get the real deal....people put up those low quality versions for a reason. :P: I'm the only one who put up clips from the original Watership Down on youtube and people have asked for me to upload the whole thing...somebody is selling DVD's once the interest is captured. :) I fail to see how that's bad for a production company.
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Here is the official Amazon.com review (Contains Spoilers)
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Young dinosaur friends Little Foot, Cera, Spike, Ducky, and Petrie are content with their lives in the Great Valley, but things keep changing and sometimes the friends just feel like they don't quite fit in. As Petrie struggles to perfect his flying for the very important Day of the Flyers, he realizes how different he is from his brothers and sisters and, while he and his friends value his uniqueness, it's causing big problems in the family's flight formations. Meanwhile, Cera is struggling with the arrival of a new baby sister and the resulting lack of attention from her father and Tria. When an odd creature named Guido shows up in the valley, Petrie befriends him and learns an important lesson about how to maintain his individuality while still contributing to his family's collaborative flight. A courageous act by Guido saves Cera's sister from peril, helping Cera realize how much she really cares about her new sister, and sparking a personal revelation that gives Guido a much better sense of his own place in the world. This is an entertaining animated show with a wholesome message about the importance of friendship, adaptability, and uniqueness.
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I tried to take out that video from the movie, with adobe premiere, but I wasn't able to. Do any of you guys know how to do it?
Btw, here's a small movie I did for my video class in college =p
Overhearing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh6p5kLopmM)
Don't worry there are no conversations so you won't have any language isues.
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Nice video, NO. That town you were walking down looks beuatiful IMHO. About the movie I do hope it comes to America soon. From what I heard it sounds better than LBT XI (It wasn't as great as the others) It looks interesting, so I hope to look forward to it ;)
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KingdomKey23 Thanks, that's my town =p
As for lbt XII, I think you're going to like it, it's morelike lbt 9 in terms of story and the new character really brings something more (at least in my point of view)
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Well, I downloaded it the moment I got it from you, NewOrder. I'll be patiently awaiting for it. As long as there aren't any shutdown problems, things should go well.
As for how long I have, just 3 more days. :^.^:
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Okay! Waiting for the torrent to download was worth the wait. :^.^:
Now, for everyone who has yet to see the movie, I will warn everyone that my review contains spoilers. So if you don't want to be spoiled, don't look at this. :)
Now, I remember that someone asked why this got the rating of "tween"? Well, the only reason I can think of is the physical bodily harm Tria did to Topsy in protecting Tricia (pronounced "trisha") before she hatched. In all truth, it looked only the slightest bit sexually offensive. Even though I know most won't agree, I also know that the wrong person will take that scene the wrong way. As such, it was a safe move to make this rated "tween".
Next up, I will comment on Guido. (pronounced "gwEdO") He's basically one of those charcters that is commented as, "he talks too much". In a way, he's a bit funny. He once in a while comments with a bad joke, which as we all know in the right situation can be quite funny. He also gave rather good advice to Petrie and helped him regain the courage needed to pass the flying test. He also helped Cera with the relationship issues she was having with Tricia.
Oh, and I found out Guido's diet for anyone who's curious, he eats worms. He actually literally ate one in this movie. I guess some people could find that gross now that I think about it. Yet, he finds green food gross. (He really didn't like that stuff.)
In all truth, I very much look forward to any possible appearance of him in the LBT Series TV show. :)
There's not much to comment on Tricia. Pretty much anything you would comment on a normal newborn baby. (I bet the word "cute!" is coming to many people's minds right now.) Only thing is that Tria commented that Tricia had learned to run faster than most threehorns do. Oh, and she actually says her first word in this movie right near the end, which turned out to be "Cera". :^.^:
As for the actual plot itself, it was rather good. Petrie having trouble with flying, though doesn't he always? :lol Though near the end, he goes with his own way of flying and he was just amazing. All of the tricks he pulled off... :wow He's quite the amazing little flyer.
Oh, and you won't believe who actually made an appearance in this movie. It was none other than the star of LBT 9, Mo. It's only a small cameo one. He actually jumps out of the water and says the word "fly" during the song, "Flip, Flap and Fly". Even though it was only a little word, it definately sounded like him. :) Not only that, but he looked like him down to the very last detail.
My favorite song in this movie was "Everything Changes". It's one of those more meaniful songs in the movie. :)
Oh, and action9000, if you're reading, I'll make sure to give you the lyrics to the songs in this movie, ASAP. :^.^:
Anyways, this was a good movie. It is indeed one of the better sequals. Looks like LBT might be gaining back the touch it once lost. :)
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Forgive me for being unduly curious, but why would Tria need to protect Tricia's egg from Topsy (keeping in mind that he's Tricia's father)?
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Forgive me for being unduly curious, but why would Tria need to protect Tricia's egg from Topsy (keeping in mind that he's Tricia's father)?
It was at night and Tria has known Topsy to be rather "shifty" during the night. Poor Topsy ended up falling off a cliff due to where Tria directed him to sleep. :lol:
She was basically just trying to prevent Topsy from rolling onto the egg in his sleep. :^.^:
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Oh, then the cliff hurt him :rolleyes:
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Lol, that part is hilarious, I haven't laughed so much with a LBT movie for a long time :D
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I hope it was a small cliff :lol
On another note, I wonder if it happened at the 10-minute mark shown in the preview at http://images2.fotosik.pl/284/998c69d30bb09b60.jpg (http://images2.fotosik.pl/284/998c69d30bb09b60.jpg)
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Oh, then the cliff hurt him :rolleyes:
Well he did say "Ow!" when Tria nudged him the way I mentioned.
But the cliff definately hurt him more. But it was indeed a small cliff as it took him only a split second to hit the ground. :lol
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Given the typical boundries of physical comedy, I doubt it was a small cliff. :lol: Did he, like, wake up half the valley or something with the racket he must have caused?
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I laughed out loud just because I read that! After reading pokeplayer's most recent post it sounds like an above-average sequel. Do any of you plan on uploading the movie on YouTube, or maybe hosting the movie on YouSendIt or something?
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That clips from the movie would probably be allowed, but it might not be legal to send a whole movie on yousendit (in fact, probably not.)
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That clips from the movie would probably be allowed, but it might not be legal to send a whole movie on yousendit (in fact, probably not.)
Ah, that's true...
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But the clip alone sounds funny. I don't see why that woulden't be allowed (too small to prevent Universal from making money on its copyrighted intellectual property.)
Besides, any full-length movie under copyright protection on you tube would likely be rapidly identified and removed.
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Plus, there are companies that don't allow even YouTube to show their movies. Even if it's low quality. -_-
EDIT: Darn! Noname beat me! <_<
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Plus, there are companies that don't allow even YouTube to show their movies. Even if it's low quality. -_-
Wow, really? I didn't know that.
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But as I said before, if anyone who has the twelth movie wants to post a clip from it, it should be alright, as long as it is limited to no more than a minute or two.
Edit: Is is possible to cut a scene out of a torrent?
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I'm not sure.
And I don't really believe in limiting a single short clip to just 1 or 2 minutes, because the clips I experienced in the past that were this short were often in horrible quality. Doesn't happen all the time, of course. Oh, and the clips I'm talking about weren't on YouTube.
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Why don't you believe in limiting a clip to a more legally allowable time? Besides, its probably just siginifcant scenes that most of us wish to see at present; most of the people on this forum don't want to violate copyright laws to see the whole film. Besides, there are plenty of good scenes to choose from that could probably be shown in a minute or two long clips. Some scenes would probably include:
-The falling scene we were mentioning (with Cera's father falling off of a short cliff.)
-Tricia's hatching scene.
-The climax scene with the Day of the Flyers formations (I haven't seen the movie so I don't know what it would be like)
-The "Flip, Flap, and Fly" song
-The scene where Tricia says her first word.
-Probably many others.
So yes, we can show short, interesting clips without breaking any law.
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Because, the clips I experienced in the past (not on YouTube) that were a minute or two were in horrible quality, I mean so horrible you couldn't even tell what was going on. Many of these clips were recorded right off the TV with a camcorder. Besides, I don't believe there's anything wrong with showing a clip that's maybe 5 or 7 minutes long.
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Well, the problem with those clips was that they came from people who don't have the right equipment to show the movie on a computer. But the people of this forum probably do have the equipment and skills needed to show clips from a movie and send them on yousendit or some other system. Better yet, some of them even (maybe illegally?) have the 12th movie. Which means that they can post/send clips from that movie. Oh, and you're probably right; it is probably allowed to show a five to seven minute long clip.
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I see.
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Oh well. Sorry to hear that torrents aren't working very well. At least we get to see land before time series tv episodes on this website. The next one is coming out Friday.
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Yeah.
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Given the typical boundries of physical comedy, I doubt it was a small cliff. :lol: Did he, like, wake up half the valley or something with the racket he must have caused?
Well we really don't know based on the fact that right after Topsy fell off the cliff, the movie went to Tria saying, "Much better." Then going to sleep. After which, the movie goes straight to the morning of the next day with the gang talking.
So who knows if he woke up anybody at all. :lol:
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That scene sounds funny on one hand, and somewhat serious on the other. If Topsy rolls over on the egg, he would crush it in an instant. That woulden't be funny at all. I suppose it's better to fall a small distance that to be responsible for the death of one's unborn child.
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Lol, you're taking it too serious. "Topsy" wasn't anywhere near the egg... Tria had a dream where the egg was crushed so she woke up afraid that something could happen to the egg. Seing Topsy was awake, she told him to move aside becuase he was a wrestless sleeper, he denied itbuy obeied her wishes. See it's a completely funny scene that has now been narrowed down to a boring description
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Sorry if this has been posted before, but does anyone know when the movie is coming out on DVD?
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I can't remember if this is the exact date or not, but I thought it was around February 24.
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Never mind, lets just drop the conversation about this scene. We've beaten it to death at least five posts ago. Oh, and the movie should be out in stores by February 27th in the U.S.
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Heh, okay. Feb. 27...that's not too long after my birthday.
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Late birthday gift then :lol:
I wonder if this new release will have any special features... the australian one had none besides the language options.
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I got to watch Sunday. Thought it was okay, besides I like pterosaurs anyway *g* But there was no Quetzalcoatlus *sniffle* And they're around, LBT 8 had one. (I think it was 8, Stone of Cold Fire)
As for Cera and Tricia, I'd like to know what happened to the new hatchlings following Cera at the end of LBT 2...not to mention the others of the GoF. I was surprised Tria was back, they've never done too well keeping characters from one movie around to the next.
If I hve more thoughts, I'll post them tomorrow, I gotta get to bed before I'm falling asleep at work in the morning.
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Got LBT 12 from UK shop today, found it in HMV after looking in every other shop, some reason not been released right away in stores in the UK and HMV had only 1 come in so I was very lucky to get it, well get it for the downstairs collection. I watched it all and found it to be a very very good one, I like how the story went and the songs as well :)
Very funny sence with Mr Threehorn landing in the mud after he ignored the warning from our feathered friend.
I am still on wait for my copy from the USA but I will get it :) no rush in getting it and look forward to getting that special edition version. all and all I loved this one and look forward to more to come :D
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At long last I finally watched the land before time XII. The following review may include repetitions of what has been written in this thread before. I don’t know, for I wrote it in word and copy pasted it in this thread without reading the previous posts. My intention is to give a first hand account of just my own impressions without any influence from reading the thoughts of others before posting my own. After posting this message I shall read the thread and see if I just repeated what others said before, or if I brought up something new, if there are any disagreements on some points, or if I am in complete accordance with everybody else. We shall see.
First of all my overall impression of LBT XII is mixed. It is better than some, worse than some, contains nothing that would make me “rant” against it as much as I did in case of a certain other sequel, but also contains nothing that would secure the movie a place in my heart (or however we want to call it) as much as is the case with many other LBT movies.
One thing I realized was how much the attention is shifted away from Littlefoot and towards the others, Cera and Petrie in particular. We have had previous movies in which the others got more of the spotlight that they had had in even earlier movies, but I think in this movie Littlefoot got less screen time than in any other LBT movie and he for the first time he did almost nothing of any real significance. I welcome attempts to put the others more in the spotlight, but I don’t hope for Littlefoot to become negligible. This fear is rather unfounded I suppose considering the fact that he got a good deal more spotlight than the others in the sequels preceding LBT 12.
I avoided reading spoilers during the last months, but couldn’t help learning about the idea of the day of the flyers as a day on which they fly in close formations. Ever since, I have been wondering why they would do that. There is nothing really to be gained for the flyers by flying in such formations while the very “freedom of flying” is kind of limited. In a way the outcome of the day of the flyers supports this view. Littlefoot’s grandpa mentioned the need to fly in herds. I don’t know why, but I had always pictured flyers to be sort of loners if it came to travelling, just because they have so much more freedom of movement than anyone else. Then again even the original movie showed large flocks of flyers. It would make sense for them to work out a way to ensure there are no stragglers when flying over hostile land to ensure that nobody has to land on his own if landing is necessary. While even a large flock of flyers is not likely to scare off any sharptooth, they are less likely to be surprised by one the more eyes (that is flyers) are around. Close flying formations occur in nature (wild geese are the best example), but somehow the degree in the movie seemed a bit exaggerated. Above all however they were a bit inconstant. Considering the emphasis they had put on the necessity of formation flying earlier in the movie they (Petrie’s siblings in particular) were surprisingly ready to abandon it towards the end.
During the scene in which Petrie was carrying Guido I was somewhat sceptical about the possibility of little Petrie carrying the larger Guido. In LBT 2 we have a scene in which he is barely able to soften a fall when carrying Ducky. But I guess with the effect of will power (after all Petrie and Guido had grown very good friends), the risk of death, and the degree of exhaustion Petrie showed I thought this was alright. When Petrie kept both Guido AND Tricia in the air I found this was too much.
Guido is a character rather different from those we’ve seen so far. He does follow the “tradition” of keeping many new character mysterious (as in case of Doc and the rainbowfaces). We never learn about how he really got to the Great Valley. It is very likely that he was sleepwalking / -flying and ended up in the Great Valley, but why didn’t he remember anything at all? And what about his family? Wouldn’t they look for him? Or did perhaps their fate (assuming that they were killed by predators or the like) cause a shock and Guido’s apparent amnesia? The voice of Guido was a little difficult to get used to as far as I’m concerned. His way of talking was interesting though. Did you realize he told all of Petrie’s siblings in a most uncontroversial manner that they were buttheads?
There were several funny statements not only from Guido but also from Cera and her family.
The other new character, Tricia was less spectacular than Guido I think. Of course she wasn’t meant to be much of a character but more of a “device” to put Cera and her folks in particular moods. I have a bit of a problem with this part of the story’s lack of coherence with reference to earlier movies and LBT 6 in particular. There were threehorn hatchlings around in LBT 2 and 3 (who didn’t play any role) but most conspicuously in LBT 6, Dinah and Dana. We were never told where Dinah and Dana were coming from (or where they have gone to since LBT 6). From their experiences with them one could expect a little more practice from Cera and her Dad with hatchlings around. Dinah and Dana also were an example of hatchling characters who played a much more active and interesting part in their movie than Tricia did. Well, she may yet get something more to do. I expect her to become a permanent character in future LBT movies and is probably involved in TV series sequels (I still have to see many of them) too.
LBT 12 addressed several interesting points. More than in any previous movies it struck me that none of the main characters seems to take much interest in their siblings or just members of their own kind. While in the original movie Littlefoot is looking forward to the Great Valley longnecks to play with (under the impression of the claim that one shouldn’t do anything with members of another kind) we’ve seen him interact with longnecks of his age only twice (not counting possible cases in the TV series I have yet to see), in LBT 4 and LBT 10. Cera never interacts with threehorns of her own age and in LBT 5 she admits other threehorns are too bossy for her. Up to now we never saw Petrie interact with his siblings (and showing a little more of Petrie’s family is one of the very positive points of LBT 12), and Ducky (as the other main character with many siblings) is only shown to interact with her siblings in the original movie and LBT 8. Spike is actually the only one who (having grown up apart from any member of his kind) shows a particular interest in his own species in LBT 8.
As for the music of LBT 12 I found “Everything changes” to be the best of the three.
On several occasions I had the impression that the creators of LBT 12 were somewhat “testing” the possibilities of whatever software they are using. There were scenes in which the grass background appeared smooth as it does in previous movies while in other scenes you could see every single blade of grass. Personally I’m inclined to prefer the simpler version as the other somehow doesn’t seem to fit to the way the characters are drawn. The grass is just one example of several computer elements they are involving sometimes for a good, and sometimes for a too artificially looking effect. There seems to be a certain fondness for letting water sparkle in the sunshine. Water reflection effects employed at the beginning of LBT 12 strongly reminded me of similar effects at the end of LBT 9.
In one scene there was a kind of Matrix effect. They had Littlefoot leap across a ravine, then his movement turned into slow motion all of a sudden, the camera was moving around a bit, then the tempo turned back to normal and Littlefoot only just made it to the other side. Somehow the effect didn’t seem to fit in. There was nothing particularly special about that leap or its outcome so the special effect seemed a bit out of place to me.
They also used a few camera moves along the lines of Petrie’s route of flying, something I don’t remember from any earlier movie.
I’m almost certain that I forgot to mention some important points, but I want to post this message still today and may be reminded of whatever I have forgotten when I finally read the thread.
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Oh, and you won't believe who actually made an appearance in this movie. It was none other than the star of LBT 9, Mo. It's only a small cameo one. He actually jumps out of the water and says the word "fly" during the song, "Flip, Flap and Fly". Even though it was only a little word, it definately sounded like him. Not only that, but he looked like him down to the very last detail.
This was one of the points I forgot to mention. It also makes Mo the first character to have a guestappearance more than once (he was shown in the LBT 10 song "Adventuring" already).
Oh, and I found out Guido's diet for anyone who's curious, he eats worms. He actually literally ate one in this movie. I guess some people could find that gross now that I think about it. Yet, he finds green food gross. (He really didn't like that stuff.)
Another point I forgot to mention. It is important to notice that this scene shows that the eating of some creatures (worms / insects) is tolerated, if not welcomed, in the Great Valley. This degree of tolerance as long as creatures the dinosaurs can't really relate to makes it easier for Chomper to appear in the TV series. I wonder where the tolerance about this ends though. What about fish? What about corpses? What in case an insect was able to talk (there are two land before time audio plays existing in Germany which include a talking caterpillar named Harry).
Finally it was kind of funny to see how carelessly one egg was treated during the song Flip, Flap, and Fly (dumped in water, in a volcano, hurled around etc.) after all the "fuss" Tria and Topsy made about their egg. :lol
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Another point I forgot to mention. It is important to notice that this scene shows that the eating of some creatures (worms / insects) is tolerated, if not welcomed, in the Great Valley. This degree of tolerance as long as creatures the dinosaurs can't really relate to makes it easier for Chomper to appear in the TV series. I wonder where the tolerance about this ends though. What about fish? What about corpses? What in case an insect was able to talk (there are two land before time audio plays existing in Germany which include a talking caterpillar named Harry).
Well, none of the members of the valley seem to be particularly fond of insects. Grandpa Longneck saw them as an annoyance in LBT 9, when he was explaining to Littlefoot how no one is ever truely alone. In the song of "Creepy Crawlies" in LBT 11, it showed the rest of the grownups not like things that crawls, is small and bites you. Know anything in that description? ;)
So I guess that might explain why eating insects is tolerated with the members of the Great Valley. :^.^:
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I first watched LBT 12 a couple of weeks ago so here's my take on it:
I generally enjoyed this newest sequel as it seemed a bit "lighter". There seemed to be a much greater focus on "family units" with Petrie being the outcast of his siblings when flying and Cera getting used to not being in the spotlight of her father's/Tria's attention with the arrival of Trisha. There wasn't much in the way of action/danger/excitement as in the previous instalments of LBT but I still enjoyed the family factors of this one. The new arrival of Guido I think gave this sequel a bit more of a fun aspect. I really liked him despite being a rather "disposable" character. I liked his charm (Rob Paulsen was a perfect choice of his voice as always) and the way he was so unsure of everything. I didn't like his exit though. He seemed to literally just "up and leave". The gang didn't say goodbye to him, you don't see him in the closing scenes or anything. Unlike Doc's enigmatic dpearture, Littlefoot actually acknowledged his departure where as Guido just babbles nervously to Topsy then dashes off scene.
There was definitely a change in limelight candidates this time round (as Malte has already mentioned). Whereas we've been used to seeing Littlefoot take centre-stage for the majority of the sequels, the attention shift definitely falls more primarily on Cera and Petrie. I wouldn't go so far as to say that he, Ducky and Spike were "neglected" but their appearances seemed a little more like space-fillers than actually contributing a great deal to the main concepts of the story. As with LBT 11, not much in terms of the whole "getting lost out in the Mysterious Beyond" routine (which is both good and bad). We've come to expect Littlefoot and Co to normally stumble across something out of the oridinary (normally in the MB) but this LBT seems a lot "closer to home" in the sense that they don't wander too far from the Valley. Songs were cute and touching.
Overall, I enjoyed this LBT. I liked the ethics and general "coping with family issues" morals to this sequel. Definitely one of my more likeable LBTs although I do think that a certain amount of what we enjoyed about the previous LBTs seems to have escaped this instalment. The sense of adventure seems to have dwindled a little in my opinion despite the little action scenes where Guido starts sleepwalking. ;)
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Annother point I forgot to mention in my review is the sharptooth of the movie. Apparently somebody in charge watched Jurrassic Park III and thought a Spinosaurus to be a nice alternative to the standard sharptooth or raptors. I certainly don't object Spinosauruses, but I do object the sad trend to make sharpteeth mere toys for bored kids. Tickeling a sharptooth inside its mouth to get out? Give me a break!
Since LBT 9 we didn't have a decent sharptooth anymore. Perhaps the Degeneration of the sharpteeth is worth an own thread.
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Perhaps the Degeneration of the sharpteeth is worth an own thread.
Maybe that could be set up in the Character Discussion board. Even though we're not talking about a specific character, the sharpteeth having the air of "wow! We're even less intelligent then we were [insert number here] movies ago!" is something I've noticed throughout, increasing, as the movies continue.
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Annother point I forgot to mention in my review is the sharptooth of the movie. Apparently somebody in charge watched Jurrassic Park III and thought a Spinosaurus to be a nice alternative to the standard sharptooth or raptors.
This is not the only time Universal Studio's other major dinosaur franchise has influenced LBT. Isn't it a coincidence that LBT3 had raptors just after the first Jurassic Park? You also have sound effects from JP in the TV series. Can't think of any more---anyone else here thought of another example?
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I remember when I heard LBT 12 was coming out. I found this out on february 9th and counted the days to the 27th. I was so eager to see it. I finally got it on february 29th. Those 2 days seemed like 2 months! God I was so excited when It finally came. I had to spend $19 in shipping but it was well worth it. I liked this movie a lot better than lbt 11. I really hated that one because it just didn't seem to have a purpose. I was very happy the way lbt 12 came out. It is now one of my favorite movies. I love all of the great scenes that it has. The animation is above terrific and the songs were very nice (except for flip flap and fly. That one was really lame. I think they put it in there cuz they just needed another song.). I could do without seeing Guido again but I think he did very well in this movie. I do not believe however that he should become a member of the GOF. I think he should be like Mo, Archie, Tickles, and other characters that were only in a couple episodes. I do think that they will keep him in at least one more sequal. He just can't be gone on lbt 13. They never said goodbye. I guess they could just claim in lbt 13 that he left for some reason and that they should see him again someday. Anyway, I just wanted to say that lbt 12 was a wonderful movie and it will be on my favorites list for some time to come or until they make a better lbt movie.
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Oh I forgot to mention that there is a way to send a movie to someone else via a program called beamfile. It takes about an hour to download 5GB so since the movies are only 700mb, I estimate it would take 8.4 minutes for someone with cable internet. With dialup, you should expect it to take at least 2 weeks. So all of you who are trying to send the link of a torrent, don't bother. Simply use beamfile and recieve the file in less than 10 minutes.
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this one did a lot for me, it got me into watching them again, I went and dug up all of them, and even watched all 14 (the 2 cartoon episodes that came packaged at some stores, and the Sing Along, for the heck of it ;) ) in the same weekend, and it was also the first one i saw in Spanish, as well as the first one i UNDERSTOOD (at least enough to get the story) in Spanish, I like Petrie's voice better in Spanish :P:
Let's hope this isn't the last one, although i find it odd none of them have grown in size at all really (just always confused me, did all this happen in a span of like 4 years?)
I dunno if this one is acceptable in my home state since the Microraptor species is obviously a link between the herps and the avians