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The Land Before Time => Land Before Time TV Series (2007) => Topic started by: Threehorn on July 14, 2008, 09:07:05 AM

Title: The Land Before Time - Magical Discoveries
Post by: Threehorn on July 14, 2008, 09:07:05 AM
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001B7CNZG (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001B7CNZG)

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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AVsdP0cjL._SS500_.jpg)

I gather one of them is going to be the Search for the Sky Colour Stones from the picture it self.
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Post by: landbeforetimelover on July 14, 2008, 09:37:24 AM
Yay!  I knew LBT wasn't dead.  But seriously, I cannot believe the dope at Universal Studios saw that cover and said that was acceptable. :x That's just god awful.  It'd be better if they just showed a screenshot from the movie itself instead of having something like that as a cover.  That cover makes me wonder why I even like LBT. :bang
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Post by: Mumbling on July 14, 2008, 09:47:12 AM
Is it that bad ?
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Post by: Kor on July 14, 2008, 10:33:42 AM
Thanks for the info on the upcoming dvd.  The cover does seem to reveal at least 1 of the 4 episodes on it.  I still wonder why they don't do a screenshot instead of paying an artist to do a picture.  One would think it would be faster and cheaper since I'd guess no one would have to be paid to do a screenshot.
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Post by: landbeforetimelover on July 14, 2008, 11:00:22 AM
Dang, I'd pay them NOT to do draw that cover! :rolleyes: I don't see how that cover is gonna help sell the movies.  Perhaps it's a ploy by the upper ranks of Universal to make LBT crash by making the movies unappealing.
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Post by: Sky on July 14, 2008, 11:18:08 AM
That's great news.
Though, the cover isn't that bad but not good either. There is something missing. Something when you look at shelves you then go like "Hey, what's this?". ;)

The covers should be more eyecatching.  =)
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Post by: Threehorn on July 14, 2008, 12:24:00 PM
I don't mind the image, look pretty cool to me.
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Post by: kjeldo on July 14, 2008, 03:32:30 PM
finally...
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Post by: Kor on July 14, 2008, 06:11:27 PM
That will make most of the episodes on dvd.  If it has 4 it'll bring the total on dvd up to 20 I think, out of 26.
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Post by: Threehorn on July 14, 2008, 08:43:28 PM
Well two of the episodes for the TV Series been speicals on two of the movies. LBT 12 had LBT tvseries DVD with it as Walmart speical then you have LBT 13 with a TV series with that.

So that would make one more TV Series DVD to go.
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Post by: Cancerian Tiger on July 14, 2008, 10:38:01 PM
Yeeaahh!  LBT ain't dead!  Take that, ya haters!

Okay, now to calm down :bang.  As I had stated in a previous post regarding the cover image issue, 'That would be thinking now, would'nt it?' in response to them using a screenshot.  I personally don't mind the images and tend to overlook any imperfections, and the whole "cover image" thing is no reason to dislike LBT :blink:.  If anyone else despises the image, perhaps we can have Universal hire Sky to do the images B).  That would be cool :yes  ;).  I'm definitely excited about this, and hopefully this will keep fans' spirits up in regards to the series continuing with further sequels :).
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Post by: action9000 on July 15, 2008, 01:34:48 AM
Heh, I actually don't mind the image at all, either!  It's friendly, inviting, a little bit mysterious...I actually find the cover quite good. :)

As for LBT being dead...Correct me if I'm wrong but all they're doing is releasing existing TV episodes to DVD.  Until we see some new *content*, I'd still say it's basically dead.

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I'm definitely excited about this, and hopefully this will keep fans' spirits up in regards to the series continuing with further sequels .
I just hope fans aren't too disappointed if we see no more developments from LBT.  I just have this strange feeling that it's done...

though that's getting a bit off-topic. :p
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Post by: landbeforetimelover on July 15, 2008, 01:48:11 AM
Why do movie and tv series die?  Because not enough people like them anymore.  It costs a lot of money to put these tv eps onto DVD and Universal wouldn't do that if they didn't expect to see a large profit from it.  If this DVD sells well, I'm sure they'll continue the movies and maybe even the tv series (though I sincerely hope not.  I'm not a big fan of the series).
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Post by: action9000 on July 15, 2008, 01:58:07 AM
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I'm not a big fan of the series
That makes two of us.  I don't find the TV series to be "Too much LBT".  I just find that the TV episodes are LBT without much content.  My major issue with the TV series are the length of the episodes and how little story/development there is in any one episode.  I found the movies plenty short enough, often bordering on too short for my tastes.  I also found that the TV series started taking LBT in a very new direction, even moreso than LBT 13 did.  

You know me, I'm a bit conservative when it comes to LBT.  :p  Don't change my LBT or I start getting overly critical! :D  :lol
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Post by: Malte279 on July 15, 2008, 03:41:03 AM
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You know me, I'm a bit conservative when it comes to LBT. :p Don't change my LBT or I start getting overly critical!
Same goes for me, but still I had no issues with any of the TV series episodes I have watched so far (I'm still saving a few) as strong as the issues I have had with some of the sequels.
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As for LBT being dead...Correct me if I'm wrong but all they're doing is releasing existing TV episodes to DVD. Until we see some new *content*, I'd still say it's basically dead.
I don't see the release of another DvD with episodes produced long ago (a release that was almost certainly planned long ago as well) as a sign for the continuation of LBT. We don't know anything certain. It may be possible that there is yet more to come, but unless we want to suffer from further disappointment we should not count on this to the degree where it would border some kind of denial.
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Post by: Threehorn on July 15, 2008, 08:31:13 AM
I believe they been coming up with so many ideas now that been used that they finding it hard to figure out a new LBT story line, so this could be a break phase for them to come up with fresh new things for the LBT movies and TV Series before they remake them again.

And add to that, they could be figuring out a plot line in their own time as well for the explaining of Ruby and Chomper introducing Red Claw into the picture as well why they felt to the Valley in the First place.

I will never say LBT is dead. that too harsh and too deep of a cutting word here. We can't let our spirits die because of what happened to the offices at the moment.

Keep your spirits up guys!
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Post by: stars on July 16, 2008, 08:14:56 PM
Is this the next Land Before Time Dvd? I wonder when it will come out? wow it looks cool and kind of cute. I like the look. The colors are nice.  :)
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Post by: Cancerian Tiger on July 16, 2008, 09:56:04 PM
Quote from: stars,Jul 16 2008 on  07:14 PM
Is this the next Land Before Time Dvd? I wonder when it will come out? wow it looks cool and kind of cute. I like the look. The colors are nice.  :)
It comes out on August 26th, Stars ;).  I checked the Wal-Mart website to verify this date B).  I admit, the image is quite cute, especially due to the fact they have Cera AND Ducky on it :^.^:.  My two favorite characters...they're adorable :^.^:  :)  :wub:.
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Post by: stars on July 16, 2008, 11:08:56 PM
Thanks a whole lot Cancerian Tiger that was helpful to me. :yes Thats great that there will be another dvd coming out this year i will have something to look forward to. :) also Cera and Ducky are cool.
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Post by: Petrie. on July 17, 2008, 05:57:46 AM
4 eps again...waste of dvd space. :rolleyes:  Milk milk milk!
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Post by: Kor on July 17, 2008, 12:03:12 PM
True, but you have to remember that is one way for them to make a profit, stretch out the series to as many dvd's as they can, instead of it being as few as possible.
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Post by: landbeforetimelover on July 17, 2008, 12:16:42 PM
I agree.  You could easily fit 10 episodes on one disk.  The quality reduction wouldn't even be noticeable. :p
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Post by: Threehorn on July 17, 2008, 12:39:29 PM
Well I have to agree on that since pokemon and some other cartoons have at least 7 to 8 episodes on each DVD and usually do box sents in volumes.
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Post by: Kor on July 17, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
I do wish they'd put a decent amount on each dvd instead of trying to stretch out the series onto as many dvd's as possible.
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Post by: Malte279 on July 17, 2008, 05:13:42 PM
^ Of course I agree with that, but basically the length of a TV episodes DvD is roughly the same as that of a sequel DvD.
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Post by: Petrie. on July 17, 2008, 08:27:17 PM
Quote from: Malte279,Jul 17 2008 on  04:13 PM
^ Of course I agree with that, but basically the length of a TV episodes DvD is roughly the same as that of a sequel DvD.
That's no excuse with dual-layer dvds.
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Post by: action9000 on July 17, 2008, 08:31:53 PM
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That's no excuse with dual-layer dvds.
dual-layer DVDs are more expensive and more easily damaged (scratches are more likely to cause read errors): two traits I can see making them rather unappealing.  I'm not sure on the compatibility of old DVD players (1st or 2nd gen) with dual-layer DVDs either.

Discs that are even easier to damage than normal DVDs...in the hands of kids...I'll pass. :p

Still though, 4 episodes per release should at least come at a cheaper price.  That's pretty harsh... <_<

(I'm still waiting for a release of the original LBT on blu-ray. :p)
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Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on July 20, 2008, 02:12:35 AM
True that, Tim. Still, at least something's going on at Universal, blu-ray or not.

And as for the cover, frankly, they could have put Grandpa and Threehorn doing the can-can and I'd be happy, just the DVD's existence proves that at least something LBT's going on over there.

Not that I'm going to buy it. I'm waiting for when the whole enchilada comes out in one box set.
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Post by: Kor on July 20, 2008, 03:03:43 AM
Quote from: LettuceBacon&Tomato,Jul 20 2008 on  01:12 AM
True that, Tim. Still, at least something's going on at Universal, blu-ray or not.

And as for the cover, frankly, they could have put Grandpa and Threehorn doing the can-can and I'd be happy, just the DVD's existence proves that at least something LBT's going on over there.

Not that I'm going to buy it. I'm waiting for when the whole enchilada comes out in one box set.
How about that with Petrie, Ducky, or Ruby shaking some maracas?
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Post by: landbeforetimelover on July 20, 2008, 03:06:02 AM
With animated videos, the movie file/files can be compressed A LOT more than a standard video and still look all right.  I was able to put LBT 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 on one disk WITH all of the menus and everything.  I'm sure Universal could fit a lot more onto one of the tv episode disks.

Think of it this way.  I can take a DVD rip of a LBT movie that's usually 700mb and I can increase it's size to 5gb or even higher.  The quality isn't more, but it takes up more space.  That's what they've done with the tv eps so they can excuse taking up an entire disk for 4 episodes.  I've played around and I was able to get 12 episodes on one disk without noticeable degradation even on my uncles 42" widescreen TV.  Even DVD quality disks shouldn't be more than 2,500kps and have a higher resolution than the standard....720x480 or 1280x720 or 1920x1080(HD DVD).  If they encoded DVDs right, they wouldn't take up any more than a gig or 2.  A standard DVD is 4.2gb, and a dual layer is 8 something (I'm not sure.  I don't use dual layer.).  More compression is possible and realistic with animated movies.
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Post by: Kor on July 20, 2008, 03:31:12 AM
If Paramount can get an entire season of their various star trek series on 7 disks including whatever extras they have, I'd guess universal could put LBT on less then 6 or 7 episodes if they really wanted to.
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Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on July 21, 2008, 01:12:25 AM
Welcome to Capitalism. Population:Getting richer.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on July 21, 2008, 09:49:55 AM
Quote from: LettuceBacon&Tomato,Jul 20 2008 on  10:12 PM
Welcome to Capitalism. Population:Getting richer.
And where the words "We care about what we do" have been forgotten.

Anyways, I can't wait for this to come out.  I'll put it up onto my computer the moment I get it.

On top of that, I'll make the vids for the songs that are in the 4 episodes.

Hmm... I wonder what the next one will be named. :)
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Post by: Kor on July 21, 2008, 12:19:03 PM
They are likely just milking things as far as they can.  That is often one of the side effects of the capitalist system.  It's not all benefits.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on July 21, 2008, 02:00:51 PM
Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Jul 20 2008 on  12:06 AM
With animated videos, the movie file/files can be compressed A LOT more than a standard video and still look all right.  I was able to put LBT 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 on one disk WITH all of the menus and everything.  I'm sure Universal could fit a lot more onto one of the tv episode disks.

Think of it this way.  I can take a DVD rip of a LBT movie that's usually 700mb and I can increase it's size to 5gb or even higher.  The quality isn't more, but it takes up more space.  That's what they've done with the tv eps so they can excuse taking up an entire disk for 4 episodes.  I've played around and I was able to get 12 episodes on one disk without noticeable degradation even on my uncles 42" widescreen TV.  Even DVD quality disks shouldn't be more than 2,500kps and have a higher resolution than the standard....720x480 or 1280x720 or 1920x1080(HD DVD).  If they encoded DVDs right, they wouldn't take up any more than a gig or 2.  A standard DVD is 4.2gb, and a dual layer is 8 something (I'm not sure.  I don't use dual layer.).  More compression is possible and realistic with animated movies.
As my own recent study of video compression has shown, it is no surprise that EVERY DVD has compressed video, sound, etc.  You see, when I did a DV recording of my VHS version of LBT 2 and put it in BEST quality with my VHS converter, I found the movie alone (From the WARNING notice up to when the credits ended.) to be over 16 GB. (Which I got rid of after I was done compressing it into a 550 .wmv file. (Note: Still learning how to compress properally here.  Give me a break.)) Yeah, that's pretty big, but think of it this way...

It is UNCOMPRESSED in all fields.  So it is no surprise it takes up so much space.  Copyright DVDs use .vob format, which is a nice start for compressing video, sound, etc.  Just about any DVD ripper out there can take the .vob format and compress it into a smaller file, or even uncompress it into a bigger file, some of which are incredibly simple in doing so. (Magic being one of several I've tried myself that I highly recommend for any beginner in this.) Of course, seeing how LBT 2 alone is over 16 GB when uncompressed from a VHS, it makes you wonder just how big the 2 hours or longer movies were back then. (My prediction says that the 3 hour and 6 minute long Titanic would be 40 GB+.  Now there's a big file for ya. :blink:)

For the sake of our computers, lets be glad it's all compressed.  I could definately see Universal fitting the whole TV Series onto 2 to 3 disks without wasting the quality of it.  Sadly, their head wants money more than anything right now, so we have to suffer with 3 times as many. -_-
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Post by: Cancerian Tiger on July 24, 2008, 11:41:38 PM
Here are the featured eps:

The Amazing Threehorn Girl
Return to Hanging Rock
Search for the Sky-color Stones
Days of Rising Waters

I look forward to this, especially to seeing Ducky's dark side for myself.  It will be interesting but at the same time teach folks that everyone has a dark side :yes.  Anyhoo, I can't wait to see these :D.
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Post by: kjeldo on July 25, 2008, 04:12:33 PM
yay! double sided ducky!
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Post by: Mumbling on August 07, 2008, 02:35:47 AM
I've seen this dvd on the shelves in france. Decided not to buy it.. Because it was French only :p I might get some dvd's from america or something, as I dont think the dutch will ever see the tv series...
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Post by: Kor on August 07, 2008, 06:58:54 AM
Some interesting episodes.  Ducky's dark side, Ruby's family appears, Ducky teaches someone something (I'll not say anymore to avoid spoilers)
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Post by: rosie on August 07, 2008, 04:21:12 PM
They could have done a better job thought.I looks like Cera is pirate hording shiny stones.
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Post by: Petrie. on August 17, 2008, 06:08:26 PM
poke: Welcome to the world of compressed video. :p

Dual layer DVD's cost nothing to make (from a selling point of view).  All the dvds of the films you know and love out there are dual-layer.  About the only things that are single layers are the ones you burn yourself.  I know Universal isn't Disney but they squeeze 20 episodes into 8 gigs with no serious quality loss.  I bet if someone could check these LBT dvd's I'd bet they find a video bitrate that doesn't even fill 4 gigs (single-layer dvd).  Waste of space.
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Post by: Cancerian Tiger on August 17, 2008, 08:38:38 PM
Quote from: LettuceBacon&Tomato,Jul 20 2008 on  01:12 AM
Grandpa and Threehorn doing the can-can
 :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol

I could just see(and would pay to) that!  Who's playing the banjo?
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Post by: landbeforetimelover on August 18, 2008, 01:46:05 AM
I agree with Petrie here 100%.  The videos are compressed to around 6gb.  They could be compressed 5 times more and there wouldn't be any noticeable quality reduction.  They're just a rip off.
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Post by: Kor on August 18, 2008, 08:03:00 AM
Yes, to bad their interested in making as much money as possible.  But at least they didn't do only 3 episodes on a disk, so I guess that is 1 positive thing.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on August 27, 2008, 12:25:02 PM
Okay, I've got it and am currently copying it onto my computer with Magic DVD Ripper.

Now, I'll just say this, if you thought the front cover was bad artwork, don't look at the back. -_-

I'll get the songs done soon.  Which means another 8 for my collection, some of which I know will be bad. :( (*thinking*Must remember, doing this for the fans. :))

Well, see ya later! :^.^:
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Post by: Kor on August 28, 2008, 12:49:50 AM
Thanks for your hard work.
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Post by: Cancerian Tiger on August 28, 2008, 10:56:24 PM
Quote from: pokeplayer984,Aug 27 2008 on  11:25 AM
Now, I'll just say this, if you thought the front cover was bad artwork, don't look at the back. -_-

 
I've noticed some imperfections myself but as always try to overlook them.  The only question I have is, who is this artist they hire?
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Post by: Kor on August 29, 2008, 09:42:28 AM
Maybe some little kid.  I bet little kids would work pretty cheap.