- I neglected to mention the Fantasia parallels in my initial review, but they're there even before the reveal of the title - I love the weird amphibian's look of utter horror before the pike starts biting at it
- there used to be acacia-dotted, grassy savannahs and lush, Prehistoric Beast-like forests; the drought showed here is more likely than not supposed to be a rendering of what killed the dinosaurs. (either because they were going off of the leading pre-Alvarez theory for what killed the dinosaurs or because they were going off of Fantasia)
- I get that sharpteeth are occupational hazards on the trail to the Great Valley, but do they ever specify if the valley does or doesn't have them itself? (in the first movie, of course)
- Littlefoot's mother stresses their own kind when advertising the Great Valley; that, combined with some of her lines a little later, make me question why some think she is any less racist than the other dinosaurs in the world.
- edit: I think how (Sharptooth) acts can be attributed to how harsh it is in this setting; he's a starving animal in a world that is on the verge of dying, I don't blame him for anything he does
- Here's a story note, and a hot take: I think that Rooter's scene is a little more emotionally impactful than Littlefoot's mother's death.
- I never noticed the look of despair on Littlefoot's face after Cera starts ranting about how threehorns are dangerous and only interact with their own kind before now.
- is "earthshake" a widespread term in the world or just a Ducky-ism?
- Spike, when marching behind Littlefoot, is pretty small - he isn't even as tall as Littlefoot at the back - but in the next scene, he's way bigger; how much time passes during the movie?
- Petrie is an itty-bitty fart; a little over half Ducky's size, small and light enough to fit on her head without her being uncomfortable
- Alright, canon talk - what is the crownheads' deal?
- also, what's with the massive, happy smile Cera puts on her face before snapping at the "monster" that picked her up?
- the script implies that Littlefoot forms (the plan to kill Sharptooth) to protect the Great Valley, but it reads to me as a revenge strike; a little dark to put his friends in such danger to get back at a probably-non-sapient animal...
- a really interesting detail; Sharptooth braces for the boulder to fall at first before Petrie throws the pebble, like he's just accepting his inevitable death
- I'm inclined to wonder how long the Great Valley will last amidst the world collapsing all around it; will it stay green into the Cenozoic?
- Petrie's mom isn't too much bigger than Petrie, maybe a little over twice as big.
- On the note of sharpteeth in the valley - A.) maybe they could be a lot more chill in a paradise, and B.) there is at least one Ornithomimus living in the Great Valley, so...
What's bugging you on Fandom, assuming that's the fan site your referring to?
- They finally found a peaceful valley; I guess they did just get here, so that canonizes the first movie maybe...
- with the first movie in mind, there are two ornithomimid genera running around the Great Valley; this is Hell for an egg.
- smash cut to nighttime, no transition; I assume that ornithomimids are just pests that the valley have to put up with. (context: right after 'Eggs' wraps up)
- Very slight allusion to Littlefoot's mom with Littlefoot being all (his grandparents) have... buuuuuuut then they call their old home the Mysterious Beyond, which makes me doubt if they've left the Valley even though they just found it according to the opening song
- look, kids, eggs being eaten occasionally was in the Great Valley contract, get over it
- This is a tough egg - also, the main conflict of the movie is caused by Cera flying blind into a rock wall and somehow managing to collapse the inexplicably flimsy Great Wall
- I assume that sharpteeth aren't any more or less sapient than last time here - if Littlefoot and the rest of the kids are equivalents of humans of different ethnic backgrounds, is Chomper the dinosaur equivalent of a lion cub?
- the predation instinct is clearly still there... I love Chomper's face when he's on Cera's tail, he's absolutely SAVORING the taste of flesh
- I mean, it could be deduced that (this was also the case) in the first movie, but did they ever explicitly say that the Great Valley doesn't have sharpteeth the first time around?
- the children are magical, they can climb thin air
- Chomper's parents take a while to pick up on Chomper being their kid; were they originally after him in the first place?
- Ducky and Spike at least share a mother; maybe Mama Swimmer hooked up with the Stegosaurus after the first movie... (context: this is referring to that spiketail who appears a few times alongside the kids' parents)
- Uh, if that baby stegosaur is Spike's sibling, did... Mama Swimmer and Papa Spiketail...
I'll stop myself there.
In my case, animation/graphics is LAST THING I'm looking at when I watch/play something. :D
Especially when I know it was made not for for big screens but for VHS.
Of course, I mean cases when it is not that bad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmPmpUTr22c), for example. XD So generallly, all LBT movies, even TV series that has the lowest animation quality don't hurt my eyes with animation.
On the other hand, LBT2 is first movie after great LBT1 with its animation, so it's fair to list animation quality as one of main movie's problems, and it's fair to give it so low mark, especially COMPARING TO LBT1.
- This introduces the characters in a similar way to the last movie; is this an alternate Land Before Time II more than a Land Before Time III?
- The characters live far enough north/south to lay witness to the Aurora Borealis/Australis.
- More has happened in the first 10 minutes of this movie than in the first 25 of the last one.
- I bet it cost millions of dollars to animate Hyp, Mutt and Nod dancing - immediately after the song, Littlefoot viciously invalidates it and makes it pointless
- I don't think this clubtail is Mr. Clubtail; he sounds way different. (I think it's worth mentioning here that I and several other users on the wiki consider most of the various clubtails in the series to be distinct from each other; e.g. we consider Mr. Clubtail, Kosh and the British clubtail from 'The Amazing Threehorn Girl' to be three separate entities)
- threehorns take long baths and spikethumbs like to play in water
- lol Hyp more or less calls himself a bully
- Littlefoot raises his forelimbs and shrugs, I never wanted to see that.
- Honestly; if I were to conceive a sequel to The Land Before Time without being aware of any of the sequels, it would probably be similar to this in a lot of ways.
- Didn't Topps show signs of pepping up at the end of the first movie?
then again, I'd be eternally angry too if one of my legs was missing- Hyp strikes me as the only one of the bullies who is really mean, the other two are just along for the ride
- I noticed the left hypsilophodon's face and laughed, and I went back to take a couple of pictures; one of the pictures, uh...
- I think the pacing has been better this time around - Hyp just drank tar, he's going to die
- Topps experiences a gasp of character development that will fizzle away in a couple of movies.
- This was released two years before The Lost World: Jurassic Park, but it has really similar raptor designs - was the tiger-striped look popular in the nineties?
- Very convenient for that one boulder to have been the one clogging the water; the water flow is nice and delayed, too, the adults have just enough time to leisurely walk out of the way.
- The Time of the Great Giving name took years and years - very likely generations - to catch on; the Old One is one of the valleydwellers here
- The characters live far enough north/south to lay witness to the Aurora Borealis/Australis.
I wonder if your rating for Wisdom of Friends is still going to be 1.5/10.
- Some regions of the world went through dramatically different changes than what was shown in the first movie; some parts became too wet for even the dinosaurs.
Or the world is starting to improve and this is a prologue to either The Good Dinosaur or The New Dinosaurs.- Grandpa calls his mate 'Grandma' - is that her name?
- The dinosaurs are being driven to extinction by general climate change, not just worldwide drought - I guess even the swamp-dwelling dinosaurs of this world have wetness limits
- If Grandma's tear hadn't fallen on Littlefoot, this movie would have gone way differently.
- The tree reptile can be interpreted as some sort of ornithischian; the Triceratops eating water plants has sharp teeth.
Nice to know that Cera is completely over her racism.- What is a sea turtle doing in a cave that may or may not be really far from the Western Interior Seaway (what's left of it in the Maastrichtian, anyway)?
- Can Archie and the others understand what (Ichy and Dil) are saying, and if so, why do they not question talking sharpteeth?
- an obligatory cute mammal who is more sapient than the average sharptooth in the context of this point in the series
- I like Ichy contemplating hitting Dil; not everything about them is awful, at least.
- Idea: Dil kills Ichy after he "bites" her tail and the rest of the climax is the kids facing a crazed sharptooth who is flying blind.
- Spike talking strikes me as a natural evolution; he's really young and he's finally learning to talk, stress is just the push he needed.
- Ichy could move to the ocean and live like a normal seabird, but yeah no Dil is completely screwed - if the plesiosaur didn't get her, something else must have.
- I think there was a plan for a continuing story that was executed only through III and IV; the land continually changing as the characters grew up and eventually ending with all of the heroes together.
- I don't think the plan was for Ali to come back in an episode of a janky TV series with an obsession with a Ronno-type character, and to only appear in that one episode.
- I want to see someone try and continue the story that was set up by this movie and the last movie and subsequently completely thrown aside when Grosvenor stepped in.
Godspeed with the review marathon! Can't say I would (or will) agree with some of your ratings, but it's good to hear someone else's perspective of the sequels.Thanks for the words of encouragement; suffice to say that I've been enjoying putting these here.
Before I jump in, let me share a theory on what I think happened for the series to get to the point I'm about to lay witness to
The Great Valley Adventure is released to test the waters with the idea of Land Before Time sequels. Two other sequels, III and IV are either in production alongside it and have a lot more time to develop or are crapped out within the span of less than a year (yeah, JWE was rushed, sure). Either way, in '95 or '96, the classic Peenutverse villain Charles Grosvenor (I'm not gonna elaborate, Nate and/or Mr. Clubtail can explain) and a new crew step in to replace Roy Allen Smith and the old crew - they decide, whether because neither III or IV did as well as II or simply out of preference, to toss whatever was being shaped by the last movie in favor of something that expands on II. V and VI result, before themselves being trashed by the post-art shift sequels.
I'm expecting something that can be viewed as an alternate III like how I see III as an alternate II.
- Grandpa has a point (about how Mr. Clubtail deserved that leaf); the kids are reading as annoying brats six minutes in.
- "Whimsical music! The kids get to eat leaves! Spike is such an oaf that he almost eats his sister!"
- Very explicit reference to the characters having come from outside of the Great Valley.
- Unpopular opinion; I wish they didn't take music from the original movie, it seriously cheapens that score.
- The idea of "another land of plenty" seriously cheapens the special-ness of the Great Valley.
- yes, clearly the swarming leafgobblers are the only reason the lands are barren, it's not like the world is supposed to be ending because of dinosaur-killing drought or anything...
- This movie doesn't know how to handle the first movie and the other sequels, so it's nice to know that it having the kids call the ocean the "big water" is going to be mauled and misinterpreted by the later sequels and the TV series.
- Darn it, Angel Island's fallen back into the ocean, someone call Sonic and Tails.
- This is like 'Return to Hanging Rock' in that it introduces conflicts only to solve them as soon as they bring them up; the kids having to adapt to all of the foreign, unusual island food should have been way more of a point than something that has less than a minute dedicated to it.
- Petrie's fear of flying over a body of water that can't possibly hurt him is really a driving point of the plot, huh?
- I don't like this Littlefoot voice actor as much as the one from the RAS sequels, but he doesn't do half bad; the log briefly not floating is another worthless example of a blink-and-you-miss-it conflict
- I don't think "swimming sharptooth" is a proper term, it's just a term the kids made up to describe this one specific sharptooth that can swim
- Why in the name of Don Bluth can Chomper suddenly talk?
edit: Chomper's charm was him being a small wild animal; obviously, they didn't get that memo...- I quacked at the way Ducky screams "heeeelllppp"; she doesn't immediately recognize the intimidating, snaggle-toothed pterosaur as a predator.
- Chomper being able to talk because he spent one day with these five is the equivalent of a lion cub in our world being bottlefed for a day after being born and growing into an adult who can speak fluent French.
- I'm still agreeing with Cera and the others, here; Littlefoot, you're going to regret all of this when (Chomper) grows up to bite your head off.
- Plates isn't amazing, but he's in the upper echelon of sharpteeth; I don't like his sounds one bit though.
edit: I think he can understand Leafglish and is actively spiting them- if the characters stopped feeling like they had weight to them in II, they feel like anti-gravity beings in this movie
- All of that searching for food and a new home for their parents has been invalidated, they found a place offscreen...
- "Because you kids ran off and put yourselves in serious danger, we found food and water! Good on you kids!"
- the Great Valley was founded by galloping Brachiosaurus that were immediately beset by a Tyrannosaurus
- (SLAP) (TRUMPET) "Let me digest that elephant, dammit!" (SLASH)
- the whole setup with cowboy dinosaurs and bad luck belongs in a different franchise
- Seasons are a thing in this movie, but they're going to forget about them in two movies (either that or climate change is even starting to affect the Great Valley...).
- Petrie strokes his keratinous beak and says that his skin feels softer already.
- If Ducky seriously thought that intruding upon Mrs. Maia's nest was anything resembling a good idea, I don't know what to say...
- I don't like Dana and Dinah whatsoever, but at least the characters care about them; they are toddlers, after all, it would be weird and nasty if they hated them.
- Spike comes off as a lot more endearing here than last time
- No, Littlefoot, that clearly is a tree trunk; seriously though, if I went into this blind, I'd assume that Apharji (yes, I have a pet name for the "useless sharptooth") was an Albertosaurus or something.
- Littlefoot's unhealthy obsession with Doc and Saurus Rock isn't any better than babies being dumb.
- Cera glances behind herself and neglects to notice a sharptooth... and when it's right behind her drooling on her, she also ignores it
- This version of the Mountains that Burn score sounds a little more percussive; honestly, Apharji isn't too terrible, at least not yet...
- I like Petrie's stupid reassurance for Ducky.
- (The Allosaurus) biting the log for some reason leads to what could have been his death, dummy.
- What are the chances that everything here is a result of the nocebo effect and not actual bad luck?
- "This valley's nice, but there are others just as nice somewhere out there." I think I heard the first movie dying in the background, sorry.
- I always forget about the tornado scene whenever I watch the movie.
edit: The dinosaurs' comfort must be dropping like crazy.- This feels like an overlong TV series episode.
- another decent line - "I wonder if all of the other lone dinosaurs talk out loud to themselves like this..."
- Doc is the best thing about this movie by a long shot.
- Apparently Littlefoot doesn't check the sharptooth for it breathing; sharpteeth naturally smell like death.
- Okay, so Apharji is clearly awake and bothered by what Littlefoot is doing inside his mouth; why does he let him screw around in there for so long?
- "Hey, I'm in this too!" - random T. rex
- (in response to how the sharpteeth are disposed of) Well that's (stinking) horrifying, especially with the last movie in mind
- "You never know when we might need a hero! We might need a hero holding out for the... something"
- There's no harm in making sure bad luck is vanquished. Actually, wait, no, you just killed two wild animals to harvest a tooth from one of them to prove your stupid point.
- Does this take place before or after the Alpha-Bits commercial?
- the rainbowfaces' message of being open to new ideas is a good thing
- The rainbowfaces are definitely maniraptoriforms; I'm split between the old Gallimimus classification and them being "Troodon" as references to the Dinosauroid hypothesis.
- The concepts being introduced here are so incongruous with the world that it kind of works; it's not boring juxtaposition like cowboys and dinosaurs, it's weird and fun.
- Alright, a quick, messy theory as to how this works: this is a world filled with close-minded jerks that are so close-minded that even extraterrestrials are sick of their crap, seeing the close-mindedness be challenged is refreshing
- Pterano: SETTLE DOWN! WE MIGHT WAKE UP THE GROWN-UPS!
- brutal slaughter of a small herd of giant, well-armored dinosaurs at the claws of three Deinonychus; is this in the Clash of the Dinosaursuniverse?
- Spike, for once, is motivated by something other than food - he's a good artist, too!
- Ducky seems aware that echoes are just mirrors of herself - I take it that Saurolophus are more intelligent than Apatosaurus.
- If this were V, Spike wouldn't have even bothered with the flower, he would have started eating the vine before he even stepped on it and gotten everyone killed.
- I hate Ducky's seductive bobbing when Petrie is singing about how some of the worst possible things have been done with the best intentions.
- I think Rinkus and Sierra are fish-eaters; there isn't any proof of this, but still.
- Someone turn the oven off, that meatloaf is bubbling!
- Are the rainbowfaces aliens or the less handsomely-paid staff of the universe?
- Pterano's punishment might be a little severe, but it's obvious that things aren't as bad as they were in the first movie anymore, so I think he'll make it out there.
- The male rainbowface was voiced by one of the gargoyles from The Hunchback of Notre Dame; this movie would have been unbearable if there was a Jason Alexander rainbowface.
- Why is Spike's chin so prone to losing its colors?
- Apparently the dinosaurs independently figured out how evolution works.
- Why do spiketails use their heads to knock food from trees and not their tails?
- Grobble
- (magical whimsical music as Littlefoot walks through the underbrush)
- "Spike lost his parents" err, more that he was ditched by his parents and left as food for eggstealers
"There were no other spiketails in the Great Valley (until now)" There goes the canonicity of all of the pre-art shift sequels!- I quacked at Grandpa being passive-aggressive. (context: "Do you still like the ground sparkles, Littlefoot!?")
- Thicknose should be faring better in these conditions than the other species, given that (certain species of) his kind are found pretty far north.
- VII is unquestionably canon to this movie; by extension, so is the first movie.
- I wonder if Mrs. Swimmer had to go through a similar situation to what Ducky is going through here when she was little (but with a biological sibling and not a spiketail, obviously).
- The Tyrannosaurus design is inexplicably dramatically different, more Chomper-esque; I headcanon that they're sub-adults but, let's be real here, they're retconned like every other stinking thing in the post-art shift series.
- The ultimate sharptooth. Knocked out by a big ball of snow.
- I think it's a good time to point out that the non-avian ornithodirans in the series are probably warm-blooded (or at least mesothermic) if they can survive these conditions in the first place.
- a 2 or more-ton Pachyrhinosaurus slipping around on ice like a dog, sure
- Hold the phone - how did the hot spring freeze over in the first place??
- That is not enough green food to feed the entire Great Valley.
- Even with the log, (the sharptooth) had all of the chance in the world to right himself after he was hit by it, but he let it drag him into the abyss - don't give me any crap about the snow on the ground, he didn't even try to put himself back on it.
- This is the last sequel that uses the first movie's score past a scene a piece in IX and XI.
- This movie has three climaxes that are over in heartbeats; the final battle against Gottahurt (yes, I have a pet name for this sharptooth too), re-opening the valley gap and Mama Swimmer saving her son.
- Swimmers have a problem with muddy nesting areas?
- "I wish my mom had given me a brother, and then I'd always have someone to have fun with."
She gave you several. It wasn't her fault that they didn't make it past the embryonic stage.- I think Littlefoot is kind of annoying here, but I'll concede that he's showing a little more character here than usual; he's childlike in how he just wants to have fun.
- It's taken them a really long time to get around to introducing Mo; most of the movie until the 18 minute mark has been dedicated to the kids being bored and everyone complaining about water.
- It would have been interesting if they made Mo distinct from Littlefoot and the others by having him be to dinosaurs what dolphins are to humans (I know ichthyosaurs aren't dinosaurs, bear with me) instead of just another kid; as he is he just comes off as a weird mermaid.
- Ducky accidentally offending Mo leads to like 4 minutes of the kids denying Mo's existence; it doesn't serve the plot and it only gives way to...
- ME HAVE A FRIEND. A VERY SPECIAL FRIEND. BUT NOBOD CAN SEE ORHERE HIM AEVER DAY I SAY HE MAKES ME HAPPY WHEN ME SCARY SHARPTOOTH MUST BE NO HE SHORT AND HE NICE NO TEETH AND BEST OF ALL, HE IMAGINARY? HE IMAGINARY. IMAGINARY. OH IMAGINARY FRIENDS ARE PLAY. HAPY WHEN YOU SAD, THEY ALWAYS BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SAY. NANANANANANANANANANANANANANANAN IMAGINARY. NANANANANANANANANANANANANA IMAGINARY.
WHY WOULD YOU WNT A DUMB FRIEND? HE"S NOT REALLY AIR HOW CAN NOBODY BE THINK BE SMART? THEY NEVER EVER GO THEY GO AND WHATEVER YOU ALWAYS RIGHT. OH IMAGINARY FRIENDS ARE MAGICAL FRIENSS> THE SMALL AND BIG ONES> BAMY FIRNEDS@ EVERYBODY EBERYBOERYB ODBERIRBEOREBRYERO EBROBERY EVEYROBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY RVEYRTOBE OREAFKENFGOIEGF
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASNSNSNSNNSNSNSNSNSnnANSNASKNASNANANANANA
IMAGINARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- The earthquake scene is the only thing that stood out to me about this movie when I first watched it in 2007/2008.
- This is the first serious valley earthshake that the series has ever seen; didn't they come here to get away from all of this? Between this and the climate change trouble that started in the last movie, is the Great Valley starting to fall apart?
- They do not know what to do with the running time; half of the movie up to the 36 minute mark has been fluff and filler.
- Littlefoot, show a little anger over that stunt (where Mo scares the kids by supposedly trapping himself), show an emotion other than "we were worried!" and "yay! The good boy!", please, for the love of God...
- the kids are walking through some distinctly Paleozoic landscapes, it takes them at least one day to get as far as they do in the slow montage of them walking.
- V probably didn't happen in this universe, so I take it that they sang 'Big Water' and went there once some time ago in some never-before-seen adventure.
- The sauropodlets look like Diplodocus versions of Tricia.
- Skywater > heatwaves, according to Petrie; they've reached brackish water.
Speaking of: were marine reptiles capable of surviving in freshwater?- The Liopleurodon is scary because it's such an alien threat for the series; all of the other sharpteeth before now have been lesser clones of Sharptooth or lame comedy villains, Leo here takes the template of Sharptooth, applies it to a marine animal and has a decent amount of fun with it.
The scene is really effective; probably the best sharptooth "fight" of all of the sequels.
edit 2: I don't buy Mo being able to close the pliosaur's mouth for a second but that's so brief that it doesn't detract from him; this 70ft+ animal can jump like a boss.- In a perfect world, Mo died here; wouldn't it have been really ballsy and mature if what Cera told Littlefoot on the matter was tied to the moral of the movie and not just garnish for a godawful bait-and-switch of him inexplicably surviving?
- (the sharptooth swimmer) smelled the ocean and just yeeted, leaving a perfectly good meal; he's not on par with Sharptooth, just close, for a few reasons...
- 1:05:44, Cera mentions that the Smoking Mountains are the way home; almost a whole minute later through some fancy echolocation technology, it is revealed that the kids' home is immediately to their left and that this entire journey could have been exponentially shorter.
- I think this is the last time they use the theme with the choir from II; the scene of Littlefoot diving wasn't necessary, but it was a decent showcase of one of the movie's very few strengths.
- Littlefoot here sounds older than any of the other Littlefoot voice actors.
- The kids bait one of their best friends into hurting herself on a rock, pleasant.
- You five regularly go on harrowing adventures and only now do you sing about the prospect of going on one???
- The crocodile has problems with subtlety - Ducky, your kind are built for swamps in this universe, you should love this place.
- Apparently sharptooth skin has a similar enough texture to rock for the kids to mistake Smasher (read: the awful gray sharptooth) for one; he looks absolutely MASSIVE when they're close up on him.
- One of the themes from II is given a bit of a reprise at a point - how big was the asteroid that left the crater?
- "This is your father. He was dead in context of the first movie, but he's back."
I think one of the anonymous longnecks yells "oh, my God!" when Littlefoot is running away.- Alright, so picture this: in a decidedly green valley filled with various kinds of sauropod, Bron decides to abandon his mate, Blue Louise, to look for the Great Valley, which is semi-easily reached by going west for long enough. He comes back to find the green valley up in smoke, burned to a crisp by tectonic activity and his nest swallowed up by the Big Underground that his mate and parents-in-law didn't move from in the five years since he ditched them. He navigated a canyon, some rain, a luscious, verdant plain (??!?!?!?!?!?!??) and some rocks over the course of several days before Rooter told him that Sharptooth killed Louise but he didn't know what happened to Littlefoot. One day, in a wonderful green woodland, he saw a young brachiosaur shielding some Camarasaurus and Diplodocus calves. Noticing that Littlefoot wasn't among them, he abandoned the babies and only begrudgingly let them follow him. He got used to them and let some other sauropods gang up with him.
The only detail Littlefoot gleams from Bron's story of failing to be a good father and abandoning his family is that he is the leader of a whole herd and that his mother would have been proud of him.- oh, and he sings about how cool this deadbeat pile of stem-bird red meat is
- apparently Littlefoot didn't pick up on the detail of Shorty being one of the young'ns Bron found; one of the babies that was alongside him clearly hasn't grown since Bron found him a few days after Louise died, I bet it's only been a few months since the first movie ended in this universe.
- one day, the moon pushed the sun out of the sky because it was jealous and a bunch of sauropods threw it back into orbit (yes, the orbit around the Earth, dinosaurs have figured out how evolution works but they're still flat-earthers)
- Bron's view on sharpteeth is that they're all cowards, too chicken to hunt a large herd; they are habitual pack-hunters, they hunt in pairs and trios.
Friendly reminder that his mate was killed by a completely fearless Tyrannosaurus that hunted by itself.- I got distracted, pressed a button and made the movie Spanish; Littlefoot's Spanish name is El Pequinio (????).
- Crusher (the red sharptooth) is more concerned with looking cool and roaring than with actually attacking Pat, and he is felled by a handful of tiny pebbles.
- Why are all of the rexes more concerned with screaming and looking cool than with actually killing the sauropods they're hunting?
- Thrasher's (the green rex... yes, all of my X rex pet names end with 'sher) defeat is understandable given that his two attackers are two giant (elderly) Apatosaurus.
- I won't fault (the sharpteeth) for being afraid of the event; if anything, all of the characters should be panicking like that in the face of an eclipse, a tornado, and a thunderstorm all in one.
- They're all still looking at the eclipse (particularly the sharpteeth, they're just roaring and glaring at it dumbfoundedly); they're all going to go blind.
- Littlefoot opens his eyes prematurely, he's going to die; the sun being right behind the moon is the only point in which it's safe to look at an eclipse, if it's not completely obscured you're destroying your eyes
- They make a point of having Pat live in the Great Valley with the kids, but he never shows up ever again.
- Threehorns feel pain when they ram into things, they just grin and bear it.
- Bron assumed his son was alive until now but just chose not to look for him... "dad" and "deadbeat" start with the same letter.
- I'm not happy that Littlefoot is staying with his friends and grandparents, I'm happy that he's not staying with that loser.
- The narrator point-blank says that Littlefoot and his father will have more adventures together; was that one TV series episode already planned at this point?
- The music that opens the movie is weirdly beautiful; it sounds like it came out of the town level from Jurassic Park: Trespasser.
- Dinosaurs the size of kittens were probably a lot more common than the big ones, we just don't have too many fossils of them yet.
- "Small things can be very important. The dinosaurs of the Great Valley knew that." Not yet, they don't.
- "Flying pointy-bottomed stinger"; is that a Petrie-ism or a verbose general dinosaur-ism?
- At least Topps has a proper motivation; this is HIS tree and he will DIE for it
- Cera has finally regressed to the point where she sees Littlefoot not being an adult as something to bully him over.
- Littlefoot, if you've stayed this small for all of this time, you're probably never going to grow up, get over it.
Though, I have to say, he looks exponentially smaller than in the last movie (which is canon, Grandma brings up Bron); maybe he's shrinking.- Littlefoot is insecure about his size because Cera is one-dimensional so he de-flowers a tree and sees a bunch of miniature neosauropods
- There are still some vines on the tree for everyone to enjoy, Topps, they're nice and sweet too.
I get that Cera doesn't like seeing her father in this position, but holy hell, get a grip.- the valleydwellers collectively have one braincell - only Grandpa understands the worth of little things, even Grandma is against him
- This is a good point of reference for gauging the valleydwellers' intelligence; if they were to be thrust back into the Great Beyond, they would all die within days and would probably be fodder for Red Claw - yes, even Red Claw.
Also, good continuity; a Styracosaurus walks past a root and gets ready to go past one side of a tree, and in the very next shot he is underneath the root he just walked past and gets himself stuck.- Littlefoot sets Cera off by mentioning that Tria could be her "new mom"; so, something happened to Mama Topps, and she didn't die on the way to the Great Valley... and there was a pink threehorn looking at her funny at the end of the first movie... The case doesn't look that good for Tria.
- There's a good idea here with Topps getting a new partner and Cera feeling alienated, but I don't think they're executing it well; Tria isn't all that interesting, Topps is suddenly a completely different character and Cera is unlikable.
Tria just migrated her after the cold time - alright, that's a hiccup in the theory of her having blood on her horns, but she could have been hiding in the shadows until now, and she could have lied when she told Topps how she came here...
Littlefoot's screams sound ridiculously unenthused.- wouldn't it have been something else if Littlefoot developed a god complex when he met the tiny longnecks?
- Ducky uttering the word "Topsy" is enough to make Cera threaten to kill her - Christ, the threehorn has reached a new low.
- Is it just me, or is everyone really spiteful towards each other in this movie?
- Remember when Petrie was half Ducky's size in the first movie? Now he's big enough to offer rides to small sauropods.
- this is beautiful contrast to Littlefoot worshipping his deadbeat dad in the last movie; a song demeaning one-note jerk dads!
- "Just because they're bigger, they think that makes them more important, and sometimes they for get about the little details. Like us." Big Daddy single-handedly trashes the opening narration.
- I'm going to wager that the tinysaur burrow is barren, given that they're clearly dependent on the kids for food - they must have been nocturnal foragers before the treesweet tree incident.
- Apparently guard duty is necessary for a few single-digit-pound longnecks that the valleydwellers only know to eat plants.
- Topps sees the aforementioned single-digit-pound longnecks as potential threats to a ten-ton Triceratops cow.
- And they're clearly capable of speaking English, but Topps acts like they're sharpteeth; are treesweets that big a deal to these freaks??
- "Savages, savages, barely even ornithodiran!"
- I appreciate that the newer movies have more original scores; they're not as intrusive as horribly-misused Horner music and they tend to sound good.
- Littlefoot is getting smaller, Grandpa outright confirms it; it's been because he's been holding onto little things like lies and has lost his way.
- The kids are mad at him because he messed up the tree and befriended the tiny longnecks and made the grownups push a rock on them (even though they didn't...); I kind of like the dumb joke of Spike eating all of Petrie's best treestars, though.
- Tria only likes the tinysaurs because they're cute, very deep.
Topps wasn't always so mean... care to elaborate, Tria?- Tickling, the ultimate way to defeat a sharptooth; Tria, you're a Triceratops, you could kill both of these clowns with no effort, especially with Topps by your side.
- The purple one should have died from Topps ramming it like that - I'll give these things credit for being insanely resilient, but that's all the credit I can give them.
- "Why don't you pick on somebody your own size?" -Big Daddy, immediately before picking on some creatures a hundred times their own size and having his children nibble them like the compies did Dieter Stark
- I'd flee too if I saw all of those giant, potentially dangerous herbivores barging towards me.
- Alright, the sharpteeth aren't going to come back, but where are the tiny longnecks going to live now?
- Who let those two rainbowface-colored fastbiters into the Great Valley?
- Gondwana is reassembling; the movie takes place somewhere in East Africa.
- The term "Mysterious Beyond' is, unfortunately, back.
- The pterosaurs were cartoony in their movements as early as the first movie so I won't fault them there; the other creatures come off as a lot more solid and well-crafted than last time, even if the colors are a little duller.
- Littlefoot hasn't paid too much attention to the Great Valley's bird population, and he either doesn't remember or has never seen Ichy.
- Mr. Clubtail's bopper scene is holy
- "Petrie, I can't even chew!" realistically, none of the main characters but Ducky should be able to chew.
- The "new addition" exchange is another good moment.
- Petrie's siblings are one-note jerks; Guido innocently insulting them is cute, it would have been funnier if the flyer family didn't burst into laughter.
- "Mrs. Tubehead" sounds like the name of a Parasaurolophus character.
- Cera is getting heavier, her charging is enough to cause small earthquakes.
They've built up Cera being upset a lot better than in the last movie; at the very least, she's hurting Ducky unintentionally and not as some weird targeted violence like in the last movie.- seeing the worm in the leaf stirs some ancient, primal instinct in Guido, look at his expression when he first lays eyes on it
- for reference, Guido starts sleepwalking at around 43:55 minutes in.
- "Hey! How'd he do that?" How'd he do what??
- Who left that giant field of fire and brimstone in the Great Valley?
- Ten minutes! Ten minutes! (context: that's how long the sleep-walking scene is)
- It took them six whole years to use Spinosaurus in the series following the release of Jurassic Park III.
- Ducky says "what is that thing?" when she sees him and Cera doesn't know what it is either - they've never seen a Spinosaurus before.
- "Those rocks won't stop him for long!" You're overestimating him, Littlefoot, he doesn't know how to go backwards.
- Alright, the scene was reason for there to be a threat of Petrie missing the Great Day of the Flyers, but still, that was a lot of time dedicated to belating Petrie.
- What is it with babies being distracted by dragonflies in this series?
- Topps and Tria are awoken by Tricia's cries even though they were awake during the song
- the proper climax of Petrie saving Guido saving Tricia is better than the random sharptooth scene.
Also, more credit to the sleepwalking scene; I guess it sets up Guido being able to glide...- Apparently Petrie's act of defiance has completely changed the Great Day of the Flyers.
- "Many changes had occurred on this day of changes." REALLY!>!?!?!?!?!?@>?!>@?!?!>@?!?!?>@!?@!!#11111
C'mon, XIII is not so horrific so anybody would lose their sanity. XD
- have a dumb theory that I made up in a few minutes without much rhyme or reason: TWoF takes place after the TV series, Red Claw was defeated offscreen (either in an epic battle that was too good for the crappy show or by hunger after being abandoned by Screech and Thud), Chomper and Ruby have returned to the Mysterious Beyond and everyone has gotten even flatter and more stale. I know that makes Journey of the Brave take place before this movie, bear with me.
Either way, come on come on and dance.- Meanwhile, in eastern Russia...
- Cera sounds a little different; higher-pitched and a little more nasally.
- apparently climbing things is a problem when you're a threehorn; are Dana and Dinah canon?
- This series is founded in the school of disobeying your parents, but here we have an entire movie of espousing the opposite mindset.
- the buildup to Loofah is a lot swifter than Guido's buildup was, but the creatures that are built up are infinitely more sinister in this case.
- Yellowberries are obligate frugivores and have negative-digit IQs.
- Well, the yellowbellies sure are good at... uh... moving.
- Loofah and Doofah had to have turned around after they climbed up to this plateau, so that joke's burnt. (context: them mistaking the Great Valley for the Mysterious Beyond - they had to have climbed in the direction facing the Mysterious Beyond after climbing their little plateau from the Great Valley, so they had to have turned back in the direction they just came from to look back at the Great Valley so they could mistake it for the Mysterious Beyond)
- being taught things and learning in general is an alien concept to yellowbellies
- mental warfare: give the yellowbellies instructions on how to breathe, let them start suffocating when they forget them and leave them to die from oxygen deprivation
- The true heroes of the movie enter the picture through Loofah's stupidity.
- You know, it's really barren out here; are the drought conditions returning?
- I want to say that they're not even bothering to run, but holy hell, (the sharpteeth are) incapacitated to the point where they can't even escape!
- and, when they are absolutely no threat, Littlefoot completely buries them alive to the sound of "WOW! HE DID THE HEROIC DEED!" music.
- disguising yourself as a bush should not be anything resembling a good survival strategy; unless you smell like a bush, anyway, maybe the yellowbellies smell like bushes.
- Spike bonding with Foobie is weirdly sweet; now that I think about it, was the rationale behind introducing the yellowbellies just to have characters that are generally stupider than Spike?
- "The yellowbellies got along just fine before they met us." Cera absolutely trashes the plot of the entire movie; in a perfect world, the movie ends there.
- This is the second time they've used that one specific audio clip of Doofah saying "Stay in a group. Sounds like fun!"
- Maybe the yellowbellies would have been less annoying if they were way more basal tetrapods and were to the dinosaurs what cattle or other livestock are to people - I say this as the kids wrangle the yellowbellies.
- The world definitely seems way more barren than usual; of all of the Grosvenor-and-onward sequels to respect the apocalyptic conditions of the original movie...
- The most advanced plants that exist out here are weeds and short grasses.
- they reuse stock tree/mountain backgrounds from the TV series/the Great Valley earlier in the movie; it's sparse enough tree cover to not really deflate the drought idea
- Understanding that different people perceive everything in different ways isn't a bad message, but maybe they shouldn't have conveyed the new world Littlefoot is being shown with a bunch of complete boofballs.
- Someone got paid to smear this weird, terrible-looking dot effect all over these otherwise-passable backgrounds.
- Real talk: with how slow the yellowbellies are, it's astounding that (the sharpteeth) can't catch them.
- These are regular post-art shift trashy lame sharpteeth (refer to Waalek (err, this wonderful fellow :bestsharptooth) letting Littlefoot run under his legs), but they're easy to root for because of how the protagonists are portrayed.
- Berry Valley was RIGHT OVER THERE
edit: It looks tiny; a fraction the size of the Great Valley; apparently one having Spike-tier intelligence is makes them worthy of being the Wise One.- There's a yellowbelly in the background with a thick, goofy British accent going "Oh-ho! It's berry time! Berry time! Ooooohh!"
- yes, leave them, I hope the door doesn't slam them on the way out... I hope the Indominus Rex charges in and slaughters the lot of them instead
- No, Littlefoot, they didn't have wisdoms; they had dumdoms.
- Ducky admits that she and the others have trouble staying in the Great Valley; yeah, they're never going to improve on that.
- (in response to how I closed the XIII review) Alright, cynicism aside, the next movie is the only TLBT movie that I actually anticipated; the copy I have is the same one I picked up at Walmart on the day of its release.
- Meanwhile, on Victoria Island in Arctic Canada...
- barely a minute in and Smasher (=the gray T. rex from X) gets destroyed by a Stegosaurus, tearing apart his family and presumably leaving a bunch of baby Tyrannosaurus orphaned
- Ducky has new siblings on the way; I guess Mama Swimmer's Stegosaurus significant other is still around.
The song is a decent way of reintroducing all of the characters.- So, uh... why are these baby saurolophi here in the first place, other than to be cute?
- It feels... wrong to not hear Kenneth Mars' voice come out of Grandpa.
- A new term has been invented! "Ice" (10+ XP for Grandma Longneck)
- What is it with creatures in this world and not wanting to help dinosaurs out of certain death?
- Bron is strong, yes, but not wise.
- the voice actors that have been retained from the older sequels sound pretty much exactly like they did in XII.
- Petrie lives in a tree, apparently; Littlefoot point-blank says that Petrie is scared of everything.
- For once, Spike eating actually leads to good things happening... okay, yes, the good thing is in the form of stinkweed so noxious that it makes Ducky's nostrils vanish, but still.
- For once, the kids decide to exploit sharpteeth's strong senses of smell.
- Extensively feathered large theropods? In my Universal dinosaur movie!?
- so, the kids stop to drink, and then Spike stupidly starts eating his own cloak, and then Littlefoot falls in because of Spike's stupidity and the rest of the kids' brains turn to goo and make them think that Littlefoot is intentionally swimming in the pond
- Fast-acting water; the yutyrannuses immediately smell the kids after they start swimming.
- there is a strange-looking panning shot that uses CGI where the gang barely even change perspective even though the shot itself does
- I'm not going to fault the featherheads because A.) that's a pretty steep slope and B.) I don't think the pale one could have seen the rope trick coming.
- they're honestly a little scarier than usual sequel sharpteeth for as weird as their designs are in places; at the same time, the kids seem to be getting sharptooth-handling down to a science.
- Ruby sounds, and kind of reads as, younger here than she did in he TV series.
- The young ones have done way worse, Topps.
- the scene of Littlefoot looking out at the fire mountain is really good, as short as it is.
- "Chomper only eats bugs!" for now, Ruby... for now...
- 'On Your Own 2: The Angrying"
- Cera is still the best singer of the Gang of Five.
- Post-post-art shift Compsognathus - they are frugivores, they're called "diggers" because they live in burrows.
- Fiddles are things in this world.
- alright, there's something mildly amusing about seeing Petrie in a position of power, but this has nothing to do with anything
- No, the cute end gag of the diggers coronating a bewildered Parasaurolophus immediately after Petrie leaves doesn't make up for all of that wasted time.
- Etta's retelling of the volcano incident is a lot better than Wild Arms'; it's a lot more dramatic and not tainted by attempts to be funny.
- "That's my dad. He wouldn't leave anyone behind." Except you, Littlefoot.
- I think this is the only time that they've gotten a musical artist on board for a movie and given them room to flex their singing muscles; suffice to say that Reba is flexing, the song is really good.
- Bovus (the horned sharptooth, one last pet name for the road) barely does anything, why do people think he's so competent and one of the ultimate sharpteeth?
- Littlefoot and Etta are the only interesting characters here; everyone else is either one-note or kind of annoying.
- okay, Bovus is back; he threatens to be a threat for a few seconds
...because of Wild Arms, he almost gets everyone killed, and they're only saved by some lazy rainbowfaces.- It wouldn't have made a difference if Topps, Grandpa and the others didn't follow.
- I would feel insulted if I were compared to Bron.
- well that ended suddenly.
Apparently Littlefoot and his friends will always be together until the end of their days, even though Chomper and Ruby are going to leave once Red Claw is out of the picture...- There were three animation studios behind this, and I don't think they're the same ones behind the other sequels: Animation Studio Co., Brilliant Animation Studios and Tycoon Animation.