CONFIRMED: Xbox one, used games fee, system DRM

[Campion1]

ALWAYS ONLINE SYSTEM DRM:
http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-require-in...lay-o-509164109

USED GAMES FEE:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/40791...e-for-xbox-one/

Thought I would post these and confirm that these are no longer rumors.

The Microsoft event held today was the worst reveal for a "Game console" I've ever seen. I will be transitioning to PC later this year.

[pokeplayer984]

Well, might as well purchase PS4 as my second console for the new generation of games.

I'll at least wait for something that interests me before getting it, though.

XBox1 has lost me as a customer, though.

[F-14 Ace]

Oh well.  I wasn't planning on buying the stupid thing anyway.  I mean, what can this piece of junk do that the old one can't, besides eat up more money?  Microsoft can suck it.

[Mumbling]

The graphics look good, the rest is shit. I wasn't an XBOX person anyway, so yeah... I'm out

[bushwacked]

So does that mean if you don't have an internet connection, you can't play the console at all? Why would they even do that?

[Mr Wonk]

The design looks bad. It looks like my Dad very first CD player.

[Justin1993]

Looks like a fancy VCR to me. Microsoft described it as "sleek and modern."  
Really, I still can't make sense of all the information regarding the online functionality. One employee says you have to have it on once a day, while another says that is just a "scenario." What does that mean?
The fee issue is also confusing. I still don't understand how it all actually works and Microsoft isn't making it easy to understand.
The name also leaves a lot to be desired. It feels unimaginative, but I can't hold that against them. "PS4" isn't exactly ingenious either.

[Kor]

I'm just glad there are more options then just going with one of the large game consoles.  Besides PC there is also android, the apple one, and Ouya, not sure if it is out yet or not.  I also read in a magazine about the Gamestick and Nvidia Shield game consoles, that should be out this year.  More options are good.

[pokeplayer984]

Oh, look at this.  No indie games allowed.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/...hing-Off-Limits

*joke*Microsoft, be honest, are you trying to make this the WORST console ever?  It sure seems like it to me. */joke*

[Mr Wonk]

Looks like a fancy VCR to me. Microsoft described it as "sleek and modern."  
Really, I still can't make sense of all the information regarding the online functionality. One employee says you have to have it on once a day, while another says that is just a "scenario." What does that mean?
The fee issue is also confusing. I still don't understand how it all actually works and Microsoft isn't making it easy to understand.
The name also leaves a lot to be desired. It feels unimaginative, but I can't hold that against them. "PS4" isn't exactly ingenious either.

It would be if it was from the 90's.

[Belmont2500]

So does that mean if you don't have an internet connection, you can't play the console at all? Why would they even do that?

Because they're assholes.  <_<

[Animeboye]

Why is Microsoft calling it the X Box One?

Because you take one look at it and go straight for the PS4.

[DarkHououmon]

So does that mean if you don't have an internet connection, you can't play the console at all? Why would they even do that?

Because they're assholes.  <_<

Specifically, it's to keep more control over the games they sell and makes it easier to tell if the game you are playing is used or is a pirated copy, if I remember right.

[F-14 Ace]

PS4 doesn't have reverse compatibility.  I'm not giving up my PS2 games.  I have no plans of buying a new game system.  Once they stop making 360 games, I'm gone with buying games forever.

[landbeforetimelover]

PC Gaming FTW!  The graphics is like 1000x better anyway.  Needless to say, I won't be buying an XBOX ever again.  I might look at the PS4 later.

[F-14 Ace]

PC Gaming FTW!  The graphics is like 1000x better anyway.  Needless to say, I won't be buying an XBOX ever again.  I might look at the PS4 later.

This anti-piracy crap already killed PC gaming.

[DarkHououmon]

PS4 doesn't have reverse compatibility.  I'm not giving up my PS2 games.  I have no plans of buying a new game system.  Once they stop making 360 games, I'm gone with buying games forever.

Sony is working on a workaround for that through cloud-based gaming and/or emulation. Not sure if they will actually put it on the final console or not. But at least they are working on some way to keep the ability to play previous PS games. That's more than I can say for Microsoft.

[landbeforetimelover]

This anti-piracy crap already killed PC gaming.

Well yeah if your sole goal is to pirate games, it's more difficult now (though NOT impossible).  But it's difficult to pirate console games too.  Steam makes it easy to sell your "digital" games.  Just give the new owner your account details.  Make a new account for every game.  Most gamers do this already.  And pirating the stuff is easy as pie if you know what you're doing.  

I have my own code of conduct when it comes to piracy.  I'll gladly pirate something I never would have purchased in the first place.  But I will purchase games even at their ridiculous prices so I don't pirate those.  I don't have a lot of experience in pirating games from Steam and such, but I know it can be done.

[pokeplayer984]

You know, looking at all of these things that Microsoft have put into the Xbox1, I can't help but feel that there's some sort of law that they are breaking with this thing.

However, I'm still not sure on how well the "first sales rights" argument against this would hold up in court.

This thing just feels not only wrong, but illegal. :unsure:

[landbeforetimelover]

I hope MS pays big for this, just like they're paying big for being such greedy a-holes with Windows 8.