The Gang of Five

The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: WeirdRaptor on November 19, 2004, 02:45:17 AM

Title: The possibility of reappearing villains.
Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 19, 2004, 02:45:17 AM
What do you think? Is it as possible for a villain to return as it is for a goood guest character to?
Title: The possibility of reappearing villains.
Post by: Threehorn on November 19, 2004, 06:57:47 AM
Maybe, if the dicectors remember them.

-Threehorn
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Post by: Malte279 on November 19, 2004, 07:34:15 AM
I think that the eggeaters Ozzy and Strut had a guest appearance in LBT 4. At least the two eggsnathers at the head of the column of eggsnatchers that jumps into that river in the land of mists look exactly like them.
I included Ozzy and Strut in my LBT story "The Cold Time", which I'm posting in the fanfiction section at the moment (but there are quite a few chapters to go before they will appear).
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Post by: Threehorn on November 19, 2004, 05:22:43 PM
LBT 2 you mean. Ozzy and Strut appear in that not LBT 4. that Icky and Dil that appear in LBT 4. the almost team working sharp beak and bellydragger.

-Threehorn
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Post by: Petrie on November 19, 2004, 05:41:47 PM
Where did those bullies go? :p  While they're not exactly "bad guys" they still must be young if Littlefoot and Co. still are.  :lol
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Post by: Threehorn on November 19, 2004, 06:54:33 PM
Can't disagree there. They seemed to just vanish into thin air.

-Threehorn
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Post by: Malte279 on November 19, 2004, 07:28:46 PM
Read my message more carefully Threehorn. I was writing a guestappearance Ozzy and Strut had in LBT 4. Originally they are from LBT 2 of course.
Title: The possibility of reappearing villains.
Post by: Threehorn on November 19, 2004, 08:03:53 PM
sorry, I just looked at the LBT 4 part at the end it.

-Threehorn
Title: The possibility of reappearing villains.
Post by: Nick22 on December 01, 2004, 09:48:19 PM
It is harder for villians to come back than good guys. I mean its harder to create a purpose for them to be in another film, after all the kids already beat them.
Nick
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Post by: Petrie on December 01, 2004, 10:03:33 PM
Technically they didn't beat the bullies...they can still come back. ;)  Same thing happened with Pterano...he could conceivably return. ;)
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Post by: Malte279 on December 02, 2004, 07:04:29 AM
Also, even if they did beat a villain (in the cases of the bullies and Pterano it is a disputable question whether or not they are to be considered villains) it would right away give a reason for the villains reappearance. Revengefulness.
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Post by: Petrie on December 02, 2004, 10:17:36 AM
Revenge makes for weak plots if you think about it though. ;)
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Post by: Malte279 on December 02, 2004, 10:39:32 AM
Of it's on it certainly does. Yet I didn't say that it was the only or the central topic of a story. Yet I could imagine something like this for a character like Ozzy, or Rinkus and Sierra.
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Post by: Nick22 on December 02, 2004, 10:42:36 AM
Revenge is a factor, but you could also have coincidence. The villian just happens to run into the gang.
Nick
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Post by: Malte279 on December 02, 2004, 10:55:50 AM
And revenge (especially in case of herbivore villains) would be the reason for the villain not to say "Hi!" and move on.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 02, 2004, 08:13:34 PM
Revenge is kind of the reason I think Chomper's parents did get Scrut and Ozzie, as Ozzie was very much a grudge holder. So I think they are very likely the two villains we will never see again.
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Post by: Petrie on December 02, 2004, 10:31:25 PM
^ Well, in that case Chomper's parents had a legit reason for attacking Ozzie and Strut (not so much revenge)...harming their little tyke. ;)

Coming back just to "get back at those kids" really is shallow unless there was some legit reason for wishing revenge.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 03, 2004, 03:23:25 AM
Well, if Ozzie was out to them over one egg, I think almost getting eaten by sharpteeth as the result as their most recent encounter would be enough to get Ozzie thinking overtime about who to get back at them.
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Post by: Malte279 on December 03, 2004, 05:13:43 AM
When I'm talking of revenge I don't really mean that Ozzy and Strut would take whatever efforts to get their revenge. But if they would come across Littlefoot and the others by chance I suppose the previous events would make them particularly nasty foes.
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Post by: Littlefoot1616 on December 03, 2004, 08:29:50 AM
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Revenge makes for weak plots if you think about it though
Hmm...can't agree with that statement Arvens!  :p  I liked KILL BILL and that was a pretty sharp plot! Anywho, Im actually quite surprised that Pterano isnt making a reappearance in the upcoming #12!!! I know he not technically a baddie but it's a shame he's not scheduled to come back...a real downer in my opinion!  :(
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Post by: Malte279 on December 03, 2004, 03:31:18 PM
I sure agree on that! After everything that happened (and with almost everyone hating and distrusting him) it may be very difficult for him to make his way back into "society". This is one part of my story "Old Threehorns", and it is really an interesting theme to deal with.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 03, 2004, 03:55:20 PM
"Revenge a weak plot"?! Ever bother with "The Count of Monte Cristo"? That was a great book and the recent adaptation featuring James Caviezel was excellent!

I wish Pterano would reappear. Stop avoiding the good, serious issues, Charles Grovner, or whatever the director's name is! These are good issues to go over and you should not dodge a serious issue everytime the potential for one is handed to you. Kids are not as frail and sensative as you think!
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Post by: Petrie on December 03, 2004, 05:47:11 PM
But America loves its good moral issues. ;)
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 03, 2004, 08:18:06 PM
Actually, America doesn't. A lot of people would love to think so, but America could care less. Only a select few truly care about moral issues.

"The Count of Monte Cristo" is not just about revenge, in the end, but revenge plays a big part of it. A man was cheated of his love and his freedom by his best friend and a dishonorable man who held a position in office. He sought revenge and found out it was not the way to be.

If any o fmy remarks came out as offensivee, Arvens, my apologize in advance, as that was not my intent.
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Post by: Petrie on December 04, 2004, 08:23:31 AM
I haven't seen a lot of old horror films or anything of that nature, so I don't know of that film.  :unsure:
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Post by: Malte279 on December 04, 2004, 08:53:35 AM
It is not a horror film, but almost sort of a classic story. Many movies have been made of it.
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Post by: Nick22 on December 06, 2004, 11:09:23 AM
It is a classic story of revenge, power and redemption. There was a TV miniseries made in France in the 80's with Gerard Depradieu as Edmond Dantes.  I love the book and I own a copy of it.
Nick
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Post by: Dr. Rex on January 23, 2018, 01:48:30 AM
Pretty old thread with an interesting premise. I think I'll participate.

Anyway, it would've been lovely and interesting if they brought back villains like Ozzy and Strut and Rinkus and Sierra for a movie. They brought back Chomper and his parents for LBT V, so they certainly know how to reuse previous guest characters. In fact, it'd be an awesome movie if these villains joined forces to get revenge against the gang for meddling in their plans! :D
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Post by: Sneak on January 23, 2018, 04:28:57 AM
wow.

Well, I would like to see meeting of grown Chomper with Ozzy and Strut. :3 (though I succesfully killed one of them... And some other villains too... Becasue original movie style.)
About others... only pre-story of Red Claw and fast biters, and their after-story end, of course. :D

And as you know already, I hope my favorite sharptooth is alive and walks somewhere... Thought wait, we already know he's not a villain. So - nope. :)
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Post by: Dr. Rex on January 23, 2018, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: Sneak on Jan 23 2018, 03:28:57 AM
wow.

Well, I would like to see meeting of grown Chomper with Ozzy and Strut. :3
Makes me wonder if he'd remember them, since he was a baby and all during that time.
Title: The possibility of reappearing villains.
Post by: Sneak on January 24, 2018, 04:35:14 AM
Quote from: Dr. Rex on Jan 23 2018, 08:06:56 PM
Quote from: Sneak on Jan 23 2018, 03:28:57 AM
wow.

Well, I would like to see meeting of grown Chomper with Ozzy and Strut. :3
Makes me wonder if he'd remember them, since he was a baby and all during that time.
since he recognized gang, he would recognize them too. Possibly. Well, if they would see him with gang, they would definitely recognize him.
Title: The possibility of reappearing villains.
Post by: Dr. Rex on January 24, 2018, 10:36:05 PM
Quote from: Sneak on Jan 24 2018, 03:35:14 AM
Quote from: Dr. Rex on Jan 23 2018, 08:06:56 PM
Quote from: Sneak on Jan 23 2018, 03:28:57 AM
wow.

Well, I would like to see meeting of grown Chomper with Ozzy and Strut. :3
Makes me wonder if he'd remember them, since he was a baby and all during that time.
since he recognized gang, he would recognize them too. Possibly. Well, if they would see him with gang, they would definitely recognize him.
Oh, that's true.