The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => Land Before Time TV Series (2007) => Topic started by: landbeforetimelover on July 02, 2007, 04:56:06 PM
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I would love it if it were the gang of five again. The gang of seven just doesn't seem right. They can reappear every now and then, but I think they should make an episode about how Ruby and Chomper's parents come and pick them up to leave the great valley. I have never been a big fan of Ruby. Chomper's okay, but him living with leaf eaters for much longer is just so improbable. What do you think?
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I think it would be best to keep Ruby and Chomper until the very last episode of the entire series. It just wouldn't feel like the TV Show without them as 2 of the main characters instead of just secondary characters.
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They stay, Chomper is the best, and wouldnt feel right without ruby now.
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I found it cool having them in it now, I have to agree with raidpirate15. Plus I am at the moment making a LBT story with Ruby and Chomper part of it.
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im neutral. I like the idea of having the original gang, but at the same time Ive grown fond of ruby and ive always liked chomper so i dont mind if they stay.
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I have not yet seen enough of the TV series to make a good judgement. The question is whether or not the two characters are adding something that hadn't been there before and if the other characters get enough spotlight (I recall we had discussions about Ducky, Petrie, and Spike being somewhat neglected in some direct to video / DvD sequels; with two more characters the matter may grow worse). As of now, from what I have seen so far I can't say I have grown as attached to Chomper and Ruby as of the rest of the gang. I consider the movies and the series two somewhat different matters.
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I consider the movies and the series two somewhat different matters.
Me too. I hope they just keep the series confined to the series and don't let it bleed into the sequals. My greatest hope is that they just use the tv series to make extra money so they can spend more time and effort on the sequals. ;)
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Well, we are at the point where the first season is near it's end. Whether or not we get a second season is questionable, as Universal has yet to reveal any plans for whether or not they will make one. It simply comes down to whether or not Universal will decide to make a second season.
Now, if it is coming to an end, I suspect that the last eps will basically have Red Claw finally biting the dust and Ruby and Chomper leaving. If it's not ending, then they might show a way within the TV Series that they are making a second one. How exactly, is questionable.
Now, as for whether or not I want Ruby and Chomper to stay, I will admit that I have grown a little fond of Ruby, but is she really benefitting anything? To me, she seems to be nothing more than Chomper's babysitter while he's in the valley. Plus, I've always liked Chomper, but I never thought of him fitting in with the residents of the valley because he's a sharptooth and him not being there was, like, "the law". :lol: So, in the end, I do want them to stay, but I don't think they will even if I wanted them to. :)
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I Do think that Runy was brought in so thatr there would be one of each species among the 7.Personally, I wouldn't have minded having Ali as a permanent member of the gang.. and them adding Chomper as. Ruby really hasn't established herself, She seems to be knowledgable, but i just haven't warmed to her..
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As long as they only stay during the tv series but not in the films i'd be fine with that.
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I would prefer them to stay - I already got used to them, and Chomper is one of my favourite characters. But I agree that they should have explained better, how did Littlefoot and the others manage to convince the grown-ups ( especially such racists as Cera's father) accept Chomper's presence in the valley.
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Well, we are at the point where the first season is near it's end. Whether or not we get a second season is questionable, as Universal has yet to reveal any plans for whether or not they will make one. It simply comes down to whether or not Universal will decide to make a second season.
26 sequels were announced unless I'm very mistaken. Have 26 sequels been shown by this time?
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26 episodes Malte would make two seasons.
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Nope, that one season. those 26 is one whole season I can tell you that for sure and that was something Aria and her mum told me last year.
As I know of only 23 been shown, there three more in the season to go in Canada and the 26th one is going to be a cool one. that what I been told by Aria and her mum, they said they couldn't tell me much but being a very special one that explains one of the friends point of view of seeing the world in their eyes.
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So if there is a second season there will be 26 more spisodes. Let's hope they bring Ali back in a few of them, and I hope they give me more of a role and explore her background since she last saw them, in detail.. I wouldn't be opposed to having a 2 or 3 parter where one of the parents becomes ill and they have to find a cure that only exists far away from the Great Valley..
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I wouldn't be opposed to having a 2 or 3 parter where one of the parents becomes ill and they have to find a cure that only exists far away from the Great Valley..
A new story would be better than a mere repetition though.
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Wayne, most animated shows consider 13 episodes one season and the reason this is largely is due to time and money constraints. I know most tv shows consider 26 episodes a season, and 13 a half of one, but not all series' are the same. What does Universal say?
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I don't mind if Chomper and Ruby stay in the Great Valley, but I'd like to see them reunited with their parents, I mean, if they're not deceased (heaven forbid).
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I don't mind if Chomper and Ruby stay in the Great Valley, but I'd like to see them reunited with their parents, I mean, if they're not deceased (heaven forbid).
Yeah Chomper's parents in the valley. That'll be a hoot. :lol
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no way keep them this would ruin the land before time series if they were gone no land before time character should be forgotten. :yes
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This poll is missing an "abstain" choice. Sure, losing the two would make the series about the gang of five, but Chomper is pretty much an honorary member of the gang. I wouldn't like it to get rid of Chomper from the series. He should appear, but not in every episode. Ruby should also stay, but she should appear much more sporadically than Chomper. She wasn't even originally from the movies to start with. Chomper was in the second movie, however. However, why would their parents come and pick them up? And for that matter, how would Chomper's parents get their son back? They can't just walk into the Great Valley and pick him up, like a normal parent would his/her child from day-care. And how would Ruby's parents even find her? It would be too complicated to explain to the audience why two of the main characters are leaving. However, the two main characters that would be leaving are more like sub-main characters when compared with the gang of five.
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It would be indeed difficult for Chomper's parents to pick him up, they'd have to send a message by Ruby's parents likely. Ruby's parents know they are both in the great valley, though they've not said if either of her parents know how to get into the great valley.
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Meanwhile I have seen more of the TV episodes than I did when I last time responded to this thread. If there is to be another sequel (hope) I think it would be an option to give some more information on why and how Chomper and Ruby came to the Great Valley, how they got to know each other, how Chomper got of the island, what happened to his parents, and how the two (Chomper in particular) managed to be tolerated in the Great Valley, even by characters like Cera's dad.
A good deal of the beginning of such a story would have to focus on the mysterious beyond and Ruby and Chomper only, which is why I don't think it is likely to be realized by the producers of LBT.
I'm still not entirely certain about the idea of having the GOF turned into a GOS, but the episodes I have seen reinforced the impression I had after watching the first few episodes, namely that they really can take on seven characters and still avoid neglecting anyone of them. Ruby and Chomper both add something to the gang that hasn't been there in that form before, so they don't come across like kind of character just thrown in to have the element of a "new character" without anything new to it. I cannot be really certain if the future inclusion of Ruby and Chomper would be a good idea, but I certainly would not oppose any attempt in that direction.
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I will never support such a seven ganged group. It's just not right. I mean, it's been the GOF for 13 movies! I think they should conclude the TV series with a goodbye from Ruby and Chomper. They would be great as guest characters, however I doubt they would be very good in a sequel where it's not so........action packed and focused more on actions than anything else.
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Will there even BE second season?
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That's the big question :unsure:
As of no we don't have any official hint whatsoever if there will be a second season and / or an LBT 14 or if in fact the last land before time movie has been produced already.
Perhaps it is for this sense that there might be nothing more to come that I'm far from being in a hurry to watch LBT 13 and the last few TV episodes I haven't watched yet. Once I'll have seen them there is no way to reverse it and if indeed there is nothing more to come the "Vorfreude" (joy of anticipation) which LBT provides would be gone forever. :(
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i hope that there is a second season i love watching the land before time it has really come a long way it is my favorite movie but what ever happens i will still be a very loyal lbt fan i have alot to watch and look back at all 13 lbt movies and the series also i hird the 14th movie may have Chomper in it on another webpage but i dont know for sure on this it would be good to have him in another movie with the gang of 5. :yes that is if there is another one.
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Which webpage did you hear about this?
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on wikipedia
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That isn't a very reliable source...
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thats true :yes
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i hate the tv show but i like ruby & chomper
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Well, I sorta wish it was just the gang of five, but you can't just drop off Chomper and Ruby and act like nothing happened. Hell, you might even have to kill them off!
Just kidding :D
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I guess most here would prefer Ruby to be tossed out and keep Chomper. I do like Ruby though some really dislike her. There is at least 1 episode she does not appear in, I"ll not say which one to avoid spoilers, which I've said to much of today.
I still find it a bit odd that the series has a shorter format and more members in the gang, though to me it seems to be done well.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you, Kor. ...What's so bad about Ruby? She is a unique, fresh character, for crying out loud!
Oops, gotta go - LBT 12 is ACTUALLY ON CARTOON NETWORK!!
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have fun then,
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I wholeheartedly agree with you, Kor. ...What's so bad about Ruby? She is a unique, fresh character, for crying out loud!
Oops, gotta go - LBT 12 is ACTUALLY ON CARTOON NETWORK!!
Sadly, i missed it because of School and i've never seen that one before. :mad
Maybe it's Ruby's personality that causes some people to dislike her? Like the way she talks sometimes? I'm just guessing, though.
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...Yeah, she does kind of have a sort of... Oxymoronic redundancy about her, but that's part of her charm!
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Part of the reason some do not like her is change, many people dislike any sort of change in a series. Chomper is more tolerated since one could say he was briefly a part of the gang in the second movie, so he is tolerated in the tv series and the 5th movies perhaps because of that.
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...Change is one of the very essences of life... It affects EVERYTHING... Whether we want it to, or not...
I see Ruby as a fresh perspective, a new twist. Given enough time, and more character development from her perspective, I'm certain that others would be willing to accept her, as well... I couldn't see Land Before Time without her, now... Or Chomper... That's why I was surprised with the 13th movie, at first... But then, I accepted it, and THEN, of course, could hardly get enough of it...!
None can escape the inevitable changer, Time.
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I think there is another side of the problem. Ruby is a very bright character, if she will be the part of gang that would be hard to take LBT down to it's dark, serious and tragic roots. And some people really want that to happen... I suppose so, at least. :)
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Oh, she has her dark moments, too... They all do. (Well, except for Spike... And maybe Petrie...) Although, it's more of a "concerned" thing, than anything else; in "Return to Hanging Rock" she scolds, uhh... Ducky, Spike, and uhh... Haven't seen that episode enough... For going with her to find her family, because they would slow her down...
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I love these two characters. I personally don't believe they should be removed.
Ruby is an example of a young girl whose strong, but she's kind and loving as well. Unlike Cera, who is strong to the point of being stubborn completely and very mean, and Ducky is not very strong, but she is kind and considerate.
Chomper is a character that all of us knew ever since the second sequel came out. I love the fact that he returned to stay forever in the TV series :)
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One thing to consider is if there are 7 main characters, when they add a guest character or two, the number of characters quickly becomes unmanageable and each of the characters gets very little personal screen time.
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One thing they could do, as I think I mentioned somewhere, is similar the Justice League cartoon, at least the first season or so that I saw. Some characters were not in certain episodes. So with this you can have say 7-9 members in the gang, but 5 to maybe 6 are the only ones in any particular episode, including guest characters.
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I just don't understand why they couldn't just leave well enough alone. I mean, what's wrong with the gang of five? NOTHING! :p
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I guess when they were working on the tv series someone suggested, why don't we add Chomper, he's a favorite, and someone else may have suggested, why don't we add another female character, there are to many males in the gang now, and even more if Chomper is added. Though I like Ruby I'd rather have had Ali added, she's another fan favorite. Though I still think if they did my idea each of the 4-6 characters in the gang for that particular episode would have more screen time and maybe could be fleshed out more.
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There is nothing wrong with the GOF and I guess with all my personal "lenience" for the character Ruby there is no way leading around to admit that she was probably created for "tactical" reasons. A new character to keep people interested in an old show. If you know the Simpson Episode "The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show" you will know what I'm talking about. However, unlike in that Simpson episode where they were mocking the habit of throwing a new character in to keep a show interesting at all costs Ruby is not so thoughtlessly cast in the ring in my opinion. She does fill some of the characteristics none of the other characters really stood for.
Nothing is wrong with the GOF and it would have been possible to create more sequels with the GOF. However, I don't think Ruby is dragging down the show so much as other "cast in" characters do. In several stories of the episodes she is a crucial element in a story that couldn't start if it wasn't for her (or Chomper).
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Having 7 characters only works because it's a TV ep and full of nothing but action. If it were actually a well thought out and planned sequel, it wouldn't be too good with any more than 5 characters and one or two guest characters. Look at LBT 13. There was enough screen time for the characters, but just barely and that's only because we only really see the yellow bellies when they're all together. If you notice, the individual yellow bellies get very little screen time. The yellow bellies are treated as one unit, showing that Universal has a really hard time even working 6 characters into the mix. How are they supposed to work in 7 characters plus guest characters? It's just gonna be a mess and a couple characters will get very little screen time.
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Keep em! I don't know about Chomper, but Ruby FOR THE WIN! :^.^:
/Lillefot
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^ I can't say anything about LBT 13 yet. I haven't seen it so far.
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Yes, There might be famine in the great beyond or a flood or something.Ruby's family has to move and chomper has to become a sharptooth.He must learn to fight and hunt so he can survive as a sharptooth. He won't stay a baby forever. He will have to fight another rex for terrority or for a mate. He will have to learn to fight three horns and long necks to eat and impress the girls. :lol