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Re: Is there anyone in LBT that you would call evil?
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2019, 02:53:26 AM »
Given that Chomper is a sharptooth, I actually understand and even sympathize with where Cera was coming from. She turned out to be wrong about him in the end, but still, I think it was a valid concern.

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Re: Is there anyone in LBT that you would call evil?
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2019, 10:13:41 PM »

Hmm, well Cera had moments that seemed considerably evil, like when she would tell Littlefoot in Episode 5, when she would pester him about being friends with Chomper and make fun of Chomper saying he would eat Littlefoot  :thinking

That doesn't even come close to evil honestly...it's just her being nervous about Chomper since he's a sharptooth like StardustSoldier said, and because it's in her nature to be a bit teasing at times, don't you think?

In fact, I feel like the original Sharptooth is a bit evil. He was chasing the children for food at first, and not even the killing of Littlefoot's mother would qualify as evil, only because it was in self-defense. But it's the sheer persistence of chasing the gang down and vengeance against Littlefoot is what strikes clear to me. I mean...they're just hatchlings? Why keep trying? If he really wanted food, try to find something better. And besides, he should give the longneck a break. After all, it was his rash and stupid decision to literally stick his head in a huge thorn bush on his quest for sustenance. Sigh...but I guess his instincts were in control and not his rationale. In my opinion, his ego of being the scariest and baddest sharptooth of all was hurt that day and took out that anger on the Gang of Five too. At this point, it's more of a speculation than anything, but it could be a possibility...


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Re: Is there anyone in LBT that you would call evil?
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2019, 12:53:45 PM »
Hmm, well Cera had moments that seemed considerably evil, like when she would tell Littlefoot in Episode 5, when she would pester him about being friends with Chomper and make fun of Chomper saying he would eat Littlefoot  :thinking
I can't believe I missed this thread for a while, but I would argue that Cera doesn't come off as evil, just mean-spirited at her worst moments. In the first film, she's definitely a foil to the extent of being an antagonist, but she isn't outright malicious more so confused. Just because one is actually counterinituitve to the situation does not make them evil, per-se, it's all about perspective and the big picture.

We are meant to view Sharpteeth as svil through the eyes of the Gang of Five. However, Chomper and his parents allowed us to have a more objective view of Sharpteeth considering, seeing them less as villians and more as simply meat eaters.
This as well. From a prey's point of view, sharpteeth are monsters, but as Chomper proved, this is also a two-dimensional theory. Thud wouldn't have done what he did in the TV series in that one episode if he was a complete monster, for instance. This pretty much discounts most, if not all sharpteeth, since by Circle of Life aesop propagated by the first movie implies that such chases are just the natural order of things, even if the gang must detest it and view sharpteeth as horrible enemies. Again, subjectively based on the lens/POV.

Definitely Ozzy, Rinkus, and Sierra as they are shown to have no qualms with killing for the sake of killing.
I'll probably join the consensus for this as well. Maybe less so Ozzy, as by the end of LBT2 the tormented eggstealer is completely and utterly frustrated to the point of snapping, but both Rinkus and Sierra gave off a very sinister vibe through their film even if the final payoff at the climax wasn't so cathartic.

...although some people from this forum hold the opinion that a certain smug green-eyed longneck from the TV series is the single most evil antagonist the series has ever produced. :P
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Re: Is there anyone in LBT that you would call evil?
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2019, 01:57:25 PM »
Given that Chomper is a sharptooth, I actually understand and even sympathize with where Cera was coming from. She turned out to be wrong about him in the end, but still, I think it was a valid concern.

One can also understand that the circumstances surrounding Littlefoot's mother's demise at the claws of the Sharptooth. Hereby the initial reaction of the gang concerning Chomper's birth was a rather rational one. Imagine yourself in their position after everything they encountered during their journey to the Great Valley and the ugly confrontation with Sharptooth definitely had an act in their rightly justified reaction of the baby sharptooth. Of course, all of those fears proved to be futile in the end, as we all know.

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I can't believe I missed this thread for a while, but I would argue that Cera doesn't come off as evil, just mean-spirited at her worst moments. In the first film, she's definitely a foil to the extent of being an antagonist, but she isn't outright malicious more so confused. Just because one is actually counterinituitve to the situation does not make them evil, per-se, it's all about perspective and the big picture.

The big picture in this one is that Cera was likely acting this way due to how she was raised by her parents, and by extension, her father. From the moment he appeared in the original film, I got the impression that he was essentially a xenophobe who saw other races as inferior to his own. It's likely that this viewpoint was eventually passed down to Cera and possibly even her sisters. Of course, none of this actually points out that Cera is evil by nature, and by the end of the film, a totally new side to her is shown that is willing to protect those she cares for.

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We are meant to view Sharpteeth as svil through the eyes of the Gang of Five. However, Chomper and his parents allowed us to have a more objective view of Sharpteeth considering, seeing them less as villians and more as simply meat eaters.

Same as with every being, they don't see themselves as the ''bad guys'', per say. But with sharpteeth, we have to remember that they are carnivores. Therefore, they must consume meat as nutrition in order to live. I like to reference what Don Bluth said about the Sharptooth, as that really points out the factuality of the character. If you haven't had a chance to read it, it's right here.

I guess what I'm trying to convey here is that not everything is as black and white as you might initially think. Life works in mysterious ways and is full of little mysteries. ;)