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Title: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: OwlsCantRead on February 14, 2020, 09:35:42 AM
So I was on Youtube today and chanced across one of those Land Before Time TV show clip videos from the official channel that capitalize on trends: in this case, Valentine's Day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pH7Yxu_ec0
(and no, I actually checked... yeah that title was kinda clickbait-y. :p)

Well, the video was uploaded just today, although the TV series aired 12-13 years ago and that got me thinking. Surely given the recent propensity to spread these clip videos (hahaha COPPA is that you? :p) there must be a population of kids who grew up exposed to the TV series (you can find the entire season on Youtube) as their fix? Are these kids who have been exposed to these videos probable future fans and next generation of LBT fans to-be? It's worth thinking about... :lol

Land Before Time is a niche franchise to some extent, moreso now than ever before. Went strong in the 90s and 2000s when the sequels were produced, but even in the early 2010s, fans could ride off the coattails of the TV series, albeit with the knowledge that the studios have closed. Times have since changed, however, and the valley is nt what it once was. Jurassic World has brought forth a resurgence of sorts, but it seems to be short-lived given the lack of merchandising or relevancy to the young'uns of today.

It's no secret that the series has underwent a decline of sorts. No sugarcoating or embellishing of it, it's a fact that when no official new content is being produced for a franchise, how relevant a fandom is in the public eye and the drive of general non-diehard fans will diminish over time. For instance, I was curious and looked up those videos on Youtube, and it's mostly recycled content from the same 26 episodes. Even to staunch fans, Journey of the Brave was the last huzzah for the franchise officially from Universal thus far. It is the last thing to officially sate our desire for more of these characters, and more adventures and songs.

What I'm curious to discuss today is how relevant you think the Land Before Time franchise as a whole in this new decade, and the apparent ramifications of time horizon and relevancy as the original batch of fans grow older. Now, I won't lie. I'm not the generation who grew up on Land Before Time. Not at all. There's no denying that the original Bluth film will live on, as a testament to its timelessness. But the sequels as a whole, something which has been mocked and vilified quite widely causing even people who'd never seen them to judge the films unfairly... what about them?

Without any new content (officially, that is) in the foreseeable future and a shrinking presence overall in the media, is the franchise on the cusp of a decline, or a renaissance? I state the latter because we might be in a new era of probable fans (sometimes I glimpse at the LBT wiki and see signs that young kids still like this franchise). But is that just an optimistic outlook from fans who, in a sense, just hopes for the best, akin to the Gang of Seven living a timeless existence without change and never growing up? Well, unlike the unaging gang, we are growing up and might outgrow these young dinosaurs (hopefully not :p). But if so, will there be an influx of younger fans joining us this decade? Or will it all fall apart as different generations drift away from this 1988 film and the franchise it spawned. :cry

So what do you think? Sorry if I rambled, but it'll be interesting to see if we can garner a consensus on our future and relevancy. :)
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Sneak on February 14, 2020, 02:02:52 PM
Oh my... XD (about video, it's name and picture :P)

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I simply dunno what would happen with franchise in nearest future.
But LBT franchise took its deserved place in history.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: StardustSoldier on February 14, 2020, 07:10:53 PM
As a kid growing up in the 1990s, I can remember Land Before Time being quite popular back then. Nowadays, however, the series no longer has the same "hip and happening" status. Which is unfortunate for LBT fans like us, but understandable all the same. There’s certain big franchises like Pokémon and Star Trek which remain widely popular and continue to receive new content, while others come and go with the times.

One thing that is encouraging is that the official LBT YouTube channel, which started up in 2017, now has a very high subscriber count of 225k, and still continues to pick up more subscribers. Even if the LBT fandom is a more niche thing nowadays, it shows that it certainly isn’t a forgotten franchise or anything. Even this upload (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsjJ1WWrV20) of the "Eggs" song has gotten an impressive amount of traffic.

Still, it would be nice if we could actually get some brand new content. For one thing, then the official LBT channel wouldn’t be stuck just doing compilations and re-runs of a single-season TV show. And of course, more content would be the best way to bring in some new fans. My gut feeling is that we will get something LBT related at some point down the line, but that it won’t be for another few or several years at least.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Anagnos on February 15, 2020, 06:16:36 AM
Indeed, that title for this video is 100% clickbait, but it would have been a grand twist had it been something else other than this… joke of a video. I don't know what I expected when I saw the thumbnail, but I should've known better than this to begin with. :p

I was born in late 1999 so I obviously didn’t see the initial growth of the Land Before Time franchise like so many others did. It was pretty early in my life did I discover this series and immediately fell in love with it. I practically begged my mother to rent the original movie from the local bookstore every time we happened to take a detour there. Over the years, my interest in the franchise only continued to grow, and I started to gather all of the available movies. Mind you, this was approximately around the time period when most of the sequels were already out, except for a select few, mainly Wisdom of Friends. I would love to disclose a small-scale ''secret'' that I still have these movies in my possession, and I likely will not ever part from them as they're a big part of my childhood and simply giving up on that important part of my early life is something I haven't even considered. Time will tell whether I will show them to my possible future offspring, but that's something I would like to keep in the dark for now. :smile

Despite the fact that the general interest in this universe seems to have rapidly died out over the years as people have grown older and are now focused on other matters entirely, there are still numerous amount of fans still interested in their childhood fantasies, and I guess I am one of those people. I recall to be the only one in my entire family who found this series to be a grand spectacle, which was always something that made me feel slightly down when my friends and cousins would trash talk the franchise that I loved from the bottom of my heart.

At this point, I think it’s very unlikely we’ll ever get new content, but I’d liked to remain optimistic that one day we might get something new. After all, when news of Journey of the Brave reached me, I was very ecstatic that something I cherished throughout these long years would finally make a comeback, and while I didn’t find the film to be one of the best or absorbing, I still like to think it was a rather worthy sequel after such a long break. That being said, I can’t be the only one who finds the amount of sequels a bit… uncanny. :p
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on February 18, 2020, 03:29:59 AM
Jeez, that video just redefined the term "clickbait".

Anyway...while I do agree that the lack of official content for LBT is quite concerning and could put a great dent into the future of the franchise, I think it will endure for a little while longer because of the fanbase. This franchise has been a cornerstone of the 80s, 90s, and early-to-mid-2000s. By this point, the oldest LBT fans are in their 30s to 40s, not all dead. As long as we keep our love and enthusiasm for the franchise alive and in droves, LBT's cultural impact can still be felt. It's so encouraging to see videos like the one @StardustSoldier linked reach hundreds of thousands of views. If we keep it up, Universal's bound to see how much people still love this little gem of a franchise and try continuing it again.

In fact, if we're creative, we could probably help LBT reach a new generation of audiences. Meme are all the rage nowadays, right? Maybe if we somehow make an LBT-centric meme, something akin to the surprised Pikachu face, we can get younger people interested enough to find the origins of said meme.

(https://img.memecdn.com/the-land-before-time_o_1086555.jpg)

Like this, for example. If we make the text applicable to anything and then spread it and make it popular enough, we could potentially see a resurgence.

I dunno, that's just me talking. For now, I think we should keep up what we've always been doing to unofficially continue the franchise: create fanfiction, fanart, etc.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 19, 2020, 10:37:37 PM
I suspect we will have either a) more of the same since LBTXI, or b) a revival, but that would require major interest from LBT creators.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: StardustSoldier on February 19, 2020, 11:13:09 PM
^My preference would definitely be for a revival/reboot at this point. While I would still welcome any new content at all, I sort of feel that they've taken it as far as they can with simply making more sequels. Although I do think a second season to the TV show would be interesting, even if it seems unlikely.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on February 20, 2020, 01:51:55 AM
^ There's definitely a lot of material they could cover in a second season.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 20, 2020, 04:36:30 PM
^My preference would definitely be for a revival/reboot at this point. While I would still welcome any new content at all, I sort of feel that they've taken it as far as they can with simply making more sequels. Although I do think a second season to the TV show would be interesting, even if it seems unlikely.

I find your thoughts on making more sequels intriguing. I see how there is little left to explore unless the Gang is allowed to age. The character development regresses after major leaps forward; an example is Petrie gains confidence during The Great Day of Flyers, but then reverts to his old timid nature (exception is Cesar Petrieus in LBTXIV, but that was not a test of his fears).
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: StardustSoldier on February 20, 2020, 08:14:29 PM
I'll admit I'm a bit apprehensive about a possible 15th film because I have a feeling they'd just style it after the most recent sequels, and I'm not the biggest fan of #11-14. I preferred the tone of the early-to-mid sequels.

Although you raise a very good point. And I would agree; more sequels would be interesting if they showed us a grown-up version of the Gang. :)

I also like your idea on the other thread:
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What I would prefer is Bluth or a successor makes a new set of sequels that are darker follow ups to the Original. This way fans have the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 20, 2020, 08:37:25 PM
I'll admit I'm a bit apprehensive about a possible 15th film because I have a feeling they'd just style it after the most recent sequels, and I'm not the biggest fan of #11-14. I preferred the tone of the early-to-mid sequels.

Although you raise a very good point. And I would agree; more sequels would be interesting if they showed us a grown-up version of the Gang. :)

I also like your idea on the other thread:
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What I would prefer is Bluth or a successor makes a new set of sequels that are darker follow ups to the Original. This way fans have the best of both worlds.

I too am rather disatisfied with the style and simplistic music from XI to XIV, we have lost the depth of “All Sorts” and the witty and silly of “We’ve Gotta Have Eggs.” I am hoping they can get some composer to restore the music to its original level, that being contigent on if they make more movies or a Season 2 of the series.

Thanks for the quote from my other post :), a Bluth Saga of Dark LBT films would satisfy fans of the Original, while I say the innocent song filled saga could live on in a series (season 2).   
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on February 21, 2020, 02:10:40 AM
^ That is such a great idea. Darker sequels with a stronger sense of continuity (with the addition of a season 2 as a kid-friendly alternative) would be the ideal way of bringing old and new fans into the community.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 21, 2020, 02:33:25 AM
^ That is such a great idea. Darker sequels with a stronger sense of continuity (with the addition of a season 2 as a kid-friendly alternative) would be the ideal way of bringing old and new fans into the community.

I always believe in a middle road when it comes to entertainment; allow fans to have options when it comes to more mature content while keeping the wholesome and more child friendly content. A company that did this well was EA and Tolkien, they gave casual fans Lego Lord of the Rings and Aragorn’s Quest which were E for Everyone and softened the darker elements like the Belrog of Morgoth, but they also made the Mature and gory Lord of the Rings The War in the North where fans could preform Aragorn level decapitations and limb removal.

This muti-theme, light and dark creations made it possible for fans of all ages and types to enjoy Middle Earth. My hope is TLBT could have a similiar fate with content for mature and younger fans. 
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: ImpracticalDino on February 21, 2020, 02:42:33 AM
Probably gonna come back and formulate a longer response to the topic of the thread in general.

Still, it would be nice if we could actually get some brand new content. For one thing, then the official LBT channel wouldn’t be stuck just doing compilations and re-runs of a single-season TV show. And of course, more content would be the best way to bring in some new fans. My gut feeling is that we will get something LBT related at some point down the line, but that it won’t be for another few or several years at least.

If there’s something that I never comprehend up to this day with these channels that upload clips, how are people willingly to come back to the channel and watch literally the same thing that was uploaded days ago, but just under a different title or thumbnail? For things like Gordon Ramsay I totally understand, but for LBT wouldn’t it get a bit boring? Most of the views from their recent vids come from their subscribers I would assume, with a small percentage coming from recommended vids. They have been milking the same content for awhile, and even with the implementation of COPPA, essentially reducing their ad revenue, it’s probably still worthwhile for them. I do have the same hopes as you do that something new gets created in the future.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on February 21, 2020, 06:27:50 AM
^ That is such a great idea. Darker sequels with a stronger sense of continuity (with the addition of a season 2 as a kid-friendly alternative) would be the ideal way of bringing old and new fans into the community.

I always believe in a middle road when it comes to entertainment; allow fans to have options when it comes to more mature content while keeping the wholesome and more child friendly content. A company that did this well was EA and Tolkien, they gave casual fans Lego Lord of the Rings and Aragorn’s Quest which were E for Everyone and softened the darker elements like the Belrog of Morgoth, but they also made the Mature and gory Lord of the Rings The War in the North where fans could preform Aragorn level decapitations and limb removal.

This muti-theme, light and dark creations made it possible for fans of all ages and types to enjoy Middle Earth. My hope is TLBT could have a similiar fate with content for mature and younger fans. 
I didn't even know Lego Lord of the Rings was a thing.

Anyway, I feel like this is something LBT should've quickly capitalized on back when it was still a thing in the 90s and 2000s. I remember comments (not sure if they were here) saying the LBT series looked like something that would've been a lot more popular in the 90s (which I'm inclined to agree with). Nowadays, I can't imagine them having enough support from the higher-ups at Universal to try and be this ambitious with the content.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 21, 2020, 01:22:46 PM
^The only way Universal would capitalize on diverse TLBT content is if they make Universal the one stop for all things dinosaur. They own the Jurassic Park/World franchise and have started turning their parks into Isla Nublar. To get the investors interested, the board would have to recieve this pitch: “let’s make all other dinosaur content extinct outside of our studios; making parents ans kids have to come to us to get their dinosaur fix.  Disney may have Star Wars, but we will have dinosaurs; they have Vader, we have Velociraptors.” In this the pitch would include content for youth which is TLBT and continuing the JP/JW franchise.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Anagnos on February 22, 2020, 04:51:08 AM
If a possible 15th sequel were to be made, the producers would have to be very careful as to what kind of a storyline they're going to introduce. The tone of the series definitely has switched to a more child friendly environment, and by switching it back to what the original was like, may not be generally accepted by some fans, namely younger generations. Although I would be very eager to see what they could create if they went with this plan, there's always room for further failure if the team is unprepared to bring the series into new light.

^ There's definitely a lot of material they could cover in a second season.

I'm rather skeptical of the potential for this plan. The television series wasn't exactly a big hit, and I found quite a few episodes that I truly enjoyed. Most of the episodes seemed to have no decent plot or execution, and occasionally the animation was just... bizarrely horrible. If a second season were to happen, I hope they'll take things slow instead of rushing into things senselessly. But speaking of potential ideas for a second season, what do you think they could cover? Care to give us a few examples?
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 22, 2020, 03:22:35 PM
The TV Series was quite a peg below the LBT sequels and it gave us the “Wisdom of Friends,” :o
I miss the balance LBTII had of whimsy and terror. Child friendly and yet edgy.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Anagnos on February 23, 2020, 03:27:15 AM
The TV Series was quite a peg below the LBT sequels and it gave us the “Wisdom of Friends,” :o
I miss the balance LBTII had of whimsy and terror. Child friendly and yet edgy.

There's a reason why the original film still holds up strong to this day. I like how the producers made it more dark compared to the sequels, but with a slight touch of gaiety towards the end. That's how a great movie should work and I'm rather disappointed they decided to ditch that sentiment altogether. I watched the movie numerous times in my youth, and even if I did not have the capacity to understand everything I saw, the film still managed to make me shed tears. And when If We Hold On Together was showcased in the credits, I couldn't help but feel slightly elevated when it became clear what a wonderful story it was.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 23, 2020, 03:01:02 PM
The TV Series was quite a peg below the LBT sequels and it gave us the “Wisdom of Friends,” :o
I miss the balance LBTII had of whimsy and terror. Child friendly and yet edgy.

There's a reason why the original film still holds up strong to this day. I like how the producers made it more dark compared to the sequels, but with a slight touch of gaiety towards the end. That's how a great movie should work and I'm rather disappointed they decided to ditch that sentiment altogether. I watched the movie numerous times in my youth, and even if I did not have the capacity to understand everything I saw, the film still managed to make me shed tears. And when If We Hold On Together was showcased in the credits, I couldn't help but feel slightly elevated when it became clear what a wonderful story it was.

I concur, the original LBT has the heart strings, and is it any doubt that because ot explored darker themes like Littlefoot’s Mother’s Death? I find myself weeping profusely when I hear “If We Hold On Together.” It has a special place in my heart and reflects my own life, particularly my own family. :sobs
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on March 03, 2020, 12:11:06 AM
^ There's definitely a lot of material they could cover in a second season.

I'm rather skeptical of the potential for this plan. The television series wasn't exactly a big hit, and I found quite a few episodes that I truly enjoyed. Most of the episodes seemed to have no decent plot or execution, and occasionally the animation was just... bizarrely horrible. If a second season were to happen, I hope they'll take things slow instead of rushing into things senselessly. But speaking of potential ideas for a second season, what do you think they could cover? Care to give us a few examples?
Even the greatest shows had rough starts during their first season, or perhaps even their first few. I'm sure if the series was renewed for a second season, the crew would have the time to get themselves settled into this new routine and therefore become confident enough to develop a number of compelling storylines.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff they can't be covered in an LBT movie, but can certainly be done in the course of an episode. Or maybe there's stuff that's so complex that it can't be fit into one LBT movie, but rather an entire season as an overarching plot.

Oh, and as for the kind of stuff they could possibly cover in a second season (I haven't seen the series in a while, so if this is already covered, I apologize):

-The gang learning how to speak Sharpteeth (I suggested this in another thread)
-Pterano returning to the Valley (he's been referenced so many times in the show that if it had been renewed for a second season, I'm SURE he'd have returned by then)
-Cera and Ducky interacting with other members of their own species outside of their families (we've seen Littlefoot interact with other Longnecks hundreds of times, while we've also seen what kind of interactions Petrie and Spike would have with their own kind)
-Littlefoot learning something about his mother he never knew before, probably a deep, dark secret
-A backstory on what happened to Cera's biological mother, Ducky's father, Petrie's father, and/or Spike's parents
-A follow-up to the episode "Escape from the Mysterious Beyond", which explores more of Thud's character in the wake of being saved by Chomper

There's lots of things a second season could explore.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Sneak on March 03, 2020, 01:40:57 AM
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-The gang learning how to speak Sharpteeth (I suggested this in another thread)
yes!

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Pterano returning to the Valley (he's been referenced so many times in the show that if it had been renewed for a second season, I'm SURE he'd have returned by then)

Even if considering my analysis about LBT continuing, I still think Ptrerano would not return, only if he doewsn't try to break his banishement rules. Well, gang still can met him in Mysterious Beyond though...

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-Cera and Ducky interacting with other members of their own species outside of their families (we've seen Littlefoot interact with other Longnecks hundreds of times, while we've also seen what kind of interactions Petrie and Spike would have with their own kind)
yes and yes!

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-Littlefoot learning something about his mother he never knew before, probably a deep, dark secret
Oo
doubtful.

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-A backstory on what happened to Cera's biological mother, Ducky's father, Petrie's father, and/or Spike's parents

I believe that would never happen..

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-A follow-up to the episode "Escape from the Mysterious Beyond", which explores more of Thud's character in the wake of being saved by Chomper
well, not only Thud chaarecter. The whole situation with Red Claw should be solved!
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on March 03, 2020, 05:35:34 AM
I think there's stuff that can be explored in a second season, if the crew was given the time and opportunity to try.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Anagnos on March 03, 2020, 09:57:59 AM
^ There's definitely a lot of material they could cover in a second season.

I'm rather skeptical of the potential for this plan. The television series wasn't exactly a big hit, and I found quite a few episodes that I truly enjoyed. Most of the episodes seemed to have no decent plot or execution, and occasionally the animation was just... bizarrely horrible. If a second season were to happen, I hope they'll take things slow instead of rushing into things senselessly. But speaking of potential ideas for a second season, what do you think they could cover? Care to give us a few examples?
Even the greatest shows had rough starts during their first season, or perhaps even their first few. I'm sure if the series was renewed for a second season, the crew would have the time to get themselves settled into this new routine and therefore become confident enough to develop a number of compelling storylines.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff they can't be covered in an LBT movie, but can certainly be done in the course of an episode. Or maybe there's stuff that's so complex that it can't be fit into one LBT movie, but rather an entire season as an overarching plot.

Oh, and as for the kind of stuff they could possibly cover in a second season (I haven't seen the series in a while, so if this is already covered, I apologize):

-The gang learning how to speak Sharpteeth (I suggested this in another thread)
-Pterano returning to the Valley (he's been referenced so many times in the show that if it had been renewed for a second season, I'm SURE he'd have returned by then)
-Cera and Ducky interacting with other members of their own species outside of their families (we've seen Littlefoot interact with other Longnecks hundreds of times, while we've also seen what kind of interactions Petrie and Spike would have with their own kind)
-Littlefoot learning something about his mother he never knew before, probably a deep, dark secret
-A backstory on what happened to Cera's biological mother, Ducky's father, Petrie's father, and/or Spike's parents
-A follow-up to the episode "Escape from the Mysterious Beyond", which explores more of Thud's character in the wake of being saved by Chomper

There's lots of things a second season could explore.

Those are pretty decent ideas, but the possible execution is what worries me. It is quite easy to mess up even a perfect plan.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 03, 2020, 12:31:05 PM
What about live action remaka?
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Sneak on March 03, 2020, 12:47:33 PM
What about live action remaka?
NO, SUBGOD!

No, Subgod, please, no! No! No! NO!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 03, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
What about live action remaka?
NO, SUBGOD!

No, Subgod, please, no! No! No! NO!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

But Disney makes such ‘great’ live remakes. :p
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: ImpracticalDino on March 03, 2020, 01:02:57 PM
What about live action remaka?
NO, SUBGOD!

No, Subgod, please, no! No! No! NO!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

But Disney makes such ‘great’ live remakes. :p

Lol, everyone hated Lion King remake. So yeah, Disney making live action version of LBT would be a disaster. (Maybe not financially, becuz of cash grab and nostalgia).
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Sneak on March 03, 2020, 01:09:53 PM
I didn't watch Lion King or any other Disney's remakes in last years.
It's my reaction to ANY remakes of PERFECT classic.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 03, 2020, 02:09:18 PM
I didn't watch Lion King or any other Disney's remakes in last years.
It's my reaction to ANY remakes of PERFECT classic.

The only Disney live remake I intend to see is “Mulan.” I want to see a more realistic take on historic Chinese Joan of Arc. The rest are as you so eloquently pit it, are cash grabs. 
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on March 03, 2020, 08:01:59 PM
^ There's definitely a lot of material they could cover in a second season.

I'm rather skeptical of the potential for this plan. The television series wasn't exactly a big hit, and I found quite a few episodes that I truly enjoyed. Most of the episodes seemed to have no decent plot or execution, and occasionally the animation was just... bizarrely horrible. If a second season were to happen, I hope they'll take things slow instead of rushing into things senselessly. But speaking of potential ideas for a second season, what do you think they could cover? Care to give us a few examples?
Even the greatest shows had rough starts during their first season, or perhaps even their first few. I'm sure if the series was renewed for a second season, the crew would have the time to get themselves settled into this new routine and therefore become confident enough to develop a number of compelling storylines.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff they can't be covered in an LBT movie, but can certainly be done in the course of an episode. Or maybe there's stuff that's so complex that it can't be fit into one LBT movie, but rather an entire season as an overarching plot.

Oh, and as for the kind of stuff they could possibly cover in a second season (I haven't seen the series in a while, so if this is already covered, I apologize):

-The gang learning how to speak Sharpteeth (I suggested this in another thread)
-Pterano returning to the Valley (he's been referenced so many times in the show that if it had been renewed for a second season, I'm SURE he'd have returned by then)
-Cera and Ducky interacting with other members of their own species outside of their families (we've seen Littlefoot interact with other Longnecks hundreds of times, while we've also seen what kind of interactions Petrie and Spike would have with their own kind)
-Littlefoot learning something about his mother he never knew before, probably a deep, dark secret
-A backstory on what happened to Cera's biological mother, Ducky's father, Petrie's father, and/or Spike's parents
-A follow-up to the episode "Escape from the Mysterious Beyond", which explores more of Thud's character in the wake of being saved by Chomper

There's lots of things a second season could explore.

Those are pretty decent ideas, but the possible execution is what worries me. It is quite easy to mess up even a perfect plan.
But like I said, though, if they were given more time to work on the show, I think the crew would become more comfortable with what they're doing and nail the executions better. First seasons always have it a bit rough no matter how good the show is overall.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 10, 2020, 03:03:08 AM
I think the likelihood of a Season 2 for TLBT Series is remote. For one despite the Jurassic World sequels, there doesn’t seem to be dinomania which would be a factor in Universal renewing for a new seaaon. I think we are more likely to get LBT XV.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: ImpracticalDino on March 12, 2020, 10:27:46 PM
The official Land Before Time channel is still going with uploading compilation clips from the LBT TV series, even making one for International Women's Day (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRaEucHWhBg). They've also been making countless "scary compilations" with your favorite cast of Sharpteeth: Red Claw, Screech, and Thud.

Something a bit unprecedented happened a day ago however. It's another scary compilation...with a slight catch. Instead of TV clips, they derived the scenes from two movies in order: LBT 13 and LBT 3. With my curiosity peaked, I clicked on the video and...let the cringe ensue. :sducky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSTuY-u-CmU
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Sneak on March 13, 2020, 05:56:57 AM
oh my, what thew subhelll...  :facepalm
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: RainbowFaceProtege on April 07, 2020, 01:40:14 PM
Probably gonna come back and formulate a longer response to the topic of the thread in general.

Still, it would be nice if we could actually get some brand new content. For one thing, then the official LBT channel wouldn’t be stuck just doing compilations and re-runs of a single-season TV show. And of course, more content would be the best way to bring in some new fans. My gut feeling is that we will get something LBT related at some point down the line, but that it won’t be for another few or several years at least.

If there’s something that I never comprehend up to this day with these channels that upload clips, how are people willingly to come back to the channel and watch literally the same thing that was uploaded days ago, but just under a different title or thumbnail? For things like Gordon Ramsay I totally understand, but for LBT wouldn’t it get a bit boring? Most of the views from their recent vids come from their subscribers I would assume, with a small percentage coming from recommended vids. They have been milking the same content for awhile, and even with the implementation of COPPA, essentially reducing their ad revenue, it’s probably still worthwhile for them. I do have the same hopes as you do that something new gets created in the future.
To be honest...this LBT channel kind of drives me nuts.  :facepalm First of all, it is not an official Land Before Time channel. If it was, why would it have only joined YouTube in 2017? If Universal wanted to put LBT on YouTube, they would've done it in 2015 or 2016 to promote JoTB before its release. So what we have here is some random guy who's not affiliated with Universal yet is capitalizing on their content. Cue Angry Dino #1: :anger

Second, I cannot do a search for any Land Before Time movie scene on the internet now without being flooded by a bunch of LBT TV show YouTube clips from this channel. Seems it's managed to exploit tags to the point where you can't so much as type the words "Land Before Time" in a search without its videos coming up--so unless you can circumvent this by searching for the scene you want without using that phrase (good luck), all this irrelevant content is going to make it impossible to get to what you wanted. Hello, Angry Dino #2: :anger

Third, to agree with ImpracticalDino, I do not, in any way, shape, or form, understand compilations! I don't want to watch some bunch of incoherent clips mashed together, no matter whether there's some supposed theme very loosely holding them together (LBT International Women's Day...sure, sure). Unfortunately, however, compilations are great clickbait, so plenty of channels these days start churning them out like mad in lieu of any original content. There's probably parents out there who turn on these hour-long LBT compilations when they need their kids to behave for a while, not knowing or caring whether it's a bunch of recycled video or not. Sorry kids, guess you're not going to grow up knowing what a coherent story looks like! :anger :anger :anger
Phew...sorry for that rant. I needed to get that off my chest. :areyouserious
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: StardustSoldier on April 21, 2020, 01:50:27 AM
What about live action remaka?
NO, SUBGOD!

No, Subgod, please, no! No! No! NO!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

But Disney makes such ‘great’ live remakes. :p

Lol, everyone hated Lion King remake. So yeah, Disney making live action version of LBT would be a disaster. (Maybe not financially, becuz of cash grab and nostalgia).

A live-action LBT remake wouldn't be my first choice either. If they ever do a remake, I'd want them to keep it animated. But even if it were live-action, I'd probably still go see it anyway just because I want the franchise to continue on somehow.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Anagnos on April 21, 2020, 10:37:01 AM
^The big question is that were they to make a live-action movie of the original, would the letdown be as big as it was with the Lion King? Though, I'd probably go see it as well just for curiosity's sake despite any first impressions.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on April 21, 2020, 12:36:54 PM
I would prefer more sequels over a live-action reboot at this point. At please by the Bright Cir le don’t do an animated reboot!  :facepalm
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Goldenwind on April 21, 2020, 01:43:14 PM
If they were to ever try to reboot at all, I would prefer them to do it in a style of like a series of small movies like The Dark Crystal Age of Resistance. Though I'd be hesitant with a reboot at all because I feel like it would probably throw out all what the franchise has developed out the window (Characters and world development).
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on April 21, 2020, 09:52:27 PM
If they were to ever try to reboot at all, I would prefer them to do it in a style of like a series of small movies like The Dark Crystal Age of Resistance. Though I'd be hesitant with a reboot at all because I feel like it would probably throw out all what the franchise has developed out the window (Characters and world development).

I feel the same, a reboot I fear will purge all the character development that has transpired ober 14 films.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: RainbowFaceProtege on April 22, 2020, 08:55:20 PM
If they were to ever try to reboot at all, I would prefer them to do it in a style of like a series of small movies like The Dark Crystal Age of Resistance. Though I'd be hesitant with a reboot at all because I feel like it would probably throw out all what the franchise has developed out the window (Characters and world development).

I feel the same, a reboot I fear will purge all the character development that has transpired ober 14 films.

This perfectly sums up why I despise reboots. The Monster High DTV films come to mind. I'm not sure how many other people here would know anything about those, but the bottom line is that character traits which had come about only as a result of growth and development in the original series became taken for granted in the rebooted set of characters, even though their pre-reboot history had been erased. Worse, some characters basically swapped personalities!
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on May 23, 2020, 12:47:25 AM
If they were to ever try to reboot at all, I would prefer them to do it in a style of like a series of small movies like The Dark Crystal Age of Resistance. Though I'd be hesitant with a reboot at all because I feel like it would probably throw out all what the franchise has developed out the window (Characters and world development).

I feel the same, a reboot I fear will purge all the character development that has transpired ober 14 films.
Seconded.

The sequels may not be popular with some, but they've been quite helpful in expanding our understanding of the LBT universe. Without the things we know today, I don't think our childhoods would've been the same. It'd be a shame if a reboot threw all of that in the trash can without as much as a tidbit of respectable acknowledgment.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 23, 2020, 08:25:14 PM
I prefer revival (using all films and series as canon) than reboot. We don’t need another reboot, we need the story to continue.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: LBTlover247 on June 09, 2020, 08:32:35 AM
I'd like to have a second season of the tv series. But have it at a higher quality i.e. better/consistant animation, better songs with melodies unique to each episode, solid storylines maybe with an overarching plot, well written characters that could return for another episode. TV content aimed at younger viewers can be enjoyable when its done right (ex: The Lion Guard). Also have it air on multiple platforms to help reach viewers (I think that was a major reason for its downfall as I know I struggled trying to find it when it was airing). 

Of course, there won't be any new content if there isn't enough interest for more, new sequel or tv series. Ratings is also a thing to consider as well as creators won't make more of something unless there is money too be made.

As of now, I think the only way we would get any new content is if we generate the interest for it ourselves and somehow let the studios know 'Hey we want more LBT'. However, doing it this way still doesn't guarantee anything happening.   
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: RainbowFaceProtege on June 09, 2020, 04:06:33 PM
I'd like to have a second season of the tv series. But have it at a higher quality i.e. better/consistant animation, better songs with melodies unique to each episode, solid storylines maybe with an overarching plot, well written characters that could return for another episode. TV content aimed at younger viewers can be enjoyable when its done right (ex: The Lion Guard). Also have it air on multiple platforms to help reach viewers (I think that was a major reason for its downfall as I know I struggled trying to find it when it was airing). 
Agree 100% with this! :Mo There are plenty of great "children's" TV shows out there that are enjoyed by viewers of all ages, so there's no reason they couldn't have made LBT one of them.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: sordessie on June 16, 2020, 03:29:49 PM
Wild enough even though the tv series is pretty old by now I could swear I remember it being advertised as new as little as five years ago possibly, my memory is super foggy so I'm probably misremembering time, the ads I saw, or both. I know the show initially ran on Cartoon Network in the US but I think whoever owns Noggin got ahold of the rights and they were advertising it as a new show (which is fair, its new the their network).

I'll admit I'm hit or miss on reboots. It depends how they go about it. A reboot on the entire series of the films I wouldn't really like the idea of. There's no reason for it and there's too much good there. A revival, get a cast of people who really enjoy the premise together we'd get some more good movies! I wouldn't be altogether opposed to either a reboot or reimagining of the show, however. It's hard to really change too much since it's just. Dinosaurs in the Great Valley. But take like. Scooby Doo. Where we've got all the movies that kind of exist in their own frame, and then different series. If they wanted that I wouldn't altogether be opposed. Though the only reason I could see for needing to do that in place of a revival is if they wanted to start from scratch with meeting new characters or ditch the redclaw thing for whatever reason. I think the shows fine as is personally (the songs can just. Stop though I'm not a big fan of the reuse of movie music with the words that don't fit the same).
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on July 04, 2020, 05:41:37 AM
At this point, the only feasible way LBT can make a comeback is if Disney takes the helm. Or better yet, a co-production between Disney and Universal. Because at this point, I can't think of any ongoing non-Disney/Pixar properties that are just as big.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: StardustSoldier on August 10, 2020, 11:58:38 PM
^I would actually welcome that if Disney took a stab at it.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on August 15, 2020, 02:17:35 AM
^I would actually welcome that if Disney took a stab at it.
As long as they know what they're doing and hire people who are devoted fans of the franchise, then it should all be good.

In a perfect world, they'd bring Don Bluth in as a consultant, but I doubt it would happen in today's world.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: OwlsCantRead on October 23, 2020, 12:04:32 AM
Mini-update since this thread began. Still feel like the lack of commenting on all the Land Before Time Universal video due to new regulations hurts the chances of interaction.

But it was brought to my attention that there is another relatively unknown sub-community of Land Before Time fans on Amino (https://aminoapps.com/c/land-before-time/info/), which is best described as a kid-friendly Tumblr/Reddit fandom space. While it is nice to see that some young fans still are drawn to the series, that and the sudden boom and renaissance after the viral May Youtube video on the sequels gives me some semblance of a future fan resurgence.
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: Dr. Rex on October 23, 2020, 05:38:43 PM
Mini-update since this thread began. Still feel like the lack of commenting on all the Land Before Time Universal video due to new regulations hurts the chances of interaction.

But it was brought to my attention that there is another relatively unknown sub-community of Land Before Time fans on Amino (https://aminoapps.com/c/land-before-time/info/), which is best described as a kid-friendly Tumblr/Reddit fandom space. While it is nice to see that some young fans still are drawn to the series, that and the sudden boom and renaissance after the viral May Youtube video on the sequels gives me some semblance of a future fan resurgence.
"An overly hated movie/TV series that can gain appreciation right here"

wut XD

Outside of that, it's so good to see young people are still gravitating towards the franchise! :D
Title: Re: LBT in the new 2020s decade
Post by: chomper94 on July 01, 2021, 02:58:02 PM
The official Land Before Time channel is still going with uploading compilation clips from the LBT TV series, even making one for International Women's Day (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRaEucHWhBg). They've also been making countless "scary compilations" with your favorite cast of Sharpteeth: Red Claw, Screech, and Thud.

Something a bit unprecedented happened a day ago however. It's another scary compilation...with a slight catch. Instead of TV clips, they derived the scenes from two movies in order: LBT 13 and LBT 3. With my curiosity peaked, I clicked on the video and...let the cringe ensue. :sducky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSTuY-u-CmU

I’m pretty sure the official Land Before Time channel isn’t the only channel that does this.  Another Universal themed YouTube channel does the same thing.  Just compare the LBT channel with the channel link down below:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCB2aeGGPNj7l5Z71bYNqX-Q