The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => Land Before Time TV Series (2007) => Episode Discussion => Topic started by: Unknown Person on June 22, 2007, 05:33:02 PM
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Airdate (Canada): June 22nd, 2007
Description: When the gang sees the sky colors in the sky disappear (a rainbow), the gang splits up to find sky color stones.
Songs: Find Those Stones (melody shared with Talking Big), and Hide My Stones (melody shared with I Feel Mad)
It just aired earlier today and it shows Ducky's "darker" and more greedy side.
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Greedy? What, does she steal stones from the others?
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it shows Ducky's "darker" and more greedy side.
Ducky has a greedy side?
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it shows Ducky's "darker" and more greedy side.
Ducky has a greedy side?
Yeah, I was pretty surprised at that, since they have never depicted Ducky in such a way.
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Greedy? What, does she steal stones from the others?
She doesn't steal the stones from the others, but prevents the others from finding the stones (they were searching the cave for the stones). You really have to watch it.
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I love to see it when I get a chance and wonder if Action9000 managed to get those two episodes that now spoken about.
As for Ducky I blieve one statment was on LBT 7 everyone has a dark and light side from the song in the cave. So'd you saw one from Littlefoot when it came to Ali with Rhett you never see Littlefoot get that mad over something before and for the first time he teams up with Cera on a idea.
It a twist that happens to anyone I guess. they show a side you never exspect them to have.
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i saw the episode too. She does something a bit worse then keeping the stones from the others, but im not gonna say cause it might spoil it. Unknown Person you probablt know what im talking about.
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Hello all! I have some good and some bad news. The bad news is that Action9000 didn't have this episode. The good news is I found it on Demonoid and am downloading it as I type this! I'm pretty sure I have the just of the new program Action showed me so I can adjust the quality. The ETA right now is 7 hours so I might be able to get it on my site by the end of the day! I haven't found the other one yet though. Just check my site for periodic updates. :)
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Okay people. I've got it on my site now!
www.landbeforetime.co.nr (http://www.landbeforetime.co.nr)
I haven't seen it yet though. I"ll post my opinion of it when I watch it!
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Ducky seemed rather out-of-character here...
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well I just saw it.
Ducky seemed rather out-of-character here...
I totally agree. Petrie would have been a better character than ducky to play this part. Also, since when does the gang just split up like that? That was out of the norm. If Cera almost got stuck, wouldn't she be smart enought to tell spike that he wasn't going to fit? That didn't make much sense to me. It always seems that spike gets stuck in both the tv series and the sequals. I don't know why this always happens. Kind of lame.
Ducky was acting like a self-centered brat. Next ep, they should definently restore her character to it's origional paramaters. It was sort of hard to believe. It was nice to have a new ep though nevertheless. I will keep looking on demonoid for more tv eps and I'll update my site once I get them. I hope the new ep will be on there soon. I really want to see it!
My overall opinion of this ep:
It was pretty good except for ducky's character. The gang splitting up may have been abnormal, but certainly not as far fetched as ducky acting like that. All they needed to do was switch her character with petire and it would have been a much better episode.
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Well, I'm downloading it now and I'll take a look at it when I can.
Oh, and to comment on your website, LBTlover, love the classic music you have playing on it. ^_^
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Can someone one please PM me the link so when I get back to the UK I can get these episodes. Please... Personal Messenage me please someone with that link. I like to know so when I am back in the UK I can get these episodes. I managed to get 20 episodes over all and these ones are coming to the last 6 I need and the link will be one step closer to getting them :)
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You know, the only place I would've predicted seeing a Dark Side to our wonderful little Ducky, was in fanfictions where she is surprisingly the villian. (How THAT would even work, I don't even want to know.)
It was a shocker to see the kindhearted Ducky like this. Then again, those crystals within the stones would have some value in today's world. Finding them is the only hard part, so I'm also shocked that Ducky managed to find so many. Ducky's Dark Side was so out of charcter, that I kinda fear what that side of her is capable of. I'm afraid to admit that I might have nightmares for a few nights. :o
I also can't believe she left behind poor Spike, the "little brother" that she loves so much. Bad Ducky! Bad!
Now, one interesting thing within the graphics I'll point out is that the charcters seemed out of place with the background at a few points. It seems that the animators tried 3D effects on the charcters in this one at a few points. The step from 2D to 3D is pretty big, and it seems the animators might be planning to do that someday.
The songs were okay, but could they come up with original melodies for once? I'm still waiting for that.
Well, I've got to go now.
And expect those lyrics by Tuesday, Action.
See ya later! :^.^:
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geode isn't really the most expensive, they are by rivers a lot... just unbroken
I'd imagine on the high side you could get $20 since they are about a foot tall... if they could somehow stand...
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Hey Threehorn, I know that the ep's I have posted in the past have been pretty bad quality, but I compressed it in a way to maintain filesize and still have okay graphics. If I had the option to download the 270mb torrent of my 40mb compressed version, I would choose the compressed version because the quality in the torrent isn't much better. Not to mention that it took me 8 hours to download the thing! And I get 12mbps!
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thanks for the heads up and I got it :) and also I see now why Ducky gave that dark side of her, it was just what Ruby and Cera was doing to compeite with each other and that made Ducky also do it.
That something that almost happens to any kid if two others with him/her try to out do each other, secertly that other would try to out do them both and keep the prize to themsleves. I know it out of place of Ducky but when you think of it this almost happens all the time with many kids.
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I wonder how it was the Littlefoot and Cera were the only ones who knew about the sky colored stones? Something tells me there's a story behind that that we don't know. :P:
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I wonder how it was the Littlefoot and Cera were the only ones who knew about the sky colored stones? Something tells me there's a story behind that that we don't know. :P:
Oh, dear. It looks like it's up to Malte279 and me to debunk another Cera + Littlefoot myth. :P:
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Oh, dear. It looks like it's up to Malte279 and me to debunk another Cera + Littlefoot myth.
Oh god, I didn't mean that! :lol I just meant that they were alone when they found them the first time for some reason like the others were sick or something.
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Oh, dear. It looks like it's up to Malte279 and me to debunk another Cera + Littlefoot myth.
Oh god, I didn't mean that! :lol I just meant that they were alone when they found them the first time for some reason like the others were sick or something.
Hehehe, I was joking, too. :lol Actually, though, it doesn't appear that they found them together, as they reported seeing them in two different locations, so it's not as bad as you think. :lol
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The Probability of both of them finding them independently is not too great compared to the probability of the finding them together. I think they found them together, but one of them is mistaken about their location. If you look at the way they look at each other, it seems like they had a memorable independent adventure that was separate from the rest of the gang. Just some fun speculation, but that's what I like to believe. :D
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It makes sense that Littlefoot and Cera may have times when they play without the others. For a while they were both only children, at least till Cera had the little sister, what's her name.
Ducky and Petrie have siblings, and as good of friends as the gang is, I would imagine Ducky and Petrie would spend some time playing with their own siblings too. Though in the things I've seen I think I've only seen Ducky playing with hers a bit.
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I still think that there's an equal chance that they each were alone when they found them at those different locations. They could have been anole for any reason, but it's still possible.
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There could be times when each is alone for this or that reason. After all wasn't there a scene in movie or tv episode where Littlefoot is the only one left not busy, and he talks or sings about being bored while his other friends are to busy to play with him. There could be other times also with Littlefoot and Cera were alone.
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Episode's just finishing as I type this.
Did anyone else, upon seeing Ducky fall over the edge of the cliff, immediately think "MY PRECIOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUSSS!!!!!!" ?
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It did seem related to that scene. Could be a funny caption for that scene.
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Personally, I liked that Ducky was the one shown as being obsessed with the stones and a little greedy. It's important to let kids know that no one is perfect all the time and sometimes we can lose ourselves. Ducky is more or less the most innocent and friendly of the gang, so it's very effective to have her shown as being fallible. That way, kids don't feel so bad if they get a little crazy once in a while.
That's my take on it, anyhow.
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But they found them at different places. They probably found the rocks at different times.
Intresting how the gang split up males one way and females the other way. Except Spike of course, lucky dog :wow
I felt a bit sorry for Spike, I mean, it's his first night out with just the ladies and he gets himself stuck in a hole in the wall, upon which the girls ditch him. Bummer.
Intresting how Chomper doesn't seem to be affected by the bees. That is an awesome attribute, and the writers should use that as a plot device someday.
Other people didn't seem to like Ducky's 'dark side,' but I thought it was awesome that Ducky for once looked out for #1 and decided to start hoarding them all to herself. When the episode revealed that she had found like 7 already I was like, "Damn, she's good!" And then she makes the stupidest mistake in the book, trying to hide one behind her back while inching past them, good luck doing that with a stone that's wider than you are.
I also loved it when Ducky forced them to admit that she was the best rockfinder, and Cera was like, "Oh its no big deal." NO BIG DEAL?!? You've only spent the whole friggin epiode talking about how great you are at finding these things, and then when somebody else royally trumps you, you act like it wasn't that important. Hypocritical sore loser, admit that Ducky beat you for once.
Ducky deserves to be more than just a goody-goody every single time, she should appeal to her darker emotions like greed once in a while, that's what made this such a great episode. If they'd flipped her with Petrie, then not only would that make yet another Petire-centric episode (and there's already enough of those as it is) but it wouldn't be that special since Petrie acts like a three-year old all the time.
Just my two cents. Take it as you will.
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overall I did like it. One of the things I didn't was I don't think Ducky would just abandon Spike like she did and the greed she showed were things I've never seen her do before or a personality traits I've not seen before, unless they have shown it and I forgot.
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I absolutely love how Ducky's dark half comes out, FINALLY. However, I am quite surprised at some of the negativity towards it :o. I mean, c'mon now. Y'all have dark sides. It's part of our nature. Speaking of oddities in characters, Cera's reaction to Ducky being the best stonefinder was great. This not only shedded light on Cera's not-so-arrogant personality, but also her ability to practice good sportsmanship :P:. Again, I found Ducky's dark half to be an eye-opener to the fact that she is not perfect, nor is anybody else. Great ep, BTW.
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I would not mind it if there were some hint of it before. I dislike when things spring out from nowhere that were never around before. Having some flaws in a fictional character's personality, can be interesting if done right, but just having appear when it was not there before, is bad writing in my opinion. I did like the episode, except for that, and Ducky abandoning Spike.
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There's a term coined by Hank Azeria for this, Ducky was carrying the Idiot Ball (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IdiotBall) for an episode... I guess -shrug-
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It shock me to. Ducky literally had a greedy side of herself. I always knew her to be sweet old Ducky, but after what I've watched all that has changed.
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My feelings about her have not changed. There's no such thing as a perfect person, and we've seen flaws in the others. To me, she's still a total sweetheart who just lets her competitive side get the best of her at times. So what? She's not bad just 'cuz she has a flaw.
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That was the funniest episode I've ever seen, I watched it twice! :D
Ducky is really crazy in this episode! :o
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EVIL!
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In certain parts of the episode she sure was. :D
I did like the song she sung in that episode.
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I did like the song she sung in that episode.
Yeah, me too! Normally I don't like this songs, but this song was different from the others! It was really fun to see how her character has changed.
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Found the song on youtube for those interested, if it's ok to post the song.
My Sky Color Stones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vju1S4Onk28 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vju1S4Onk28)
It is a different sort of song, certainly then the types that Ducky usually sings.
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I have to say, Ducky’s purported lapse of character in this episode wasn’t as extreme as all the hype had led me to expect. I think the reason her behavior comes off as so atypical is because so few movie and episode plots focus on Ducky that viewersóby no fault of their ownóhave a rather narrow and stereotyped view of her character. Therefore, virtually anything Ducky does that does not fit this paradigm is regarded as out of character for her. (It might help if the series had a greater number of Ducky-centric LBT stories; I would REALLY like to see more attention given to this surprisingly neglected character.)
There is some prerequisite for Ducky’s behavior in this episode: she has shown possessiveness before, complaining when Spike ate the “special tree stars” her mother had given her (presumably for lunch) in LBT VIII. Going from jealously valuing personal effects to secretly hoarding them isn’t too great a step.
I think the trouble in this episode started when Cera and Ruby started arguing over which of them could find the most stones. Apart from swimming and log-running, poor Ducky is at a disadvantage in just about every competitive activity her friends engage in. In this contest, however, the odds of winning were more or less equal, and with Ruby and Cera having turned up the competitive atmosphere, Ducky was motivated to prove that this was something she could do just as well as her friends. And while I may be going out on a limb here, the fact that Ducky is usually an inconsequential opponent in most of the gang’s competitions means that her larger friends might not have taken her seriously had she openly expressed interest in joining the hunt for the most sky color stones; perhaps this was another reason she decided to participate so surreptitiously.
Ducky’s initial desire to simply prove herself as a competent rock-finder probably evolved into her obsession with simply taking all the stones for herself when she started carrying the sky color stone Spike found. Its aesthetically captivating appearance caused her to become possessively attached to it, and as a result she became reluctant to share it or any of the other stones she found. (I’m a rock and mineral enthusiast myself, and unusual and/or remarkable stones have a similarly mesmerizing effect on me. :lol)
The problem I DO have with the episode is the way it portrayed Ducky’s descent into kleptomania and jealous guarding of the stones: at the best it didn’t feel believable to me, and at the worst, downright melodramatic. Of course, cheesy moments (unfortunately) appear to be something of a staple of the TV series, so I suppose this isn’t too surprising. :rolleyes
On a side note, if I ever had the chance to take Ducky along with me on a rock-collecting trip, I’d probably do it. She obviously has a good eye for rocks (identifying a “cave sparkle” as well has finding all those sky color stones), and being much closer to the ground than I am, is far better suited for the task of scoping out desirable specimens (I’m six feet tall, nearsighted, and have bad knees; pretty much the worst combination imaginable for walking along looking for tiny objects on the ground :p).
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To bad LBT has in the past not been seen as I think the term is an ensemble cast show where sometimes they may do a story focused on this or that char, so everyone of the main characters gets their turn.
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I will once again point out that I love how we FINALLY got to see a flaw in Ducky's character. She was supposedly the one that did nothin' wrong, while everyone else had shortcomings. There is no such thing as a normal person, and everybody has a dark side (reference to my avatar :p). I really like how it is out in the open that she has a dark side, and despite what she did, I still really like her and my view of her has not changed for the worst. If this is the worst thing she's ever done, she's still innocent compared to many others out there :rolleyes:. It's REALLY easy to take a competitive game too far.
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Yes, as seen in the way Cera acts, then Ducky. To some extent Littlefoot.
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Even before I saw this one, I knew of it from the community as the infamous evil Ducky episode. Well, let's dive right in, shall we? :P
Other assorted thoughts:
First of all, the "Sky Color Stones" song. This is the fifth time they've used that darned melody now. :p Although at least it's pleasant to listen to. It doesn't make my ears bleed like some of the other repeated songs do. :p
The sky color stones in themselves are a really cool concept. :yes Speaking of which...
I wonder how it was the Littlefoot and Cera were the only ones who knew about the sky colored stones? Something tells me there's a story behind that that we don't know.
Interesting. I didn't think of that before. But after reading your comment, now I want to know more about the stones and how Littlefoot and Cera knew about them.
Aww, poor Spike. The previous episode had that sand creeper that kept pinching him, and now he gets stuck inside a cave opening and Ducky just ditches him. I felt bad for him.
Needless to say, this was a pretty entertaining episode. It was pretty jarring to see Ducky act like this, but I enjoyed seeing her rarely-shown darker side. Even if the execution was a bit flawed, it was still a good idea and made for an interesting story. The B-plot here was entertaining as well; Littlefoot, Petrie, and Chomper had some funny scenes together.
Hmmm... do the sky color stones have sinister powers? It reminded me of the One Ring from Lord of the Rings. As in, were Ducky, Cera, and Ruby acting of their own accord when they began to get aggressive and competitive and possessive in finding the stones? Or were the stones actually influencing their behaviour in a negative way? Ultimately I suspect the former, in that the stones weren't meant to be supernatural, but it did make me wonder. And speaking of that...
Did anyone else, upon seeing Ducky fall over the edge of the cliff, immediately think "MY PRECIOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUSSS!!!!!!" ?
Hahaha, nice to know I'm not the only one who thought of LotR. :P
6.75/10