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Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on June 27, 2010, 08:13:36 AM
Heya! :wave
So, here it is... my project I'm currently working on: "Dawn of a Wingtail", a Land Before Time comic. :lol:
Unlike previous comic attempts and failures, I finished the whole story of this one and I hope to manage it till the end. :D
Thank you Caustizer for inspiring me! :^.^:

List of pages:
(http://q24t.img-up.net/DoaW-0007bvmk.jpg) (http://q24.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-0007bvmk.jpg) (http://r84t.img-up.net/DoaW-001mbogk.jpg) (http://r84.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-001mbogk.jpg) (http://c50t.img-up.net/DoaW-0027qfhe.jpg) (http://c50.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-0027qfhe.jpg) (http://o53t.img-up.net/DoaW-003udmiu.jpg) (http://o53.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-003udmiu.jpg) (http://c11t.img-up.net/DoaW-004dmyr1.jpg) (http://c11.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-004dmyr1.jpg)

(http://x98t.img-up.net/DoaW-005ird8w.jpg) (http://x98.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-005ird8w.jpg) (http://r54t.img-up.net/Doaw-006jlmtd.jpg) (http://r54.img-up.net/?up=Doaw-006jlmtd.jpg)
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on June 27, 2010, 08:13:49 AM
Okay, so let's start with the cover and page 01:
(http://d66t.img-up.net/DoaW-000e5naq.jpg) (http://d66.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-000e5naq.jpg) (http://a68t.img-up.net/DoaW-001onh5k.jpg) (http://a68.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-001onh5k.jpg)

The cover was only a practice on backgrounds at first, but I liked it too much and used it as a cover instead. ^_^
As for page one, nothing much happens right now in the Great Valley. The day is almost over, dinosaurs having dinner and Sky is flying around. I wonder why? =O

I apologize for the lack of shading of page one. Took me long enough to finish the first two panels and shading every panel would be too much for me. XP

Until the next pages, enjoy!  :DD
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Kor on June 27, 2010, 10:33:26 AM
Very nice artwork.  Looks interesting.  Sounds , and looks, like that did take quite some time to do.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: 2007excalibur2007 on June 27, 2010, 12:25:50 PM
Lookin' good so far - can't wait to see the rest. :smile
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Chiletrek on June 27, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
Hello:
 It looks awesome, I like that you placed the image from your signature in the comic's cover :DD .
 As for how it is painted and drawn: pure eye-candy.
 Keep it up!
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on June 27, 2010, 05:05:10 PM
This is extremely detailed and well coloured.  From the looks of it your comic is probably the closest art that I have found to what an LBT movie would actually look like, and this enhances it immeasurably compared to some other art that doesn't share the same style.

That being said, I was hoping for a bit more insight into the path the story is going to take from the first few pages, and they dissapoint in that regard.  Every story needs a good beginning I suppose, and it looks like we will have to wait to see what you have planned for us.

Caustizer.  :angel
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on June 27, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
This looks fantastic! :wow

Good idea to keep the cover artwork. I agree, it looks beautiful. :yes The yellowish rocks look a tiny bit strange (and the ones by the bushes in the background seem a little out of place), but otherwise the picture is nearly flawless. The vegetation in particularóthe grass, the tree, the bushesóis astounding. The clouds and the sky are gorgeous as well.

I honestly can’t come up with anything substantial to criticize about the art Page One. I really like the art style; it’s very “comic-booky”, but it’s distinctly yours, and clearly LBT. As far as I’m concerned, you did a masterful job drawing simplified yet still reasonably realistic backgrounds. I’m especially fond of the trees and rocks in the background of the frame with the longnecks, who look very good themselves (Awesome job making the water plants the one in the foreground is eating look wet). And I absolutely LOVE the two pictures of Sky. :wow The angle, the expression, the distance at which you’re showing him, how much of him is visible; it’s just perfect.

While I like how the opening lines are reminiscent of the first movie, I couldn’t help but feel that some of them didn’t work too well with one another:
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Upon the same Earth, beneath the same sun . . .
. . . this planet we call Earth was quite a different place . . .
. . . and this world was home to the dinosaurs. . .
In addition to the fact that the introduction effectively references “this world” three times, the first and second quoted lines do not really work as parts of the same sentence. (Please tell me if I am not being clear.)

If you wanted to preserve the original-movie-sounding style of the introduction, you could delete the second quoted line, and change the third to “it was the time of the dinosaurs” or something of the like.

I’m very excited to see more of this. :DD
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on June 28, 2010, 12:01:04 PM
Caustizer
Aww man... D:
Sorry I disappointed you again. I promise to upload more pages much earlier. :angel

Pangaea
The third line was actually a new sentence. ;) How about:

Upon the same land, beneath the same sun...
...this planet we call Earth was quite a different place.

'And this world was home to the dinosaurs.' or like you mentioned 'It was the time of the dinosaurs'.

I would like to keep some more lines to fill the page. It looks less boring in my opinion. :^.^:
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on June 28, 2010, 12:06:23 PM
Quote from: Sky,Jun 28 2010 on  11:01 AM
Caustizer
Aww man... D:
Sorry I disappointed you again. I promise to upload more pages much earlier. :angel
I wouldn't view it as dissapointment Sky, try just to think of it as constructive criticism.  :smile

Both pages are great, but if I just only said that then my review wouldn't be all that useful would it?  :DD

Caustizer
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on June 29, 2010, 01:49:53 AM
Quote from: Caustizer,Jun 27 2010 on  04:05 PM
That being said, I was hoping for a bit more insight into the path the story is going to take from the first few pages, and they dissapoint in that regard.  Every story needs a good beginning I suppose, and it looks like we will have to wait to see what you have planned for us.
I’m not 100% certain that I’m not misunderstanding you, but might that be speaking just a teensy bit too soon? It's just the cover (which, admittedly, doesn't say much about the story, although it looks nice) and the first page, with all of four frames to set up the introduction. Personally, I don't like a story that jumps into things too quickly. I'm anticipating that the next couple of pages will do more to establish the direction this one is headed.

Quote from: Sky,Jun 28 2010 on  11:01 AM
The third line was actually a new sentence. ;) How about:

Upon the same land, beneath the same sun...
...this planet we call Earth was quite a different place.

'And this world was home to the dinosaurs.' or like you mentioned 'It was the time of the dinosaurs'.

I would like to keep some more lines to fill the page. It looks less boring in my opinion. :^.^:
Ah. Well, the thing is, the part before that isn't really a sentence in itself, in the same way that the words “Once upon a time . . .” are the first half of an introductory sentence. Because of that, changing “Earth” to “land” doesn't really solve the problem I mentioned. In fact, personally I'd stick with “Earth”. In addition to sounding better, there's been a LOT of geological change since the time of the dinosaurs, so arguably it's NOT the same land as today.

Maybe instead of
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“...this planet we call Earth was quite a different place.”
. . . you could say something like, “the land, the plants, and the animals were quite different” (or just “the land was quite different”, and/or ending it with “from today”). That would work. :yes
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on July 05, 2010, 04:36:20 PM
Alright, I edited the first page just like you said, Pangaea.  ;)

And yay! New page :lol:
(http://n21t.img-up.net/DoaW-002dycxl.jpg) (http://n21.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-002dycxl.jpg)

Sorry for the delay, but just look at the fourth panel... o__O
I spend too much time on backgrounds.  :p

Hmm, I hope to speed up the story a bit with the next few pages. It progresses really slow. :unsure:
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Mumbling on July 05, 2010, 05:20:18 PM
Awesome job on the details Sky! Honestly, I think releasing 1 page per week works when making such extremely detailed background. Great job! :)
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on July 05, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
Quote from: Sky,Jul 5 2010 on  03:36 PM
Alright, I edited the first page just like you said, Pangaea.  ;)
Looks good. That works much better. :yes

And great job on the new page. I really like Sky’s pose in the second panel, and the landscape in the fourth panel is awesome! :wow (Heck, the background in the second panel looks darn good, too. :yes) I also like the little effect of Sky’s foot hitting the ground in the first panel, and the detail of the ground.

So, has Sky been living in the Great Valley for a while now, and already knows the gang well? (If you’ve done any previous comics or stories in which Sky is introduced, I haven’t seen them. :oops)

As I’m sure everyone else is, I’m wondering who’s the one who crashed into Sky. I’m going to guess Petrie, coming in for a less-than-graceful landing. :lol
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on July 05, 2010, 07:57:13 PM
I love this page, as it really shows off not just pristine background making skills but also a wide mixture of facial poses of Sky.  My favourite posture is the third frame where he is remarking about the nice view, as he looks kind of puppy-eyed.  The fourth frame looks a little bit off though in regards to the connection of his feathers to his head - they look stuck on as opposed to being melded and streamlined like normal birds :! .  Also I'm sure Pangaea will pick this up, but his head looks a little bit too big in proportion to his eyes compared to the other shots.

This is actually exactly what I wanted in the last two pages, though I might not have expressed it clearly enough at the time.  I was hoping for a 'taste' of Sky's character to see how his appearance and his personality have changed and this page delivers and delivers well  :smile

As for who crashed into him, I'm betting it's Guido since he is Sky's favourite character apart from his own inventions.  :angel

Caustizer.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on July 06, 2010, 04:35:43 PM
Hmm... 1 or 2 pages a week sounds good to me.   :)

Quote from: Pangaea on  
So, has Sky been living in the Great Valley for a while now, and already knows the gang well? (If you’ve done any previous comics or stories in which Sky is introduced, I haven’t seen them. :oops)
Yes, Sky knows the gang well. :)
Sadly, there is no introduction of him to the gang. I did it on previous comic attempts but they got canceled.  :cry

Quote from: Caustizer on  
The fourth frame looks a little bit off though in regards to the connection of his feathers to his head
That is where I had problems with. I tried to make them look like Ruby's 'feathers', or Guido's, looking at some references. But it didn't look that good, had to enlarge Sky's feathers or add more to fit his back head.  :unsure:
Though, I will try next time to solve this problem.  :yes
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on July 06, 2010, 07:01:25 PM
Quote from: Caustizer,Jul 5 2010 on  06:57 PM
Also I'm sure Pangaea will pick this up, but his head looks a little bit too big in proportion to his eyes compared to the other shots.
Actually, I didn't notice that. :oops

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As for who crashed into him, I'm betting it's Guido since he is Sky's favourite character apart from his own inventions.  :angel
Guido, right! I can't believe I didn't think of him! :slap He does sound like a better candidate for a crash landing than Petrie.

If it is Guido, I'm curious as to see if he will look any different now that a few years have passed.

Quote from: Sky,Jul 6 2010 on  03:35 PM
Quote from: Pangaea on  
So, has Sky been living in the Great Valley for a while now, and already knows the gang well? (If you’ve done any previous comics or stories in which Sky is introduced, I haven’t seen them. :oops)
Yes, Sky knows the gang well. :)
Sadly, there is no introduction of him to the gang. I did it on previous comic attempts but they got canceled.  :cry
Aw, that's a shame. :(

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Quote from: Caustizer on  
The fourth frame looks a little bit off though in regards to the connection of his feathers to his head
That is where I had problems with. I tried to make them look like Ruby's 'feathers', or Guido's, looking at some references. But it didn't look that good, had to enlarge Sky's feathers or add more to fit his back head.  :unsure:
I do agree, the feathers look a little strange (almost more like horns spikes). The problem I see is that Sky's head feathers are broadest at the base, with no visible shafts. It’s hard to make a feather look like it is realistically connected to a bird if the small attachment point is not indicated (with the feather vane narrowing towards the base), or if said attachment point is not obscured by other feathers. I’m not sure what to suggest; hiding the bases of the crest feathers with shorter, fuzzier head feathers probably wouldn’t look too good on Sky. :unsure:

I also noticed that the second feather from the top is overlapped by both the feathers above and below it, when it should overlap the feather above it.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on July 12, 2010, 10:08:14 AM
Let us update with a new page. :lol:

(http://t35t.img-up.net/DoaW-003xj5eq.jpg) (http://t35.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-003xj5eq.jpg)

I get really distracted too much and too easily... >_>
It looks like I upload pages every week. XP

Anyway, now we all know who crashed into Sky: Guido! (it should have been Petrie at first, but you guys changed my mind. It's now better than I expected). :)
I messed up making Guido look older though... :confused
Cool! It's Petrie's first appearance. :D

Ah well, at this point, pages will now randomly appear. I want to work on other things too. ^_^
But don't worry, I'll work on it too every now and then. :lol:

Oh yeah, I tried a different look for his backfeathers. Hmm... it doesn't look that good when his feathers can't be fully seen. =/
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on July 13, 2010, 12:08:44 PM
I had a nice review, but I accidently pressed the '`' 'Esc' combo of keys which totally deleted everything.  :anger

I'm too pissed to write it all again right now, so I'll simply content myself with smashing the keyboard and cursing the idiot who decided to put a delete everything key combination in until i get home from work tonight.

Caustizer.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on July 13, 2010, 03:53:56 PM
^ Sorry to hear that, Caustizer. :( Danged computers. :rolleyes

I love this page! :DD The first panel is hilarious! :lol And Guido is amazingly well drawn, even if he doesn’t look older. (Adult Microraptor were only three feet long, and a number of fans think of Guido as being nearly adult already anyway.)

And wow! I didn’t expect that our comments would have such an impact on how you decided to do the comic. :wow Way to go, Caustizer, for inspiring the change in crash-landing character choice! :D

You also did a terrific job on Petrie. I love his landing pose in the second panel. I can’t shake the feeling, however, that his left leg shouldn’t be completely divided from his body the way it was in that other picture (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=1785&view=findpost&p=9191617) you drew of him (despite being the one who suggested you draw it that way in the first place :oops), because in this pose we are seeing him from more of a frontal view. Maybe it would look best if a bit of the body outline extended past the lines where the legs meet the body, but the center of the area of the leg was contiguous with the body, with no line dividing it (Basically, it would be what you have now with the center of the leg/body dividing line erased, but leaving a little on each side).

By the way, the dividing line between Petrie’s stomach and left leg in the second-to-last panel is just fine. ;)

I notice that Petrie doesn’t have any lines on this page that would betray whether his speech ability has improved or not. Have you decided how he’s going to talk in this comic?

One issue I do have with the first panel is that Sky literally appears to have no neck. It looks as if his body ends at his shoulders, and his head is lying on the ground directly in front of where his neck should be.

A couple of text corrections: In the second-to-last panel, Sky’s line should be “I couldn’t enjoy seeing the Bright Circle set”. Also, in the very last panel, there should be no comma immediately after “mister”.

And actually, I’m very impressed by how quickly you’re managing to get these pages up. I imagine it’s a lot of work to plan, draw, and color these things. :o
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Mumbling on July 13, 2010, 04:11:21 PM
Quote from: Pangaea,Jul 13 2010 on  01:53 PM
Also, in the very last panel, there should be no comma immediately after “mister”.
I think he meant to show that Guido does not quite know how he wants to call Sky... Should he say mister, or sky, or sir? I don't think he meant to say Mister Sky :p

Anyway, once again a lovely page and 2 thumbs up for your speed and consistency! :)
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on July 14, 2010, 12:00:11 PM
Ok now for my second try. :angel

Impressive work as always Sky.  I noticed a couple of things on here that reveal a similarity to the Far Away Home depiction of Sky.  Firstly, he enjoys watching the sunset at night, which is because it reminds him Star in my story.  Second, the others call him Mr. Sky as opposed to Mr. Wingtail or just plain Sky, which implies he is not only older but somewhat of an authority figure in the valley.  Lastly, he gets annoyed when they interrupt him which is perfectly indictive of his reaction to Petrie and Guido in my story.

Note also the irony of Petrie and Guido being the first two characters to appear with Sky, just as it was in FAH as well.   :smile

I wouldn't be too worried about Guido's age though... the thing is that in LBT 12 he is an adult, albight a confused and dazed one.  You can tell in his posture and articulation as well as how the denizens of the valley treat him.  In that sense, it is perfectly reasonable that he would look the same after all the others have grown up.

Looking forward to the next comic.

Caustizer.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on July 14, 2010, 12:17:04 PM
^ Okay, the first fact is something I already knew. ;)
The second one is... more a 'Guido-like' speech. Sky asked the others not to call him like that (which will be explained in later pages). :angel
The last two though, is something I couldn't remember. They're complete coincidence. :wow

Ok, as for the minor flaws (like Petrie's leg or grammar errors), they can easily be fixed.  :)
Sadly, the first panel with Sky's neck is something I have to redraw completely (so I keep it as it is).  :(

As a further notice, a friend of mine on deviantart thinks, it would look much better if the first two panels have still the afterglow effect of the sun rather than disappear all of a sudden.
What are your thoughts about it?
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on July 15, 2010, 12:57:17 AM
Quote from: Mumbling,Jul 13 2010 on  03:11 PM
Quote from: Pangaea,Jul 13 2010 on  01:53 PM
Also, in the very last panel, there should be no comma immediately after “mister”.
I think he meant to show that Guido does not quite know how he wants to call Sky... Should he say mister, or sky, or sir? I don't think he meant to say Mister Sky :p
Good point there. I considered that possibility, but decided to just go with the assumption that (artist) Sky meant to have Guido referring to (character) Sky as "Mister Sky". :oops

Quote from: Sky,Jul 14 2010 on  11:17 AM
As a further notice, a friend of mine on deviantart thinks, it would look much better if the first two panels have still the afterglow effect of the sun rather than disappear all of a sudden.
What are your thoughts about it?
Hmm…your friend is right that the sun appears to have gone down pretty quickly, though on the other hand we don't know how long the crash left Sky and Guido dazed. :p However, if it's not too hard to change the background, then I don't see why not. :)
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on July 15, 2010, 03:52:59 AM
^ Changing colors or lines that are 'inside' a character is easy to edit, unlike lines that connects to the background or other characters.  ;)
I'll fix the minor flaws as soon as possible. :^.^:
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on July 15, 2010, 04:24:11 AM
^ Just to let you know, I'm not entirely certain that my suggestion for Petrie's leg (erasing only the center part of the dividing line between his leg and body but leaving a bit of line on each side) will look better; :unsure: being the expert artist, you'd probably have better judgment on whether or not it looks good (Maybe you could do a quick test sketch to make sure).
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on July 15, 2010, 06:39:44 AM
Well, this is how it would look like:
(http://w84.img-up.net/sqkja513v3.PNG)

I'm quite unsure myself... :unsure:
But then again, it's just a single panel so its nothing really to worry about.  :)
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on July 15, 2010, 07:16:16 AM
Hmm…that is a toughie. :unsure: Personally, though, I think the two on the left are both improvements over the original. My suggestion would be to combine them in a way, using the lower line from the far left image, and the upper line from the center image. In other words, take the version on the far left and make the line leading down across Petrie’s leg from the side of his body as long as that of the center version. The line coming up from below should remain short, as it is in the far left. That’s my opinion, anyway (I hope I communicated it well enough).
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: DarkHououmon on July 15, 2010, 09:54:46 AM
Quote from: Pangaea,Jul 15 2010 on  07:16 AM
Hmm…that is a toughie. :unsure: Personally, though, I think the two on the left are both improvements over the original. My suggestion would be to combine them in a way, using the lower line from the far left image, and the upper line from the center image. In other words, take the version on the far left and make the line leading down across Petrie’s leg from the side of his body as long as that of the center version. The line coming up from below should remain short, as it is in the far left. That’s my opinion, anyway (I hope I communicated it well enough).
I agree. I prefer the two images on the left over the last one on the right. The lines connecting at the start of Petrie's leg in the last image seems to give Petrie more of a.. "figurine-ish" kind of look, like his leg can be pulled out. The other two gives the leg a more flesh-like appearance and looks like it's part of the body rather than simply attached, in my opinion. The only time I would think the lines at the start of the leg should connect is if the underside of the character is colored differently, like in Guido's case. But Petrie doesn't have that lighter colored underside (where his stomach and between his legs are of a different color or shade than his legs and sides). So connecting the lines wouldn't make much sense, at least to me.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Chiletrek on July 15, 2010, 03:15:53 PM
Hello:
 And I agree with DarkHououmon, the one in the left is better for the same reasons she gave, due to the colors Petrie has. And that also gives more uniformity to the character.
 Keep it up!
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on July 21, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
Alright, time to update!  :lol:

First, I edited and fixed page 03:
(http://o53t.img-up.net/DoaW-003udmiu.jpg) (http://o53.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-003udmiu.jpg)

Now for the next page:
(http://v66t.img-up.net/DoaW-004vwf5r.jpg) (http://v66.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-004vwf5r.jpg)

Main focus of page: Bringing Sky to a different place.
(^ the small notes tell what I want to reach with it's page :))

There is nothing much else to say, I guess. :unsure:
Hmm... I really need to practice to draw from different angles. >__>
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Adder on July 21, 2010, 04:27:52 PM
Quote from: Sky,Jul 6 2010 on  03:35 PM
I did it on previous comic attempts but they got canceled.  :cry
Why'd it get cancelled?
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on July 22, 2010, 11:06:27 PM
First of all, in the revised Page 3, Petrie’s leg looks much better. I didn’t even notice the change in the sky until I compared the old and new versions, but it’s a great improvement as well. :yes

And hey, you changed the clouds in the first two panels as well! :wow The outlines are lighter now! Looks good! :smile

As for the new page: The first thing I want to say is that the second panel cracked me up. :lol Poor Guido, he’s just trying to be polite.

I really like how Guido looks in the first panel. I’m not sure why; I just like the perspective. The corner of his green “cap” looks kind of sharp, and maybe shouldn’t protrude that far to the right if you can still see his throat coloration from that angle.

Petrie looks good in the first panel as well. Really, all of the characters in all of the panels are well drawn. Sky’s head feathers even look better from the back than they did on Page 2. Good work!

The only other area that could potentially be improved is Pterie’s upper arms in the last panel, which look to be thinner than his forearms (mainly closer to the elbows), when they should be at least the same width.

By the way, congratulations! There were no writing errors on this page that I could see! :D

Quote from: Sky,Jul 21 2010 on  03:17 PM
Hmm... I really need to practice to draw from different angles. >__>
Really? I think you're doing great with the different angles! (Though personally, I'm hopeless when it comes to drawing just about anything from different angles. :rolleyes) You're incredibly good at drawing characters consistently. :yes
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on July 22, 2010, 11:33:42 PM
I really like the perspective shots of Sky from behind and directly underneith when he takes off. It shows definate improvement from the previous drawings, as well as bringing to light some interesting features.

The 'fuzzy' patch that covers Sky's back is unique for a bird, which leads me to think that wingtails might actually be part mammal like bats.  Also, the wings are a pure blue on the back as opposed to feathered which means that only wingtail males have feathers in front compared to females which are membrane all the way through.

I'd like to see some more characters in the next comic too... especially new ones like Star, Lima, and Glide to see your interpretations.

Looking forward to the new pages, :angel

Caustizer.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on July 23, 2010, 01:47:18 AM
Quote from: Caustizer,Jul 22 2010 on  10:33 PM
The 'fuzzy' patch that covers Sky's back is unique for a bird, which leads me to think that wingtails might actually be part mammal like bats.
Or they could just be simple, fur-like feathers, like what many feathered dinosaurs had. Somebody did once hypothesize that mammals and birds had a common ancestor (the “stem-haematotherm”, described here (http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/03/the_stem-haematotherm.php) and illustrated here (http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/i%20provide%20no%20comment%20here%20so%20no%20point%20looking.jpg)), but it’s almost universally regarded as bunk. :p

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Also, the wings are a pure blue on the back as opposed to feathered which means that only wingtail males have feathers in front compared to females which are membrane all the way through.
I always assumed Sky’s wings were like Guido’s: entirely comprised of feathers, but with the feathers on the back not as distinct as the primaries and secondaries on the front. Although it would seem more realistic if both male and female wingtails had membranous wings, but in males they were entirely covered with (and thus concealed by) feathers.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: JitteryDragon on July 23, 2010, 04:51:44 AM
I don't know why I didn't see this earlier, it's quite nice. Not much for reading LBT fiction stuff, but damn... this is good.

Guido is pro drawn, doesn't matter that he looks the same age... Microraptor GUI never grew to be big. Petrie is also good for that matter... and of course the background, very nice.

Only wish things would move along faster, but I'm patient.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on August 03, 2010, 01:53:30 PM
How is progress coming along with this anyway? It's been quite a while since you added anything :)
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on August 04, 2010, 03:15:00 AM
I'm totaly sorry, but things are keeping me busy.  :p
Been working on other stuff and there was also pokeplayer's fanart contest...

Huh... maybe I should update with news like you do with FAH rather than keep quiet.  :!
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on August 12, 2010, 12:46:07 PM
Aahhh! I'm terribly sorry for being so inactive. X__X Then again... I'm only at this section active. o_O
I need to contribute more than just artworks...  :bang

Ok, about their wings: Male wingtails have membranous wings just like females. But, they are much smaller and covered completely by feathers (like they were never there :p). Female wings have larger membranous wings to produce enough heat to brood their eggs. :^.^: A big thank you goes to Pangaea for this info!  :yes

Now back to the comic:
Page 04: Petrie's upperarms are now a little thicker and Guido's backhead color is fixed. The page can be seen at the first page of this thread.
 :)

Now an update with two pages!  :lol:
(http://x98t.img-up.net/DoaW-005ird8w.jpg) (http://x98.img-up.net/?up=DoaW-005ird8w.jpg) (http://c94t.img-up.net/Doaw-006pmvjb.jpg) (http://c94.img-up.net/?up=Doaw-006pmvjb.jpg)

Happy birthday, Caustizer!  :birthday Here's your 'surprise' present :^.^:
Page 05 focus: Sky's home
Page 06 focus: Sky meet's Star

Now I need some rest... two pages in one week is tough. x_x
Nevertheless, enjoy!  :)
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Kor on August 13, 2010, 10:20:34 AM
It's been great fun reading these pages so far.  You do great work.  Hope to see more at whatever schedule you can post at the fits your schedule.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on August 13, 2010, 05:14:20 PM
Thank you very much for this present Sky!  I was looking forward to another page of your comic but instead you gave two... lots of material to see and review.  :smile

I'll start with the first page. Sky's home is quite interesting... mainly because it's a cave instead of a tree (how I had envisioned wingtails living).  I wonder what the inside looks like?  All considered it seems to be quite secluded and somewhat lonely, so I would assume that in this story Sky lives apart from the GOF most of the time.

The flower part is intrigueing, because in Far Away Home Sky uses a trick with one to first gain Star's attention.  Perhaps the sad memory is the same in this story? Or maybe it will turn out to be quite different.

I like the sad expression on Sky's face, as it is an emotion we haven't seen depicted in drawing for him yet.

Caustizer.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on August 18, 2010, 12:44:37 AM
Argh! Sorry I forgot to post here earlier! :slap

Wow, two pages! :wow Very nice! :yes I can’t even find anything to nitpick about the art! :smile :p

Quote from: Sky,Aug 12 2010 on  11:46 AM
Ok, about their wings: Male wingtails have membranous wings just like females. But, they are much smaller and covered completely by feathers (like they were never there :p). Female wings have larger membranous wings to produce enough heat to breed their eggs. :^.^: A big thank you goes to Pangaea for this info!  :yes
You're very welcome. :)

Just so you know, the correct word is “brood”, not “breed”. Brooding is the act of incubating the eggs and young; Breeding is the process of reproduction as a whole, of which brooding is just one part.

Quote from: Caustizer,Aug 13 2010 on  04:14 PM
I'll start with the first page. Sky's home is quite interesting... mainly because it's a cave instead of a tree (how I had envisioned wingtails living).
I suppose it would be hard for him to find a tree with a large enough hollow to comfortably accommodate him. :p

I love the surprised expression on Sky’s face in the first panel of Page 6! :lol His expression in the last panel of Page 5 is very well done, too. :o You did such an amazing job making him look sad. Tears couldn’t make him look any sadder.

So in this universe, Sky has never met Star before? Or does he just not recognize her from the distance? (Don’t answer that; I’ll be happy to wait to find out in the upcoming pages. :smile)

By the way, Sky’s last line on Page 6, “It’s been ages since I’ve seen one the last time” would be more grammatically correct if it were worded as “It’s been ages since the last time I’ve seen one” or “It’s been ages since I’ve last seen one.”

Great pages! My curiosity is highly piqued for what’s coming next. :D
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on August 19, 2010, 03:05:58 PM
Sorry for responding so late. >_< I'm glad you guys like it so far.  :lol
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By the way, Sky’s last line on Page 6, “It’s been ages since I’ve seen one the last time” would be more grammatically correct if it were worded as “It’s been ages since the last time I’ve seen one” or “It’s been ages since I’ve last seen one.”
It's now fixed. :^.^:

As for the comic: I'm sorry I couldn't come up with a new page. -_-
New things and ideas came into my head that I would like to include. The basic story will still remain as planned but with a few new and/or different events.

I hope to update soon with new pages as soon as possible.  :)
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on August 19, 2010, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: Sky,Aug 19 2010 on  02:05 PM
As for the comic: I'm sorry I couldn't come up with a new page. -_-
New things and ideas came into my head that I would like to include. The basic story will still remain as planned but with a few new and/or different events.
 
That happens to me too.  Lots of the little conversations and events in Far Away Home are not planned, but envisioned and added in as I write.  Take for example when Gentry steals a fastrunner egg, and Siak... wait, that hasn't happened yet!  Almost got ahead of myself there. :angel

Caustizer.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on September 12, 2010, 01:46:34 PM
I have some bad news.

The comic 'Dawn of a Wingtail' is currently on hold. That means no new pages in the near future. :(
School has started already for me for a week and looking at my shedule, it looks like I have less free time to work on it. Further more, there are still commissions to do.

But I thought, wouldn't it be better to finish some pages (like a complete chapter) and then post one page everyday rather than post and wait until the next page is up? :unsure:
Ooh... how I wish to finish this... >_<
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Pangaea on September 12, 2010, 02:16:37 PM
Take your time :) (I know how much of a time-eater school can be :rolleyes). I'm just desperately hoping that the comic doesn't die like the other ones you mentioned having started but never finished. :unsure: :(
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on September 12, 2010, 02:25:41 PM
I don't want it to die either. >_<
I would really like to give my wingtail characters a proper story and I can't wait for certain scenes and characters to draw. I could just draw single pictures but they would spoil too much (like pictures of Sky and Star so you already know they will be together). :p
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Kor on September 12, 2010, 02:27:39 PM
Just take your time.  School takes up a lot of your time and should be your main focus.  Commissions also should come first before your own projects, so no hurry on your doing more pages of this comic.  You'll have time to do it in the future.  Don't forget to have time to rest and do other stuff also, good luck.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Chiletrek on September 12, 2010, 05:01:45 PM
Hello:
 We all knoe that real-life is priority, so I say that you can look how things are going and you'll be able to make yourself your own schedule for your comic and your artworks.
 Just don't give up on your projects.
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on January 13, 2011, 07:37:22 PM
Such a long time since anything has been posted in this thread.  It's a shame really that this comic will likely never be finished, but at least the artwork was very good for the pages that were done.

When you consider all the fanfictions that have died over the past few months, it's pretty amazing that Far Away Home is still going and almost done.  I think I'll miss it when I'm finally finished, though Journey to Blacksun will hopefully be just as good (if a bit shorter). :angel

Caustizer
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on January 16, 2011, 04:50:31 PM
I'm sorry...
I'm so sorry I didn't continue my comic for three(!) months now. :(

I recently had a few days ago, a big motivation to work further on it. Sadly, it disappeared...
It's probably because I don't have the time anymore, or it's because of school, or life is just torturing me...  <_<

Again, I'm terribly sorry... :cry
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Caustizer on January 16, 2011, 06:54:09 PM
You don't have to aplogise so much you know, it's bad for self esteem. :angel

I'd like to see you start adding pages again, like I'm sure a lot of members of the site would, but the bottom line is it's your project and your choice whether you wish to complete it or not.

Naturally though, I do wonder if you have any pages already done that you are keeping to post as a whole chapter, but it's a silent wonder.  :smile

Caustizer
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: Sky on January 17, 2011, 04:25:54 AM
Sadly, I don't have any new pages done...  :cry  :oops
Title: Dawn of a Wingtail
Post by: oogaboo on January 17, 2011, 11:40:12 AM
You got a nice lookin' web comic here!  :)

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Sadly, I don't have any new pages done... dino_sad.gif dino_oops.gif

Here is what I do to discipline myself into making a new comic page. I illustrate the page in two days max, Color it in in two days and give a few details in three days so thats about a week in trying to finish a page in a week. Or you can do what I've learned from a professional Illustrator; draw your entire comic book (it might be 25 to 30pgs) in pencil and ink within three weeks. Then color it all in. Right now I'm on my 24th page so I'll be done with my Web Comic soon.