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The Land Before Time => Land Before Time TV Series (2007) => Episode Discussion => Topic started by: Ryuukokoro on January 20, 2007, 06:20:53 PM
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Warning: SPOILERS!! Okay, you have been warned. Haha.
I can't wait for repeats (eek, how can I SAY that!?) but at least we'll be able to see the first two eps.
Thanks again for streaming these for us and making them available for download. *hugs!*
YAY we get to see Cera's baby half-sister! She is cute, even though I think she's a little TOO chubby. LOL. But that's okay, she's an infant. She doesn't even talk like Dina and Dana did, she just gurbles like human infants do. LOL.
Holy mike, I think Tria has an obsessed with shiny stones. Did you see her pile? LOL. I don't know if they one focused on in the series was a dimond or not. I'd be more willing to say it was a crystal or a quartz (then again...did the animators even bother to make it look like a real life stone??)
Petri... you're so cute. Hee hee.
I can tell even more in this episode than in the last one that the animation is lacking. However, that is very much the norm for cartoons series compared to movies. If you check out just about every movie-turned-cartoon, you will see the same.
The little songs continue to amuse me! :lol
That's all for me! What did you guys think?
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Oh, and it seems in this series we have discovered how Chomper survives in the Great Valley. He mentions he eats 'fuzzy crawlers and buzzy flyers' (So....caterpillars and bees? What a wonderful menu...) :huh:
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I can tell even more in this episode than in the last one that the animation is lacking.
As much as I agree about the poor animation in these shows, I thought the 4th episode was far superior to the 3rd one. None of the characters ever had that strange, blocky look to their face. It was like a breath of fresh air.
But anyway...
I thought Petrie's whole idea about the mountain getting angry was kind of funny. You could tell the whole gang thought he was crazy LOL :lol
And how did Cera manage to balance that stone on her horn for so long?
All in all, it was a good one! Thanks for taking the time to record these episodes just for our viewing pleasure Action! :DD Can't wait for the next one :^.^:
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And how did Cera manage to balance that stone on her horn for so long?
LOL. I kept expecting her to pick it up with her mouth. Did the animators not think of this? Or are they trying to make the dinos more 'human' by not having them carry things in their mouths? Hmm...
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At a lot of points in this episode I thought Cera's face looked deformed. Too flat or chubby and her eyes too small or whatever, but the animators don't have a lot of time to spend on the animation. They're producing another episode every week. Err, I don't know the mechanics of making an animated series on TV, but animation in general is hard, time-consuming work. I still quite like the music, but I wish they would be more creative with the names ('Canyon of Shiny Stones'? That's like naming something 'Place Where the Trees Grow High and Needley.' Maybe it's just me, but I don't like obvious literal things that often)
There were quite a lot of funny moments (then again I'm easy to humor) and I found myself chuckling and grinning a lot.
Favorite quote (so far, I'm typing this as I watch):
"I do not understand. What is so bad about Smoking Mountain?" - Ducky
"It have BIG black smoke that make sky all dark and spookily! And sometimes it get all shaky!...Like Cera when she mad." - Petrie
Petrie had a LOT of funny expressions in this episode. I wish they would stop using such obvious CGI, though - it got on my nerves after a while. Um, it was amusing that Petrie thought he made the mountain mad. I mean, I've heard that before, but in here...I don't know, it was just funnier. As I was watching the little evading-flying lava rocks-and-call-out-to-Petrie sequence, I couldn't stop thinking that that could manifest itself into an online game of some sort. This doesn't really relate, but in the last episode, I noticed how Chomper continually sniffed to find his way around. I thought that was great, because T. Rexes are supposed to have the best sense of smell out of anything except for the turkey vulture.
Ahem. Back to the current episode. I thought the songs were a little pointless this time around. While they were catchy in their own right, to me it seemed like they were just there to be, well, there. I notice that Cera's horn seemed to be more developed now (taller, in any case). I was wondering why Cera didn't carry that stone in her mouth. I mean, it looked sturdy enough, lying there between her horn and her face, but...it would have been much more secure in her mouth. Guess she wanted to explain herself.
Ooo, the lava! Whatcha gunna do now, kids!? I can see that being another minigame on some LBT CD-rom or something. Ah, the conveniently placed (fallen) tree...it returns. Did that remind anyone else of LBT 2?
Amusing quote:
Ruby's "oh dear..."
No kidding. You're two feet away from advancing lava. Heh, that made me laugh for some reason.
In that backshot of Ducky on the line "oh, no more shiny stones..." her head looks really huge. Distorted perspective or animator mishap, you decide. Wow. That was some sweet moves Petrie pulled off when he realized he didn't made the mountain mad. Wooo, go Petrie!
New funny quote:
"It's just been so quiet lately. I hope the kids aren't getting bored." - Petrie's mom
"MOOOOMMMMYYYYY!!!111" - Petrie
Chomper's "I hate to say it, but I'm hungry" line made me laugh, especially Ducky's response to it. Jee, these episodes certainly know how to make a ADD kid laugh! When Petrie's mom picked up Ducky and Chomper by their tails, I was a bit surprised for some reason. Don't know why. There seemed to be a bit of a time-lapse when Littlefoot's grandparents come to the rescue and they let the kids off their heads...hmm. Heh. Poor Cera. Losing the second stone. Oh, about the time-lapse thing...apparently practically all the parents came. I thought that was kinda random and unnecessary. At the ending scene, Littlefoot's grandparent's bodies look really flat and distorted. Oh, and by the way, we already knew Chomper ate bees - the animation is in the credits.
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Lol, everytime she looked at the stone I thought the same thing. However if she had hold it in her mouth she wouldn't have lost it =p
Cera's half sister had already appeared in LBT 12, so it's not something new... I just wonder what happened to Guido, he sort of bonded with the gang and there are no indications of him leaving the valley. Since Tricia is there, this puts the series in a time-line after LBT 12.
As for the episode, I prefered no3, and in this one the characters change their aspect too much, from normal, to chubby in a smal sequence. Only Petrie, Spike, Ruby and Chomper stay the same, the other three are always changing their looks. I particulary didn't like the sequence where they show only one of Littlefoot's eyes, when his head is turned in a way you could naturally see both eyes.
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At a lot of points in this episode I thought Cera's face looked deformed. Too flat or chubby and her eyes too small or whatever
Yea, I noticed this too, but it's still far less worse than the 3rd one. Littlefoot and Cera looked so weird near the end of the 3rd episode, it was just a joke.
I agree with everything you said Ratiasu :lol From Ruby's funny obvious quote, to the convenient log that just happened to be sitting there! :lol: I wondered too why Cera didn't carry the stone in her mouth.
And I also noticed how weird Littlefoot's grandparents' bodies looked at the end. Too flat :p
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Cera's half sister had already appeared in LBT 12, so it's not something new... I just wonder what happened to Guido, he sort of bonded with the gang and there are no indications of him leaving the valley.
For us here in America the movie isn't out yet, so this is our first sight of Trisha. :^.^:
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Oh, and by the way, we already knew Chomper ate bees - the animation is in the credits.
That's true, but we didn't know about the 'fuzzy crawlers'
Come to think of it, isn't that what they called the cute little rodent in Journey to the Mists? Didn't they make friends with it? I think this would be the first time we see that it's acceptable for Chomper to eat something that they might consider a friend. :blink:
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Okay, no way are those crystals diamonds. At best, its something akin to quartz, and nothing of high-grade. It was interesting to see Tricia (Tria's daughter) in this one; this absolutely confirms that this takes place after the 12th movie. It also appears that Tria's collection, while still her's, is set up almost as some sot of public display, as it is out in the open, and not hidden in a cave or a cluster of trees, and anyone could conceivably see it. The details are a little sketchy, i'll admit. The animation was nothing special, but hardly as terrible as some other forum members make it out to be. The moral is obvious and predictable; I guessed it from the very moment I saw the words "shiny stone"; that people are more valuable than any minerals, no matter how shiny. This is also one of the few times where the parents/grandparents actually come to save the children, and cut across species lines to do it. It's also the first time i've seen Petrie actually fly away to get help and leave the others (temporarily.)
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A thing I might point out is that the adaults also seem to be aware of and accept that Chomper lives among them and hangs out with their kids. And like everyone else, I really want to know how Chomper came to be with them in the valley in the first place.
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To know that we'd have to see the first episode. Anyway, most of Tria's minerals weren't too valuable; I personally have a bit of a mineral collection which has far more variety (and a piece of sulphur.) Of all the episodes described thus far, this one appears to be most like a typical disney cartoon episode. Still, typical plots are hard to come by for a series which has no technology, no items with moving parts, no clothing, no money, little government, no magic (this point is disputable in movies I, VII, and possibly X), and few possessions.
To date, possesions/important items have included:
- The treestar Littlefoot's mother gave him (movie I, ends up being crushed.)
- The medicinal night flowers (movie IV, eaten by Littlefoot's grandfather.)
- The stone of cold fire (movie VII, destroyed in volcanic activity.)
- Food which was specifically given to Ducky by her mother (movie VII, eaten by Spike)
- The "treesweets" (movie XI, eaten by tinysauruses despite promise for Tria to get first one; later shared by all when it next blossomed.)
- Tria's mineral collection with blue quartz centerpiece (episode IV, centerpiece lost by Cera in water, replacement found but dropped in lava.)
Also, a predator's tooth plays a part in movie VI, and episode II. Keep in mind this list may be incomplete, especially if eggs are counted as important items (seen in movies I, II, VI, IX, XII, and in a flashback in episode III.)
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A thing I might point out is that the adaults also seem to be aware of and accept that Chomper lives among them and hangs out with their kids. And like everyone else, I really want to know how Chomper came to be with them in the valley in the first place.
I also found that weird. I thought Littlefoot and the others were going to tell Chomper to hide, but they didn't. In the movies the grownups never met Chomper, I believe we have to wait for episodes 1 and 2 to sort things out.
I think you guys are taking this possesion thing way too serious. Never in the episode it indicated that Tria owned those stones, she was just pileing them, even when Cera asks about the shiny stone Tria just says she founded it lying around. Maybe she found those stones cute and decided to build a pile of them.
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Quite true New Order, there was indeed no indication whatsoever that she actually owned them. However, it is definate that Cera thought so.
Ah, the return of Cera's half-sister, Tricia. You know, I too wonder what happened to Guido. Maybe we'll get a later episode explanation of some kind. Better be a good one. :)
I found quite a number of quotes funny myself. Is it just me, or are the writers planning to win over kid audiences with humor? Not that there's anything bad about that. :lol:
I too wonder why Cera didn't carry the stone in her mouth. It would've indeed been easier. -_-
Now, from my perspective, I have seen many animated diamonds myself. From my studies of the cartoon shows I've seen them in, I have come to the conclusion that they are more difficult to draw than most people think. I especially saw such a problem with The Batman when Mr. Freeze talked about his past life before he became the villian we know and hate.
The main problem is drawing it with just the right amount of beauty to show it being a daimond, rather than a quartz or an emerald. Let's just cut the animators some slack here. They aren't easy to draw, and my studies prove that. :P:
Geez! I'm going to be expecting great things when the first episode arrives. There is indeed a ton of explaning to do. :)
The songs indeed just seemed to be there. It made it lose their shine. Though I guess we can cut the song writers a little slack. I mean, they're creating 26 eps here. Most of which I'm expecting to have at least one song in. You try coming up with 20+ songs in one year.
In all, this was a good episode. One I will indeed enjoy for a while.
I'll be giving the new songs to Action9000 later today. So Action9000, if you're looking at this, keep an eye on your Inbox. :)
Well, I'll see ya later. :^.^:
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A thing I might point out is that the adaults also seem to be aware of and accept that Chomper lives among them and hangs out with their kids. And like everyone else, I really want to know how Chomper came to be with them in the valley in the first place.
I also found that weird. I thought Littlefoot and the others were going to tell Chomper to hide, but they didn't. In the movies the grownups never met Chomper, I believe we have to wait for episodes 1 and 2 to sort things out.
I think you guys are taking this possesion thing way too serious. Never in the episode it indicated that Tria owned those stones, she was just pileing them, even when Cera asks about the shiny stone Tria just says she founded it lying around. Maybe she found those stones cute and decided to build a pile of them.
NewOrder is right; there isn't much indication that she owned the minerals, and she doesn't seem to care too much when the centerpiece is lost.
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Well I've just given the songs to Action9000. I'm not sure when he'll have those up on his site, but I hope soon.
For my comment on them. I thought in general that "Oops-epse" was one of the funniest LBT songs I ever heard. Kinda silly, but it teaches young kids something good.
As for "Good Times, Good Friends", I thought that could've been better with slightly different lyrics. Maybe even more meaniful. Other than that, it was a good one. :^.^:
Oh, and NewOrder, could you mind telling me just where Chomper would hide in his situation? I mean, he was stuck between the side of a cliff and a lake of lava.
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Hey all,
I'll get the lyrics up on the site as soon as possible but I'm just getting so bogged down with things to do right now....
I have the lyrics you sent me and they'll be up soon. I'll let you all know when the lyrics are up on the site! B)
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Lol, he could run away before the grown ups saw him, he's quite small and doesn't look like a T-Rex from a far.
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Well, what do they think Chomper could be? The two-legged profile, tiny arms, and large head sort of give him away. I'm sure the adults know that Chomper is a predator; we just missed the first two episodes in which he would be accepted into the valley (at least until he grows too big to survive on insects and other non-dinosaurs.)
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until he grows too big to survive on insects and other non-dinosaurs
I really doubt that'll happen. None of the gang, or anyone else, have grown at all (if they have I've missed it. I think Ducky is a bit bigger in the TV series, but that's it). But that would be interesting if that happened. I'm sort of surprised that Littlefoot's grandparents haven't died yet. They were old in the original movie, and now they're really old, and they go through things like famines and fires and blizzards...
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It's believed that great sauropods could live for more than 100 years, taking in consideration that none of the gang have grown an inch since the original film, you could think not such a long time has passed.
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Well, Chomper is noticably larger than in movie II, maybe even larger than in movie V. I would like to point out that we don't know how much time passes between the movies or tv episodes. In some cases, it could be only a few weeks, or in the case of the tv series, days. It's possible that only a few years have elapsed since the first movie. As it is, the gang of... seven... seems to be significantly larger in the tv series than it appeared in the second movie (except for Ruby, who isn't even in the movies at all; maybe she will appear in movie XIII; in fact, i'd expect her to appear in it.)At the very least, we can agree that during the first movie, all of the characters (save Spike) grow significantly.
P.S.: An example of (possible) growth can be seen by comparing movies III and X. In movie III, in the scene where the valley caught on fire, one can see the size of the Littlefoot and his friends next to his grandfather. In this scene, they look like a mouse next to a human; if even that. Now, in the tenth movie, the size difference between Littlefoot and his father (Bron), isn't as big; it's like comparing a kitten to a human, rather than a mouse. Keep in mind that Bron must be at least as large as Littlefoot's grandfather, if not larger. I think that someone else on this board mentioned that the difference in size appears if one compares movie II to XI.
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Well, Chomper is noticably larger than in movie II, maybe even larger than in movie V. I would like to point out that we don't know how much time passes between the movies or tv episodes. In some cases, it could be only a few weeks, or in the case of the tv series, days. It's possible that only a few years have elapsed since the first movie. As it is, the gang of... seven... seems to be significantly larger in the tv series than it appeared in the second movie (except for Ruby, who isn't even in the movies at all; maybe she will appear in movie XIII; in fact, i'd expect her to appear in it.)At the very least, we can agree that during the first movie, all of the characters (save Spike) grow significantly.
P.S.: An example of (possible) growth can be seen by comparing movies III and X. In movie III, in the scene where the valley caught on fire, one can see the size of the Littlefoot and his friends next to his grandfather. In this scene, they look like a mouse next to a human; if even that. Now, in the tenth movie, the size difference between Littlefoot and his father (Bron), isn't as big; it's like comparing a kitten to a human, rather than a mouse. Keep in mind that Bron must be at least as large as Littlefoot's grandfather, if not larger. I think that someone else on this board mentioned that the difference in size appears if one compares movie II to XI.
I definately recall me saying something like that. :)
If you just compare the two, you end up seeing quite the difference. I believe that as the sequals progressed, the animators only slightly changed the hieght with each on coming sequal. The growth just snuck up on us. :)
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Thank you for having said that. I thought I was alone in suggesting that the characters grew over time, and that nobody actually said what I said you said.
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I think another example of how the characters have grown during the series is Tricia. She is a current example of how big a "newborn" is.
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Tricia is still very young. She was probably put into the series for the practical effect of having a small, cute, baby dinosaur around in order to conjure up memories of the first movie, as well as give Cera a half-sister. Anyway, we haven't really seen Tricia grow by any apprceable amount yet, and she still is mostly unable to speak; if i'm not mistaken, she only said one word in the 12th movie: "Cera", and she doesn't speak in the fourth TV episode. And... that's it for Tricia. Not much to say.
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At long last I finally got around to watch the episode. There is not much left to say for me, as basically I agree with what has been said already. I'm especially pleased to agree with this one:
All in all, it was a good one!
I did notice the shortcommings in the animation too though. They were kind of annoying in the third episode and regretably they showed quite distinctly throughout episode number 4 as well. I must also agree that Cera's half sister (I didn't see her in LBT 12 yet) looked somewhat too chubby.
For us here in America the movie isn't out yet, so this is our first sight of Trisha. :^.^:
For you in America (or me in Germany) Episode 4 isn't officially out yet either, so we can't blame anyone else for mixing up the sequence :P:
As for the animation, I'm willing to accept shortcomings in the animation rather than in the plots and the plot of episode 4 was good enough as far as I'm concerned.
One realizes that the makers of this episode's plot did think about the characters. Funnily enough it is often elements which some might consider negligible which I really like. Petrie's superstition about the burning mountain was quite funny and so was Ducky's rebuking of Chomper not to look at her when saying that he is hungry (They didn't forget his being a sharptooth after all :D).
Altogether a very good job about the dialogues :yes
Ducky's and Petrie's comparing Cera to the burning mountain and the looks he gave them for it were just great.
[...] but I wish they would be more creative with the names ('Canyon of Shiny Stones'? That's like naming something 'Place Where the Trees Grow High and Needley.' Maybe it's just me, but I don't like obvious literal things that often)
Yes and no. On the one hand I see where you are coming from with your argument that overly descriptive names may sound kind of childish, but then again I wouldn't consider "Canyon of Shiny Stones" overly descriptive. The vocabulary of the dinosaurs is more limited than our own. Shiny Stones seems to be more proper than if they came up with precise terms such as "Quartz" or "Diamonds" (I don't expect it would make a difference to a dinosaur so long it looks nice and shiny) or whatever, for this would presuppose a certain awarenss of mineralogy and I don't see how the dinosaurs should aquire this. I suppose that shape, color, or special features of something (e.g. shiny) are the major points for dinosaurs to come up with a name for something.
How would you have them call the Canyon of the Shiny Stones Ratiasu?
Comparing it to 'Place Where the Trees Grow High and Needley.' may be somewhat exaggerated, as that example is artificially drawn out while Canyon of the Shiny Stones is not. A more likely LBT term for 'Place Where the Trees Grow High and Needley.' would be "The high needle trees" (the dinosaurs know that it must be some place and also that trees usually tend to grow, so why would they mention it?).
Ooo, the lava! Whatcha gunna do now, kids!? I can see that being another minigame on some LBT CD-rom or something. Ah, the conveniently placed (fallen) tree...it returns. Did that remind anyone else of LBT 2?
Or of LBT 5 and 6, only that they were running from a sharptooth rather than from Lava in that case. Trees often come in handy :lol:
None of us would have wanted to see the characters being fried for lack of a tree and a ledge though. Perhaps they could have made it a bit more "dramatic" and actually let the characters show some real fear. Also it wouldn't just be "hot" (as Ruby called it) that close to a stream of lava. It would be burning hot. With the younger target audience in mind I suppose they are carefull not to make it too "scary". Oh well :rolleyes:
I also found that weird. I thought Littlefoot and the others were going to tell Chomper to hide, but they didn't. In the movies the grownups never met Chomper, I believe we have to wait for episodes 1 and 2 to sort things out.
I don't suppose there is any way they could hide Chomper in the long run and at the same time play with him regularly. It didn't work out with the Tinysaurs, and I don't suppose Chomper would be happy having to stay in a cave all the time. Come to think of it, it might make for an interesting story to have Littlefoot and the others try to hide Chomper; an attempt doomed to fail. A story in which Chomper is finally discovered but for some reason or the sheer perception that he is not a thread yet (and might not become one if he grows up valuing the Great Valley inhabitants as friends so he would ultimately leave rather than attack any one of them) is tolerated by the grownups. I think there could be some real emotion in such a story.
Well, Chomper is noticably larger than in movie II, maybe even larger than in movie V.
Is he really? He was bigger than Ducky and Petrie from the moment he hatched. I don't really think he has really grown very much, between LBT 2 and 5 (whatever else he may have claimed in LBT 5) there doesn't seem to be much of a difference about his size in the TV episodes if compared to the movies either. They seem to be kind of inconstand about the size of characters in general. In LBT 3 we have scenes in which Ducky is about as tall as Littlefoot's knees (and thereby considerably larger than Littlefoot's head) while during the song Kids like us She and Petrie both fit comfortably on Littlefoot's head. This is just one out of many other examples.
It seems though that dinosaurs grow very quickly in the first time after they hatch. Tricia is considerably larger than Cera was when she hatched in the original movie. Spike is perhaps the best example of quick growing. I think he more than trippled his size in the first seconds of his life. What do I say, he must have grown more than five times the size of his egg within moments (much more even).
I too wonder why Cera didn't carry the stone in her mouth. It would've indeed been easier.
I guess that's what everyone must have though. It was the first thing that came to my mind too when she was balancing that stone behind her horn. But if she had put it in her mouth, there would have been nothing to worry about for the audience, and perhaps the makers of the movies want the audience to feel with the characters (which I think is a good thing).
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Oh, and by the way, we already knew Chomper ate bees - the animation is in the credits.
That's true, but we didn't know about the 'fuzzy crawlers'
Come to think of it, isn't that what they called the cute little rodent in Journey to the Mists? Didn't they make friends with it? I think this would be the first time we see that it's acceptable for Chomper to eat something that they might consider a friend. :blink:
I dont remember if they gave it a species name. I just remember ducky saying fuzzy ticklies and calling him tickles.
What im more intrested in is how they will or may deal with chomper as he is older? If they decide to age out the chars in a future wrp up film i think they should show chomper as turng toward fish or varioud seeds. Remember meat eaters eat meat for protein. This same protien can be had from various seeds. Peanut butter was used by a african doctor to act as a protein substitue for aboriginal people who could no longer chew normal food. It would not be much of a stretch for a meat eating dino to b able to survive doing somethign along the same lines. Fish are another option. In the first ep i seen here i beleive cave of many voices where chompers cave sprung a leak. It clearly shows ruby eating a clam or clam like creture. We also know the the orignal chars are not to fond of under water creture and infact fear them. Most fish back then would have been preditory in nature them selfs meanign they are sharp teeth swimers to the dino kids.
So it would be plausable to have chomper eating fish and seeds as his diet.
Something i picked up on in the mysterious island is the fact that the island where chomper lives is full of sharp teeth. And they are dangerous to him and his parents. My guess is these sharp teeth are killing and eating each other. This would be a reason that explains why chomper was sent away. It got to dangerous for him. Elsie from the mysterious island likely took chomper off the island to live with ruby and her folks. At some point it became to dangerous do to redclaw and his crew for them in the mysterious beyond. In fact maybe redclaw was also on the island and was knocked in to the ocean. Possibly chompers own parent attacked him and thought him dead. This could be what made them decide to send chomper some where safer for him. But some time during the time he left the island and went to the vally redclaw showed up.
Oh and just incase any one was trying to figure out what the stinky flowers really are from the mysterious island. They are corpse flowers. They smell like rotten meat when fully grown the "bloom" is between 4 and 6 feet tall.
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I think that Chomper might be able to survive on fish when he is a little older (human sized and still growing), but there's no way a 6-ton predator could survive on seeds when fully grown. I'm sure he would have to leave the valley, this time for good. But yes, the fish idea would work if the series advances the time to a few years in the future, provided that fish can be found in suffcient quantities. Also, eating moderate sized lizards would work as well.
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I think that Chomper might be able to survive on fish when he is a little older (human sized and still growing), but there's no way a 6-ton predator could survive on seeds when fully grown. I'm sure he would have to leave the valley, this time for good. But yes, the fish idea would work if the series advances the time to a few years in the future, provided that fish can be found in suffcient quantities. Also, eating moderate sized lizards would work as well.
You forget though that many prehistoric fish were quite huge. Some could hit close to 500 pounds going on muscle density of current fish. So if a fish was say 6 foot long it could easly reach 300 to 400 pounds in weight. Thats a pretty hearty meal. What does a killer whale eat per day in pounds somethign around half a ton i beleive? And if you go by the warm blooded dino ideas then this would be about what a preditor like trex would need per day. If you buy in to the cold blooded dino ideas then the ammount of food needed is even less. Plant eaters are the real heavy weights when it comes to food consumption. So a single kill by a rex could likely feed them for days or even weeks if not for scavengers.
Remember most carniverous dinos would have been scavengers as well as hunters much like the big cats of today.
Simply put one trex makes a kill eats his fill leaves alot laying there another trex comes by eats his fill and repeat a few more times for a large kill. Id say for a adult trex they would need about 400 to 1000 pounds of meat a day at most depending on activity level time of year etc. Given that during times when it would be colder they would need to build up fat stores they would eat more. When it was hot out they likely ate much less. Less calories burned up to generate body heat. Now with a trex if like todays preditory animals the time when they would need the most food is when they are say more than half grown say 75% Alot of calories would be used for their growth and for maintaining body heat etc. As a adult their needs for calories like every other living thing would go down.
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Oh and just incase any one was trying to figure out what the stinky flowers really are from the mysterious island. They are corpse flowers. They smell like rotten meat when fully grown the "bloom" is between 4 and 6 feet tall.
Omg I didn't even think of that! :slap I remember reading about those things, and I was actually fascinated in them because of how tall they grew, and how bad they smelled.
Gosh, I feel bad for those kids. That must have been awful! :x :lol
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Oh and just incase any one was trying to figure out what the stinky flowers really are from the mysterious island. They are corpse flowers. They smell like rotten meat when fully grown the "bloom" is between 4 and 6 feet tall.
Omg I didn't even think of that! :slap I remember reading about those things, and I was actually fascinated in them because of how tall they grew, and how bad they smelled.
Gosh, I feel bad for those kids. That must have been awful! :x :lol
They had one at the cleveland zoos rainforest. Lets just say after gettign a with i made sure to give it a wide wide birth. Stinky is not the word for it. Know the old term gag a magot well if you could gag one the corpse flower would most assuradly gag it...
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What im more intrested in is how they will or may deal with chomper as he is older? If they decide to age out the chars in a future wrp up film i think they should show chomper as turng toward fish or varioud seeds.
That would be the way they "solved the problem" in Madagascar. Sometimes I wonder why in some movies or stories of this sort the eating of fish is presented as less problematic than the eating of any other living being. When they came up with that "fish eating solution" in Madagascar I suddenly had to think of finding Nemo :lol
Perhaps Littlefoot and the others would have to think of Mo if Chomper started eating fish. Then again, Mo too would be a fisheater.
Also, eating moderate sized lizards would work as well.
In which case the Tinysaurs from LBT 11 should better stay hidden :lol
I think we can take it for granted that they won't let the LBT characters grow up in the movie or go too much into details which might cause little kids to pester their parents with tricky questions about whether a particular fish had agreed to be eaten by Chomper. We are not going to be given any detailed answers on these matters from the producers, we have to figure it out ourselves.
Something i picked up on in the mysterious island is the fact that the island where chomper lives is full of sharp teeth. And they are dangerous to him and his parents.
But there is a scene in which Chomper mentions that he and his parents are the only sharpteeth around. He wasn't aware of the other sharptooth who had set foot on the island, but that one was washed away and it seems unlikely that very many sharpteeth would take the risk and effort to swim to the island after the destruction of the causeway. Shortage of food (Chomper mentioned there wasn't much to eat) seems a more plausible reason for Chomper and his parents to leave the island.
But how did they manage to get away? It doesn't seem very likely that Elzy could (or would) give a ride to two fully grown sharpteeth. Natural disasters could create a chance to leave the island again, whether by the creation of a new causeway, or a temporary retreat of water which often occurs before a Tsunami (which could have resulted in quite an unpleasant exodus for Chomper and his folks).
Oh and just incase any one was trying to figure out what the stinky flowers really are from the mysterious island. They are corpse flowers. They smell like rotten meat when fully grown the "bloom" is between 4 and 6 feet tall.
I'm not really sure, are there corpse flowers which look like the flowers we saw in the movie? I know little about flowers, and corpse flowers are certainly not in any of our plant pots, but I think those flowers usually get very big, while in the movie (comparing the flowers size to Petrie's) they seemed to be quite small. Moreover the smell of dead meat might not be considered repulsive by Chomper or any grownup sharpteeth. It might even be a dead sure way to lure sharpteeth to the place where the flowers grow (which is the basic idea of the flower. The smell is meant to attract insects). I don't know what kind of flowers are shown in LBT 5, but I doubt they are meant to be corpse flowers.
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What im more intrested in is how they will or may deal with chomper as he is older? If they decide to age out the chars in a future wrp up film i think they should show chomper as turng toward fish or varioud seeds.
That would be the way they "solved the problem" in Madagascar. Sometimes I wonder why in some movies or stories of this sort the eating of fish is presented as less problematic than the eating of any other living being. When they came up with that "fish eating solution" in Madagascar I suddenly had to think of finding Nemo :lol
Perhaps Littlefoot and the others would have to think of Mo if Chomper started eating fish. Then again, Mo too would be a fisheater.
Also, eating moderate sized lizards would work as well.
In which case the Tinysaurs from LBT 11 should better stay hidden :lol
I think we can take it for granted that they won't let the LBT characters grow up in the movie or go too much into details which might cause little kids to pester their parents with tricky questions about whether a particular fish had agreed to be eaten by Chomper. We are not going to be given any detailed answers on these matters from the producers, we have to figure it out ourselves.
Something i picked up on in the mysterious island is the fact that the island where chomper lives is full of sharp teeth. And they are dangerous to him and his parents.
But there is a scene in which Chomper mentions that he and his parents are the only sharpteeth around. He wasn't aware of the other sharptooth who had set foot on the island, but that one was washed away and it seems unlikely that very many sharpteeth would take the risk and effort to swim to the island after the destruction of the causeway. Shortage of food (Chomper mentioned there wasn't much to eat) seems a more plausible reason for Chomper and his parents to leave the island.
But how did they manage to get away? It doesn't seem very likely that Elzy could (or would) give a ride to two fully grown sharpteeth. Natural disasters could create a chance to leave the island again, whether by the creation of a new causeway, or a temporary retreat of water which often occurs before a Tsunami (which could have resulted in quite an unpleasant exodus for Chomper and his folks).
Oh and just incase any one was trying to figure out what the stinky flowers really are from the mysterious island. They are corpse flowers. They smell like rotten meat when fully grown the "bloom" is between 4 and 6 feet tall.
I'm not really sure, are there corpse flowers which look like the flowers we saw in the movie? I know little about flowers, and corpse flowers are certainly not in any of our plant pots, but I think those flowers usually get very big, while in the movie (comparing the flowers size to Petrie's) they seemed to be quite small. Moreover the smell of dead meat might not be considered repulsive by Chomper or any grownup sharpteeth. It might even be a dead sure way to lure sharpteeth to the place where the flowers grow (which is the basic idea of the flower. The smell is meant to attract insects). I don't know what kind of flowers are shown in LBT 5, but I doubt they are meant to be corpse flowers.
Well the shapes are right as is the way they are growing. Im sure the animators and artists had these as inspiration. Most true preditors wont eat bad meat. So it makes sense that sharp teeth would avoid these things for the most part. Or they tried eatign them once and then found out that they were not what they smelled to be. Also a field of such plants would be sensory overload. Hunting for a pred that uses its sense os smell would avoid this type of place and not try to hunt there.
Regardless time to stop the off topic. If i recall invision allows topics to be split up and moved to a new topic. This little sub topic does have soem value so maybe a nice move to its own topic for further replies?
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I love this episode. Especially "Oops Eeps ! I made a mistake !" i just wish they didn't then use the tune in 'Stranger From the Mysterious Above' for the song "My Way" <_<
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The Canyon of Shiny Stones is another episode I watched last year already and I wrote about it before, so I’ll try to skip what I have written already and focus on random thoughts not yet mentioned.
Cera’s reaction at Tria’s question about what she did with the Shiny stones is certainly very much in character. Rather than trying to explain anything, making up any excuses, or apologizing right away her first reaction is to attack. Though she regretted this very soon we may understand her reaction with “Ooops Eeeps” as the unpleasant alternative ;)
The German translation by the way made Tria appear a little harsher than the English original. While in the English version she asks “what happened to my pretty stone” the German transltation is more like “what did you do with my pretty stone”, pushing Cera in a more defensive position.
Interestingly Ruby was “counting treestars” rather than merely counting during the hide and seek game. I consider that an interesting idea and plausible too. Dinosaurs in the land before time, with all their similarities to us, probably wouldn’t think along the same lines as we do. I am not sure if they would understand numbers as a concept so long they don’t know what exactly they are counting. In spite of Ruby’s announcement “Ready or not here I come” she was leaving not ready Chomper quite some time to get ready or rather “being made ready” by Littlefoot. I love Ducky’s look in the scene when she feels she is about to be spotted by Ruby. Thinking of some of the scenes from other episodes I wonder how much sense it would made to play hide and seek with Chomper for a seeker. His sense of smell would most likely make it a rather short game. But Cera too made a remark about Spike’s smell in “The Meadow of Jumping Waters” (refering not just to his smell after he fell in the stinking mud in that episode) which makes it kind of strange that Ruby wouldn’t find Spike while she is standing right in front of the bush behind which he is hiding. During the hide and seek game they seem to be somewhat anthropomorphized relying on their eyes only rather than on their other senses as well. I imagine playing hide and seek may be a bit more complex for dinosaurs if for example they have to make sure to always be in a position from the seeker that ensures that the wind is blowing the scent of the hider away from the seeker. In this respect I also remember one of the final scenes of LBT 2 in which we saw Ducky seeking the others while she was blindfolded with a leaf. Perhaps they developed ways of disabeling the sense of smell as well in order to make the game more difficult for the seeker?
It struck me as kind of strange that neither Ruby, nor anyone else seemed to have noticed Cera’s absence at the beginning of the game. It’s not like Cera is so inconspicuous a character as to make her absence something to be easily missed, is it?
Chomper seemed to be a bit absent minded in suggesting to bring fuzzy crawlers or buzzy flyers to Tria as an apology. What would she do with those? Apparently Chomper was thinking more with his stomach at that moment.
By the way, these things are not meant to be harsh criticism of the sequel. If all the sayings or actions of the characters would be well thought through and perfectly reasonable I suppose this would shorten the episodes and sometimes make them more boring with much less dialogue, so these are more like random points.
I wonder if Cera and the others have been in the Canyon of Shiny stones before. They all seemed to be well aware of where it is, but still they were very impressed when at last they arrived there. I suppose a place like that Canyon will stay fascinating and impressive even if you are not seeing it for the first time.
One thing I realized is that they were very ready to accept Petrie’s not going to the smoking mountain, while in “The mysterious Tooth Crisis” they (Littlefoot and Chomper) were not as ready to accept Ducky’s going to a place where she wanted to go.
There was another lyricless melody in the scene when they were heading for the smoking mountain. Short though as those melodies are I still think they are not uninteresting.
Same as the counting of treestars there are two other scenes which I think may allow for some guesses about the ways LBT dinosaurs think (though these guesses are not really new ideas but have been suggested elsewhere already). One of these thinks is that they think of the smoking mountain as if they were thinking of it as a living being with thoughts and moods. In the end they conclude that it is probably “just a mountain” after all. But they don’t seem to be absolutely sure. I don’t suppose these thoughts about the mountain are just “kid’s thoughts” but might be shared by the grownups as well.
The other thing is that the dinosaurs don’t strive for posessions the way humans do (something that I think has been suggested in a couple of fanfictions). Tria’s “owning” the shiny stone might suggest differently, but she just liked the look of it and presented it in a way (along with the other shiny stuff) so everyone could see it, rather than hiding it somewhere for fear of thieves (what most humans would do). Also, with the Canyon of the Shiny Stone being a well known location it would cease to exist within a few days if the dinosaur’s thoughts on “owning” and “posessing” were the same as human’s thinking about the terms. They would just plunder it if they were thinking the way humans do. Maybe Tria’s pile of shining stuff is kind of like “art” rather than “posession” (Maybe I just got an idea for the draft of the next fanart award ;)).
I like the way they showed the peril in this episode as such. Unlike some of the later sequels where the moment there is any danger the seen the dramatic moment will be defused by some sharptooth slapstick or the like on behalf of the younger audience. Not so in this episode. Ducky seemed to be in very immediate danger and Petrie’s first rescue attempt had failed. I do think that dramatic moments like this are a very good thing to keep the stories more exciting than some of the “too harmless” stories.
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I enjoyed this episode. It does seem to be one of the better written ones. Also nice to have some danger and have it not be one the ultimately slapstick type. That can be funny, but it can be overdone also. I also liked how the kids had to have the grown ups rescue them instead of rescuing themselves. A nice touch and something that was nice to see sometimes.
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Is this the episode where Ducky gets too greedy and keeps all the shiny stones for herself? If so, it would contradict the false notion that she is just a goodie twoshoes. YEPYEP!
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That is the episode: Search for the Sky Color Stones, where Ducky does that. & it shows a side of Ducky that I think wasn't shown before.
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I also liked how the kids had to have the grown ups rescue them instead of rescuing themselves.
That ended up being the part of this episode that I found to be the most unrealistic. Do you guys remember the grownups reactions when they saw that their kids had snuck away into a dangerous place and almost didn't make it back alive? Littlefoot's grandparents, who helped all the characters get out, except Chomper and Ducky, were actually smiling at the kids and made very casual comments like, "Time to go for a ride," as they got on his head and he got them out. The grownups didn't look angry, worried, or scared about the kids' near death experience at all. It was like molten lava was just no big deal, even though it would end any dinosaur's life that fell into it. Seriously, watch the rescue at the end. Do see any emotion from the grownups towards their kids at all? I know Tria shows gratitude that Cera risked her life for a shiny stone, since she said how Cera is more important than any shiny stone. But even when Cera almost falls off a cliff into the lava to keep stone from being lost, Tria didn't seem scared by that at all. She just walks up to Cera cooly after Cera stops and then starts a conversation with her. Perhaps their kids have had so many near death experiences but always make it through somehow, it just isn't as big a deal to the grownups when it happens again, it seems, in this episode at least. Did you hear the grownups asking if they were hurt or if everything was alright? Or even what they could possibly have been thinking to risk their lives like that? The writers just don't seem to give the characters the strong emotions they displayed in the movies. Danger just doesn't seem as serious an issue as it used to be. Later.
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I've not noticed it but now that you mentioned it it does seem odd. And why was Tria there instead of Threehorn. I know someone had to watch Tricia, but Cera is His child not hers. He was so anxious to save her in the log running episode, but not here?
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Just 'cuz Cera is not Tria's child does not mean she does not care about her or feel maternal toward her. She came after Cera. That should say something about their relationship. Besides, she probably felt guilty about (unintentionally) making Cera feel bad about losing the shiny stone. Off-topic now, I agree that the lack of emotion on the adults' part is kind of annoying <_<.
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Why Cera all of a sudden decide to go try and reach for the crystal (shiny Stone)? Thats a question I've been asking myself for so long.
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I think that's 'cuz Cera really does care about making things right when something goes wrong. If she did not care about Tria and about losing the shiny stone, she would not had tried to make the situation right to begin with.
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At least it worked out well.
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Welcome to round three of The Friendly Sharptooth’s outrageous episode reviews! The first point on my list is about green food. What about it, you ask? Good question! The episode starts with Cera and Tricia approaching their mother who has just added to her stone collection heap with a beautiful diamond. Tricia makes some noises, prompting an inquiry from her mother. Cera magically understands the gurgling and says that Tricia is hungry. Why didn’t Cera get her sister any food? Let’s take a look at her line. “We found a great tree star tree, but the good ones are too high for me to reach.” Gee, Cera, did it ever occur to you that there are thousands upon thousands of other plants in the valley that you CAN reach? Just because you find a good tree, does that automatically mean you can’t look elsewhere?
“Sweetie, would you please go and get a can of beans down from the pantry?” “Sure, mom.” The child walks into the kitchen, opens the pantry door, then finds a can of beans on the low shelf and on a high one. The first one she noticed was the one on top, so she attempts to grab it. Try as she might though, it is beyond her reach. Going back to her mother, she says, “Sorry, mom, but I couldn’t reach it. The beans were too high.” “Wasn’t there a can on the low shelf?” “Yeah, but I saw the high one first, so it has to be the one we eat.” “Why is that, dear?” “I just said it’s because I saw it first! There is no way that I am going to get the low can of beans when I saw the top one first. Now help me get it down, or I won’t be eating any beans tonight.” “Uh, whatever you say, dear.”
I mean gosh, does Cera have some policy about only scoping out one tree per meal? Then if it’s too high, she just gives up? If she wants to be obsessive, fine, but she shouldn’t take out her OCD on her hungry little sister. If Tricia is going to depend on her sister for food at times, Cera needs to get therapy, try an antipsychotic medication, or fight out her inner turmoil on her own. If this keeps up, Cera is going to have some hungry children one day.
Then we have Cera get angry at Tria for worrying about her stone and not Cera’s injury. This isn’t The Land Before Time: Dawn of the Seven Heroes from fanfiction.net. Dinosaurs don’t get psychic powers allowing one to read minds. Tria comes back and all she saw was her stone missing. How was she to know that Cera got hurt? A young boy was riding his bike then fell off. He got a tiny scrape on his shoulder and went in to wash it. His shirt completely covered the wound. Then his father comes home. “Did you have a nice day at school, son?” “I hate you! I hate you so much! I just got a scrape from falling off my bike, and my clothing covers it up so you can’t see it, and all you care about is my school day? You’re the worst father in the whole world! Get away from me!” And with that, the boy runs to his room and slam the door. Cera, if you want others to show concern for your injuries, I suggest that you first make them aware of them before complaining about them.
Then we have an engaging game of hide and seek. Apparently, Ruby isn’t very familiar with it. She looks around in the open by not behind anything. “Ruby, dinosaurs normally hide behind things, not in plain sight. Therefore, if you want to find others, you’re going to have to look around objects.” “You mean that dinosaurs actually hide in hide and seek?” “Yes, Ruby. I know it may come as a shock to you, but during hide and seek, you likely won’t find kids out in the open.” “I ëlikely’ won’t?” “Well sure, some idiots may try hiding out in the open, but that probably won’t happen. Just take it from me. Next time you play and hide and see, look in actual hiding spots, not in plain sight.”
Now we come to a prime example of the saying, “Doing it the hard way.” Tria says that she found that shiny rock nearby. Then when Cera proposes that they look for another, she suggests going on a long and perilous journey to get it. Okay, to be fair, they know that shiny stones are definitely found in the Canyon of Shiny Stones, but couldn’t they have at least tried looking in the local area first? “The evil wizard is on the attack! The only thing that can stop him is a stone of purity!” “Where do we find them?” the villagers wanted to know. “They have been seen in the area, but also on the fiery mountain of doom.” The villagers talked amongst themselves, then finally decided what to do. “Okay, the fiery mountain of doom has claimed the lives of many. It is the most dangerous place in the world. Few have survived, and those that have are usually scarred for life just from terror. The local lands are danger-free and easy to traverse. Therefore, we have decided to try the fiery mountain of doom for a purity stone.” “Good call. I had a feeling you’d say that. Now let’s scout the local- wait, what did you just say!?” Seriously, if you know something you need is in two places, try the easy one first. Duh!
Just a little point of interest here. Petrie faints upon hearing that the others want to walk by the Smoking Mountain. Then when he is excused from going, he says, “Wait, they think me scared!?” Well yeah, of course they do! You fainted at the very thought! What, did you thinking fainting was such a subtle reaction that no one would get the hint you were worried? Or did you think fainting is a sign of courage or something? “Link, the evil Ganon has stolen the triforce of power and has taken princess Zelda hostage!” The lad faints. “Wow, he sure is brave!” Body language is a big thing, Petrie. If someone faints at the very thought of something, yeah, they’re gonna think you’re afraid.
Petrie’s sense of fear is very confusing. In The Meadow of Jumping Waters episode, he openly admits that bad luck scared him. Yet in this episode, he claims to not be afraid of something that’s actually dangerous? Apparently, flying over a blasting volcano is nothing compared to bad luck. I just don’t understand how he’s scared of probability but not molten lava. “Big sis, I’m scared!” “What is it? What’s wrong?” “There’s an evil elephant in my closet! Help me! Please! I- I’m so afraid!” Three days later, a tornado is seen blowing through the siblings’ neighborhood. “Are you scared, little sis?” “Me, scared of a tornado that may destroy our home and kill us? Pfft. Gimme a break.” So, I have reached two conclusions. Either Petrie has multiple personality disorder, one being brave and the other not, or he found the triforce of courage before this episode started.
Well, that sums up my points of interest. Perhaps I overanalyzed a few things, but gimme a break; I did my best. I’m The Friendly Sharptooth. I tear apart The Land Before Time so you don’t have to! /Gets out of chair
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very good job Sharp! Keep up the good work!!
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It was an interesting read Friendly Sharptooth. I look forward to more.
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This episode is well done :) A good plot, some action and the animation wasn't too bad (aside from a few... weird shots :lol)
Oh, and I actually like Oops Eeps, ehh I better go :bolt
Seriously, I've heard many people claiming this song is absolutely annoying but I can't quite agree to that. I prefer every new song over a cheap remake of an old song... Good Times, Good Friends is a good song as well :)
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My fifth episode now. ^^
I was really hoping Cera would be able to bring back that stone from the canyon, but right from the beginning, I just knew somehow that she'd end up losing that one too. Oops-Eeps indeed.
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This episode had some great dialogue:
Petrie: "Hey! How about we bring Tria all the tree stars we can carry?"
Cera: "Spike will just eat them all before we can get to my sleeping place."
Chomper: "I know. We could take her some fuzzy crawlers or some buzzy flyers."
Ruby: "Then you'd eat them all."
Ducky: "What is so bad about smoking mountain?"
Petrie: "It have big, black smoke that make sky all dark and spookly. And sometime it get all shaky." *suddenly smiles* "Like Cera when she mad."
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Ducky: "Just because it shakes like Cera does not mean it is scary as Cera."
Mama Flyer: "It's just been so quiet lately. I hope the kids aren't getting bored."
Petrie: "MOOOMMMYYY!!!!"
And, as Ratiasu pointed out, when the lava is almost upon Ruby and all she can say is, "Oh dear..."
The songs indeed just seemed to be there. It made it lose their shine. Though I guess we can cut the song writers a little slack. I mean, they're creating 26 eps here. Most of which I'm expecting to have at least one song in. You try coming up with 20+ songs in one year.
True, although that's kinda my problem right there. I've only seen a few episodes so far, but already it seems like they're straining a little to reach the "two songs per episode" quota. I feel it would've been better if they just aimed for one song per episode. I had a similar issue with the sequel films; instead of three or four songs, I wish they'd just done two songs, and I think that would've improved the overall song quality.
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There will always be 2 songs per episode. Get used to it.
I didn't mention it before, but personally me, I had very hard relationships with LBT songs in main movies, so in TV series, it became even worse for me.
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sad you didn't mention the most funny quote personally for me. Famous Chomper's quote, when he was surrounded by lava and, ahem, some tasty food. :lol :OhYou
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I am aware that every episode has two songs, but that's still a criticism I had.
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Well, this episode was worse than I remember. I thought that people were talking about evil Ducky as a joke, and she wasn't really that evil, but she was kind of evil. She abandoned Spike, hogged the stones, didn't want to lose the stones, and risked her life for a stone. This didn't really seem like Ducky.
I like the scenes where Chomper, Littlefoot, and Petrie are looking for skycolor stones. They find no stones, but Chomper is very cute and funny. I'd give this episode 3 out of 5.
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So, here's another episode where I don't have much to say story-wise, but lots to talk about visually. Although, one thing I do appreciate is Cera screwing up, losing Tria's stone, and then reacting by yelling at her, very much like a kid (or teenager) with a stubborn, angry character like Cera would, especially at a step-parent. It works out in the end, encouraging healthy resolutions, which I also appreciate.
Also, also, I have to make a note of how this is by far the most mortal peril I've ever seen in a preschool age aimed show. It seems like every episode or every other episode, the kids just barely escape being maimed, mauled, and murdered in various fun ways. The adults don't take it seriously, but man, the scene with all the kids climbing up to avoid the lava is still really tense, given that, again, this is a show that seems to be aimed at the 3-6 age range.
Okay, now the fun visual stuff! I'm very curious if different animation teams or even studios worked on different episodes because of how much disparity there is in animation quality and style between episodes or even scenes.
(https://puu.sh/GyzOY/1a1d5cf2b7.jpg)
The very last shot of the episode seems oddly- stretched? Grandma and Grandpa Longneck's torsos seem a touch longer than they ought to be, and I found it a little distracting.
(https://puu.sh/GyzG6/f06accc8d6.jpg)
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Also new in this episode: very obvious 3D models used for certain scenes, especially when the characters only need to do a walk cycle. Maybe it was less noticeable in the initial standard definition airings, but boy howdy, it is very, very noticeable on the 1080p Youtube uploads I've been watching. They don't even try to do the trick of only using the models at a distance, they're just up in your face at times, and it's like a cel-shaded PS2 game. Surprised no one seems to have mentioned as much.
I also made gifs! Because there's some pretty notable animation moments that stuck out to me, and really, describing or screenshotting them doesn't do justice. Not sure if or how to embed them, so I'll just be hyperlinking
Tricia rolling (https://gph.is/g/ZYoJ7Rr)
One of the first things we see in the episode is Tricia doing- this. I mean, I understand what's happening and why, but man, Tricia's limbs go really rubbery and overly smooth at the end of the roll. It's like something out of Looney Tunes or My Little Pony, it's very strange to watch on loop.
Ruby spreading her arms (https://giphy.com/gifs/t7uen0l1Hq7y3zj95y)
Again, this small bit of animation seems oddly smooth in a way I have a hard time describing. The animators did not have to have Ruby do this little gesture, they could have just had her hold her arms in an idle pose, but instead they did this. I have to wonder if the use of 3D models for certain scenes made time for little animation flair like this.
Cera and Ducky (https://gph.is/g/4L3VKYg)
Some very oddly expressive and smooth animation on Cera and Ducky here. Ducky's not entirely on model (she looks a lil' too much like Jiminy Cricket) but the expressions are absolutely on point. I love how Cera doesn't say a word, but her expressions say everything you need to know. Again, the animators did not have to put this much effort in, and usually you don't see this kind of detail in TV animation, even briefly. You don't even usually see this much detail in this show, which is why I have to wonder who animated all these little animation moments.
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That is a good point about how Cera's reaction to losing the stone is pretty believable for a kid like her. Likewise, I do appreciate how, even in a preschool age show, there is plenty of danger and mortal peril to go around. :yes
Also new in this episode: very obvious 3D models used for certain scenes, especially when the characters only need to do a walk cycle. Maybe it was less noticeable in the initial standard definition airings, but boy howdy, it is very, very noticeable on the 1080p Youtube uploads I've been watching. They don't even try to do the trick of only using the models at a distance, they're just up in your face at times, and it's like a cel-shaded PS2 game.
Lol, that was a criticism of mine when I reviewed LBT 11 a while ago. I even used the same comparison to it looking like something out of a PS2 game. :D
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Lol, that was a criticism of mine when I reviewed LBT 11 a while ago. I even used the same comparison to it looking like something out of a PS2 game. :D
Do they use these same character models in 11? I remember a log being CGI in movie 9, but I don't remember any 3D models for the actual characters in the films. Need to rewatch that one and 12-14. I'm only up to 10 recently.
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The 3D models were only at the very end of the film, and I think it was only for some of the background characters, as opposed to the main cast. I too haven't seen #11 in a while now. But this is what I wrote about it at the time.
:PCera
The funniest moment for me was near the end, although it was almost certainly unintentional on the filmmakers' part. When the tree-sweets regrow and the dinosaurs are all sharing them, the camera pans around in a circle, and you can see some CGI dinosaurs. Not the first time computer graphics have been used, but it's the first time they used it for the dinosaur animation, and it sticks out like a sore thumb. All the more jarring because the CGI dinos can be seen alongside the regular hand-drawn ones. Why on Earth did they do it that way? And it was for such a brief shot too, which only made it feel more unnecessary. It looked like something out of a PS2 video game. I actually laughed out loud at how jarring it was.
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This episode infuriates me for one reason. :ceramad The gang makes fun of Petrie for being scared of a volcano. A VOLCANO! Out of all the things they could have made fun out of something that Petrie is scared of it's one of the most dangerous and powerful forces of nature on the planet. They have encountered volcano's before. They know how dangerous they are. Petrie has every right to be scared. But they make fun of him. What the heck? :facepalm Petrie deserves more respect. :(petrie I have a few other problems with this episode but this is what angers me the most.