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The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: landbeforetimelover on June 08, 2007, 03:01:28 AM

Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: landbeforetimelover on June 08, 2007, 03:01:28 AM
Why in the world did they start off lbt 2 with a song?  It really ruined the movie for me at least in the beginning.  It just started off so childish that I couldn't take the movie very seriously.  Not to mention that I couldn't concentrate on the movie cuz I had that song in my head the whole time.  Did anyone else have this problem?
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Malte279 on June 08, 2007, 03:40:43 AM
It took some time for me to get used to the idea of singing dinosaurs. At first I turned the volume very low when watching LBT movies as I felt more embarassed by the songs than by my family members knowing that I watched LBT movies. LBT 2 did not include a song I was particularly fond of, but I liked Kids like us a lot. This one and "Always There" (along with the majority of songs which are no real "hits" but not bad either) converted me to support the idea of the songs. As for why they started the songs in the first place I have absolutely no idea. Sometimes the songs can explain things which would sound awkward or longwinded in "normal talk", but I doubt this is the reason for the songs. Maybe somebody in a deceicive position just liked music ;)
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: landbeforetimelover on June 08, 2007, 04:18:59 AM
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It took some time for me to get used to the idea of singing dinosaurs.

That's not exactly what I mean here.  It didnt' take me any time at all.  I like the song at the beginning of lbt 2, I just think that the very beginning is the worst place they could have put it.

I would also like to add that the songs are what make me embarrassed to watch lbt too.  I wouldn't be so embarrassed if there were no songs.  It just wouldn't be lbt without them though.  I sure hope they don't get rid of them.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Malte279 on June 08, 2007, 04:41:19 AM
To describe the importance of the Great Valley and imply a reference to the events of the first movie the song was quite suitable. The importance of the Great Valley had to be underlined at the beginning of the movie to lay out the stage. It could have been done by a dialogue, but I don't think a dialogue would have gotten the message across as well as a song:

Littlefoot: "This Valley is awesome!"
Ducky: "Yep, yep, yep, it is!"
Petrie: "Me no have worries about being hungry anymore!"
Ducky: "Nope, nope, nope, neither have I!"
Cera: "It was so hard to get here! Now we're safe! Safe at last!"
Ducky: "Yep, yep, yep, we are!"

I admit that one could probably write a more fancy dialogue, but I think that a song was probably more handy to get the message across and to set the stage the message had to be at the very beginning of the movie.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: landbeforetimelover on June 08, 2007, 04:47:43 AM
Now I see.  That makes a lot of sense.  Thank you for giving me a logical answer and for providing examples. :D
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Petrie. on June 08, 2007, 06:37:24 AM
Maybe the songs were presented immediately to shower in a new dawn of LBT film and show kids that there will be songs to sing along with.  Complete with a tumbling rock across the words as they're being sung. :rolleyes:

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Didn't bother me at all.  I was 10 when it was released and my sister watched it with me.  We grew up with a lot of Disney so singing animals wasn't too strange for us.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: trexmaster on June 08, 2007, 09:49:18 AM
I hate almost all the songs on LBT. They're generic kiddy-show junk and they add nothing to the story. I hope they cut them out.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: DarkHououmon on June 08, 2007, 10:28:37 AM
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I hate almost all the songs on LBT. They're generic kiddy-show junk and they add nothing to the story. I hope they cut them out.

I hate the songs as well and have been wanting them to cut the songs out since LBT6 or LBT7. No offense to those who like the songs though.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Littlefoot1616 on June 08, 2007, 11:45:11 AM
Maybe the whole idea of sing-a-longs was to make it seem that little more appealing to the younger audiences. Admitingly a lot of them seem very superfluous and pointless to the plot flow but it does help to break up the film a bit. Don't forget that kid's have a much short attention span than adults so something a little different from the norm will help keep interest. Also, adults seem to be compelled to see a movie out to the end and pass their judgement afterwards (unless they honestly dispised it to the degree that they'd leave part way through it). For a child, as soon as the next interesting thing comes along then they're off and they've completely forgotten about watching a film (this is coming from an uncle of a hyperactive 3-year old nephew  :^.^: ) If kids aren't constantly engaged with what they're doing, they'll break off and look for something else. I think, by including these sing-alongs, kids are offered the chance to engage in a little change of pace and perhaps even join in themselves. It kept them locked to it.

I think Malte got a response to an email he sent regarding the additional length of the original LBT that was sliced from the final cut. I think the reason was that Lucas and Spielberg felt that the overall length of the film was too much for kids of the targeted age to sit still and remain interested (please correct me if I'm wrong here Malte). Hence, the reduced +/-60mins LBT movie rather than Bluth's initially intended length.

Admittingly, as much as some of the songs are cute and nicely produced (in my opinion), they are a bit needless. I doubt the saga would be dealt a serious blow if the songs were to be dropped but it has now become somewhat "mainstream" so therefore, we can expected more of them from both the upcoming LBT 13 and future episodes of the TV Series.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Lain_EX on June 08, 2007, 12:31:35 PM
Personally, that doesn't bother me. Matter fact, the songs are great and that's good enough for me.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: landbeforetimelover on June 08, 2007, 05:28:53 PM
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Personally, that doesn't bother me. Matter fact, the songs are great and that's good enough for me.

I agree with you completely.  I love the songs.  I was just wondering why they chose to start a sequal with a song.  It was pretty lame but I can see the logic in it now.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: KingdomKey23 on June 08, 2007, 05:37:29 PM
I'm not too big on the songs either. A few were notable, but the rest were bad. Hehehe, and the worst of the worst would have to be Opps-eeps from the series. (shutters)
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: f-22 "raptor" ace on June 08, 2007, 05:38:44 PM
Ya I would agree.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Petrie. on June 08, 2007, 06:20:59 PM
I actually took the plunge and listened to that....monstrosity.  <_<  I could see why its not a fan favorite.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Flathead770 on June 08, 2007, 06:24:38 PM
i like most of the songs in the series except for a select few, like oops-eeps like kingdomkey23 stated. I'm also getting tired of hearing "I feel so happy" so many times as well. Other then those, i think i like all the others.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: KingdomKey23 on June 08, 2007, 06:33:46 PM
Man, "I feel so happy" has become so repetitive, it wouldn't hurt to cone up with something else. (Thinks about how the series created Oops-epps) On second thought, maybe they're better off with I feel so happy. XD
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Malte279 on June 08, 2007, 07:56:24 PM
I haven't heard all of the series songs and therefore can't say much about them. So far I have been willing to accept the poor songs so long there are good ones as well. I wouldn't want to miss "No one has to be alone", "Always there", "And bestest Friends" even if it means taking "Who needs you", "Me and my Dad", or "The lesson" into account.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: TheNumberOneShmuck on June 09, 2007, 07:00:25 AM
For me, the songs range from utter crap(Oops-Eeps), to decent(Chanson D'Ennui), to just awesome(Big Water), and even fun(I always air banjo with an idiot grin on my face during Legend of the Lone Dinosaur). I guess I wouldn't care too much either way, but if I had to pick, I'd keep the songs(with a rule: "If it ain't broke, don't mess with it." See: Adventuring), because I find that, as long as the crap is kept to a minimum, as it currently is, it's worth enduring to find the gems.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: NewOrder on June 15, 2007, 06:57:47 PM
Are you guys kidding? When I first saw lbt 2 I loved the song, it's one of the best they've made. Since I watched lbt 3 and 4 before watching 2, maybe it wasn't such a surprise.
As for the songs in the series, I first liked the "I feel so happy" one,but know I'm tired of it. They shouldn't repeat the songs so much, and the way they adapt the lyrics just ruins it for me, the series don't need songs, and if they did they could make up new songs with the same lyrics like the ones in the sequels.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Tails_155 on June 15, 2007, 08:13:40 PM
while not a necessity, it seems like many sequels to cartoons are musicals, the 2 I can think of off the top of my head are the LBT (of course) and Fox and the Hound, which I liked both, however many people are just as bothered as I was thrilled by a sequel, music or not
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 23, 2012, 07:41:46 PM
Obviously they to warn fans of the original that this is a musical, and if they don't like it that they shoud turn the TV off. It was also probably put in so early so that fans of the first film wouldn't get too attached before the singing began.
Title: Why did they do this?
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 28, 2012, 10:08:35 PM
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To describe the importance of the Great Valley and imply a reference to the events of the first movie the song was quite suitable. The importance of the Great Valley had to be underlined at the beginning of the movie to lay out the stage. It could have been done by a dialogue, but I don't think a dialogue would have gotten the message across as well as a song:

Littlefoot: "This Valley is awesome!"
Ducky: "Yep, yep, yep, it is!"
Petrie: "Me no have worries about being hungry anymore!"
Ducky: "Nope, nope, nope, neither have I!"
Cera: "It was so hard to get here! Now we're safe! Safe at last!"
Ducky: "Yep, yep, yep, we are!"

Very cute. I like the song though, too.

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Maybe the whole idea of sing-a-longs was to make it seem that little more appealing to the younger audiences. Admitingly a lot of them seem very superfluous and pointless to the plot flow but it does help to break up the film a bit. Don't forget that kid's have a much short attention span than adults so something a little different from the norm will help keep interest. Also, adults seem to be compelled to see a movie out to the end and pass their judgement afterwards (unless they honestly dispised it to the degree that they'd leave part way through it). For a child, as soon as the next interesting thing comes along then they're off and they've completely forgotten about watching a film (this is coming from an uncle of a hyperactive 3-year old nephew  ) If kids aren't constantly engaged with what they're doing, they'll break off and look for something else. I think, by including these sing-alongs, kids are offered the chance to engage in a little change of pace and perhaps even join in themselves. It kept them locked to it.

I think Malte got a response to an email he sent regarding the additional length of the original LBT that was sliced from the final cut. I think the reason was that Lucas and Spielberg felt that the overall length of the film was too much for kids of the targeted age to sit still and remain interested (please correct me if I'm wrong here Malte). Hence, the reduced +/-60mins LBT movie rather than Bluth's initially intended length.

I dream of someday seeing Bluth's initially intended length...it sounds amazing. Like---the best film ever made. The original LBT would probably be my favorite film ever if it hadn't been so badly chopped.

Plus, pixar films are an hour and a half and have no songs!


 I would sit through a four-hour cut of the original LBT if it existed.  ;)

But the sequels? They're direct to video. They can just leave and finish watching it later when they get interested again. The songs are unneeded. They take up like 10 mintues of these already too sho