The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Clawandfang on March 28, 2008, 06:46:40 PM
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I'm busy editing various sections on Wikipedia concerning The Land Before Time, and when looking at Petrie's mother, I came a cross the phrase:
known as Mama Flyer by fans
I just wanted to double-check on this with you lot, as I have never heard the phrase.
Also: Discuss the character, Petrie's mother, here.
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I've read the term here and on sites. As I recall, I think the characters call her Petrie's mom. Unless Petrie is present then they may just call her your mom to Petrie. I don't think they've ever said what her name is. I think the credits call her Petrie's mom.
She seems as immune to speciesm as Ducky & Spike's parents are. Ducky & Spike's father is seldom seen but at the end of the first movie I think I recall both of them, including the father, nuzzling Spike so I assume he is immune to speciesm as Ducky & Spike's mom are. They don't show if she gradually lost it between the first and second movies like Littlefoot's grandparents likely did, or if she never had it.
I just include Littlefoot's grandparents since neither of them mentioned their personal feelings that it is wrong when his mother talked about it always being that way in the first movie. I'd guess if they were against it as they are in the later movies they'd have spoken up, and likely have raised their daughter to not be into that. Though I'm sure she have lost it quickly too.
The little I've seen of her in the debates & arguments she isn't shown as being swayed by Threehorn like Ducky & Spike's mother is, though I've not seen 11 yet so do not not know what they show her saying after Threehorn expresses his feelings concerning the Tinysauruses or even if she is present at all.
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take it easy man, just say petrie's mother,
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It's always been "Petrie's Mom" as long as I've known.
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Doesn't words "mama" and "mother" have the same meaning anyway? Than, what's the difference? :)
BTW, i'm always been thinking, that Petrie's mom is somehow older than other grown ups(Except maybe for mr. Threehorn... And Littlefoot's grandparents of course. :) ). Does anyone else have the same idea?
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Coyoye_A yes i think so too, but of Littlefoot's grandmother and grandfather very clever and wise, and Petrie's mother is not such wise and she have more free thinking in comparison with them. It is vusible in the seven part of "The land before time".
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She could be a bit older then some, or she may be just that way naturally.
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A friend on another website gave her a name just to make it easier. I believe he named her Rae.
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Rae? Where did he hear it? I think that Ducky's, Pertie's, Cera's, Littlefoot's parents in LBT haven't names.
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Well, it's really easier to call her "Rae" or some other name, than "Petrie's mom". But i think, many dinosaurs in LBT just don't care much about having a name.
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Once my poor hearing provided me with a name for Petrie's mother. When I watched LBT 9 for the first time I misheard the utterance "Till then..." from Littlefoot's grandfather at the land break as "Pterana...". The moment he uttered the words Petrie's mother was landing nearby. Though the mistake was discovered soon the name had stuck to some degree. It is as unoriginal as unoriginal a name can be (with Pterano as her cousin), but I still used the name in a story I wrote.
In general she is a character that could be explored.
She seems as immune to speciesm as Ducky & Spike's parents are. Ducky & Spike's father is seldom seen but at the end of the first movie I think I recall both of them, including the father, nuzzling Spike so I assume he is immune to speciesm as Ducky & Spike's mom are. They don't show if she gradually lost it between the first and second movies like Littlefoot's grandparents likely did, or if she never had it.
I basically agree and the impression is further strengthened by her way of acting in the TV episode Days of Rising Water. She never ever shows the remotest degree of suspicion about Chomper and accepts his help just as happily as she accepts anyone else's (and it certainly does her a lot of good). Her acting towards Guido is also very warm and welcoming, comparable perhaps to the way Ducky's parents act towards Spike.
On the other hand she seems to be easily influenced. We see her among the other squabbling grownups when grandpa calls for reason in LBT 3. We see her looking rather intimidated at the tale about the land of mists in LBT 4. And unless memory is cheating me as I have seen the movie only two times and a while ago too she was very ready to participate in Mr. Threehorn's witchhunt in LBT 11.
It would be interesting to know a bit more about her relationship with Pterano. She seems to be far from enthusiastic about him, but not ready to keep him away from her children either. I suppose she must have been in a more difficult situation about him than anyone else. I wonder if she had any private talk with Pterano throughout LBT 7 and what that would have sounded like.
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I thought Pterano was her brother since he's referred to as Petrie's uncle.
I remember that episode well. Petrie's 3 siblings (guess the rest were out having a coffee break during this episode) were always terrified when Chomper merely looked their way, except towards the end. Makes me wonder how Ducky and Spike's siblings would react.
As for her being swayed by Threehorn, it seems everyone is either bullied or swayed by him, luckily his plot device powers that the script writers give to him. The only ones that seem immune of the residents are Grandpa & Grandma Longneck, and Mr. Thicknose.
As for keeping him away from her kids, as I recall she wasn't to far away so likely could hear what he was saying. I'd guess she would not mind him telling her kids a story, but if he started to try to get them to do certain things she'd likely have come out if she could have heard what he was saying. Though I've not see the movie in a while so may not remember some details, and I'll watch in in about 7 weeks roughly. I think when he asked Petrie do to something I think he had to whisper, maybe, so she would not hear.
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I thought Pterano was her brother since he's referred to as Petrie's uncle.
That's true of course.
She refers to him as her brother too during the meeting shortly before the story about Pterano is revealed. The German translation turned that "brother" into "cousin" which is why I confused this.
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I wonder why they did that. I assume German has a word for brother.
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Of course it does. I have no clue either why such changes are made, but there are other such cases.
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I know this is slightly off-topic, but has anyone ever covered Petrie's father? He has never been mentioned or seen...
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I don't recall him being mentioned or hinted at.
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Does anyone have any guesses as to what happened to him?
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Maybe something happened to him before the eggs of Petrie or his siblings hatched.
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Once my poor hearing provided me with a name for Petrie's mother. When I watched LBT 9 for the first time I misheard the utterance "Till then..." from Littlefoot's grandfather at the land break as "Pterana...". The moment he uttered the words Petrie's mother was landing nearby. Though the mistake was discovered soon the name had stuck to some degree. It is as unoriginal as unoriginal a name can be (with Pterano as her cousin), but I still used the name in a story I wrote.
In general she is a character that could be explored.
She seems as immune to speciesm as Ducky & Spike's parents are. Ducky & Spike's father is seldom seen but at the end of the first movie I think I recall both of them, including the father, nuzzling Spike so I assume he is immune to speciesm as Ducky & Spike's mom are. They don't show if she gradually lost it between the first and second movies like Littlefoot's grandparents likely did, or if she never had it.
I basically agree and the impression is further strengthened by her way of acting in the TV episode Days of Rising Water. She never ever shows the remotest degree of suspicion about Chomper and accepts his help just as happily as she accepts anyone else's (and it certainly does her a lot of good). Her acting towards Guido is also very warm and welcoming, comparable perhaps to the way Ducky's parents act towards Spike.
On the other hand she seems to be easily influenced. We see her among the other squabbling grownups when grandpa calls for reason in LBT 3. We see her looking rather intimidated at the tale about the land of mists in LBT 4. And unless memory is cheating me as I have seen the movie only two times and a while ago too she was very ready to participate in Mr. Threehorn's witchhunt in LBT 11.
It would be interesting to know a bit more about her relationship with Pterano. She seems to be far from enthusiastic about him, but not ready to keep him away from her children either. I suppose she must have been in a more difficult situation about him than anyone else. I wonder if she had any private talk with Pterano throughout LBT 7 and what that would have sounded like.
Well I got say time will tell. Sooner or later we are bound to find out anyway about those two's pasts.
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It would have been interesting.
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On the other hand she seems to be easily influenced. We see her among the other squabbling grownups when grandpa calls for reason in LBT 3. We see her looking rather intimidated at the tale about the land of mists in LBT 4. And unless memory is cheating me as I have seen the movie only two times and a while ago too she was very ready to participate in Mr. Threehorn's witchhunt in LBT 11.
Well, that's where Petrie gets it from, then! (remember in 9 when he said he could think for himself and wasn't gonna follow the others, and then Cera called him and he followed?)
And yes, she did participate in the witch hunt, but then again, everyone initially (other then Grandma and Grandpa) did. And what does being intimidated by a true story have to do with being influenced? If I read something nasty in the paper, hell, I'm gonna be unnerved, horrified, and whatnot, so I don't see how this fits in with what you're saying...
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hi, what i would like to say about Petrie's Mother Petrie's Mother, voiced by Tress MacNeille and known as Mama Flyer by fans[1], is a character in the Land Before Time films and television series. She is a Pteranodon, which is one of many species referred to as "Flyers" by the characters. She has a big heart toward all the young ones and is protective of her children. She once offered comfort to Ducky's mother when the latter was abducted by Pterano and his minions. Although she believes her brother would never intentionally hurt anyone, she is quite severe on Pterano, and makes it clear that she does not trust him. She plays a major role in the Great Day Of The Flyers. She is a member of the Circle Of Elders.
If i am not wrong if wrong so kinda share your views...
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I really love her. She is kind and sweet and a beautiful blue color. She and Petrie have a great mom-son relationship!
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I also consider her rather underated. Most fans for some reason seem to like her (cough*idiot*cough) brother too much to even consider her, even though she's appeared way more.
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I like the character. Though she's not in as much in some movies as in others. And as for going along with the others the plot sort of requires it so the kids can save the day often. One way of writing fiction aimed at kids.
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she's as blue as Progressive
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I also consider her rather underated. Most fans for some reason seem to like her (cough*idiot*cough) brother too much to even consider her, even though she's appeared way more.
No, that's not the reason people don't like her as much. Just because they love Pterano doesn't mean they aren't considering her.
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I also consider her rather underated. Most fans for some reason seem to like her (cough*idiot*cough) brother too much to even consider her, even though she's appeared way more.
No, that's not the reason people don't like her as much. Just because they love Pterano doesn't mean they aren't considering her.
Eeeyup. And just because they like Pterano doesn't mean they're idiots. That's just prejudice.
:lol I just came up with something...If there's one thing I don't tolerate, it's prejudice. :lol
And it's true! I don't tolerate prejudice.
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^^ I'm sorry, but I have to finish this for you ;)
"If there's one thing I don't tolerate, it's prejudice!"
"Then why are you judging me?"
"Right, make that two things. Prejudice and stupid questions!"
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:lol :lol :lol Good one, LBTFan13! :lol
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We see her looking rather intimidated at the tale about the land of mists in LBT 4.
You talking about this flyer mother we see?
(http://i39.tinypic.com/x5y0xt.png)
Cause that's not her. She's not even drawn as a giant Petrie which is the case whenever they mess up her color.
And by they way, who's the threehorn next to Topps here?
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2a6nzsz.png)
I know the bigger one is Topps cause I heard his voice saying "changing" but is the other one one Dinah and Dana's parents and consequentially one of Cera's older siblings? :huh:
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On the other hand she seems to be easily influenced. We see her among the other squabbling grownups when grandpa calls for reason in LBT 3. We see her looking rather intimidated at the tale about the land of mists in LBT 4. And unless memory is cheating me as I have seen the movie only two times and a while ago too she was very ready to participate in Mr. Threehorn's witchhunt in LBT 11.
You're bashing her for being intimidated by a dark story?! For not being as perfect as Littlefoot's grandpa? For participating in a witchunt that almost everyone else, including HER OWN SON, participated in? :huh:
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Exactly what part of that comment did you consider "bashing" Petrie's mom? I read it, and nowhere in there did it sound like they were bashing his mother. They were just pointing out something that had occurred. Stating that she is "easily influenced" is not the same as bashing her. Do you realize that not every negative, not so pretty comment about a character is bashing?
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OK, it's just I think some of that stuff was perfectly natural for her.
We see her among the other squabbling grownups when grandpa calls for reason in LBT 3.
So what? Adults will argue! The fact that Grandpa wasn't annoys me, because I think it's wrong to portray him and Grandma as perfect while the rest are normal.
We see her looking rather intimidated at the tale about the land of mists in LBT 4.
So what? If I read a story about the weather changing somewhere, it would be natural to be intimidated. As for the grandparents not being, see above. (By the way, I'm not sure it is her---for reference check the pic I posted above.)
And unless memory is cheating me as I have seen the movie only two times and a while ago too she was very ready to participate in Mr. Threehorn's witchhunt in LBT 11.
She did, but did she have any idea what the creepy crawlies were? Her son did as well, even getting a singing part about it, I might point out. So did everyone else in the valley except Littlefoot, who knew the truth about the treesweets' disapearence, and...yeah, you guessed it, the freakin' perfect grandparents.
All I'm saying is she's normal and doesn't deserved to be portrayed in a negative light for being so.
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I'm surprised no one's made a fanfic about her past with Pterano or her husband.
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Does anyone have any guesses as to what happened to him?
Well, in a fanfic of mine, I made him turn out to be part of Pterano's herd. Petrie really takes the news hard when he finds out.
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I do like how calm and reasonable Mama Flyer usually is. She is kind when calming Petrie’s fears and tried to help him when he struggled during the Day of the Great Flyers. She must be a source of reason and stability in Petrie’s often chaotic life. I kind of surmise she came to accept Petrie’s friends because they bring out the best in him and she’s grateful for that. She seems to value the gang when they helped her and her family in those two TV episodes. She’s not immune to the usual hysteria that sweeps the valley but she seems to be among the grownups with a better head on her shoulders.
I think Mama Flyer’s relationship to Pterano is a mixed bag. She seems to have some genuine affection for him and probably prefers when he’s doing small kindnesses like entertaining children instead of plotting grand schemes that only get everyone involved in trouble. She has no illusions about what he did and seems to understand the difficult penance he must endure for his actions. I’m fascinated by their sibling relationship. I wish it got a bit more spotlight.
As for where her husband might be – I kind of headcanon that they have separated but still live in the valley and cooperate enough that the children could stay with him. This is partly an explanation for why the number of siblings Petrie has fluctuates. They’re staying with Dad! He’s more involved than most flyer fathers generally are tradition, which she appreciates.
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Petrie certainly refers to her as “Momma, look I am a flyer.” (LBT OR). But weither flyer is their last name is debatable. I actually like Momma, she is caring and even risked her life for Petrie’s Snuggling Stick.