The Gang of Five
Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => Hobbies and Recreation => Gamers Zone => Topic started by: Tails_155 on August 09, 2007, 07:26:59 PM
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Anticipation of Brawl, and talk about your favorite characters, and what you liked/hated about the previous titles
I'll do a Fav character chart (A poll wouldn't have worked anyway, 2 games); by favorite character I mean most used, you may not be compatible with your favorite character's moveset after all :p
DR MARIO: 0
LUIGI: 0
MARIO: 0
BOWSER: 0
PEACH: 0
YOSHI: 2
DONKEY KONG: 0
CAPTAIN FALCON: 0
GANONDORF: 0
FALCO: 0
FOX: 1
NESS: 0
ICE CLIMBERS: 0
KIRBY: 2
SAMUS: 1
ZELDA: 0
SHEIK: 0
LINK: 1
YOUNG LINK: 0
PICHU: 1
PIKACHU: 1
JIGGLYPUFF: 0
MEWTWO: 0
MR. GAME AND WATCH: 0
MARTH: 1
ROY: 0
SUPER SMASH BROS ONLY:
LUIGI: 0
MARIO: 0
DONKEY KONG: 0
YOSHI: 2
CAPTAIN FALCON: 0
NESS: 0
FOX: 1
KIRBY: 2
SAMUS: 1
LINK: 1
PIKACHU: 2
JIGGLYPUFF: 0
Some of you who have said a character have given more than one, if you want to tally, please give your MOST USED character (in each game if it's different)
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Anticipation of Brawl, and talk about your favorite characters, and what you liked/hated about the previous titles
I don¥t know anything about this game :(
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I played super smash bro's for n64. I hated going against Ness the most. I dunno why. :unsure:
I could beat just about anyone on it. :D
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I own all that are out :D
I'm annoyingly good as Pichu XD I've never heard more people disappointed at someone beating them XD
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Never played it before in my life.
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Used to play it. Haven't touched the game in over a year so I'm probably good as nobody right about now. :lol I probably did the best as Pikachu, and then Ganondorf (even if he was very slow, he was hard to kill).
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My favorite is always Link. He just has so many moves that are very effective!
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I always liked Pikachu, Fox and Link in both games. I hope to play them in Smash brawl whenever I have the chance to play it.
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My favorite is always Link. He just has so many moves that are very effective!
He used to be my favorite character, now i play as falco for 1 vs. 1, and Ganondorf for free for all.
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[EDIT] whoops nvm.
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I have to wait next year before Brawl comes out. :(
Oh well....
Thanks to Smash Bros. on n64, i now know other nintendo characters.
I only knew Pika and Mario & Luigi. The other characters were totally unknown for me.
My favourite character would be Marth. Fast and effective. :^.^:
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EDIT: Since SOME people can't understand what an opinion is; THIS IS MY OPINION ON THE POPULARITY
from my study here's what I know (edit for simplification) BELIEVE about characters popularity:
DR MARIO: Not used by many, basically a slower version of Mario with a bit more knockback
LUIGI: Not used by many, a few setbacks that make him hard to use (His 'save' move is too vertical to help usually)
MARIO: Used moderately, the main mascot of Nintendo
BOWSER: Used infrequently, I don't know many people who can use slow characters well
PEACH: Used infrequently, not many people use Peach, although she has some of the most random, and potentially useful moves...
YOSHI: Used by few people, but usually very well by those people; Not having a "save" move really hurts popularity...
DONKEY KONG: Nearly unused, I don't know of many people who do or can play well as DK, unfortunately you'll never see another Kong on SSB because Rare was bought by Microsoft, so DK is the only one that Nintendo has full rights to
CAPTAIN FALCON: Almost totally unused, those that DO use him are usually good with him...
GANONDORF: Rarely used, I've only seen 2 people who use Ganondorf...
FALCO: My cousin's favorite, if used properly, can be VERY lethal
FOX: I like Foxes ^^; oh... wait... Fox is usually used less than Falco if Falco is unlocked, but can be more irritating and potentially difficult to beat
NESS: I know of like 1 person who uses Ness, his "save" move is very hard to use
ICE CLIMBERS: Probably the least used character on the list... I know of people who are fantastic with them though
KIRBY: A favorite character by some, I am not very good, but can use Kirby
SAMUS: Almost overused, popular among all classes of players, strong attacks, fairly fast, and good range
ZELDA: Less used than...
SHEIK: Used more than Zelda, unsure why, Zelda can be very effective, but Sheik is highly effective.
LINK: Overused, from here on, part of my description for this type of character is "has a sword," all 4 overused characters have swords, and while a couple have a range of abilities, I usually see the same 4 moves used
YOUNG LINK: Overused, has a sword, see Link, but with FIRE ARROWS! woo?
PICHU: My personal favorite, s/he lets me play as Pikachu, without playing as the character I so loathe... Used by a few people, usually people who are stunning at using the character, "easiest to throw off a ledge" lightest character, VERY fast, pretty strong, and even though he is light, I have played against VERY good players and survived up to 250% with no handicap/damage editing
PIKACHU: The character I am best with (other than Pichu,) the character I learned to play with, oddly, I have NEVER liked Pikachu when I've played Super Smash Bros, but the moveset suits me... The uses of this character are more frequent that its counterpart, and not always as proficient of a player, but can be used real well...
JIGGLYPUFF: Underused, I know of ONE person who uses Jigglypuff on a regular basis, and he is one of only 4 people to have beaten me on more than one occasion at Gamers' Club (we almost always play SSB:M at Gamers' Club)
MEWTWO: A character I can do well with, despite the characters' speed, not oft used, however can be used well
MR. GAME AND WATCH: My other favorite, so goofy, I enjoy them putting Gunpei Yokoi's (may he rest in peace) first 'character' in this game, one of the characters who you're not always sure what you're gonna get :D a fun character to mess around with, and not all that weak either! Great "save" move
MARTH: THE MOST OVERUSED, I am one of the only people I know who does not like Marth, I don't like Marth mainly because so many people do like him, I have had numerous 4 person matches where I'm the only non-Marth, has a sword, one of the few characters to be used so much I can't stand them...
ROY: Overused, but the least so of the "has a sword" category... I guess the "weaker" counterpart of Marth, a bit slower, perhaps equal knockback, and a charge attack that hurts him if not used right, but he has a fire sword!
SUPER SMASH BROS ONLY:
LUIGI: Fairly unused
MARIO: More oft used than Luigi
DONKEY KONG: Infrequent use
YOSHI: Used by a few people real well
CAPTAIN FALCON: Used by a few people
NESS: Not used much
FOX: Used infrequently
SAMUS: Most overused in the original SSB
LINK: Second most overused, has a sword
PIKACHU: The character I use the most
JIGGLYPUFF: Used specifically by the same player as before
RANT/INPUT OVER
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My personal single best character for both games would have to be Kirby, granted he can get knocked around rather easily, but his one 'saving' move is his ability to float thought the air.....that and a warp star helped every now and again... :lol:
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My personal favorite is Yoshi. I like speed more than power.
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My personal favorite is Yoshi. I like speed more than power.
I like Yoshi as well. Yoshi is probably my 3rd best character. One of the main reasons i never really liked him was his lack of triple jump, but i guess the egg toss will help him jump in Brawl.
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What I didn't like about Melee was that my favourite character, Mewtwo, sucked.
For the chart, my most used character is Fox in both games, and likely will be in Brawl.
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Oh how I love this series! I wish I had friends around here who would actually play it with me. :(
As for favorite characters (either game), I'm saying
#1: Samus
#2: Yoshi
#3: Pikachu
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Oh how I love this series! I wish I had friends around here who would actually play it with me. :(
LOL! Same thing at my place! :lol Actually, I only have Melee. I never got the original.
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LOL! Same thing at my place! Actually, I only have Melee. I never got the original.
I never owned the first one either. That was when i had to beg my mom to buy games for me :lol .
Oh how I love this series! I wish I had friends around here who would actually play it with me.
I have 2 older brothers so i always had someone to play against/with. Also, most of my friends play Smash, though most of them aren't that great (only 3 can beat a lvl 9 comp) but its still fun. We always used to have 3 of us team up on a lvl 9/ handicap 9 Ganondorf on Hyrule Temple with only 1 handicap each. :lol His weakest hit would kill us. :lol
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YAY HANDICAP FIGHTS
I like making ULTRA sudden death :p SSD everyones' handicap set to 1 (so environmental hazards are even more effective) and damage ratio to 2.0!
bombs and stuff on, you can be losing, not because of luck, but because you're laughing so hard you aren't paying attention... things fly so fast you don't know what's going on, all you know is that was NOT where you were standing, the best level for this is the Super Mario Bros 1 style level... you will bounce in directions that don't seem to make sense, you'll get thrown left, hit a brick and fly off the TOP of the screen... -shrugs-... it's true...
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html) heres a site with the latest updates... known characters so far.... -rant start-
Mario - expected
Link - expected - has a sword
Kirby - expected
Pikachu - expected - I hope they bring back Pichu, or at least have the same alt costumes...
Fox - expected
Samus - expected
Zelda - expected
Bowser - expected
Donkey Kong - expected
Yoshi - expected
Pit - ... REALLY? Pit? 1 game and now he's a celebrity?
Wario - Gimmick! We needed Family Guy humor for the series I guess?
PokÈmon Trainer - ...... WHY? Why not just have a pokÈball like the other games, and have EACH of these... I guess I'm judging too early, this may be revolutionary... but it just seems...hmm...
Zero Suit Samus - has a sword
Ike - has a sword
-current rant end-
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PokÈmon Trainer - ...... WHY? Why not just have a pokÈball like the other games, and have EACH of these... I guess I'm judging too early, this may be revolutionary
Those were my thoughts when i saw the Pokemon Trainer too. Its kinda cool though, being able to switch between 3 pokemon, also Charizard is in there and hes my favorite pokemon, even though i don't play or collect them anymore.
Zero Suit Samus - has a sword
I believe that on the old smashbros site they stated that it was a whip, but i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Tails' argument Translation:
The characters with swords are very popular and effective, but I don't like them that much, so I'll just say they're overused.
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not really, they truly are overused here, if I added in my local views to this chart there'd be about 30 Marths, 16 Links, a Young Link, a Jigglypuff, and a Falco...
and Zero Suit Samus, it was an aesthetic note, if it's a whip then I take it back XD
I personally wouldn't call them overused if there was ONE character I know of that wasn't in possession of a sword, who has a near-monopoly on the area, I would have thought there'd be more people to use Samus, but since there aren't, I can't level it...
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Something you should know, Tails155.
Peach is confirmed to be in it due to her showing in a recent trailer. Mediknight is confirmed from another trailer. Ness is confirmed due to the Franklin Badge coming forth. All of the last stated ones just don't have their final look done yet. :)
Kirby is still #1 choice for me. Go Kirby! :^.^:
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Yes! finally someone who agrees with me that Kirby is the #1 little creampuff you can fight with! ^_^ :DD
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not really, they truly are overused here, if I added in my local views to this chart there'd be about 30 Marths, 16 Links, a Young Link, a Jigglypuff, and a Falco...
Who cares? You, personally, aren't that crazy about them, so you just take out your frustration on their popularity on us! We can't help that all of Link's moves are so effective!
and Zero Suit Samus, it was an aesthetic note, if it's a whip then I take it back XD
Take it back, anyway.
I personally wouldn't call them overused if there was ONE character I know of that wasn't in possession of a sword, who has a near-monopoly on the area, I would have thought there'd be more people to use Samus, but since there aren't, I can't level it...
Um, Mario. Just about everyone loves playing as Mario. And who cares if players like characters who use swords? It doesn't impact you. The games sell, and you have the SSB games to play. Period. Stop bitching over things you don't understand.
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dude! I'm not dueling, and to me it's important, so if it's complaining, it's complaining, a statement is a statement if you don't agree, then don't I'll continue to think and say what I think and say, I won't "take it somewhere else" as it were, because this is the proper section for it, there's nothing wrong with liking an overused character... it's just an overused character, I don't know anyone locally who uses Mario for much other than to not play the same character 200 times in a row, and usually that's if that's what the random deals them...
there's nothing wrong with swords either, I think they're nice decoration for rooms, however it's just a trend, all the characters with swords are highly used, don't get mad at me because I say that, I'm not getting mad at you because it's true!
and if you'll notice, the only actual 'negative' comment I made is I'm tired of seeing Marth used so much, I didn't say any of them were crappy characters or anything along that line, I just said they're overused
And don't attack ME just because I am bothered by it, and I do understand, it's not only the looks that make someone choose a character, however, they play an initial role, do they not? However, not everyone goes for aesthetics either I'd imagine and to those people, congratulations on overcoming subconscious discrimination! The moveset is just as important, it's why certain characters are unpopular, and I know this, as stated by someone else, their favorite character's moveset is bad, so they don't use them, I'm not saying DON'T use them, I'm saying they are used, in my opinion, too much
There are roughly 15250 different possible character combinations between 2 and 4 players, and I don't enjoy seeing the same 15-20 matches over and over
on the above note, by no means am I saying I choose a different character all the time either, it's my fault just as much
the only thing that truly annoys me all the time is items being off all the time, I am fine with shutting off certain ones for a couple matches, or even all for a couple, but people complaining that items are "unfair" really irritates me, how can they be unfair? they're available to everyone, and they can cause the same advantage and problem with each player! that's my only true angry rant.
Everyone has different preferences, just because I take the time to voice mine does NOT mean that I am bad, you can voice yours too, it's your choice, if you say "Pichu sucks" that's your opinion if you say "I hate items" that's your preference, if you say "Marth is underused" that's your opinion; just as much, I can say "Marth is overused" and I have the freedom to do so, I'm not hurting you, I'm not calling you names, I'm not even directly targeting anyone! Just a digital image on a screen with a moveset that doesn't change, just like all the other video game characters ever, the only changes are between games
now, if YOU want to express your opinions about the game, go right ahead, no one is stopping you...
this got a lot longer than I originally intended, sorry for the reading :p
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dude! I'm not dueling, and to me it's important, so if it's complaining, it's complaining, a statement is a statement if you don't agree, then don't I'll continue to think and say what I think and say, I won't "take it somewhere else" as it were, because this is the proper section for it, there's nothing wrong with liking an overused character... it's just an overused character, I don't know anyone locally who uses Mario for much other than to not play the same character 200 times in a row, and usually that's if that's what the random deals them...
There is no such thing as an overused character in a game. Its not our fault that Link is a very powerful, effective, and virsatile chararacter.
there's nothing wrong with swords either, I think they're nice decoration for rooms, however it's just a trend, all the characters with swords are highly used, don't get mad at me because I say that, I'm not getting mad at you because it's true!
If swords were just a trend, then the fantasy genre would be in big trouble.
and if you'll notice, the only actual 'negative' comment I made is I'm tired of seeing Marth used so much, I didn't say any of them were crappy characters or anything along that line, I just said they're overused
No, you think they're overused because they are used a lot because they are very powerful, effective and cool characters.
And don't attack ME just because I am bothered by it, and I do understand, it's not only the looks that make someone choose a character, however, they play an initial role, do they not? However, not everyone goes for aesthetics either I'd imagine and to those people, congratulations on overcoming subconscious discrimination! The moveset is just as important, it's why certain characters are unpopular, and I know this, as stated by someone else, their favorite character's moveset is bad, so they don't use them, I'm not saying DON'T use them, I'm saying they are used, in my opinion, too much
I'm bothered that you are bothered by someone else's choice of playing style for a game.
There are roughly 15250 different possible character combinations between 2 and 4 players, and I don't enjoy seeing the same 15-20 matches over and over
Then watch something else.
on the above note, by no means am I saying I choose a different character all the time either, it's my fault just as much
Then don't be a hypocrite.
the only thing that truly annoys me all the time is items being off all the time, I am fine with shutting off certain ones for a couple matches, or even all for a couple, but people complaining that items are "unfair" really irritates me, how can they be unfair? they're available to everyone, and they can cause the same advantage and problem with each player! that's my only true angry rant.
Then bitch about that, instead.
Everyone has different preferences, just because I take the time to voice mine does NOT mean that I am bad, you can voice yours too, it's your choice, if you say "Pichu sucks" that's your opinion if you say "I hate items" that's your preference, if you say "Marth is underused" that's your opinion; just as much, I can say "Marth is overused" and I have the freedom to do so, I'm not hurting you, I'm not calling you names, I'm not even directly targeting anyone! Just a digital image on a screen with a moveset that doesn't change, just like all the other video game characters ever, the only changes are between games
Fine.
now, if YOU want to express your opinions about the game, go right ahead, no one is stopping you...
Iknow.
this got a lot longer than I originally intended, sorry for the reading
No problem.
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don't you DARE castigate me on my opinions, forums are a place to talk about your opinions, and sometimes problems, now I'll admit, I am whiny about this game, but it's no more my friends' fault than mine either, and I know that! however, it's not wrong to say what I've said, if you don't like my complaints, then don't read my posts! no sit down and shut up as it were, I have nothing more to complain about, so don't you worry your little head any longer
-by trend, which is poor word choice, I meant popular (chartwise, a trend is a pattern on a graph, so that's more what I was relating, I realize now that trend more easily means 'fad')
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You do realize neither of you are innocent in the fact you both provoke the other to respond in a less friendly manner. You do realize this is a game. I'd be pleased to see healthy debate on serious issues, but you're bickering over a game. A fantasy. A thing meant for fun, not another reason to start complaining and saying "don't you dare" or "bitch about that instead" to create anger and repercussion.
How ironic SSBM is a fighting game. :rolleyes:
You two need to cool it.
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How ironic SSBM is a fighting game. :rolleyes:
I thought the same thing when I read the first reply :p
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Peach's final look came through for Brawl, and she looks pretty darn good in her dress now. :^.^:
Peach holds the same tricks she did in Melee. So not much else has changed. :)
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So, who all would everyone like to see in a SSM game someday?
I'd list my choices, but I'd likely just provoke the complaints of the almighty tails.
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Let's not fight anymore, okay? This is a thread about a fighting game, not a fight in this thread.
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Hmm...I would be happier if M2 was heavier so he wasn't so easy to kill. :p
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In a real fight, Samus might be able to own Mewtwo, but Pikachu would have a lot of problems. As well as Mario, Fox, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Captain Falcon, Yoshi, the Ice Climbers, Link....
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I was more thinking along the lines of of characters you'd like to see apear.
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I was more thinking along the lines of of characters you'd like to see apear.
Without a doubt, Sonic. Ever since Snake was announced for the game it opened a window of opportunity. I think I heard that players in Japan were asked to vote on which character they would want to see in Brawl, and most people choose Sonic. I just hope Sega will let them use Sonic. I mean, Sonic and Mario are already going to be in a game together, so I think Sonic should get a spot in Brawl. Just imagine, Mario vs. Sonic.
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I'd like to see Mario beat up Sonic with a "Mario hammer". If you don't know what one is, then you have no business calling yourself a Nintendo fan. :lol:
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Speaking of KingdomKeys, I'd kind of like to see Sora from the "Kingdom Hearts" games in a SSB game. Sora and Sonic vs. Mario and Link! The battle royale we've all been waiting for! Oh yeah, Sonic would be a great addition, especially with unlockable Tails and Knuckles!
While we're at it, Lloyd Irving from "Tales of Symphonia" would be a fun addition, too.
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Sora and Sonic vs. Mario and Link! The battle royale we've all been waiting for!
That would be an awesome battle! Sora and Link duking it out, whilst two Game icons battle, oh man I wish SSB would put 'em in! :D
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While I've never been a Final Fantasy/Kingdom Hearts fan, it would certainly be nice to see a more diverse group of characters. However, this would be turning from the Nintendo roots of the Super Smash Bros. Games of old. However, would this be a bad thing or a good thing? I think it could be overdone, but I wouldn't object to seeing a more diverse group of fighters (i.e., Sora from Kingdom Hearts).
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Here's a funny little idea that popped into my head. I think it would be hilarious if Calvin & Hobbes were in it, that is, if Bill Watterson approved (which there would be as much a chance as a snowball in hell)
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I guess this means the general consensus is that Super Smash Bros. Brawl should be an all-invitations-accepted free-for-all.
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In all honesty, Manny, going beyond the Nintendo borders isn't avoidable. If they want to keep the franchise going, new characters in every game will be a necessity, and Nintendo only has so many icons to scratch out of retirement before they have to expand to third-person characters.
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Then I guess sooner or later, we're bound to see Master Chief, Flynn Taggart, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Diddy Kong, Darth Vader, Toad, K. Rool, Tony Hawk, Sonic, Eggman, Luke Skywalker, Dr. Wright, ..., and Spiderman in a Smash Bros. game.
Nintendo isn't exactly hurting for characters from their own games. They may have to start seriously digging in the 3rd party poll sometime in the future, but this could be years from now. It's bound to happen eventually, but that eventually may not come some time from now. Or, they may just opt to go ahead and get as many 3rd party characters as they can.
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Heres (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2658395303467401618) a little video of my friend (Fox) and I (Falco) fighting in SSBM. All we had was a digital camera to record so the quality isn't too great. Also, you'll hear us pounding away on the buttons and joypad but to let you know, we are not button mashing.
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Then I guess sooner or later, we're bound to see Master Chief, Flynn Taggart, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Diddy Kong, Darth Vader, Toad, K. Rool, Tony Hawk, Sonic, Eggman, Luke Skywalker, Dr. Wright, ..., and Spiderman in a Smash Bros. game.
Nintendo isn't exactly hurting for characters from their own games. They may have to start seriously digging in the 3rd party poll sometime in the future, but this could be years from now. It's bound to happen eventually, but that eventually may not come some time from now. Or, they may just opt to go ahead and get as many 3rd party characters as they can.
What's the most talked about piece on SSBB? Who's going to be in it (or who's going to be removed)? If I was Nintendo I'd look over my roster too and see what other game icons are out there which could conceivably work in the game. The talk isn't really all about moves and what items they could use, its WHO you can play as. They'd be foolish not to look at 3rd party while people are highly interested.
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I'm happy to say that Diddy Kong will be in SSB:B
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(http://ssbm.detstar.com/submitted/characters_cranky_geno.jpg)
The future of Super Smash Bros. Do not deny it....
EDIT: Ah, yes. I heard about that. Good that Diddy is getting involved in more activities.
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I, however, wonder how they got the rights from Rareware... who technically owns part of the copyrights...
(aww, I lost my Ducky icon :()
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BUMPing this topic, in a big way.
ONLINE PLAY CONFIRMED
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html)
I expect friend codes when the game comes out.
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Manny Cav, I can confirm to you that the list you hold is a lie.
For starters, it doesn't hold Pit, Meta Knight, Kirby, Solid Snake, and a few others, all of which have been confirmed by the official website, in one way or another, to make the final cut.
Second, I know for a fact that, in an earlier issue of Nintendo Power, Nintendo promised us 50+ charcters to make the final cut, and you only hold 33.
Finally, there are a number of them, (Pidget, Goomba, etc.) that would not only be rather bad choices to have as fighters, but would also more than likely hinder the wonderful franchise known as Super Smash Bros.
Sorry Manny, but there's NO way I'm believing that one. :D
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Hahaha, pokeplayer984, that was a joke image. Anyone who is gullible enough to believe it really doesn't deserve their title as an Nintendo fan. :D
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Oh, yeah!
Today's update of SSB Dojo is the best.
Online playing confirmed. :lol:
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Bring it on! Me and Kirby are ready to kick butt! :^.^:
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I got my Wii, so Bring it on! :D LOL
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Oh, yeah!
Today's update of SSB Dojo is the best.
Online playing confirmed. :lol:
It has been?
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http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi01.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi01.html)
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I can't wait, either!
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neither can I, unfortunatley my best character, Faloc, is either gonna get the boot, or a different move set so i'm probably going to have to learn to play as someone else. So far, i think i like Pit and Zero Suit Samus the best.
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You guys are going to have all sorts of fun when this comes out. I'm still am a bit curious on confirmed pokemon though I've given up just about all hope of ever playing this.
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You guys are going to have all sorts of fun when this comes out. I'm still am a bit curious on confirmed pokemon though I've given up just about all hope of ever playing this.
Well, uh... I don't really know what you're exactly getting at, but I know that Pikachu is confirmed, as is the PokÈmon trainer, who can call out wither Charizard, Ivysaur, or Squirtle out of a PokÈball. I don't know exactly how it works, but I hear that it's a hoot!
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Well, uh... I don't really know what you're exactly getting at, but I know that Pikachu is confirmed, as is the PokÈmon trainer, who can call out wither Charizard, Ivysaur, or Squirtle out of a PokÈball. I don't know exactly how it works, but I hear that it's a hoot!
From what the SSBB Dojo is saying, you rotate between the trainers 3 pokemon but they all share the same damage meter. Also, something about a stamina effect whereby if you overuse one pokemon, it can tire and it's attacks become weaker/ineffective...or something close to that. Therefore, it encourages you to use all of the pokemon evenly rather than leading with one all the time.
I liked the concept of how Zero Suit Samus emerges. Apparently, by using these new "Smash Balls" to unleash your characters ultimate attack, Samus's one overloads her suit and it falls off her...thus leaving you with "Zero Suit Samus". Not sure exactly if she'll be a selectable character from the start (as in on the character select screen). Maybe they might do the thing they did for Zelda/Shiek. If you hold the A button before the match starts with Zelda, you can sub-in as Shiek instantly rather than transforming from one to the other.
Snake's the one I'm most curious about. Someone I wouldn't have thought to star in such a particularly-styled game to make such an appearance is great! I can imagine the people's shock at the E3 presentation when they saw that clip of him jumping out of the cardboard box. :DD Looks like they are staying very true to his movements. The P-P-K combo, rolling into crawl postion, using the stinger...can't wait!
Bet all American gamers who are into this are ecstatic about the given release date! Early Dec I've read (Lucky sods :lol ) Just in time for Xmas. Guess we've gotta sit and wait til about Jan or early '08!
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SONIC THE HEDGEHOG CONFIRMED; RELEASE DATE NOW "TBD"
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html)
Kickass news and potentially tear-inducing news. But for now, just check out the videos. They're AWESOME.
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ah dang, i thought i was going to be the first one to post it, oh well. Haven't seen the videos yet though because i'm in a rush to get to school now.
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I've been waiting to hear this.... This game will rock.
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Yes!!
"Sonic's the name, speed's my game!"
I've been waiting for this! Sonic's finally going to show what he's made of in Brawl! The legendary clash between Mario and Sonic can finally happen!
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One of the best updates eva. :lol:
Also, Lyn confirmed too. =D
I just saw one of the movies and she appeared.
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Even after a few hours of learning about this unbelieveable update, I'm still not believing it. You know that feeling, right? :)
Sonic will definately become one of my top choices to battle with, as well as Kirby and Snake. Now who shall I pick for a final selection? :)
I seriously can't wait for this now. :^.^:
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One of the best updates eva. :lol:
Also, Lyn confirmed too. =D
I just saw one of the movies and she appeared.
Lyn is an Assist Trophy.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist07.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist07.html)
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For all Sonic fans we were expecting this! Not only Snake will make a special appearence there, but Sonic will do! Me & my bro are so gonna love this! :D
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Aw, you beat me to it! XD Heheheh, no problem. This is AWESOME! Sonic's in Brawl! Yes!
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this may shock you, but I feared this happening... now Sega's gonna take the game over if I figure correctly... I really didn't want Sonic in Brawl, there's very few ways for them to compensate to me...
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My anticipations for this game have been raised substantially.
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One of the best updates eva. :lol:
Also, Lyn confirmed too. =D
I just saw one of the movies and she appeared.
Lyn is an Assist Trophy.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist07.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist07.html)
Oops. :P:
Haven't seen that update (cause I don't want to be spoiled). :P:
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I think we all had an inkling that if there was ever to be another 3rd party character hitting Brawl it would have been Sonic. Since our famed blue-blur hasn't had a console to call his own since Sega quit their hardware production lines, it's kinda not surprising that he's made a guest appearance! ;) Seeing how Sonic tends to be kinda close to the current string of Nintendo consoles (GC, DS and Wii) I guess it was only a matter of time before we saw him again.
Still...WICKID! Sonic's on Brawl!!! Woo HOO!!! :D This is only adding to my angst to want to own this game!! It's great to hear that they've stayed true to Sonic's hertiage by including his original sound effects for things like his jump and the spring! Damn Ninty of Europe of delaying our launch till after Xmas! :bang Still...good things come to those who wait... :^.^:
*mumbles* who ever came up with that saying obviously didn't know about this game :DD
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Wow I found out we have a pokÈmon trainer as well who stands on the side lines and send out one of three pokemon to battle for him, he issuing commands and they do as he orders. It amazing to see them take brawl so far. this is a must have game!!!
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EDIT: Double post.
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Super Smash Bros. Brawl shipping date to the United States of America pushed back to February 10, 2008 (http://kotaku.com/gaming/holidays-ruined/super-smash-bros-brawl-delayed-to-2008-in-us-309764.php).
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2 months isn't all that bad considering Twilight Princess's 2 year delay to make it better the Ocarina of Time.
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To quote Tristan from Yu-Gi-Oh: The Abridged Series. "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!" XD Ah, well. A great game like this shouldn't be rushed anyways. I'll probably reserve it for the holidays then when I get a Wii in November.
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Adam Sessler hates this kind of thing, so do I, but I'm not as worried since this game isn't showing itself as a spectacular game, just _another_ Smash Bros...
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I'm personally very excited for this game. It looks to be light-years away from Melee, not "just another Smash Bros.".
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I'm just bothered by several decisions made, and I personally thing a release date announcement should only be made if it is definitely not going to be changed, don't make a release date until a game is actually ready for release
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Yes, I'm slightly annoyed by that, too, but it shouldn't harm the quality of the game. I believe that Shigeru Miyamoto once said, "A delayed game is good eventually, a bad game is bad forever.". After all I don't even have a Wii yet, but I'm planning on ending that soon. :lol:
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Any delay is bad news for me. Given that some of the big Wii games (Super Paper Mario, Metroid Prime 3) aren't reaching this side of the atlantic for literally months after their american releases, Brawl might not be out here until next summer.
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I heard that the date has been pushed back to Feb. 10th, so it won't be out before Christmas...but it should still be a good game none-the-less!
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I heard that the date has been pushed back to Feb. 10th, so it won't be out before Christmas...but it should still be a good game none-the-less!
Yes, you most likely heard it from me on page 4. :lol
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I heard that the date has been pushed back to Feb. 10th, so it won't be out before Christmas...but it should still be a good game none-the-less!
Yes, you most likely heard it from me on page 4. :lol
Actually I only heard about it yesterday on Gametrailers.com
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HAY GUYS, GuESS WAT!
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/info/info03.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/info/info03.html)
I'mma goin' to E for All. Aw yeah. This Saturday and Sunday, I'll be playin' Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Expect exclusive videos and pictures, as well as some full movelists :D
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LA Only, one of my least favorite statements, but it's so common -.- only people in New York, LA, Tokyo, London, and Paris are important apparently...
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Also Hollywood.
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That's a pain to hear the delay but I guess that they are lookng to invest a lo more detail into the content. Which will be interesting. For anyone interested, Gamespot have a feature with a guy giving a demo and explanation of how Brawl is played. It shows the use of the Final Smash Ball and has gameplay footage of the newly announced Sonic in action.
Check it out! Link's below (excuse the pun! :P: )
SSBB Gameplay demo - Gamespot (http://uk.gamespot.com/video/928518/6180852/videoplayerpop)?
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New character confirmed for Super Smash Bros. Brawl that will appeal to Kirby fans (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html) (points at pokeplayer984 :D ).
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Hey, guys! The Smash Bros Dojo updated something I think everyone is going to love!
(In a voice over guy doing an infomercial) Do you find the stages in Super Smash Brawl to be lame? Think you can make a better stage than the creators? Well now you can with the all new Build Your Own Stage feature in Super Smash Brothers Brawl!
I kid you not! Go to the website! This is probably one of the greatest features Brawl has to offer. You can custom craft your own stages, share them with friends, and send them to Nintendo themselves to look at it, and they will send you a random one once a day. Get over to the Smash Brothers Dojo for more info!
This game is gonna be awesome!
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B) :birthday :wub: :DD :^.^: :yes :wave :D ;) :mellow: is all I have to say about that.
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Hmm, forgot to post the update here. Ah, well. At leaast someone did.
By the way, as if it wasn't already obvious, this officially makes Super Smash Bros Brawl
GAME OF THE ETERNITY
Am I right?
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I've always loved games that include map editors so when Brawl comes out, im gonna be making so many levels. I don't think i will ever tire of playing this game.
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-to keep from boring you with all my complaints- I'm extremely pessimistic about this game
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Why?
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I don't wanna get started, it'd come out as whining, I'll just say I'm not satisfied with some of the choices they've made
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I have never played SSB before in my life, so I really don't see any problem thus far.
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I'm very optimistic about this game, and while I wonder what "bad choices" Tails_155 is talking about, he's convinced that telling anything more might cause trouble, so it's probably for the best that we just skip past that.
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Just ignore Tails. I know I do.
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I don't wanna get started, it'd come out as whining, I'll just say I'm not satisfied with some of the choices they've made
Everyone's entitled to their opinions Tails and feel free to express them! Of course, try not to be overzealous with what you say, take others into consideration but say what's on your mind. That's what the forum is about :) People can only agree or disagree with you and who knows, it might be an interesting point of discussion ;) Not everything is gonna appeal to everyone coz everyone's tastes are different. There are always ups and downs to a subject so (having heard a lot of the ups) let's hear what you reckon are some of the low-points. ;)
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Just ignore Tails. I know I do.
I actually want to know what he's talking about (without getting a good "whining", of course :P: ). I don't think I'd be bored by hearing what he has to say.
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Hello, we already heard his bitching and whining. He hates the characters who wield swords, and they just added more for this game.
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Well, he doesn't like characters with swords. What's wrong with that? We all have our own tastes and preferences.
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not about swords, just its predictability, I mean, for the masses it's alright, but I was hoping for more...
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I just love how Tails puts in a sutbly implied insult to the rest of us here. I couldn't care less about what Tails likes as long as he keeps it to himself after informing us of it once. Once is enough. He thinks the game (a fighting game) will be too predictible if they keep adding characters with swords, which is dead wrong, by the way.
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I just love how Tails puts in a sutbly implied insult to the rest of us here.
I didn't ever notice Tails_155's insult.... Anyway, I think this topic has took a left turn with the insults and stuff, so let's get this thing back on track.
How does everybody feel on the possibility of Krystal from Star Fox appearing in the game, or even being playable?
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I just love how Tails puts in a sutbly implied insult to the rest of us here. I couldn't care less about what Tails likes as long as he keeps it to himself after informing us of it once. Once is enough. He thinks the game (a fighting game) will be too predictible if they keep adding characters with swords, which is dead wrong, by the way.
I saw no insult in Tails' post. And I don't get what you mean by "dead wrong". It was just an opinion, not some fact that can be disproven.
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And I don't get what you mean by "dead wrong". It was just an opinion, not some fact that can be disproven.
I agree. An opinion is an opinion, not a fact.
Anyway, I think this topic has took a left turn with the insults and stuff, so let's get this thing back on track.
I also agree with Manny. Continuing on...
How does everybody feel on the possibility of Krystal from Star Fox appearing in the game, or even being playable?
I'm indifferent towards most Star Fox characters. I'm not a huge Star Fox fan...mainly I'm just surpised which characters Nintendo HAS chosen to be in Brawl..seems like an odd list to me.
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How does everybody feel on the possibility of Krystal from Star Fox appearing in the game, or even being playable?
I'm indifferent towards most Star Fox characters. I'm not a huge Star Fox fan...mainly I'm just surpised which characters Nintendo HAS chosen to be in Brawl..seems like an odd list to me.
An odd list? Yes. However, the odd list adds variety to the game/franchise. I think it will make it all the more better.
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You mean his little remark "it may be alright for the masses" went right over your heads? Come on, he just insulted everyone else! Anyway, having Krystal would be a nice touch.
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I tried.
Anyway, there's no sense in keeping y'all in the dark. This (http://arwinglanding.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=742af03c593fd94878eb444b4bf08a6b&topic=12003.0) is where I've been getting this.
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LOL! I remember seeing that at the Vglan fourms. There might be a strong chance to see Krystal. I don't know if she will play a part in a cutscene, be an AT, or become a smasher all together. One reason I have is a strong feeling is that not too long after that was put up it was taken right down. That makes you wonder, doesn't it? I am a big fan of Star Fox, so I do hope she shows up in the game. I don't know about the rest of you, but I look forward to it. ^^
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I'm a Star Fox fan, too. :D I would very much enjoy seeing her as a smasher. In any case, anything is better than nothing. :DD
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WR... I've yet to figure out this fixation you have with starting trouble where it's not needed... but all I'm saying is that I don't like the calls they've made, if they work for sales that's great, I just don't like where it's going MYSELF, not you, not Manny, not Petrie, not Action, MYSELF, I didn't even want to elaborate, someone asked me to
I stated I didn't want to elaborate, but if I hadn't I'd've been asked to elaborate all the same I figure... because "I'm not happy with it" would've queued a "why?"
it's my opinion, I'm not saying I'm smarter, I'm saying I don't like characters others happen to... now grow up and stop trying to start something!
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This is why I thought it best for Tails_155 not to elaborate. I knew someone out there would complain about Tails_155's opinions and criticize them heavily. I personally found no insult against me or anyone else in Tails_155's statements.
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he complained before I even elaborated though that's where I have the problem
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Alright, let's please get this topic off of the warpath. I don't want it locked or someone in trouble.
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Same here. I don't want a dispute to errupt because of this. :(
Anyways, I'm glad to hear your a big Star Fox fan, too, MC. Guess that puts on the same page. However, the recent updates at the dojo cannot compare to the Stage Builder! That is going to pwn..well next to the online play that is. Also, Keni and I have been talking, and I've been thinking that depending on how many Wii/Smashers we got here at the GOF we could have little fun Smash Brothers Tournaments here. What do you think? ^^
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It all depends on if the Nintendo Wii can connect to the internet on dial-up, since the Wii (when I actually get one) will only be in one of two places, neither of which are anywhere close to an alternative internet connection other than dial-up.
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I think Krystal would be a great Star Fox smash character. Shes probably the most varied among them in the use of her staff.
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It all depends on if the Nintendo Wii can connect to the internet on dial-up, since the Wii (when I actually get one) will only be in one of two places, neither of which are anywhere close to an alternative internet connection other than dial-up.
The Wii is actually designed to work with the popular Broadband Wireless. However, for those who are still running on dail-up, there is a special Lan Adapter you can get to make it work. :)
So yeah, you'd better also invest in that Lan Adapter. :D
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Hmm... if I used it on dial-up, would I still be able to battle with 3 other players, or are there certain limitations, like I can only battle with 1 other, or someone else on dial-up?
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Hmm... if I used it on dial-up, would I still be able to battle with 3 other players, or are there certain limitations, like I can only battle with 1 other, or someone else on dial-up?
That sort of thing can't be confirmed until the game comes out, which won't be for several months. So until then, I really can't give you an honest answer. ^_^
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I don't think dial up is fast enough to handle three simultaneous connections like that, at least definitely not in real time. You really are going to need broadband for it to work properly. Maybe one on one you *might* be able to get away with, but not more. Its a limitation of data transfer that will bite in the end.
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if you'd like a list I can PM you Manny, so as not to irritate others -.-
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I don't think dial up is fast enough to handle three simultaneous connections like that, at least definitely not in real time. You really are going to need broadband for it to work properly. Maybe one on one you *might* be able to get away with, but not more. Its a limitation of data transfer that will bite in the end.
I do have a broadband connection, but I'm not sure what my parents would think of me pulling something like that on them. I guess I would need a router setup? And could I use dial-up to do basic stuff like surf the net or download firmware and stuff?
And, Tails_155, it's not a big deal. You don't have to PM me anything. B)
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heh, in short I'm just picky.. that's all
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I do have a broadband connection, but I'm not sure what my parents would think of me pulling something like that on them. I guess I would need a router setup? And could I use dial-up to do basic stuff like surf the net or download firmware and stuff?
Hm, there is an easy way to work with Broadband and the Nintendo Wii. There's a device known as the Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector. How it works is that you take this small UBS drive and plug it into the computer that has the Broadband connection, and the Wii should automatically detect it. More info on it is here. (http://www.answers.com/topic/nintendo-wi-fi-usb-connector)
I hope that helps because it's really easy to work with, and requires no tinkering with the Broadband connection. Just plug it into the host computer. The only downside is that it only works for a Windows XP. I hope that helps. :)
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The broadband connection is on a Windows Vista computer, and the computer on dial-up is my main laptop with Windows XP.
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I'm not trying to start something. I just say your implied insult for what it was. You may try to hide that it was an insult, but I know it was. You wouldn't even have made a remark like "it might be okay for the masses" if you weren't implying anything about the rest of us. I firmly believe that.
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Dear gosh, WeirdRarptor, it's not a big deal at all. I don't think Tails_155 meant to insult anyone, or really even did insult anyone, for that matter. I'm seeing Tails_155 himself insulted more than anyone else.
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I have to agree with Manny. Nothing Tails said looked even remotely like an insult. All I'm seeing is Tails being insulted just for stating an opinion.
Anyway, can we please drop this and go back to the original subject? I don't want this topic to be closed.
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I would NEVER imply I above anyone... that's arrogant beyond anything I've ever heard... if it came off as an insult then fine... I'll just stop replying to this... or any other thread... because apparently I'm not worth the words I type... goodbye
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Anyway, can we please drop this and go back to the original subject? I don't want this topic to be closed.
I think this is the 3rd or 4th time we've tried to get the topic back going before someone brought 'that' up again, but we can try one more time, I guess.
And, Tails_155, please don't leave just because one member here decides to butcher your words and insult you.
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Please stay, Tails.
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I must've missed something...but I'm gonna step around that by typing this:
I wish I had a Wii, but sadly I don't...but my best friend down the street from me does!!!! So I may be able to play on the weekends!
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My advice to you would be to get one. Its worth it, if you're a gamer. Have you been able to play the one your friend has?
Manny, I did not butcher his words. Nine times out of ten when someone says something like "it may okay for the masses", there is almost always a condenscending tone and a meaning that implies: "I'm better" to go with it. My response to Tails was based on just about every personal encounter I've ever had with that phrase. I apologize if I was wrong about that comment for a change. If that's not what you meant, then I'm sorry.
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I think that Tails_155 just meant that he was among the minortiy of people that didn't like a lot of sword-bearing characters in the game(s). According to his most recent post, he didn't mean it like you thought, at all.
If it's any consolation, I've gave the wrong impression like that with my posts many times before. It just happens.
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apology accepted - I believe that hypocrisy is one of the most peculiar and despicable traits a human can hold... back on topic
I don't hate everything about it, I mean the map maker can be great... but I just personally would rather have one real good pre-made map instead of a map maker that has major limits, I would REALLY like to see online expandability for the game myself... addons you could buy with Wii points, because then they could make the game unlimited!
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Isn't the game going to have several pre-made maps? Neither prior Smash game has went without them....
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oh I know that, but I just mean map makers take away from the pre-made possible map selections
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The way it seems to appear from the preview clips on the Dojo site, you just pretty much mix and match what you want in terms of shape of stage, music, hazards, theme etc. I'm guessing it's pretty much just gonna be you (as a player/creator), adapting a level to your own twisted pleasures. Map makers have always seemed to be a good addition in the past, particularly with FPS's (1st person shooters) and those who are interested tend to praise their abilities. Personally, map mods have never really appealed to me (probably coz I'm just j'amn arse lazy :lol ) but I reckon it's a cool feature to have just in case. ;)
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even FPS map makers have been very limited... my maps I've made on my fav FPS have all ended up as just.... rooms with guns.... that's about all there is available...
me and my off-topickyness.. lol
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I've been offline the last couple of days due to work and technical difficulties (internet was behaving...badly). I'm glad to hear that everything was resolved nicely here and that Tails didn't need to run off on us. B)
Personally, map mods have never really appealed to me (probably coz I'm just j'amn arse lazy ) but I reckon it's a cool feature to have just in case.
I quite like the idea of map editors for the sake of extending the replayability of the game and for adding personal touches to the experience. I enjoy making maps/levels to games but I usually don't have time to learn the editor for an intricate game like a FPS. I wanted to make an Unreal Tournament 2004 map of my high school but I haven't found the time to learn the editor and actually do the grunt work. I have too many other things to do.
Still though, the SSB editor looks fairly "barebones", like one will not be able to build levels that look anything like the official maps. That always irritates me a little because creativity and "professionalism" suffers when the tools supplied just can't do the job. I found that track editors in many racing games suffered this as well. Sure, you could make your own corners, straightaways and jumps but the tracks made by the editor all look and feel the same...it's "custom" but "generic". I have a feeling that the SSB editor will be just like this.
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even FPS map makers have been very limited... my maps I've made on my fav FPS have all ended up as just.... rooms with guns.... that's about all there is available...
me and my off-topickyness.. lol
I guess it's all a matter of personal perspective. In your case, it sounds a little "futile" and "pessimistic". Don't take that on as a personal attack Tails (far from it my friend ;) ) but it sounds like you don't seem to find much enjoyment to a mod'ed map once you've finished it. :( I think, at the end of the day, the map maker is just another feature the game makers are adding in the hopes that it will extend it's longevitity. Let's face it. Smash Bros's interest dies very quickly when you play it on your own. There seems to be little satisfaction in whooping a computer AI (or visa versa :lol ). The map maker is something that hopefully a single player will invest their time in to keep them linked to the game despite possibly being a "billy no-mates" :DD
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Eh, I'd prefer that SSB stays offline, and console based, myself. Let PC gamers have the add-on stuff. Just make the game to have lots to unlock, instad. It'd be about the same in feel.
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I would like to have the online feature. That's what got me interested in this game. I don't get to play a video game with another person that much at all, if ever.
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I welcome the online addition so i can play against people on this forum and things like that. But i would rather play offline with my local friends then online. I just find it more fun when your in the room with your friends while playing.
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Well, if you use the username Flathead, I might know its you. I know I'll be using WeirdRaptor, as alway. In fact, chances are, if you ever see the username WeirdRaptor attached a post anywhere online, its a good chance its me.
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That seems to pretty much be the normal nowadays. Players/users tend to pick one username and use it across the board of everything they look to be it games or otherwise. I use a specific alias for gaming now although I never used to.
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i tend to switch up my usernames, but if it has the number "770" at the end, then its more then likely me.
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Meh. I'd never be able to keep track of what I used where.
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Am I the only one to wonder how the Ice Climbers got into Super Smash Bros. Melee when they only appeared in one other game before that (discounting ports and Vs. Ice Climber), the original Ice Climbers for the NES? How did they luck out on that?
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Am I the only one to wonder how the Ice Climbers got into Super Smash Bros. Melee when they only appeared in one other game before that (discounting ports and Vs. Ice Climber), the original Ice Climbers for the NES? How did they luck out on that?
Nintendo were probably looking for:
1. A nod to the long-time gamers.
2. A character that would play differently to all the others.
Speaking of "playing differently", am I the only one who hopes the unlockable characters won't have cloned move-sets this time?
Meh, I just realised I'm going to have to change preferred character again since Marth probably won't be there this time.
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Well Pit only appeared in one game too back in 1986 and he still made it in. So I'm not surprised.
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Speaking of "playing differently", am I the only one who hopes the unlockable characters won't have cloned move-sets this time?
Nope. ;)
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Meh, I just realised I'm going to have to change preferred character again since Marth probably won't be there this time.
I'm more then likely going to have to switch characteres as well because Falco was a clone of Fox, oh well, a lot of the new characters look promising so im not too worryied.
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I like the new idea of the Mario Kart themed stage. :) However, the mass amounts of Shy Guy drivers seems not quite like the original games, but, then again, I guess this is to avoid Mario crashing into Mario (or, mabey worse, Luigi crashing inti Mario :lol ). It seems that there was a Mario Kart game where a Shy Guy driver made a special appearance, but I can't quite remember which one. It was one of the portable ones, I think....
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It was for the DS, on single card download play, the person without the game would play as Shy Guy.
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I remember seeing the Mario Kart stage in an earlier stage. I'm glad they decided to include it for the final version. ^^ I always loved the Mario Kart series.
About the clones, I have a feeling they won't be in the game this time. I think Sakurai mentioned all the movesets would be different.
It also appears that Waluigi will be making an apperance as an AT. I remember people complaining about this at the Vglan fourms because they wanted him as a playable character, but I have to strong disagree on that. He would not make a good playable character. He's better off an AT IMO.
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I don't have a Wii, and my parents won't let me get a job, but I will take money out of my iPhone bank account (I'm saving up to get an iPhone) to get the Wii and Super Smash Brothers Brawl. My first game was Super Smash Brothers, my first GameCube game was Super Smash Brothers Melee. I will continue the pattern.
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Favorite Characters for SSB: Kirby, Samus, Fox, Link, Pikachu
Favorite Characters for SSBM: Marth, Link, Kirby, Falco, Zelda
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Sigh, it looks like SSBB is going to continue the trend of big Nintendo titles. According to a magazine here:
US release: February. UK release: "not before July".
:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
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I just love SSB. It is an awesome 4-player fighting game.
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i was just looking on the smash bros site, and i decided to look at the japanese site, and i found this:
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SSBBBoxArt.jpg)
The box art for the game! At least, an early version of it.
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Sigh, it looks like SSBB is going to continue the trend of big Nintendo titles. According to a magazine here:
US release: February. UK release: "not before July".
:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
That's not what I've heard! Apparently, I've heard wind that SSMB is due out in the UK between 25th Jan and Feb 1st. Most online websites are quoting these two weeks but they are obviously subject to alteration. Got my fingers crossed for these 2 weeks. :D
Also, does anyone happen to know what Solid Snake's Final Smash is?! :unsure: I was thinking maybe he'd jump into a Metal Gear machine of some sort and blast the screen to obvilion, but both Rex and Ray are the environmental hazards of Snake's home stage (Shadow Moses Island) so I'm sorta obliged to think that this won't be his final smash attack. Anyone know of it?
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i don't know, he might get in the Shagohad (a tank capable of launching intercontinental ballistic missiles), the metal gear that was in the 3rd game, and it would control the same way as Fox's Landmaster. It will be interesting to see what it will actually be.
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i don't know, he might get in the Shagohad (a tank capable of launching intercontinental ballistic missiles), the metal gear that was in the 3rd game, and it would control the same way as Fox's Landmaster.
Ah! I thought that too but there's a flaw there that makes me think otherwise. The Snake in MGS3: Snake Eater was NOT Solid Snake you play as in MGS 1 and 2. MGS3 takes place a good 30ish years before MGS1, so it wouldn't technically tie in with Solid Snake's mission history (coz it wasn't him who fought the Shagohad).
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ah i guess that makes sense. I don't know that much about the games. I've only seen my brother go through the 3rd game and heard things about the first 2.
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One of my only complaints about the series is that the fighter's abilities and strengths are scaled up or down in an unnatural way from the real games, as in cheapening some characters like Samus (Let's face, it, though, letting her on a battlefield would be condemning everyone else to their deaths, except mabey a few select others.), elevating some characters like Mario (Fireballs all of the time? No fire flower? Really!?), and just plain changing others around (I didn't know Fox could do those fancy fire jumps like that! That sure would have come in handy in Star Fox Adventures!), etc. Of course, I can't really blame the makers for doing this, since the game wouldn't even be a real contest because some of the characters would never have a chance, and it just wouldn't be balanced.
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WARNING! CHALLENGER APPROACHING!
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pikmin.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pikmin.html)
Captain Olimar has landed.
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Uh.... :blink:
In my opinion, though, they would have been better off not putting him in the game, not like this, anyway. As I understand it, the Captain is about the height of a United States quarter. However, that wouldn't make for a good game, so they inflated and blew into him until he grew many times his original size. It makes him playable as a main character, but it ruins the dynamics of the "Marioverse". I think they should have left him out, made a way for him to grow easily in combat or otherwise be useful, or gave him a more minor role. I don't think this was the way to do it, even if I am a Pikmin fan and have both games.
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Every time you take Smash Bros too seriously, Masahiro Sakurai cries. Please don't make him sad :(
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I hope that Captain Falcon appears in SSBB. I will be sorely upset if he isn't.
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From what I've heard, SSBB is supposed to include everything from the previous instalments PLUS their new content. This goes for stages, weapons/items, characters etc. So I'd say there is a highly likely chance C.Falcon will find his way back onto the scene.
OK...never really played Pikmin (in fact I've never touched it) but WTH! :huh: I would have considered Captain Olimar to be a trophy perhaps but a fully playable character?! Never saw that one comin' :unsure:
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I highly doubt that Captain Falcon would be removed from SSBB, since he is a famous character.
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Also, does anyone happen to know what Solid Snake's Final Smash is?
Looks like they answered your question.
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I think Snake's final smash is pretty cool actually because it stands out from pretty much all other final smashes.
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Hey now! Now that's pretty cool! Definitely NOT what I was expecting but still...good to see my question has been answered :D
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http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html)
The game has been delayed… again… March 9th
*goes into a corner to cry*
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At least you guys have a release date...
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Man....they're really taking their time with this huh? :( Still, the longer the wait, the more stuff they can integrate into it. :D I'm sure the wait (despite being extended even further) will be worth it ;)
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I can understand that they need more time to complete the game and all, but jeeze, don't go around giving a realease date until you are 100% sure that the game CAN be realeased on this day. Fortunately, the update of the day is a Pikmin stage, so at least Sakurai gave us a neat update. Oh, well, at least I have some Wii games to keep me busy.
(BTW, Littlefoot1616, I was hoping I could get your friendcode for the Wii, so we can keep in touch with one another...that is if you can go online)
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BTW, Littlefoot1616, I was hoping I could get your friendcode for the Wii, so we can keep in touch with one another...that is if you can go online
Hey KK23! My Wii Friends Code is in the Wi-Fi Connection page under the After Midnight section. I'd rather have people I know add me to their roster rather than any Bobby Joe and Sappy Sally that happens to breeze on thru on the off chance :DD I normally keep my Wii linked to the net so I'll pick up messages fairly often.
I'll look forward to gamin' with ya KK23 ;)
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I am planning on getting a Wii. When I get enough money, I am getting the Wii, Guitar Hero, and SSBB. I would get DDR, but I like the PS2 version better. You can use pads.
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its kind of a bummer that SSBB got delayed but its for the better in the long run, at least its not as bad as Twilight Princess.
I'd rather have people I know add me to their roster rather than any Bobby Joe and Sappy Sally that happens to breeze on thru on the off chance
You shouldn't have to worry about that at all. For the friend codes and adresses, both people have to input each others code, so if someone takes your code, so what. They can't actually do anything to you unless you register their code.
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News! There's an error in an official Smash Brothers Brawl video on the Japanese Wii website that pretty much confirms Lucario from Pokemon as a playable character, possibly replacing Mewtwo. Oh, and Ness is there too.
Here is the explanation, quoted from someone else. I've tried this myself and it does work:
"Now, first off, above all, I know people are making some ridiculous claims all the time about who they think should be or is going to be in Brawl~ But this time, I present to you some pretty strange material that could allude to Ness and Lucario being playable characters in Brawl. Bear with me, read on, and you'll see what I mean.
The second-last Brawl update on the official site (from the date I posted this journal) was one detailing Sticker-powerups usable in the Subspace Emissary single/dual-player story mode. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea12.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea12.html)) Basically, the point is that you can place stickers you find in-game on a character's trophy-base to add powerups to their abilities. (For the Subspace Emissary only.) They don't mention it, but the icons in the bottom-right show what characters they can be used on. (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5491/brawlstickersiconsmn1.png (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5491/brawlstickersiconsmn1.png)) Also, note that some of the stickers had their icons cleverly removed. (http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9910/brawlstickersnoiconsjt5.png (http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9910/brawlstickersnoiconsjt5.png)) This either means that the sticker works for everyone, or that the icons were doctored out to protect their super-secret characters from being revealed.
Now, on to part II of our story:
There's a Japanese site, showing a game play montage of Super Smash Brothers Brawl (That many of you may not have seen -- check it out as it's imperative to my point: http://wii.com/jp/movies/smashbros-movie1/ (http://wii.com/jp/movies/smashbros-movie1/)) It shows a bunch of fighting, basic gameplay strategies -- but the real kicker is at 4:20 - 4:22, where it shows a stickerbook that highlights Groudon, Lucas, and Sonic before flipping pages. The stickers, unlike the screenshots on the update-page above, do not appear to show any character icons -- it merely passes them by and goes on to the next scene.
Now, this may seem like a stretch, and I hope this works the way it worked for me -- bear with me, and please just try it, I know someone else was able to work it correctly as I learned about this possible hint from someone on Lulz.net.
The moment it flicks to the sticker page at 4:20 and shows Groudon highlighted, pause it immediately -- again, you can't see any icons. But now, unpause it, and watch very carefully, very quickly -- something happens in the following second, the video vertically reformats, and for a second you can see text and icons appear -- here's a screenshot in case you can't view the video, or aren't fast enough, or just don't feel like trying it: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7606/lucariozoomll7.png (http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7606/lucariozoomll7.png). First we have Pikachu, the PokÈmon Trainer, and.... what's that third one?! Is it Lucario? -- Oh yeah, and there's Jigglypuff there, too.
As well, try the same thing a short moment after, pause the movie when Groudon is still highlighted, only a moment before it shifts to Lucas -- you'll see this hidden screenshot emerge when it vertically reformats: http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5512/nesszoomls8.png (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5512/nesszoomls8.png) -- You can see Ness' icon there, beside Lucas'. (I think we all honestly expected Ness to return, but this might make things seem a bit more concrete. On such a note, just my opinion, but I expect the majority of (if not all of) the cast of SSBM to be back. At least the biggest main ones that everyone's whining abut, like Ganondorf and Captain Falcon.)"
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the links for the pictures don't work and you also have to remove the braket from the movie link. I've aleady seen the movie on ign.com. Anyways, i watched the video and saw the icons. It looks like you might be on to something, but in the end, we'll just have to wait and see.
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I have one question: Does anybody here have characters they want to see in the SSB game following SSBB?
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woah man, let's just get through ssbb first before we start thinking about the next game, if there will end up being one, lol
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shouldn't we be discussing who will be in SSBB still? Theres bound to be many more then have been listed.
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The links in my previous post are fixed now. It went weird during the copy-and-paste.
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Too bad the vid keeps pausing on ya. (At least that's the problem I'm having.) :(
At least the pics work and prove quite a bit. There's going to be TONS of people that will go crazy when they find out Lucario is around. (Just its appearance alone made it popular.)
This is definately going to get good! :^.^:
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i definately have to increase my pokemon knowledge. I have absolutley no idea who lucario is other then his face (i think), that hes a newer season then the 1st, which is obviuos and that his name rhymes with Mario (unless im pronouncing it wrong) :lol . Whats so special about lucario? Whats its abilities?
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at least they still have ness in this one. i'm not so sure how people would react if lucas ended up replacing ness
i don't know much about lucario. i think he's a mix between a psychic and dark pokemon. he's kind of like mewtwo in a sense.
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Actually. He's fighting/Steel.
But what really grinds my gears is how I have to wait ANOTHER MONTH for Brawl! It would have been nice to let us know earlier than three weeks from launch! I mean, COME ON! :angry:
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Jan 31st, Brawl is out in Japan today.
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Happy Brawl Day...to Japan.... (cries on the inside) XD Just kidding. I still can't wait. What do they possibly need to do with the English version anyways? In Japan Brawl only got pushed back a few days, but we got a whole month. What else needs to be translated into English?
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there's a whole bunch of characters that have been confirmed playable that are in the japanese version that haven't been translated over to english:
captain falcon, marth, falco, windwaker link, ganondorf, ness, etc...
for a complete list of characters so far, go to the wikipedia page. here is the link to the site:
Confirmed Characters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._%28series%29#Playable_characters)
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This isn't for the tally, I just love this game and I play it like it's crack or something.
Fox is my most favorite character to use because I like how he moves and how fast he can be. Falco is fun because he's just a stronger version of Fox. Mario is one of the most dynamic characters in the whole game for me. Bowser is fun, he shoots fire. :lol Link has a plethora of gadgets and gizmos, which makes him very much like Samus, except with Link you can't just completely volley the hell out of your opponents with missiles and power balls. Marth is cool because he's like clangclang dancedance, he's a little weak for a sword character though, but I usually like the faster characters anyway and he has a bit of speed to him. I can use just about any character effectively except for like Donkey Kong, Ness, and Jigglypuff, though I do like using Jigglypuff. Except DK, I think Ness and Jigglypuff are some of the hardest characters to use in the game. Yes, I know Fox is one of the easiest characters to use, but I really don't care, he's still awesome. :p
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in my opinion, i'm just so used to using link, he's the easiest character for me. i do agree that ness is probably the hardest character to use, but yoshi is pretty close too.
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Waahh..no more purple kittty. :cry :lol:
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in my opinion, i'm just so used to using link, he's the easiest character for me
he was my first character. It seems like hes a good pick up and play time guy, though i hate people who only use his spin attacks....argh. As for Yoshi, i don't find him to difficult, just got to get used to having no triple jump (but i guess his egg throw is supposed to help him recover in Brawl, though i don't know how). Yoshi is my second best character, with Falco being first. Im also pretty good with Samus and Ganondorf as well.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/bdcool187 (http://www.youtube.com/user/bdcool187)
This guy has a lot of gameplay videos. :) :)
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did i see marth in the opening video?
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Smash won’t come out in North America for a bit, and sadly, Europe has an even longer wait until the game is released.
Looks like my magazine was right when they said July. :cry :cry :cry
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actually, at the moment it is schedualed for March 9th. although, there is probably a good chance that it will be delayed again.
yes, marth is in brawl!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HU_AJbx10Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HU_AJbx10Q)
The Final Smash (FS) Video
Pretty cool moves for the characters...Jiggly needs a marker. :P:
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The entire roster has been revealed already by Japanese people who have the game. And I gotta be honest, I find the complete roster disappointing. Other than Sonic and Snake, the starting roster is better than the unlockables. Most of them are clones.
One certain character in the unlockables has me baffled. I mean, to me what were they thinking? How can it fight when it does so little to begin with? I'm not going to spoil anything to those who don't want to be spoiled, but in my opinion they kind of messed up adding this guy to the roster when they could've added someone much more capable.
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Loved the Final Smash Video there Petrie! Thanks for that! ;)
As per usual, all the top, highly awaited games (well, most of them anyway), the Japs get the first test run. And I bet they sold like hotcakes! Oh well, guess it just means we've got more to look forward to as the Youtube videos pile in (or you could import a Japanese Wii if you're that desperate :^.^: ) I'm kinda not surprised by the number of clones in there but I'm glad they worked on building up a lot of content from Melee rather than stripping it down. I see Young Link has been replaced with Link's Wind Waker model (so the rumours were true ;) ). Not sure we needed another Star Fox clone (i.e. Star Wolf).
Still, anticipations are still running high for this game! Roll on...urgh...May time (lousy European importing timetable *grumble* *moan* *whine* :angry: :lol )
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I believe this game sold half a million on its first day in Japan, that's a pretty impressive first day number in Japan.
As for the clones, I believe I read somewhere that this time they tried to make some minor and big differences in some of their attacks to try to keep them from being complete clones, so that's good news for variety. Even though Toon Link shares his final smash with Link and Falco and Wolf with Fox's, although they might have different attributes and attack patterns.
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Falco, Fox, and Wolf all appear to be clones. Even their FS' are practically alike. Captain Falcon and Ganondorf stll appear to be clones. Other than those, I don't see many others out of the gameplay videos already available.
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All I can say is:
W00t! :wow :lol I was a little concerned that perhaps Nintendo would have killed this game, taking so much away out that was in Melee...but after watching a few videos, if appears that Brawl has all of the goodies from Melee with some beautiful improvements.
(and come on: How many teenagers fantacized about nailing Pikachu with a grenade launcher from long-range? I'm not one of them but I have heard many a death threat made on the poor cuddly creature. :p)
Honestly, I'm extremely impressed! If the English release is anything like this one, I don't know how I could possibly be disappointed. B)
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Hmm... Time to start listing complaints I guess... avoid this if you are WR...
SPOILERS:
Rant tape start:
Stage Creator: I'd rather have good premade stages than generic stage-creator-stages
No: Pichu, my absolute favorite character; Tails, I'm not shocked, but no Tails; Mewtwo, I didn't play Mewtwo as often, but I DID play as Mewtwo more than some that stayed, and really, the ICE CLIMBERS make it in?; For the record, though I didn't use these characters: Roy, and technically no Young Link, just Wind Waker Link, which Wind Waker was also a disappointment to me...; Wave Dashing! L Canceling (Some say, although other say it exists, so it's left to be decided); If I've seen correctly, there's no red shell... this seems like a crying shame...
(I'll update this as I read more disappointment)
Choice of return stages: RAINBOW CRUISE? RAINBOW CRUISE beat Fountain of Dreams??? Really?
The New Battlefield: I like the old one
Remixed old songs: Why not just use... the old songs? I'll have to wait and hear them on my friends' system...
Assist Trophies: Some really seem like a waste of memory
No Online Upgrades: It was a stretch in my mind to begin with, but still a disappointment
Smash Ball: Stopping a game somewhat to commit an animation, tisk tisk tisk, AND I HAVE HEARD it SLOWS down the animation, that's a sin
The Final Smashes: Are apparently also unbalanced
MASTERPIECES: I DON'T WANT TO BUY A GAME FOR DEMOS I MAY ALREADY OWN
The very FACT: that they REMOVED characters, of course it's not a "pattern" if it only has 2 parts, but it would've been a nice pattern to have all the previous characters...
Slower: I PERSONALLY thought Brawl was perfect as far as speed, fast-paced leads to entertainment not only in the form of better fighting, but it leads to much more comical events
The Golden Hammer: Now there's a hammer with no... problems? That means it is the ultimate item, if you get it then you win until it's time is up... -.-;
You shouldn't fix what isn't broken, but that does NOT mean one should break what is working fine either...
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I'll most likely edit this until even I'm tired of my complaining
Not that it breaks anyone's heart, but I am NOT buying this game, and I'll most likely return it if I receive it as a gift... I don't want my ideas of what a Smash Bros game should be, tainted by the likes of what seems to be missing a lot of gears
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Heh, I might as well response to Tails. I'm in the bit of a debatable mood. :p
Stage Creator: I'd rather have good premade stages than generic stage-creator-stages
After awhile a stage may get old. Also, you can recieve stages from other people, including from random strangers so it adds variety, and you don't have to make your own stages.
No: Pichu, my absolute favorite character; Tails, I'm not shocked, but no Tails; Mewtwo, I didn't play Mewtwo as often, but I DID play as Mewtwo more than some that stayed, and really, the ICE CLIMBERS make it in?; For the record, though I didn't use these characters: Roy, and technically no Young Link, just Wind Waker Link, which Wind Waker was also a disappointment to me...; Wave Dashing! L Canceling (Some say, although other say it exists, so it's left to be decided); If I've seen correctly, there's no red shell... this seems like a crying shame...
Pichu was personally one of the worst characters in the game, and besides he was a clone of Pikachu, so it was really using the same character, except weaker. The fact that most of his attacks wasted health made him frustrating to use and Mewtwo was pretty good, but Lucurio not only copies some of his moves, but he is faster than Mewtwo, as Mewtwo was a bit slow. No offense, but you sound a bit biased with your opinion on Tails. For the record, only two more Third Party character other than Snake was allowed in the game and Sonic being the loved (well once loved) mascot of Sega got first pick, but Tails would be a horrible waste because he is not as nearly as popular as Sonic, and Tails would have been the third "Third Party" character, so it would have wasted better characters such as Megaman. Sadly, the Bluebomer did not get in, but negotiating with Sega again to get Tails would have been tough, so it feels like you want him in just because you like the most. I am a Tails fan too, but personally Tails would not be a good addition. Knuckles maybe, but Tails, no. Also, realize that this is a NINTENDO fighter, meaning the focus should be on Nintendo characters, but because the creator of MGS pratically begged Nintendo to let him in, they decided to.
Wavedashes- Wavedashes were personally annoying to me! Some people don't have fast hand movements, such as myself who has fine motor problems, however I do believe L-canceling and others will remain, but I hated the Wavedash. However, I do agree that the secret characters were a bit dissapointing. And you can't assume just because you haven't seen a red shell doesn't mean it's not in it. Perhaps it is unlockable since there is an enormous amount of secrets to unlock.
Choice of return stages: RAINBOW CRUISE? RAINBOW CRUISE beat Fountain of Dreams??? Really?
Yes, really, because while Fountain of Dreams was a lovely stage, Rainbow Cruse actually had you moving around, and move to different locations to add various situations or strategies to the fighter. As beautiful as Fountain of Dreams was, you could not use the corse to the advantage of the other player.
Remixed old songs: Why not just use... the old songs? I'll have to wait and hear them on my friends' system...
Not all of the songs are reused from Melee. Besides, it would get boring hearing the same old music we heard in the same game. The remixs make the music sound different, and from what I seen there are a whole bunch of new songs in the Brawl. Why are you putting emphasis on old songs when clearly there are new songs to balence it?
No Online Upgrades: It was a stretch in my mind to begin with, but still a disappointment
Please explain where you heard the game will have no online upgrades, and please name another console game that had online updates. From what I seen, I never noticed any in Halo 2; other than recieving the new stages.
Smash Ball: Stopping a game somewhat to commit an animation, tisk tisk tisk, AND I HAVE HEARD it SLOWS down the animation, that's a sin
For starters, not ALL of the animations require the characters to stop. For example when Fox calls his landmaster the other characters are still roaming around free on stage while he summons it, and on top of that the animation is 2 seconds. Why will 2 little seconds hurt? Also, I watched the videos; I have not seen a single slow down on the final smashes.
The Final Smashes: Are apparently also unbalanced
Really? From my understanding most of them are easy to avoid as well.
The very FACT: that they REMOVED characters, of course it's not a "pattern" if it only has 2 parts, but it would've been a nice pattern to have all the previous characters...
Most of the characters that were removed were clones, and in spite of the fact we have clones in Brawl most of the starting characters, including Sonic, Snake, and two of the unlockable characters have different movesets and all of those characters together with different movesets is around 25 characters; the exact same number as in Melee and most of the other Melee characters were clones, so it would be nice to have different movesets to experements.
The Golden Hammer: Now there's a hammer with no... problems? That means it is the ultimate item, if you get it then you win until it's time is up... -.-;
The Gold Hammer maybe powerful, but it has faults. There are quotes taken from the offical Smash Dojo website.
Quote 1: "And it’s even more rare. " - Meaning the chances of getting the hammer is realtively low.
Quote 2: "This item also occasionally malfunctions..." This means that the hammer does in fact have fault. It may not work on characters and "occasionally" is a big word there.
Also, the Brawl Central website had this to say on the hammer, and they have kept in touch with people who played the game.
Quote 3: "Similar to the way the head of the normal Hammer falls off, the Golden Hammer may sometimes be a squeaky hammer, which will do no damage or knock back, leaving the user vulnerable to attack."
So you made an assumption on the golden hammer. It's not as powerful as "you" supposedly claimed it to be. :p
Not that it breaks anyone's heart, but I am NOT buying this game.
(Whistles) To be honest you're not giving this game a fair chance, man. Have you ever heard of the expression, "Don't judge a book by it's cover?" That's what your doing. You can't hate a game just becaus you haven't played it, and some of your reasons have been speculations and not facts. You instantly assumed the Golden Hammer was overpowering, but I just gave you solid proof that you were wrong, so I really think you're jumping the gun about Brawl. Why not rent it first, because judging by your tone, you're slightly overacting about a game that people put so much time and effort into, and that's not being fair to them.
Well, that's I all have to say about that. I look forward to your response. :wave
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ACTUALLY... Sonic is the least popular character of the Sonic series among people I talk to, it's not my biasty, HOWEVER, in my biased opinion, Megaman is one of the WORST characters ever... Pichu provided a way for me to play with Pikachu's moveset without playing as my least favorite Nintendo character of all time... Pichu's taking damage added a challenge factor, to overcome a damage-adding fault, on a light character made for a good challenge for me, plus he was fast and fairly strong...
Lucario... why not just have a faster Mewtwo? Lucario is just taking an old idea and putting a mask on it...
No stage I've played on in Melee has gotten old to me, I haven't ever had remotely the same match twice...
Wavedashes are annoying to those who cant use it, but one shouldn't dumb a test down because the bar isn't hit, one should increase the education to reach that success... I can't do them either but I won't take the option away from those who can...
The "stopping" I refer to was a complaint from a couple reviewers who pre-ordered the Japan version
and removing clones to put others in seems illogical, Lucas is still a clone whether they want to say it or not... one could have just changed Pichu's moveset...
since when can one not use any course to one's advantage? Fountain of Dreams is a small level, it leads to less running away for a whole match, because it's a close-quarters, on Rainbow Cruise most of the battle is running away without fighting, I didn't buy a game to not fight...
Online upgrades are becoming more common, and while I'm not saying it CAN'T Happen, I'd figure it'd be a major announcement...
Unlockable items feel like a BAD idea, I don't want a game I have to unlock everything in, leave unlockables to trophies, a SMALL amount of characters, (Clones are good, because then you're allowed to play it with friends without spending twenty days unlocking) Unlockables may add to replayability for a while, but you know why people play these games? to play with friends, NOT one player... multiplayer...
I never said the songs were reused from melee, I meant if the original song is fine, why remix it? I don't have a strong dislike for this one, because I don't know the quality of the remixes, it was just a complaint I read, so I figured I may have to watch out for it...
just because ALL don't require it, doesn't mean none of them do..
by unbalanced I don't mean impossible to avoid, I mean, Mario's may be tenfold of Ice Climbers or something
I don't understand why we're making item clones if we're not making character clones, and making it so a hammer weilder can't fall in pits is what I don't like, it means that EVERYONE is ALWAYS vulnerable to something that was designed for avoidability... if I can't avoid it it's not fun (and if you're saying this contradicts my rainbow cruise argument, I don't mind dodging in fights, but just constantly dodging is no fun)
Why remove Game and Watch? He was original and creative; not to mention a fitting tribute to Yokoi
now about my despise for unlockables:
Let's look at some of the previous chores used to unlock things...
Sure some of these are for dedicated players such as trophy collectors, but most of them couldn't get all the trophies anyway, not everyone lives in Tokyo and LA...
15 Minute Melee: I don't want to sit for 14 minutes and 40 seconds, get screwed and have to REDO it when I just want a stage...
Cruel Melee: since it was for a trophy it's not so bad, but... this seemed way excessive (though I got it with Pikachu XD)
Break the Targets: There's always someone who I COULD NOT do it with... One thing that was just so stressful I never would go back...
Medium with 3 lives: Harmless, but I just want my characters for multiplayer... come on...
Event Matches: These are a treat... unlock a character by fighting without fighting, and it always seemed rigged, halfway leaning towards them... wubbofet or w/e after the same... and they get Lugia after Lugia... come on...
Luckily it didn't unlock anything: Lethal Marathon, I'd rather get my eyes pierced with rusty nails...
Some of the Event matches that unlocked things were so stressful I figured I just wouldn't use them... not a good way to get people to enjoy a game...
And further on Tails, he seems to have the largest plethora of moves from games... Sonic is mainly roll and run... and a bit of jumping, Tails can use Tail Whip, the Kirby/Jigglypuff fly... kicks and punches of course... the bombs from Tails Adventure, lasers, and really, why is that wrong?
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I do admit Sonic has lost popularity, but people still consider him the popular one of the Sonic group and he does overshadow Tails quite a bit, and this is something I read on Wiki, but Wiki is bull, so I'm not going to go by that. Megaman not being popular is your opinion because Megaman is one of the most reconizable characters in video game history, and you're one of the many who don't like him. I have played a few games of him already and I actually like the little guy, so I may actually try a few more of his games, but he scales over other characters such as Tails because of his popularity, and let me reiterate that this game is a Nintendo fighter starring Nintendo characters, so you can't have a large cast of characters outside of it. I guess I was a little too strong about Tails not being a good choice; he could actually be good, but since Sonic is the central character of the game he has first pick, so it was inevitable that he wouldn't get in. Also, Sonic is a lot more popular than you think man. True his games have been going down hill, but a lot of people still consider him a great character over everyone else.
Mewtwo is actually a bit on the slow side. It wouldn't make much sense to make Mewtwo appear faster in the next installment of Smash Brothers. I took a look at Mewtwo's stats and compred them to Lucario. Lucario is a much better and agile character than Mewtwo, so you reallly can't just go and change Mewtwo's stats.
Why remove Game and Watch?
Um, dude, Game and Watch is in the game.
As for the Melee Stages I never got old of them either, but after awhile you'd be able to recognize every area in the level, and it would just make it easier to take advantage over character. With the stage builders every time will feel different, and it will add challenge to it.
As for the music I've listen to the remixs songs and I must say they are pretty good. You should listen to them yourself before you make that call.
Besides, for Pichu, one of the new characters in the game makes up for his absences. (I don't know if I should reveal who it is due to spoilers, but he adds a lot of challenge just from playing as him) Pichu may add challenge, but after awhile playing as him just gets annoying; his disadvantages really outweight his advantages, and now and then you'd actually like to win. I know it's about not about winning or losing, but once in awhile you'd like that accomplishment. I would perfer Game & Watch because he is a hard character to work with, but he adds challenge; Pichu is just too annoying to use.
Wavedashing was originally a glitch in the game in case you're wondering, so I am guessing they removed it because of that. Besides, have you ever considered that there may be another glitch that could be used to one's advantage? When were waiting for Melee do you think we were expecting the Wave Dash? Same rule applies: maybe there is a glitch that will work to the player's advantage in Brawl.
As for the slow downs with the game, just because some people think it's bad doesn't mean everyone hates it. An offical Japanese magazine (which I forgot the name of) gave the game a 40/40, so they must have found the game to be fantastic. People are going to have different views on it, but they can't do that unless they experence it first hand. That's like saying: I hate carrots, but I haven't even tried them.
As for Fountain of Dreams; you got a point, but realize that there are a few stages similair to fountain of dreams. In fact one looks exactly like it, but with different backgrounds. So I can't really see what you're complaining about it. It's basically the same stage with different backgrounds, but it's not related to the Kirby series.
As for online upgrades I'm still waiting for an example about where they are becoming common in console games. Super Smash Brothers is not World of Warcraft; it's a fighting game and considering this is one of the few that go online it may proof difficult to incorporate new features. Also, the Wii isn't exactly the powerful one of the three consoles, but Brawl offers different online modes for fun. Also, the Wii does do online upgrades now and then, so we may get updates.
Returning to the Hammer, the hammer is the ONLY item clone in the game. Every other item is different, so I can't see why you're bothered by just one clone. Besides, you really have to jam the buttons to float in the air with the hammer, so you can still fall of the cliff, and your hand may get tired, so it does have another disadvantage.
BTW, when I meant unlockable items I wasn't saying there were any to unlock. In fact there probably aren't any. It would appear kind of stupid to have to unlock items, but I only said that because you were again "assuming" the red shell wasn't in the game. If you can provide me solid proof, then okay, I understand.
I think one of the things about the Multiplayer is you put too much stress on it. The single player modes add different experences and challenges, and also, what if you were to have no friends? Most've my friends were online, and I didn't have offline friends except for my brother, so wouldn't you like a different experence sometimes. Multiplayer is awesome, but sometimes you may want to check out the other features.
As for the event modes, they found a way for people to unlock certain things without necessarily going through them. In the vault menu you can use hammers to unlock new features Also, the event modes now have a difficulty range and on top of that, the break the targets were also made easier. There are about 5 different break the targets, but that's about it....I think. I'm not sure.
Again, you really are not giving this game a chance. Just because someone says it isn't good doesn't mean you should go by it. When it comes down to it you have to make the final call by experencing it youself, and that's really not fair, wouldn't you think? What if I wrote a story with this sort of concept, and I told you about, and you think it's horrible, without even reading it? You have to give the game a fair chance, and I'm a bit upset by that. Not because I'm a fan but because you fail to actually give the game a fair chance. I personally thought some things sucked when I first saw them, but when I really sat down with it, I came to realize it was awesome and I misjudged it.
So, really, give this game a chance. You may actually like it, and in that same token, maybe I'll actually hate it. XD
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referring simply to the Pichu thing: I win about 25 times as much as I lose when I play as Pichu, and this is fighting my good friends, I think the speed and strength are great, and I've made it to 250 some % damage as Pichu in a plain match without getting KOed... it's about what one is good at, and Pichu is just fast enough, that even if I didn't dislike Pikachu, I'd still choose Pichu over Pikachu any day
From what I hear, Gears of War has patches quite often apparently... but I can't know, I don't have the game...
I have heard the game is almost beginner-slow though, that's what bothers me, I think that Melee was perfect speedwise, the Japanese are apparently more interested in a slower game according to a few reviewers, but Americans (according to reviews I've read, not necessarily ALL) seem to like a faster fight, the 40 out of 40 is very unique for the magazine in question, but I'm not saying the game won't be amazing, I'm saying I, PERSONALLY, in my own mind, only me, myself, am deciding, for me, that I don't like what I've read of the game, I may play at a friend's house, but I will NOT rent or buy until I have, because I am not satisfied with the various reviews I've read in totality... I am interested in the character in question though, go ahead, just make a spoiler alert for other people..
and I stand corrected on the Game and Watch, missed that one
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Heh, it's kinda ironic. Mostly everyone considers Pichu to be the worst character and most were relived to hear he was out of Brawl, and then out of everyone I see one person who actually despises the fact that he wasn't included in Brawl. I guess everyone has a different taste in characters, but again, at least rent the game? It wouldn't hurt to actually give it a try before you make the final call. If you play it and are dissapointed, that's fine, but the fact that you haven't even tried it yet is a bit shallow. At least give it a try. Maybe you'll run into the fourms going: OMG TEH BEST GAME EVA! or OMG I HATEZ DIS GAME SO MUCH I BURNZ IT INTO DE GROUND! You can't really hate something you haven't played, you know?
And maybe the Jap version of Melee was slower. I recall that pal versions of games are considered faster. Perhaps that's also the reason the American version was pushed back to March; maybe to make some changes. I'm sure we in the United States have different tastes in games.
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but I can, I wouldn't go out and rent every car to decide which I wanted, I'd rather read about them, and pick the one I like... and the only rental store in town is all the way ACROSS town... besides, I like using my money on things I am certain I like...
As far as Megaman, I know he IS popular, it was my opinion, I loathe the character, because he is the main character of a series which didn't even seem to UPGRADE its engines between games, just patch new levels on it... it's a personal discrimination; Mario is going that way now too, but not in the platformers, which change a bit each time at least, but in the Mario Party 1-8 + DS, Mario and Sonic at the Olympics, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf... etc... but that's another topic...
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Well, the only difference between a car and a video game is price. I mean renting a game at blockbuster would be cheaper than buying a rentable car which I'm sure costs more, and on top of that a car is more of a pain in the butt to deal with than ploping a game in a system..oh, you get my drift. :p We're not hear to talk about car rentals, are we? XD
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intended analogy, sir, money, in any value, is still money... I am more comfortable with others' reviews, especially if they know what they're doing, than buying or renting a game and deciding for myself when I'm trying to save up for college
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The thing is I don't exactly listen to what a lot of reviewers say. In the past I've had people say one thing about a game, but then I played the game and I had the exact opposite reaction about. Sometimes you can't go by what the crowd says. You hate the Megaman series, but yet so many more love it, so you go, "I've played these games, but I don't like them." Sometimes I even shake my head at poor reviews people make. I'm not saying every review is inacurate, but you may feel differently from what everyone else is saying.
Even right now I disagree with you on some of the points you made on the upgrades with the Mario sports games, though Tennis is really the only one I liked. In spite of the updates, the gameplay was just so fun that you could forgive it. I even find some fun in the Mario Party games. :p
But I guess it would be fruitless to continue to pursue this debate, obviously you're going to stick to what you believe and I have no control over that. I think I said all that there is to say (besides I'm starting to fall asleep over here. XD) So I'm just gonna wait for Brawl in March, play it, and enjoy it to the best of my ability. I still envy Japan for getting it, and hopefully it will live up to the hype. Till next time, Tails, you take it easy.
KingdomKey23
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k c ya :p I'm not saying I won't play it, I'm saying I won't spend money on it until I am certain it's worth my money
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I don't have a console but perhaps, unless you already have, you can talk about what you hope the Wii version will have, features, characters ect, to help get it back on topic as well.
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Well, for characters, I was hoping to have Sora from Kingdom Hearts
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I dunno why, but I feel that Sora wouldn't have fit in there. And this is ironic coming from a KH fan, but I just feel the roster would feel slightly out of place with him in it. I don't he is suited for a Smash Brothers game, but I can't really explain why. X_X
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I think that 3rd party characters should be kept to a minimum in my opinion. Snake and Sonic are fine. As for my thoughts on the roster, im fine with it. Theres only about 5 clones out of the 35+ characters and to tell you the truth, im kinda glad there still clones as 2 of them are my best characters. The only one i don't understand is why they put in wolf. Krystal i thought would've been better as she could have a more varied move list. At first i thought R.O.B. was the the dumbest choice, but after watching a couple of videos on Youtube, i think it might be a pretty interesting character, not to mention that it is a fresh and original addition to the roster. The newest features that im looking forward to in Brawl, excluding online, is the stage-creator and replays. There have been times in melee where some really funny things would happen and you just wish that it could've been recorded. I've always loved stage-creators in games so it came to no surprise that i love the inclusion of one in Brawl. Even though the creator is pretty basic, you can still make some pretty good maps (look at the videos on Youtube, Petrie put up a link a couple of posts ago). I also like how they made pretty much every 1-P mode co-op now, especially event matches, those look like fun! Those are all my thoughts on the game so far that i can think of. Can't wait to Brawl with everyone here! If you want, you can add me to your Wii friend list, my Wii number is in the Nintendo Wi-Fi connections topic.
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*wipes hands* I just got all the crap from the ceiling off. :rolleyes:
Now where were we?
Oh yes, Brawl. I've seen quite a few videos already from people playing, and so far it looks like Sheik, Marth, and Lucario are very strong characters, and if a person is very good with them, they'll be hard to beat. A couple of videos say they've been done as online gameplay (which I don't doubt) but I always wonder if lag causes some of the outcomes to be decided in the end.
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I dunno why, but I feel that Sora wouldn't have fit in there. And this is ironic coming from a KH fan, but I just feel the roster would feel slightly out of place with him in it. I don't he is suited for a Smash Brothers game, but I can't really explain why. X_X
To be honest, Sora fits much better than Snake. I mean Sora is kind of cartoony already being in Kingdom Hearts and hanging around Disney characters.
And Sora has a lot of potential for some interesting final smashes. Either change to Valor Form, Wisdom Form, Master Form, Final Form and Limit Form. The possibility and fun factor can be endless with him being in the game and guessing which form you get for final smash.
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Do you taunt with characters? Here's what you'll see if you do it in SSBB:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSxR3ebOzc&eurl= (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSxR3ebOzc&eurl=)
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I never taunt. It leaves me open for attack.
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I only taunt after i ko a person on an 1 vs 1 and know there is enough time to pull it off.
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It's kind of fun pulling a taunt when you blow your opponent away. It's kind of like your way of saying "owned" XD
My friend does it a lot though, like every time he blows me away even when I manage to get back onto the stage. And to make it even more annoying he imitates the taunt in real life. He always picks Samus so...Yeah XD
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My friend does it a lot though, like every time he blows me away even when I manage to get back onto the stage. And to make it even more annoying he imitates the taunt in real life. He always picks Samus so...Yeah XD
As long as he isn't pulling a Pikachu taunt (the rolling one) its fine. :p
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Call it gloating (but I suppose that's the intention of taunting) I normally taunt after a KO. In Melee, taunting after a KO in a decision match got you bonus points. I like the fact there are multiple taunts; both previous instalments and new ones. It's great that they've built up on Melee so much, even the little things
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i just can't get over the waiting! i want to play this game so badly!
hopefully gamestop will come out with a demo in the stores or something
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Demos make me even more impatient. They make me feel like a dog whose being baited with a whole plate of bacon, then only given a tiny shred of a piece. Its maddening!
Hmm. Perhaps I should try Taunt during K.O. sometime. I never thought of that...of course, I usually just fight in matches where its three CPUs and me, so...
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My friend does it a lot though, like every time he blows me away even when I manage to get back onto the stage. And to make it even more annoying he imitates the taunt in real life. He always picks Samus so...Yeah XD
LOL XD
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the Luigi taunt definatley will get annoying in Brawl, you know what im talking about :lol . That was the most annoying part of that taunting video.
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A very short (really crummy) battle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoxh8a3Lpik (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoxh8a3Lpik)
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They revealed info on Lucario at the main site today, and that just does it! Lucario makes the last spot.
So, my team is: Kirby, Snake, Sonic and Lucario
Get ready world! In one and a half weeks, I'm ready to rumble! :^.^:
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Yes, I saw it. :) Good hi-res photos too.
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I just saw the site today and Lucario definately looks like a character that would be interesting to play, but for my current character picks are Falco, Yoshi, Samus/ZS Samus and Ganondorf.
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Lucario sounds like an interest character but he also kind of sounds a bit broken to me. His attack power increases the more damage he has. That's gonna make some intense battles even more intense when it'll come to close-range combat. I do wonder how much power increase we're talking about here...
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From smashboards.com:
Good news guys! I got some Official numbers from my friend with the game!
Using Aura Sphere, Lucario did the following damage:
At 0% - 13%
At 50%- 16%
At 100%- 20%
At 150%- 24%
and
At 200%- 26%
The REAL Multipliers are:
0% - x1.0
50% - ~x1.25(1.23)
100% - ~x1.50(1.53)
150% - ~x1.75 (1.84)
200% - x2.00
So!
That means, Lucario's Power doubles, but the problem becomes the fact you're not playing defense.
This reshapes my Meta-game plan, so I'll make my adjustments, and post them sometime tomorrow.
OKAY! I also had it tested with his DSmash!
The following results:
0%-13(x1.0)
50%-17(~x1.30)
100%-21(~x1.6)
150%-25(~x1.9)
200%-28(~x2.2)
Keep in mind, sweet spots tend to change data, so I would think that following Aura Sphere's Multipliers would be more accurate overall.
-Thanks to Ro0kie42 for the info!-
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I just dropped in to let everyone who lives in North America know that we're coming into the home stretch. Exactly one week from today marks the realease of the game. I went to Gamespot today to make sure that I'd be able to get a copy on the day, and since I reserved the game I should be able to. Many of the boxes of the games are already on display, though I doubt the games are in them. The game is having a midnight launch, so I have a feeling the parking lot is going to be flooded with Wii owners lining up to get their mits on the game. XD
As for Lucario, he seems like an interesting character. Only recently did I get into him after I saw the Pokemon movie he was in. He's pretty cool, despite the fact that he dwells on the past a lot, and he's voice by the guy who does Goku from Dragonball Z. How ironic since some of his moves seem DBZish. XD Man, I wouldn't want to use him in a battle.
Me: Lucario, use double team!
Lucario: Yes...only after I go emo and do another pointless flashback.
Me: X_X
:lol
BTW, I was crusing on youtube when I found this guy who somehow got an early copy of the US version, and he posted the voice acting from the English version. His videos can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sitschei (http://www.youtube.com/user/Sitschei)
Personally, the voice acting is kinda lame for some of the characters, but meh, who cares anyways.
Welp, look forward to Brawling with you guys in 7 days. See you then. :wave
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Sonic almost sounds like an arrogant teenager. :p
Red team "had a bad day" with this match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID2JF_CMPQM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID2JF_CMPQM)
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Finally got my reservation, and I must say that once I get my Wii online, I'll look for you guys, and I'll take you on with Falco, Meta Knight, Lucario, and Marth or Ike!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whK6CxaRE6E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whK6CxaRE6E)
I just uploaded this....possibly the worst break you can get in sudden death.
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lol, Lucario got pwned at the last second. XD
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5b3GvELTtY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5b3GvELTtY)
People have started taking "funny pics" of characters being eaten, or sleeping, or in suggestive poses.....
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Well, this is it! The game launches at Midnight tonight. Who's ready to Brawl? :)
Get ready world! Kirby's going to PWN you all! ^^
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Doing my best to get my hands on this game tomorrow! I suspect that will be easier said than done. :p
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Hahah, tonight's the night! I'll be attending the midnight launch party with a few friends of mine. Time to get our Brawl on!
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I can't wait! Tommorrow is the big day! I won't be attending the midnight launch since I have work to do. (Curse you college) I will be getting the game around 12:00pmish tommorrow, though.
However, I won't be able to Brawl it out with you guys online right away. I have a busy week ahead of in...you guessed it, school. However, I am going to go Brawl happy during my Spring Break, which starts this Friday for me, so I can Brawl with anyone then, especially two certain people out there. *CoughKenicoughKacie* XD
BTW, we should probably post our Brawl friend codes in the Nintendo Wi-Fi section of the midnight topics.
Look forward to Brawling with you guys. :wave
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I won't have one so you won't be brawling me.
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*Holds up my copy of Brawl as the Zelda Item Get jingle plays* Yay! Finally! I got it!
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Got my copy :)
I'll post my friend code here tomorrow (or later today, depending on how you look at it). Right now, I need some sleep.
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Good news guys! I was able to go to the midnight part, too, so I got my copy of Brawl after all, and so far I'm LOVING it! It's awesome! I'll post my code in the Wi-Fi section later.
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I don't have my copy of it. I never preordered it, and I don't think my brother has either. I did check the video store today and they don't have it in yet. So I'll have to wait. Currently the only way I can play is if I rent it, and the video store usually only has one or two copies available, so it'll be a battle just to get it.
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Yoink! :D
Got my copy and ready to play anytime after today (I'm going to a brawl party with a few friends around here today). ;)
I'll post my friend code in the near future.
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I bought it. Heh, so far I'd say that I'm enjoying it, thoroughly. Its awsome!
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Yes! It's cool to know that SSBB is now abailable in the American continent! I'll get my copy when my bro's b-day comes on March 30th. YAY!!! I can't wait! *get's really excited*
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Don't make me wish I had $400 to spend frivously!!!! :P:
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I got the game early this morning and literally played it all day long with my brother and some friends. Definately an amazing game. I'm posting my friend code in the Nintendo WFC topic now.
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Now now...let us take a moment to thing of all those unfortunate Wii owners who are yet to obtain a copy of this beloved title...COZ IT'S NOT BLOODY WELL HERE YET!!! AARRRGGGHHH!!! :bang :lol
Just kidding. Don't worry, I'm not bitter. Just savouring for the time we can all officially jump online and batter ten tons of virtual sense outta each other! Europe's release has been projected for around the end of May. Til that time, I've taken up playing Melee again just so I can prep myself for when the Brawl finally heads our way. Seriously can't wait for this! Must be a damn slow cargo boat if it's gonna take two and a half months to cross the ocean :DD
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I live in the UK and I DO have Super Smash bros Brawl. It got sent to me today. and for those who are in the UK and want to play this Game and can't wait till May...I have got words that will solve your problem
"WII FREELOADER"
I going to play it alittle more and unlock the Brawlers before I start going online with it. I will post my code soon. METAKNIGHT IS AWESOME
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Why, why, why...
did they take out "bonus" mode in multiplayer? :angry: :cry :cry
My group of friends' favorite way to play SSB:Melee was in "bonus" mode, where you got points for style and performing various acts. Anyone who has played Melee knows what I'm talking about. This feature is Completely gone from Brawl, with even the point system being extremely limited in comparison (a few bonus points for completing single player mode, but absolutely NO point system in multiplayer).
This is a rather large concern for me because one of my friends really enjoyed bonus mode and finds it the only really respectable way to play SSB, as it penalizes people for playing cheaply and rewards creative playing styles. I actually agree with him, I really liked Bonus mode in multiplayer. Now we are limited to Time, Stock and Coin (I don't know anyone who plays Coin)...My precious Bonus mode still gives me a sole reason to go back to Melee once in awhile...a single serious blemish on an otherwise outstanding game!
*sigh* Why, Nintendo, is Bonus gone? I saw so much potential for new Bonus points and ways to get them but instead they removed the point system entirely...*sad* Looks like I might get dragged back to Melee once in awhile for this single reason. So much for Brawl being a game that could potentially last forever: the multiplayer modes are too limiting in Brawl (definitely cause for concern, as Brawl is primarily a multiplayer game...). It's amazing how much Bonus really adds to the game.
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Yeah i am quite disappointed myself that the bonus is gone. It was a big let down for me. :(
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Well, I've only played it for a few hours and I am quite shocked by it all.
I have yet to play The Subspace Emissary, but I'll try that once I get back from Windover tomorrow.
As for the Classic Mode, I must admit that it is quite different and harder than Melee's. Especially the battle before Master Hand where you face 3 computers.
I went and had several battles with the computers in the free for all Brawls. Usually, on Level 1, the comps can't get down many of my lives, but they proved to be tougher. They actually got down a good number of lives. Also note that I normally put items on HIGH, and they still can't do much normally. This time, I got to admit that they were good.
So far, I've gotten Luigi and Ness. I'm hoping to get Snake and Sonic soon. After all, I've chosen them as my main choices. Lucario is the final choice I've made for my top 4 choices.
I'll be willing to play on-line by at least Thursday. Here's hoping for the best. :)
And on a side note, I LOVE the music. It is all beautifully done.
As far as I see it, this is one game I doubt I'll EVER tire of. I'll be having fun with it for many years to come.
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I went and had several battles with the computers in the free for all Brawls. Usually, on Level 1, the comps can't get down many of my lives, but they proved to be tougher. They actually got down a good number of lives. Also note that I normally put items on HIGH, and they still can't do much normally. This time, I got to admit that they were good.
Tell me about it! Nintendo really improved the computer AI for Brawl, even on Easy and Lv 1 the computer players can be tough. I heard anything above Lv 5 in this game is extremely hard, many are even declaring Lv 9s are practically impossible to beat. First time I played the game I tried Classic mode on Easy and I lost two stocks. It was a shock to me at how much better the AI is this time around.
They really improved the difficulty.
Oh and just to warn you all who plan to play online soon. The game suffers some lag when playing online, and the 'With Anyone' option on Wi-Fi seems to be down or having problems, I've been seeing complaints of long waiting times and only manage to find one or no one to battle with. But the 'With Friends' option is working fine.
As for the lag, I've played a couple matches with more than one friend and I have suffered some bad lags on huge stages. But when I battle with just one friend the lag is always input lag, where your character takes one-two seconds to trigger the action.
Japan had this kind of problem when Brawl was first released there but it's been improved significantly as of now. I'm sure Nintendo will do the same for America soon considering the game was just released.
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0_o And I thought I was going crazy when I had difficulty facing a level 5. I couldn't have lost my touch that much, have I? They really made the AI tough this time.
Yeah, Nintendo mentioned that they need to fix the Wi-Fi or something like that. I heard rumors that they made need to realease a patch or something like that. Even at their website they mentioned they are having complications with the Wi-Fi.
Of course, I'm loving the game so far, but still a bit on the depressed side and school work have been getting in the way of enjoying it. I will battle with anyone online after Friday, so bring it on!
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I heard rumors that they made need to realease a patch or something like that.
Really? Where did you hear that?
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A couple of stages have music that is just....wha???? I'll get a match or two to link to if I can find one.
Glad to hear everyone's having fun.
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Brawl has an absolutely MASSIVE soundtrack, with hundreds of tracks to unlock/assign to stages. The music system in Brawl is actually very impressive. :)
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The music is posted on smashboards.com for dld.
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The music is posted on smashboards.com for dld.
Awesome thanks! Yes, this game DOES have a huge soundtrack, biggest i've seen so far in any game i've played. :^.^:
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Wow! Not only is The Subspace Emissary quite big for an add-on, but the storyline is vastly surprising. :)
In my opinion, people took it for granted because of certian rumors and such. However, you will find many to be false. In fact, playing The Subspace Emissary the whole way through is the secret way to easily getting most of the charcters. You will be able to get all but a few charcters this way. In fact, most of the charcters you won't have to battle to actually get them if you do this little thing. It is highly recommended for those who aren't too good at the brawls.
Now, the storyline is quite amazing. One minute you believe something about it all and then it just shatters it with some of the most surprising twists ever. In fact, near the end, it is quite shocking. Oh, and if you beat it, you get a full translated version of the opening song to boot. However, let's just say they were better off keeping it untranslated. At least, that is my opinion.
Regardless of everything, I suggest everyone to play it. It'll be well worth the 5 hours you'll more than likely spend trying to beat it. (Yes, it only took me that long.) With all the stuff it unlocks in the end, it's more than worth it to play. :)
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to try to find a new time to play on-line. I'll see ya later! :^.^:
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5 hours you'll more than likely spend trying to beat it. (Yes, it only took me that long.)
That is impressive. It took a friend and I (Yes you can play 2-player adventure mode) 9 hours to beat it on Hard difficulty.
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Wow Super Smash Bros. has been sucking up my life lately :lol . Its pretty much all i've done since sunday and i've managed to unlock all characters, stages, single player event matches, and finished subspace emissary. I completely agree with pokeplayer with the SSE. Impressive Storyline and twists and it was quite enjoyable to play.
I've also noticed the increase in difficulty, especially on insane for Classic and such (i got murdured on the first match in Classic :lol :cry) but i'm still able to take on a lvl 9 computer 1 on 1 with no items with Falco, with the computer taking 2/3 of my lives. I haven't tried facing a lvl 9 with my other characters yet, but i have a feeling that i won't be able to beat them.
Yeah i am quite disappointed myself that the bonus is gone
While it is a bummer that its gone, it won't affect me much as i only played maybe a total of 10 bonus matches, the rest just being stock matches w/o items.
Anyways, i'll try to be online on saturday and maybe sunday if anyone wants to challenge me.
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Wow Super Smash Bros. has been sucking up my life lately :lol . Its pretty much all i've done since sunday and i've managed to unlock all characters, stages, single player event matches, and finished subspace emissary. I completely agree with pokeplayer with the SSE. Impressive Storyline and twists and it was quite enjoyable to play.
I've had that encounter countless times, where i would play a game for so long it would seme i'd never stop playing it. :lol
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5 hours you'll more than likely spend trying to beat it. (Yes, it only took me that long.)
That is impressive. It took a friend and I (Yes you can play 2-player adventure mode) 9 hours to beat it on Hard difficulty.
Well, for one thing, I played mine on the easiest level. (I always start with that then work my way up when I feel ready for the next level. It makes me have a more enjoyable experience with the game.)
Also, let me guess, The Great Maze is what made you take so long, right? So confusing and all. :) There is a little secret to making it easier to navigate, thus making it faster. Each save point, which is marked by light red doors with a big yellow circle, has a Smash Symbol, where you can not only save but also get a map of the whole place. On top of that, it revives your lives and set your damage percentage to zero. It definately makes it SO much easier in the end. :)
Oh, and knowing you, Action9000, what do you think of the music, especially the opening song? :)
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Hey, guys! Just to let you Wii owners know I will be on from now until about 4:30, so if you want to Brawl let me know. Keni and I already had a few matches with each other, and despite the lag, we're having a blast. He and I got killed in Cruel Brawl in one second. XD Button Delay + Cruel Brawl = pwned. Lemme know if you guys wanna duke it out. BTW, Pokeplayer, I didn't get your Brawl code. Can you PM it to me when you get a chance? Look forward to Brawling with you.
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I'd brawl, but my computer is having some bad lagging problems right now, so i don't think i'd be able to for a while. :(
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I got Smash Bros Brawl the day it came out. Subspace Emissary is really fun. Until you get to the Great Maze.... And after that, Tabuu is a real pain in the butt..... So now I'm stuck wishing I knew how to dodge the seemingly undodgable attacks without using my shield. The only other thing I just have to gripe about is the overly sensitive analog controls. What if I DON'T want to jump??? >_< Other than that, the rest of the game is pretty good. ^^
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What if I DON'T want to jump???
Create a name and go into the "Controls" options. You can now disable tapping UP to jump! It's an incredibly useful feature. :wow Just remember to use this name when playing the game.
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(Wipes forhead) Aw, man. I just beat the game on Intense. It's a lot harder than Classic in the original Smash Brothers. X_X I didn't actually do have bad. I used two continues, but it was still hard.
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I beat Classic on Intense today as well. I also had to use 2 continues :lol . Probably would of only needed one if my partner never killed himself at the beginning of the first team match (I was left to fight Ike and Marth by myself and died like 3 times on them). Also, did you notice Kingdomkey 23 that Master Hand moves and attacks a lot quiker on Intense?
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lol, yeah I noticed. I could sometimes not get a hit on him with Ike. XD
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I've added my friend code to my sig.
All who want to add me to their list can do. Even if you hate me to the core I'll be willing to take you on.
The Kirby Master is ready to take on the world! <(^-^)>
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Clint recently bought SSBB, so I got it now. I'm..not too good with it. Then again this would be the first time I've played anything Smash Brothers-related. We never had an N64 and we never rented Melee for the Gamecube.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97pLNdNnOEk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97pLNdNnOEk)
Don't mess with D3. :o
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Man! Those are the kinds of moves my brother would call cheap. (Especially the grabbing the ledge so he can't one.) NOW you know how much of a n00b he truly is.
However, now he's made it tougher for me. He's changed his main charcter choice. No longer Ness, now it's Pit. Time to learn some new mechanics. :)
Well, see ya later! :^.^:
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i got a copy of super smash bros brawl
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Great! If you want you can post your SSBB friend code in the "Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection" (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=1282.60) topic so you can play online with other GoF members.
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Great! If you want you can post your SSBB friend code in the "Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection" topic so you can play online with other GoF members.
He won't be doing that. He's long-gone. ;)
Though if anybody *else* wants to post up their friend code in After Midnight as Flathead770 suggested, go for it! :D
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One week of smashing down......did Nintendo deliver a good game for all of you? :)
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You bet, Petrie! Especially with the fact that ScrewAttack has made this game the choice for Current Fighting Game at The Iron-Man of Gaming 2008.
Of course, it's the one-on-one, no items battle style. If I want to compete in such a competition, I'd better start getting good with that block button. :)
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I got my copy just today. I have been playing it for the pass ten or so hours. I have unlocked all of the characters except Sonic, Wolf and Toon Link. I also made it to "The Great Maze" in Subspace Emissary. Boy, this level is a pain. I just went an entire circle two times.
Wonderful game so far, and a fitting tribute to the children of the 80's, 90's and early 2000's. Now if only I can get pass the Maze and defeat Tabuu.
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He won't be doing that. He's long-gone.
heh, ya i just read about that and its kinda funny :lol .
One week of smashing down......did Nintendo deliver a good game for all of you?
Yep! The total run time ive put on that game is like 70 hours. I was finally able to beat boss battles on intense today...ah man, what a pain. I also only need about 10 more things to unlock in the "challenges" menu.
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BEWARE: SPOILERS
So I just conquered The Great Maze, fought an epic battle alongside Sonic the Hedgehog and defeated Tabuu.
Wow.
Sakurai really outdid himself this time. That was simply epic and I wouldn't mind seeing more. I only have a few characters left to unlock now. As it turns out, I only have Jigglypuff, Wolf and Toon Link left, each which I will unlock via Subspace Emissary. And even so, I still have more things to unlock.
Another freaky thing is, right when I was having trouble with The Great Maze, the Dojo site makes an update about it with a screenshot of the full map. That's rather convenient, no?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6GYBPNrrU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6GYBPNrrU)
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Is that your best shot? Here's a better one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ap32U--0yY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ap32U--0yY&feature=related)
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Is that your best shot? Here's a better one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ap32U--0yY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ap32U--0yY&feature=related)
FTW!
That just SO rocked!
Now, with that aside, I had recently tried Wiimote Only. It took a bit of getting used to, but once I got the hang of it, I was kicking butt. :^.^:
Hmm, outside of the WiFi, what else could I do that I haven't already done? ;)
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Oh, and knowing you, Action9000, what do you think of the music, especially the opening song?
One of the best opening tracks I've heard in a long time. B)
One thing I do appreciate about SSB:Brawl is that it's very artistic in general. It's almost "high-tone" when it comes to its content outside of the immediate fighting-game gameplay, with the beautiful visuals and remarkable soundtrack. I really see this as an artistic game and am *generally* very pleased with what they did with it.
I downloaded the full OST from smashboards as Petrie mentioned (it's 1GB and 313 tracks in total). While there are some tracks that disppointed me a lot, others were unexpected and truly well-done. Here are a few that stood out for me:
A remix of Mario Raceway from Super Mario Kart (SNES). This remix is fantastic and very elegant, with touches of both acoustic and synth elements.
A remix of Luigi raceway from Mario Kart 64. Another very well-done remix which I approve of. :)
Rainbow Road from MK: Double Dash. I never played this game to know whether this is a remix or not...I don't think this is a remix but I could be mistaken. It's a nice track though.
A wicked remix of the Castle theme from Super Mario World. B)
Remix of Bramble Blast (Donkey Kong Country 2): Okay, this is one I was very disappointed with. This track has been taken away from it's "beautiful" roots and thrown into a more upbeat style. I'm also not a fan of the instrument choices; they just seemed very unsuitable in general, even for the style that the track was remixed in
A few songs from Sonic Adventure, including "Open Your Heart" (Sonic's main theme), which I approve of.
A lot of the OST takes originals from other games and throws them directly into the game, as opposed to remixing them first.
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There is one bgm on one stage that is just....dull for a fighting game for the lack of a better term. The name is Animal Crossing or some stage like that.
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The other day I ran into a few overly-passionate lucario fanboys on DA that keep bashing Mewtwo fans. And for no reason at all, they kept making up extremely insulting, abusive, and extremely profane comments. I'm not even a fan of mewtwo and I couldn't help but shake my head in complete disgust. I made a bunch of screenshots in response to them. So here it is:
OWWWWWWW MY BRAAAAAAIN!
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/Halohacker/al_080328_1222.jpg)
Take that!
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/Halohacker/al_080328_1309.jpg)
And that!
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/Halohacker/al_080328_1320.jpg)
And that, and that, and that!
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/Halohacker/al_080328_13101.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/Halohacker/al_080328_1249.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/Halohacker/al_080328_1245.jpg)
I don't know if I should feel more sorry for Lucario, or for his two best friends. XD
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/Halohacker/al_080328_1315.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/Halohacker/al_080328_1238.jpg)
And he's outta there!
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/Halohacker/al_080328_12381.jpg)
Keep in mind that I DO NOT hate Lucario. I, as a matter of fact, like lucario. I just did this to tick off all the irritable fanboys that can't accept the fact that people are different.
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i dont have the game myself but a few of my mates do, most of them say its just other crap little kids game for the worst of the next gen consales :( there proable right cos i cant stand those type's of games after all im into games like saints row, just cause & gears of war
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Anybody who says Nintendo is for kids is obviously a dead-wrong noob. If they don't like Nintendo, then they've just claimed they're not real gamers without even doing anything. <_<
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Anybody who says Nintendo is for kids is obviously a dead-wrong noob.
Nintendo is for *anyone* who is interested. They've done a fantastic job as targetting a Huge range of gamers of many kinds. Calling Nintendo "not for kids" is just as inaccurate as saying it is "just for kids".
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The last I checked, Nintendo is something for the entire family to enjoy. It's not just for kids.
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right so my mate jason who complted gears of war in 4 hours the day he got it an't a real gamer and dont call my mates noob's b**** or else i'll unlease my eminem on you, not real games? the wii game's i dont even class as hard game's, everone i've got i've comleted easy as hell, look if you like Nintendo i dont mind but dont say thing like that man
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That's exactly my point. Nintendo is for everyone, not just for kids. If I didn't translate that correctly then I apologize. My charisma isn't exactly average.
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Bragging about your friend beating Gears of War in four hours on the same day he got it isn't really impressive. That game is notoriously short from what I heard...
Nintendo games can be quite hard. Maybe not hard to complete the game, but getting 100% on some of them can be hard. Have you played F-Zero GX? The one for the Gamecube? Yeah, that game is hard. And good luck getting 100% on that game, that's the real challenge of it.
Sure not all Nintendo games are insanely hard or anything, but that's not the point of gaming. Nintendo aims for making fun and enjoyable games, and boy do they deliver on that aspect. Super Smash Bros. is one of THE most enjoyable videogame series on the market and are played by everyone and even on a professional level.
Nintendo is not kiddy, they're for everyone.
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not if your looking for a chalnge, wii games are to easy for me, the only one i found as a bit of a chanlge was that zelda game, but if you like the wii just play it i dont mind if you do or dont
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And what about the Metroid Prime trilogy? They certainly weren't easy, even just to complete. But they were enjoyable nonetheless.
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dont call my mates noob's b****
I'm afraid asterisks don't hide what you're saying from either Cyberlizard nor myself. -_-
As stated in the board rules:
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Check your Personal Messages.
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Challenging or not, the important thing is if they're fun. I'd get a fun game than a very challenging game where the fun will be sucked right out of it because of the insane difficulty.
Take the game Ninja Gaiden for example for the NES. That game is INCREDIBLY hard to the point where you want to smash the controller into the ground. I tried (and I own) that game a hundred times but I rue the difficulty of that game. Fun the first few times, but then it gets annoying.
Damn birds floating on random pits hitting me to my doom! XD
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Nintendo games can be quite hard. Maybe not hard to complete the game, but getting 100% on some of them can be hard. Have you played F-Zero GX? The one for the Gamecube? Yeah, that game is hard. And good luck getting 100% on that game, that's the real challenge of it.
Sure not all Nintendo games are insanely hard or anything, but that's not the point of gaming. Nintendo aims for making fun and enjoyable games, and boy do they deliver on that aspect. Super Smash Bros. is one of THE most enjoyable videogame series on the market and are played by everyone and even on a professional level.
Nintendo is not kiddy, they're for everyone.
Quoted for the truth. Nintendo created a lot of great games, but they are targeted for a much diverse audience. Besides, not all Nintedo games are "kiddy" as you have rationalized them out to be. The Metroid Prime games were for an older audience. The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess had a dark atompshere to it, and it was rated T. The main thing here is the games are fun and enjoyable. Super Smash Brothers Brawl is one the funnest games to play, and agreeing to what Keni said, there are people who've play the game in major video game leauges.
BTW, mcr, you had no right to harrass Cyberlizard on this fourm. That's stirctly against site rules.
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Have you played F-Zero GX? The one for the Gamecube? Yeah, that game is hard. And good luck getting 100% on that game, that's the real challenge of it.
Yep, I have it! :) And YES, it is hard! :lol
Quoted for the truth. Nintendo created a lot of great games, but they are targeted for a much diverse audience.
So true. One thing I approve of, especially in Smash Bros: Five difficulties, ranging from very accessable to very difficult, even for experts.
BTW, mcr, you had no right to harrass Cyberlizard on this fourm. That's stirctly against site rules.
It's under control.
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Oh! And Contra! I know it's not exactly a Nintendo first party product. But good god, those games were what really defined hard. And their extremely challenging difficulty continues on the DS with Contra 4. I unlocked Contra on that game and I have Super C for the NES, and it took me a full month to beat Contra 4 on easy. I still have yet to finally complete it on Normal, then Hard.
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Ah yes, I heard Contra was a good game, but very hard.
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Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start.
The legendary Konami code that actually gives you a chance in Contra. XD
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Funny pictures Tanner. :p What makes you think Lucarios got any friends down there anyway? :lol:
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You know what I mean. xP Lucarios can breed in Diamond and Pearl. lol It's not like they're legendary and they don't have a gender. :lol
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Yet to see a female Lucario. :P:
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Yet to see a female Lucario.
What would it be called? Lucarina? :lol
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If you have Diamond or Pearl you already would have already seen a female Lucario. And if Lucario was legendary, then a gym leader AND the champion wouldn't have one. Lucario also has a pre-evolutionary form, Riolu. Need I say more. If you STILL don't believe me, ask any Pokemon fan that's "up-to-date" and they'll say the exact same thing.
To currently classify a Pokemon as legendary:
- The Pokemon must not evolve or have a pre-evolution.
- The Pokemon may have a gender, but must not be able to breed to create others of the same species (note that this does not exclude Manaphy).
- The Pokemon is found on a higher-than-normal level when special places are visited, or special events are fulfilled.
- The Pokemon is stated to be legendary in television shows or the game itself.
Lucario does not meet these qualifications - it is not legendary.
Some people may think it is legendary because of the movie - Lucario and the mystery of Mew, but it is just a special Pokemon that has the controll of something called the Aura.
Keep in mind, these are honest-to-god facts and not opinions.
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I wasn't doubting that Lucarios couldn't breed, and I've never played the games. Just seems that every Lucario shown outside of the games is male.
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That's probably because the Titular Lucario of the movie was a male, so everyone associates the name Lucario with being male.
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Take it from THIS die-hard Pokemon fan, Lucario IS NOT a legendary.
In fact, I shall now list EVERY legendary to clear it all up:
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Mewtwo
Mew
Raikou
Suicune
Entei
Lugia
Ho-oh
Celebi
Regirock
Regice
Registeel
Groudon
Kyorge
Rayquaza
Latias
Latios
Jirachi
Deoxys
Azelf
Mespirit
Uxie
Manaphy
Phione (Note: Still being debated upon)
Dialga
Palkia
Heatran
Regigigas
Giratina
Cresselia
Darkrai
Shaymin (Yes, that one IS Lengendary.)
Arceus
And to think, people write fanfictions of them having kids. (Though I'm guilty of doing the same.)
Also, to further prove that Lucario isn't always male, I have a female one thank you very much.
Well, I hope this clears up everything. If you have any further questions on Pokemon, please feel free to ask. :)
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Legendary Pokemon can't have kids? What about Lugia? Wasn't there an episode that involved a Lugia female and her offspring?
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OK...pokemon discussion aside...
*raises hand* Question for Brawl owners...
Was there a preview channel released on the Wii Shopping Channel for Brawl by any chance? If so, when was it released? I'm imagining (maybe moreso hoping) that Ninty would do the same thing they did for Metroid Prime 3 when that came out. Care to enlighten me on this?
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OK...pokemon discussion aside...
*raises hand* Question for Brawl owners...
Was there a preview channel released on the Wii Shopping Channel for Brawl by any chance? If so, when was it released? I'm imagining (maybe moreso hoping) that Ninty would do the same thing they did for Metroid Prime 3 when that came out. Care to enlighten me on this?
Nope. Brawl had none. Super Mario Galaxy didn't have one either.
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I saw a prewiev of it on a LAN in school, AWSOME!
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Which one's tougher...the male or female Lucario? :p :p
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Nope. Brawl had none. Super Mario Galaxy didn't have one either.
Bugger. :( Somehow I didnt think there would be. You were right to point out that Mario Galaxy didnt have a launch channel. Didn't think of that. Oh well...just gotta sit tight then I guess *sigh* :(
Which one's tougher...the male or female Lucario?
All I'll say is this...the female of the species is more deadlier than the male! :lol :p
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Amazon.co.uk has just updated it's release date for Brawl to 1st June. :cry
Until now it was listed as April 30th, and I was hopeful.
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I saw that too but I don't think that is right. Coz if you look at your calendar, 1st June is a Sunday. 95% of game releases are on a Friday. Gamestation are announcing 30th May (which happens to be a Friday) as are a few other places. I too was hoping very much for the launch date to be 30th April but I guess we've just gotta hold on a little longer. As annoying as it may be... :rolleyes:
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I saw that too but I don't think that is right. Coz if you look at your calendar, 1st June is a Sunday. 95% of game releases are on a Friday. Gamestation are announcing 30th May (which happens to be a Friday) as are a few other places. I too was hoping very much for the launch date to be 30th April but I guess we've just gotta hold on a little longer. As annoying as it may be... :rolleyes:
Well Brawl was released on the US on a sunday too. Which kind of sucked because I had school the next day and couldn't spend a lot of time on the game.
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I reserved my copy and got it the Friday after, so it was perfect timing!
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Bad news for European Brawlers...SSBB has apparently been knocked back EVEN FURTHER so we now have to wait even LONGER for it. :angry: Apparently, an inside source says that a few religious issues have arisen to which the game has been held back to rectify the problem. I don't know how solid this info is but it looks like Brawl is being held off now until June. What a cruel cruel world :cry2 :(
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i don't care, but okay...
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Religios issues? That's strange. What could there be in Brawl that's suitable for the american version, but too religiously sensitive for the european version?
I don't get why Nintendo keep doing this. If Galaxy and Mario Kart can be released close together in europe and america, why are nintendo games usually (Super Paper Mario, Metroid Prime 3, SSBB) delayed by 3 months?
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As I said before, I'm not 100% sure on the reason as to why Brawl has been delayed. But I for one am sick of waiting! So I did the honourary thing and imported it! :DD I've slapped my code up in the After Midnight section. Finally I can enjoy smacking the daylights outta everyone (in the nicest way possible of course :lol ). Not played it much yet but from what I've seen, it's all diamond dust. I love it! :^.^:
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27th June 2008 - Brawl has released in Europe.
And I got it on release day. :D
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I have played all three games. I own Melee and Brawl, and my brother owns the original. I must say, I only play as one character on all three of them, my favorite character in the entire trilogy: Jigglypuff. She can jump longer and move faster than a lot of other characters. How would I know if I only use her? Whenever I get a fighter, I always research it then pick the "weaskest" character. They have very low power but usually have more advanced, strategic moves. If someone is Bowser, I can't run up and start a slapping contest because I'd reach at least 100% in twenty seconds. I am very light so I get thrown off incredibly easlily. I cannot win with her by jamming the punch button on everyone. I have to think things through. I have found a wonderful strategy though. I mentioned it in another topic but this one is specifically about SSB so I'll elaborate here as well. I'm sure you're all aware of the one hit K. O. stick, otherwsise known as the Home Run Bat. I'm sure you're all also aware of its powerful, yet diffcult to pull off special ability. Besides randomly whacking opponents, if you take a moment, you can pull the bat back which gives your swing much more power. Why is called the Home Run Bat? If you know what a home run is, that is what the bat does if pulled back then released on an opponent. Now for a seasoned player, it is nearly impossible to fall victim to this, since pulling the bat back takes extra time and it's obvious to the opponent(s) what you're trying to do so they'll get away quite easily. But remember who I am? My opponents can't run from me while they're sleeping, now can they? I know there isn't always a bat around, but people that know me try to get it as soon as possible when one appears. Besides, two on two works nicely as well when I'm with a strong partner like Bowser, Donkey Kong, or Ganondorf because they can pummel who I pass out.
A lot of people call her a joke and couldn't imagine being beaten by one. All the more satisfying to win with her. What is more impressive? Winning with the "best" character or the "worst"? Isn't it surprising to see someone one third the size of his opponent actually win the fight? I learned one method at getting good at that game. Find your best character and stick with him or her. Don't let your brain get confused trying to master twenty different styles. You want to be good at numbers. You go to one school and they only teach math. You go to another school where you have to study math, language, history, science, speech, psychology, and social skills. Which school will you have an easier time mastering numbers? My belief in a multi character game, variety is fun, but a single focus increases your chance of victory in the long run. But the funny thing is, not counting any power at all, Jigglypuff is my favorite character on those games anyway. Loved her in the show, loved her in the game. How ironic for me to always pick the weakest character in every game only to get my favorite one this time! Now I can keep my character picking pattern and finally love who I'm using at the same time. Since my brain only knows Jigglypuff, I have nothing else to interrupt my thoughts when I control her. I love these games and I hope they keep coming out (as long as they keep you-know-who in the arena). These are the methods I use when I approach games like this. What are yours? Later!
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Well, I didn't notice this one here!
I've been a fan of Smash Bros. ever since I played the first game, due to the fact that it unites the most common characters of games.
I'm a dedicated player to Yoshi, but can switch between any Link and Ness. I'm a decent player with the rest of them, and a most horrid one with Sonic. ._.
Reffering to TFS, I feel admired for the capability of mastering a character like Jigglipuff, due to its low resistance. However, she does have a great KO strike with B-Down, and each of the B's is dangerous.
I've already been asked which character was te strongest to use (since SSB isn't such a famous game here) and all I've answered was to pick the one that person would feel better off with, since the character's strength depends on the player. I feel like I've confirmed my "theory" about it, am glad I did, since Jigglipuff players need to be very good to handle such character.
Also, playing, I'd say, isn't just about how fast you hit A or shield and strike, but abut your strategy. There's no need to be planning a strategy out of the game, but its always good - for you - to know what you'll do, since you won't go dandling around with a Link striking A's when you know it simply won't work.
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Thank you for the compliment. It was a really nice thing to say.
There is something I really wonder about: Does anybody here use Pokemon Trainer? He actually doesn't do any fighting on his own, but commands a first form, second form, and final form pokemon- 1 Squirtle, 2 Ivysaur, and F Charizard. From what I've heard, out of those three, Squirtle's attacks are weakest but fastest, Charizard's are strongest but slowest, and Ivysaur is well balanced. You can actually switch at any time during battle. If Jigglypuff wasn't my character, it would be him, because from what I've seen of him, I have dubbed him my second favorite character. Is he better than a lot of characters? I mean, I assume he is better than Pikachu because he is one pokemon while the PT has three. Am I wrong in thinking so? I think Lucario and Mewtwo are still better than PT since those two pokemon seem to have just about everything going for them without needing to switch off, but is PT preferred these days over the electric mouse? If anybody has used him or he is somebody's signature character, I would like to know what your thoughts are on him. I mean, before, someone picks one character that is fast or strong or wellrounded. With PT from the new Brawl, you can have them all at once. He seems a very logical choice, but I don't hear of many people with him as their signature. Is he not as great as I think? What is the Pokemon Tainer all about?
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Mewtwo and PT would never meet, so that's hard to compare. Oh and Jiggly has the *POUND* move which pretty much will KO any character above 60% damage. I was never very good at making the move work, but its there (on Melee anyway).
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The gist (or appeal) behind the Pokemon Trainer (PT) is that he was designed to use the first three pokemon you could select in the first ever pokemon games (red and blue) for Gameboy. These pokemon were at three different evolutionary stages. All three pokemon share the same damage meter (obviously) and overuse of any one pokemon actually decreases their attack strength (the idea is that you evenly use all three rather than constantly using one). As Explorer says, any character can be a top-leveled fighter if used correctly. Your strategy to playing is key. Someone who attacks constantly can be dodged and countered easily. A player who overuses his shield too much is prone to grab and throws. If you can master and utilise attack and defensive strategies you're well on your way to racking up wins.
If I had to pick a favourite, I'd either say Yoshi (his Super Dragon Final Smash is formidable!) or Toon Link but I can use all characters in any Brawl. My weakest is probably Olimar but I can still kick keester with him when necessary :D
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Thank you for explaining this to me. I've known that using the same attack will weaken it, but I never would have guessed that using one of the PT's pokemon too long would weaken it too. I guess that makes sense. If the creators wanted you to only play as one of them if you wanted, they would have made them separate characters or allowed using just one per battle. Now it seems the PT is a more advanced character. You can't just be a speed master or power master because having to switch means you need to be good at both! Now I see why a lot of people don't have him as a signature: they can't use their preference and are forced into using different styles throughout each battle. I wonder if he's harder to use then Jigglypuff...? Oh well. She's my preference and I'm sticking with her after all our time together. I appreciate all the interesting facts you provided for me. Later!
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Brawl's one of my favorite group games, aside from Marioparty - one of the few that I can get a couple of people around here to play. For me, Bowser fits my style fairly well - I love to run in and pummel things, though Bowser's speed leaves much to be desired for the running department. I just love chasing people around as Giga Bowser, though :D Though falling through a hole can end that real quick if you get too focused on your targets... Grr Green Hill and your collapsing floor section...
Other than him, I tend to play as either Meta Knight or (if I'm feeling really cheap) Pikachu, with the occasional Fox thrown in. As with almost everything, I rely fairly heavily on luck when I play, since I don't have that much in the way of skills.
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oh. i found a ssb thread.
well, no more wasting time.
i own all three of them and love them.
BUT: first playing brawl, it appeared a little slower to me, than melee. not a bad thing for my brain. bad were some of the changes, they made. i don't mean, which char was put in, which one was dropped. (don't know, how to express clearly) it's too easy. no wave dash anymore, wave dance harder to use, multiple air dodge possible, no more edge guarding...requires less skill, if you know what i mean.
speaking about the changes at the chars, i first have to say that nintendo did good removing the clones...to a large extent. How they did... Falco and Fox have different move sets, now, still alike but no clones (same with wolf. no clone.) Ness and Lukas are discussable, but someone's not: Captain Falcon. Gee, they took away his Knee of Justice along with his Nipple Spike and thus his manliness!! WAH! same with some other chars. Ganon's attacks own, but does he move?? Bowser? Infinity Claw's gone. don't want to complain too much, but brawl seems to be designed as a party game for casual gamers - bad for pros and those who want to become pros.
enough complaint.
for those who care about my chars:
in melee it was Falco in the beginning, then Yoshi, now Dr. Mario. i don't stick too hard to them.
in brawl my favs be Yoshi again, after an enormous boost, such as Pikachu. again, don't choose them only.
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Does anybody here use Pokemon Trainer?
i've played as him a couple of times, he would be cool to get good with, i just don't have the time to practice with him anymore (especially cause i already play many chars). Also, my friends don't come over and play it much anymore, and playing by yourself gets kinda boring after a while.
it's too easy. no wave dash anymore
first off, wave dashing wan't supposed to be even in melee. I have disagree in it being too easy. 1 vs. 1 against a lvl 9 com is way harder now (even more so with the "mult-air dodge" mentioned, as its a lot harder to follow up and continue to juggle them.)
i find for the most part, that a lot of the balancing of the characters is as lot better, especially ganondorf, as you mentioned that he is slowed down. In melee, he was one of the better chars, being the fastest heavyweight, pretty fast attack speed as well (especially his weak A attack, extremely fast, doing 7% a hit, and can block most other attacks, smashes included), really good power, quite a good recovery surprisingly, and about as much knock back resistance as bowser (without being as big as target). With brawl, they made him move more like heavyweight and slowed his attacked speed down a tad. He's still amazing though, just a bit more balanced (im a big ganondorf user).
Captain Falcon. Gee, they took away his Knee of Justice
are you talking about his forward A in the air? cause he still has it, i think the timing might be a bit harder, i dunno, never played C. Falcon to much myself.
i first have to say that nintendo did good removing the clones...to a large extent. How they did... Falco and Fox have different move sets, now, still alike but no clones (same with wolf. no clone.) Ness and Lukas are discussable
i agree, they put more effort into making them feel like they're not as "clone" like.
as for my chars:
-Falco (been playing him for about 6 years now, and is my best char, especially for 1 vs 1)
-Ganondorf (played as him in melee cause he's fun to play as, and got good as him. Tend to use him for free for alls)
-Yoshi (started playing as him in melee, i guess i was bored lol. sweet char, but i don't play him very often anymore)
-Samus/ Zero Suit (Being a huge metroid fan, i have to play as samus :lol . pretty good with her.)
-Olimar (I love it when you kill someone with him and your friend doesn't realize how he died lol. Difficult to use, bad recovery, but can actually kick some a**. Heres a video of me vs my friend with him http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=772...335091&hl=en-CA (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7727031089382335091&hl=en-CA) )
-Peach ( used to play here a lot in melee, not so much anymore.)
and i better stop with her, cause i could still name chars that im not bad with.
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Question...
Does anyone look to take Brawl online at all? If there is anything I could winged about with Brawl is the horrible lag that it has online. Despite this, I still do play Brawl online but I really do hope (or wish) that they would improve the sluggish pace of online Brawling. If they can make something as smooth as Mario Kart run online then surely the concept can be applied to Brawl right?
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Question...
Does anyone look to take Brawl online at all? If there is anything I could winged about with Brawl is the horrible lag that it has online. Despite this, I still do play Brawl online but I really do hope (or wish) that they would improve the sluggish pace of online Brawling. If they can make something as smooth as Mario Kart run online then surely the concept can be applied to Brawl right?
I wish I could even USE the online mode. I've heard its effective, but I don't know how much, or if it lags much.
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Does anyone look to take Brawl online at all?
No, I haven't played online in a really long time. Most of friends who have the game don't play it much anymore, so why i've kinda stopped. In fact, the only times i really play anymore are the rare occasions my friends come over and request to play it.
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Does anyone look to take Brawl online at all?
did it. more than just one time. every time it was a hell of a lag - almost two seconds.
are you talking about his forward A in the air?
i indeed am and in brawl the attack looks actually the same, BUT IT AIN'T THE KNEE OF JUSTICE!! it just doesn't pwn hard enough...
first off, wave dashing wasn't supposed to be even in melee.
but it was there, and that was good, right? and please don't tell me, you don't miss that incredible great glitch.
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first off, wave dashing wasn't supposed to be even in melee.
but it was there, and that was good, right? and please don't tell me, you don't miss that incredible great glitch.
Y'know, that's why wall kicks were added into the Mario universe, and subsequently, here (either that, or it's ridiculous coincidence that SMB-SMB3 all had wall jump glitches)
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mah favourite is snake, who joins me in that?
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i indeed am and in brawl the attack looks actually the same, BUT IT AIN'T THE KNEE OF JUSTICE!! it just doesn't pwn hard enough...
ahh ok.
but it was there, and that was good, right? and please don't tell me, you don't miss that incredible great glitch.
meh, i've been doing just fine without it.
mah favourite is snake, who joins me in that?
ya, i find him to be a pretty fun character to play every once in a while, never really tried to get really good with him though.
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argh, has anyone gotten 100% on the Subspace Emissary yet? I'm stuck at 99%, just need to finish the Bomb factory area, the one where you fight Meta Ridley at the end, i've played through the level like, 20 times and haven't completed it yet.
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Lucky you, I'm stuck in 97%. robably, its about how many lives you lose or the flags or the difficulty. I'm driving mad trying to reach the 100%.
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To gain a crown for a stage, you have to go through every door and collect every item (including hidden ones). I'm only about 93% complete on my Emissary. I really don't wanna have to do the Great Maze coz it's just so sodding big! :(
(Lighter note: WooHoo! Just clocked my 2,000th post! Wikid! :DD )
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i know that you have to get all the items in the level, thing is, i have no clue to where it may be. It must be something really sneeky (like in the Halberd, theres a secret where you have to blow a whole in the roof somewhere, did it completely by accident), or its so darn obvious that i just don't realize. ungh.
really don't wanna have to do the Great Maze coz it's just so sodding big!
Ya i know what that feels like, i was lucky enough though to pretty much get everything on my first run through it.
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There is one thing I absolutely love about all the Super Smash Brothers games.
(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo330/ThEbRoWnOnE18/ultimateownage.png)
The Falcon PUNCH!
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Hey Gang!
Just to let you all know, to honour and effectively test out Explorer's newly found net connection, the stated party along with myself are looking to house a few Brawl matches tonight (or today depending on your time zone :p ). We're starting around 9pm (GMT-0) and are liable to be playing a few bouts. If you've got the free time, please come and join us in this battle for supremacy! (Or for just the kicks of it all :lol)
If this all goes well, we can hopefully look to a few more bouts on some other days this week. But still, got pad? Will play? Come join! ;)
Cya there Brawlers! :D
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All the Game Franchise Rocked.
Pikachu and Samus were my best for SSB 64
Falco and Link for the Melee
and for Brawl Sonic including Falco and Link.
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woot, i finally managed to get 100% on subspace emissary and guess what happens? absolutely nothing! I thought i might at least get a notice or something. I actually can't believe it, my friend decided to play through the level with me and he found it first try, talk about embarrassing :lol. Now all i really need is about 20 more trophies and approx. 50 more stickers then i have pretty much everything done. If anybody needs help with the SSE, i'll be glad to try and help (except for maybe the Great Maze, i don't enjoy looking for the secrets in that level. Sorry LF1616).
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If anybody needs help with the SSE, i'll be glad to try and help (except for maybe the Great Maze, i don't enjoy looking for the secrets in that level. Sorry LF1616).
LOL that's cool man! To be honest, I wouldn't expect any additional input on that stage coz it's just so bloody big! In further honesty, I haven't pick Brawl up in yonks and I've still got a ton of things to do. When Brawl was due for release, I got impatience with waiting for the European version coz the launch date kept getting pushed back. I, rather foolishly, imported Brawl with a region-free software disc. Sadly, but not unexpected, with the updating firmware of my Wii, the software disc became ineffective. So I had to start everything pretty much all over again coz the file types were also incompatible with each other. Meh, oh well. I've got all characters, stages and done the Challenges. Just got all the trophies, stickers and the like to re-acquire! :DD
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99%... o.o 99%... I need 1%... where are you?!
I mean, what do you need?! I've completed every single stage, went to every single corner of the maps and defeated every single enemy in INTENSE! Why does it not raise?!
Oh well.
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One relative of mine have SSBB and she had trouble with the maze I helped her out, it was pretty tough.
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the percentage is based off of how many of those cube things you've found (when you hit them trophies or stickers come out). To tell if you've gotten them all in a level, the stage will have a crown symbol on it (on the map screen). If its not complete, the stage will only have a flag on it. So if you could tell me which level you need to complete i'll try and help.
In further honesty, I haven't pick Brawl up in yonks and I've still got a ton of things to do.
I almost never play the game by myself anymore. Only when my friends are over and want to play. The only reason i actually attempted SSE again was because my friends and i were bored and the game was still running.
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I hear ya Flathead! As much as Brawl has so much more pumped into the Single player, it is a multiplayer game at its core. Hence why it tends to lose its playability quickly when you're on your own. I've taken Brawl online a couple of times but it's strictly hit and miss if I'll get a game nowadays (think it's popularity has somewhat fizzled out now). Still, having said that I've never willingly part with Brawl coz it's just such an awesome game as no two fights are ever the same. :DD I'd still like to get a SSBB tourney going with the forum but I need to rethink the construction of it since the previous attempt was a complete flop. (TOURNIMENT FAIL!!! :lol)
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One thing about this Game though its a lot harder than the Melee. I know Super Smash Bros. needed some improvements but the computer player fighting style is cheap. I hate the shields in the Brawl series, i mean back in melee time pressing softly on the L or R button easily actives the shield, now you got to press the button all the way down for the shields to come up making it take long to pop up.
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I'd still like to get a SSBB tourney going with the forum but I need to rethink the construction of it since the previous attempt was a complete flop.
are you talking about those Sunday matches that were being held weekly a long time ago? Because of my inconsistent activity and forgetfulness i missed all those matches. So if theres plans for some matches i'm definitely interested. I'm pretty much done exams now, so apart from hopefully getting a job, i'll have quite a bit of spare time.
I know Super Smash Bros. needed some improvements but the computer player fighting style is cheap
Yea i know how that feels. Its like the computer is always one step ahead of you. It can be especially frustrating when your playing as a character your not that good as yet.
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are you talking about those Sunday matches that were being held weekly a long time ago?
That's what I was referring to. Clearly, it's was a little too difficult for you guys to dedicate areas in your busy lives to jump on at a given time. I understand that. Everyone has different daily timetables so it was a little naive of me to think that I could weasel the idea into people's personal lives (particularly on a weekend). Still, I am in the process of re-formulating how we can go about matching up. I'm possibly thinking getting one of the combatants to record the progress. This way the time constraint can be lengtened and the stress of getting on at a given time. From this I had the idea of creating a league table or maybe just a knock-out tourney. It all depends on numbers basically (the more the better) so voices of interest will be appreciated from this point onwards. ;)
Yea i know how that feels. Its like the computer is always one step ahead of you. It can be especially frustrating when your playing as a character your not that good as yet.
I normally don't have that many issues with the CPUs (I normally battle with 3 CPUs at level 7 or higher in a Free 4 All). The only thing that does annoy me is how that the CPUs do tend to "pick" on human players even with 2 other CPU opponents besides itself. Especially with Smash Balls and the Dragoon! They seem to actively hunt down human players all over the map just to get their Final Smash on them as if we're an easy target. I have proved otherwise on some occasions but it is irritating that they will travel and scale the entire stage just to get to you to pick you off.
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Well, instead of having a fight at an appointed time every week, we could organize a real tournament and instead fight on dates that are appointed after the anterior battle.
As in, we organize a table where the combatants are.
Then, a battle is held, say, 00:00 GMT Sunday. The next battle's date isn't still marked. To prove it was made at that day, one of the fighters gives out a video of the fight. Not needed, but I think it's good proof.
Then, according to the availability of the next two fighters, the date for the next match is appointed.
Now, I don't know if this was already suggested, but anyway, I'll leave it here. Just in case, eheh.
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I normally don't have that many issues with the CPUs (I normally battle with 3 CPUs at level 7 or higher in a Free 4 All). The only thing that does annoy me is how that the CPUs do tend to "pick" on human players even with 2 other CPU opponents besides itself. Especially with Smash Balls and the Dragoon! They seem to actively hunt down human players all over the map just to get their Final Smash on them as if we're an easy target. I have proved otherwise on some occasions but it is irritating that they will travel and scale the entire stage just to get to you to pick you off.
Yea. Also, they go after the person with the higher percentage. I've had it where my friend and I are playing on a team against 2 lvl 9s and im at a really high percent and get sent flying across the stage, both computers pretty much run past my friend without bothering him and start to edge guard me. I usually don't have a problem with the computer at all, just when i play as someone that im not good as.
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I have Melee and Brawl. Melee was good, but I think Brawl is the best Smash Bros., because Wario (as a playable character) and Waluigi (as an assist trophy) are in it! Wario is my favorite character of all time! He looks so good, and he's strong! The first time when I heard that Wario is a playable character, I thought that he would be very slow, but he isn't! He moves really fast, and he could be as fast as Sonic with his motorcycle!
And I also love his Ultra Smash, he looks so sexy (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/wario/wario_071128b-l.jpg)... I love it!! :D
With texture, model, music and stage hacks it'll never be boring! My favorite texture hack is definitively "Wario as Spike The Foreman". Look here: :D
http://elitesmashhackers.wordpress.com/200...cking-crew-day/ (http://elitesmashhackers.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/wrecking-crew-day/)
But unfortunately I'm very bad at playing any Smash Bros. games. :( If I play without "AUTO handicap" enabled, I'll lose against my friend every time. I only win when he starts with a damage of 50%.
Anyway, it's really much fun to play this game!
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I haven't picked up SSBB from ages but it will always have a top review from my point of view. Does anyone else play Brawl much anymore? As with many things I guess, as time presses on things go out of fashion. Might go and pick it up again just for nostalgic purposes :DD
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I always liked playing as Link for two reasons :
1. he has some of the best combos yet.
2. The LOZ games rock my world.
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I still play Brawl all the time with my friends at Lycoming. We have so much fun with it. I guess once Modern Warfare 2 and games like that started coming out the Wii started getting left in the dust, which is a shame because Brawl is an amazing game.
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I sometimes get Brawl out for nostalgic purposes. When I do play, I usually play as Sonic, Mario/Luigi, Pikachu, or Jigglypuff.
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I own Melee and Brawl.
I like them both equally but I use only one character: Zelda (Brawl) and Sheik (Melee).
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Link is a firm choice for me but funnily enough, I'd have to say that my most successful character for Brawling has to be Yoshi! I don't know why, I just play really well with Yoshi! Most of my logged wins when I play is with the funky green dino! he's my secret weapon :lol
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If I had to select my best characters the list would go like this:
1st Choice: Link, Kirby, Zelda/Shiek
2nd Choice: Pokemon Trainer, Ike, Samus
3rd Choice: Pikachu, Captain Falcon, Fox