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Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Noname on March 19, 2007, 10:07:00 AM
This was a good episode. For those of you who haven't sen it, hereare the basics

1. When playing a soccer-like game, the characters find a bunch of fruit trees.

2. The trees smell very bad to predators (like Chomper), but very good for herbivores.

3. The characters gorge themselves on the fruit, and as time goes by, the canyon smells less bad for Chomper.

4. One night, Screech and Thud enter the valley, but are driven off.

5. It turns out that the adults already knew of the hidden canyon, and mention that the bad-smelling fruits kept the predators out.

6. In the end, there is a fight involving Redclaw and his raptors against Littlefoot's grandfather and "Topsy", with the fruits being used to drive off the predators (Redclaw even swallow a fruit that is thrown at him, much to his chagrin.)

7. And finally, the canyon has to be sealed off.

Also, the meeting place from the seventh movie is brought back (it's the place where Pterano was given his pronouncement of banishment.)

It was a very good episode.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: pokeplayer984 on March 19, 2007, 10:22:17 AM
Those of us who watched today's US episode, got to see "The Hidden Canyon"; an episode that action9000 had missed recording apparently.

It seems that this Hidden Canyon was the very secret of how Sharpteeth couldn't get in and leafeaters could.  This very canyon holds a lot of treesweet trees.  These perticular ones though grow a special fruit that lets off a scent that can make sharpteeth sick.  Not even the toughest and meanest sharpteeth want to get sick, so they stay away from it.

However, since the gang, as well as Ruby and Chomper, took a completely different route to get in, they hadn't known about this way in until now.  The grownups had apparently known and kept it a secret.

However, when the gang had stumbled upon this hidden canyon and found all these treesweets, the original gang of five just ate them as if they were the sweetest candy in the world.  However, they hold the same concequence of eating too much candy.  Basically, the gang had eaten so much, they didn't have room for the green food that helps them grow strong.

This also led to another concequence.  Because the gang ate so much, Screech and Thud were able to get in.  This even led to Red Claw nearly getting in.  Because of this, they had to block the one secret passage that every grownup seemed to know about.

At least the secret was finally revealed.

Anyways, if action9000 is reading this, expect the newest songs tomorrow. :)
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: novaflare on March 19, 2007, 10:23:08 AM
I agree very well done lots of action. Again they are showing that they are on a track towards the first films style. They really smacked the fast biters around this time to.
Im really glad they are putting a fair bit of action in the series. I was really worried about it when i first heard about the series. All the land before times had a good dose of action that i was worried would not come through in the series but they are doing it well.
Almost half of todays ep was fight scenes with the fast biters and red claw.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Threehorn on March 19, 2007, 10:38:10 AM
This one HAVEN'T been aired yet in Canada. so Action9000 wouldn't have this yet. your forgetting one thing that Cartoon Network is airing it every day five times a week while it only once a week in Canada and to the website.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Befo...ime_(TV_series) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Before_Time_(TV_series))

Hidden Canyon is TBA showing that not even been aired yet in Canada. Action9000 missed two repeats that Canada YTV aired and one was that Chopper losing the tooth that was acciently missed cause of the muck up with the system causing the epsiode to go super fast.

But to this story line is sounds great and I wish to see this. I hope they air it in the UK soon on Cartoon Network. hopfully by the time the Movie comes out in 26th of this month. I look forward to seeing HIdden Valley when ACtion9000 can record it from YTV, it might be this Friday's one. who knows. either way I look forward to getting a looking at this one if I can, being in the UK sucks cause of this only being aired in Canada and USA at the moment. I just hope they air it here too... if not I am going to bash some TV advertisers heads in!
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: novaflare on March 19, 2007, 10:50:23 AM
lol threehorn. Has anyy one tried emailing or other wise contacting ytv? (Im almost 100% sure it was ytv he contacted)They gave one guy permision to post real player recordings of beast machines so that those here in the us could get to see season 2. It was never aired here in the us. The guys site went from like 100k hits a month to a few million. All he had to do was leave the comercials inplace.

If they did end up giving some one here permision it could drive the hits up on this site to sky high numbers. Probably to the point of needing to move to a paid host lol. Pow web would be good those insane fellows who offer 300 gig web space with 3 tb bandwidth per month....

Seriously though its worth a shot esp if they decide not to air in the uk. After all ytv and the like are in this buiss to make money and if for what ever reason a show they have rights to is not aired in a country it makes good buiss sense to let some group or site make the episodes available for download legally. Look at it this way for what ever reason a ytv affiliate in the uk doesnt air a given series and then it starts showing up on a web site for download with permision given from their parent company then they will take notice and start to air the show. They will want a peice of that pie they are not gettign to eat :)

It was funny but once beast machines went up for download cartoon net work started airing the episodes as well about 5 eps after it was avail for download.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Noname on March 19, 2007, 02:02:47 PM
I know. They managed to fit in two fights in a 23-minute episode, and they both fit very well. There was one error at one point though; when Ruby and Chomper leave because of the smell (Chomper couldn't stand it and Ruby was supposed to watch him), and we were left with the original five. During the song (another variation of "good times"), we see that Ruby appears at the very end, but the network quickly cuts the show to black for a commercial break. Just a minor error, easily fixed by some editing.

As for the theme of the episode, we can see that gluttony and keeping secrets are bad things, and in general, stories with fruit in them tend to be moral lessons (Adam and Eve, Gilgamesh, The Golden Apples of Discord from Greek Mythology, etc), and the fruit tends to be bad (a forbidden object and/or and object of material desire.)
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: action9000 on March 24, 2007, 11:22:46 PM
action9000 is indeed reading this.  I'll get the lyrics sorted out shortly, I'm just deciding how to organize all the lyrics on the new website design I'm working on in between the demands of life. :P:

Anywho, I have a link for you for this episode:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...2CF6EE136EBC75E (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=52CF6EE136EBC75E)
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Ratiasu on March 25, 2007, 01:46:40 AM
I quite liked this episode, but wished that they had shown more of the Mr. Threehorn vs. Red Claw stand-off. Watching this episode, and remembering the movies, I realized how much Mr. Threehorn has softened up on his racism against longnecks.

Oh! Near the end where Grandpa Longneck says that Mr. Threehorn faced off with Red Claw...did I see a Pachycephalosaurus on the right of the screen?
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: NewOrder on March 25, 2007, 08:50:15 AM
Indeed you did. It's not the first time Pachycephalosaurus appears n lbt, even after lbt 4 and the original's misbehaved ones.

As for the episode. It wasn't doll at all. A couple of fights, although the whole "sharpteeth don't like the smell of tree sweets" was a bit farfetched, granted that some flowers do draw predators away, the way the gang got rid of redclaw was way too easy.

We also find out that they call raptors, fast bitters.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: novaflare on March 25, 2007, 08:09:07 PM
Quote from: action9000,Mar 24 2007 on  11:22 PM
action9000 is indeed reading this.  I'll get the lyrics sorted out shortly, I'm just deciding how to organize all the lyrics on the new website design I'm working on in between the demands of life. :P:

Anywho, I have a link for you for this episode:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...2CF6EE136EBC75E (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=52CF6EE136EBC75E)
OT but action you got your lyric links set to point to a local file vs one hosted on web. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/mysite/Sorts/movietitle.htm

I only mentioned here because you mentioned a redsign so figured best place for a quick heads up reply. No need for a reply.

Back on topic i really consider this one of the best eps to date really. I suppose its a tad far fetched with the tree sweats turning preditory dinos away but there are some smell that wolves dogs etc will turn away from while other non preditors will be atracted to them. So its a bit out there but not by a whole lot.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Highsoar on March 27, 2007, 01:11:10 AM
Darnit! Does anyone know when/if it'll get repeated? I had no idea the series had started yet. What's the usual US airtime and day anyway? I know it's on Cartoon Network but that's about it.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: action9000 on March 27, 2007, 01:19:38 AM
I'm not sure about the cartoon Network's schedule but I recorded the Hidden Canyon episode which just aired last friday in Canada.  It can be downloaded here:
https://www.yousendit.com/signup.php?key=dl...2CF6EE136EBC75E (https://www.yousendit.com/signup.php?key=dl_limit_reach&ldg=%2Ftransfer.php%3Faction%3Ddownload%26ufid%3D52CF6EE136EBC75E)
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Over and Under on March 27, 2007, 03:49:44 AM
yes the series had started  on Cartoon Network  :^.^:  



Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Kor on October 23, 2007, 01:20:13 AM
I liked the episode, though one thing I noticed, though I'm sure many will disagree.  At least half the fault of what happened was due to the adults not telling the kids to eat the tree sweets in the hidden valley.  Expecting kids who are known to explore and adventure to not eventually find it is not to smart.  Though there would be no episode if it happened.  I thing it would have been better if the adults had not known of that location, though how Mr. Thicknose would not have heard of it over his lifetime at least once would be hard to explain.

There are other entrances to the great valley, maybe off topic, but I assumed the adults had some who stood guard and chased off sharpteeth who got to close.  Flyers may have taken turns doing regular patrols at times.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on January 31, 2008, 12:01:41 AM
That'd probably be part of the reason why Red Claw, Screech, and Thud took advantage of this new entrance as soon as it was available, becaus the other passages were constantly on guard. This one didn't need to be since it had the fruit as a smokescreen.

This was the first episode I'd ever seen, since it was available as an extra on the LBT13 DVD. Glad my TV series experience gets to start on such a high note!
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Kor on January 31, 2008, 12:40:08 AM
What did you think of ruby, the pink dino?  

The episode was over all good.  Though one thing most folks miss is that it was not fully the kids' fault, but the grown ups for not telling the kids to not eat those tree sweets in that area. So I'd say the kids only have about half the blame.  Though that is a thing I've seen often in fiction focused on kids is they often overlook when half or part of the blame is on the adults too.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on January 31, 2008, 12:54:42 AM
I liked Ruby as a character, but I didn't see why they added her in. She didn't seem to bring anything new to the stage.

I'm not sure why it's the kids' fault at all! They found some fruit, they ate the fruit, and the grown-ups get mad at them. Seems to me like the adults are to blame for not teaching the kids about the entrance. The kids didn't even know it led to the Mysterious Beyond the first time they found it. In my opinion, the only thing the kids are guilty of is being greedy and wanting to keep the fruit to themselves.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Kor on January 31, 2008, 01:57:26 AM
That is how I see it.  It's the adults who are at the core fault, though the scriptwriters didn't see that.  I've seen it in fiction focused at kids.  Part of why I usually don't read or watch it.  That and the adults are also shown as being incompetent so the kids are the only ones able to do anything.

Ruby is an interesting char, and I like Chomper being present, but seems odd.  You now have a 22 min format and you add in 2 extra characters into the gang.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: rosie on August 06, 2008, 06:10:39 PM
I love that scene where Old REDclaw and Mister threehorn fight. Mister threehorn actually smile evil at Redclaw. I wonder why?The challenge I suppose... It was really the young dinos especially chomper ,who has very good aim for a baby, that defeat redclaw and his friends. I thought the fight was unreal and if old redclaw really want just to get chomper like a lot of episode seems to suggest, he should have just focus on him. :blink: I actually felt sorry when that fruit went into his mouth.It must have been disgusting for him that he had to shred some tears.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Kor on August 06, 2008, 11:29:59 PM
Likely it did taste awful.  Just look at the few times Chomper tried to eat some green food and his reaction.  I think he did so in the 2nd and 5th movies.    Which I guess would mean if any sharptooth needed to eat some medicine to get over an illness, like some nightflowers, it would be a horrid tasting medicine.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Caustizer on March 05, 2009, 07:49:08 PM
One thing I just noticed in this episode...Did you guys watch ruby as they entered the valley and started eating the fruit? They mentioned that Sharpteeth hate the smell so they never come in there, so predictably Chomper was disguised, but in the background Ruby looked disgusted as well even before Chomper said why he hated the fruit.  Not only that, as soon as chomper ran off she followed him citing a need to "guard him" which is an impulse she has never felt before (Chomper has run off on his own dozens of times and she didn't care) leading me to believe she hated the smell of the fruit too but she didn't want to show it.

She is also never shown as actively eating the fruit, which lends credit to my theory that she is more a carnivore then a herbivore and hides her real eating habits.  I suspect that behind the scope of the episodes she eats quite a bit of things she doesn't want the others to know about.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Myrkin on March 05, 2009, 08:24:24 PM
I watched again those scenes and I have to admit, that I believe you're right. Now that I noticed it I am suprised that I didnt notice this earlier...
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Kor on March 05, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
Really?  Wish I had access to that episode to see that.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Caustizer on March 05, 2009, 10:10:41 PM
You can find a good portion of the episodes on You Tube.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Kor on March 05, 2009, 10:53:44 PM
I have all the ones avaliable on the tv series dvd's, which I think lacks 2.  Though I'm probably wrong.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: NaNaNa on March 05, 2009, 11:01:50 PM
I loved Good Times Good Friends on that one. Especially Spike's part. It seemed pretty bluesy to me.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Myrkin on March 06, 2009, 08:19:00 AM
Yes. It's good song, but I think Spike's moving his tail in such way (at begining) was a little...er... weird.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Kor on March 06, 2009, 10:58:17 AM
Maybe he was feeling a bit weird or bad earlier that day and had started to feel better by that time.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: metadude1234 on April 07, 2009, 04:46:02 AM
i know this wasn't intended to be the intention of the fruit but.....it acts as drugs for dinosaur childeren like what the (expletive)?????
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 17, 2012, 03:22:16 AM
I just watced it. Gosh, I know it's for the best, but it's so sad that they can't go back to that paradise they found. Such delicious fruit...makes me hungry for some!

Anyways, if I ever write another fanfic I just might include the hidden canyon in it.  ;)

P.S. Ducky and Spike got stung by killer wasps in movie 6. I often look as the bee sting being the turning point of 2 sides---one side is the innocent days when they didn't know real pain. The other are days that are just as innocent on the outside, but with terrible knowledge within.  :cry
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Malte279 on January 17, 2012, 05:59:06 AM
Quote
P.S. Ducky and Spike got stung by killer wasps in movie 6. I often look as the bee sting being the turning point of 2 sides---one side is the innocent days when they didn't know real pain. The other are days that are just as innocent on the outside, but with terrible knowledge within.
:rolleyes Yeah right, the innocent days in which the worst that could happen would be loosing your parents or have them killed before your eyes before you end up alone in a wilderness in which you could get hit by avalanches, die in swamps or later on by fires and all that. But what are these minor inconveniences compared to the horrors of a BEE STING!!!
Seriously Bruton, you are very paranoic about bee stings.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 17, 2012, 05:14:07 PM
That juicyfruit looked soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
I had some reeeeeeaaaallly gooooood devil's chocolate cake last night and it was pure heaven; that what those juicyfruits would be equivalent to in the LBT world...I wish I could help them find a way to get back but they can't!  :cry

Well Petrie can...maybe his mama and another aduly flyer could fly some over the rock wall? That's a good idea!!  :exactly
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 22, 2012, 03:31:45 PM
Anyways the place looked really good, so sad they ca't gothere annymore  :cry
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: LBTFan13 on January 22, 2012, 10:38:24 PM
Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon,Jan 17 2012 on  02:22 AM
P.S. Ducky and Spike got stung by killer wasps in movie 6. I often look as the bee sting being the turning point of 2 sides---one side is the innocent days when they didn't know real pain. The other are days that are just as innocent on the outside, but with terrible knowledge within.  :cry
I have to say I don't agree with you on this. Technically, the first time they every experienced any kind of pain was when Petrie almost died at the end of the first movie. Ducky in particular took it the hardest because Petrie tried to save her. Not only did her best friend risk his life in the process, but she watched Sharptooth drag him down into the water while falling. If I were Ducky, I would be bawling my eyes out too.

Also, I would put the loss of the water in movie 3 as a more terrible situation before bee stings. In movie 3, it's an average day in the Great Valley but then the water supply vanishes completely, leaving so little left. Sure everything else in the valley is fine, but no water is bad news. In movie 6, she gets stung on her nose, which by the way is never mentioned or shown again after "Bad Luck," and that's it. Now if you still are looking to use something from movie 6, the tornado would be a better example.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 22, 2012, 10:47:01 PM
I mean physical pain. Injuries, of which they've otherwise never suffered
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 24, 2012, 07:34:06 PM
And if you're gonna make an argument against it I guess now is the time
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: DarkHououmon on January 24, 2012, 08:10:35 PM
Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon,Jan 17 2012 on  02:22 AM
P.S. Ducky and Spike got stung by killer wasps in movie 6. I often look as the bee sting being the turning point of 2 sides---one side is the innocent days when they didn't know real pain. The other are days that are just as innocent on the outside, but with terrible knowledge within. :cry
First off, those weren't killer wasps. I don't think the term "killer wasp" or anything remotely like that was mentioned, nor was it indicated. If you mean killer bee, again impossible. Killer bees are hybrids, a combination of the hostile african bees (hostile because of more predators) and honeybees (less aggressive). They were bred like this for cultivation purposes. They didn't exist millions of years ago. If they were killer bees, then Ducky and Spike would have needed to run much further as killer bees, like african bees, will pursue their 'enemies' much further and are more relentless. So many individuals would sting them that there would be a reaction, or worse death.

Second, they experienced pain before the stings. Remember when Ducky hit the water in LBT4 so hard she was knocked out? The water is still a solid matter. Provided it's not that solid, but still solid nonetheless, and it still would have hurt. And it knocked her out and she almost got eaten because of it. That is more severe than a measly sting on the nose. Yes, that is painful, but it's not going to really impact her that much in anyway except make her nose a little sore. The falling and hitting the water hard enough to knock her out? She almost died because of it.

And let's not forget the rock slide they were in. All those rocks smashing up against her, which would have undoubtedly happened, would have been far worse than a sting.

As for Petrie, one other time he got hurt was in the first movie. Actually two times that I can think on top of my head. The first time is when he first appears. He hits the ground so hard that he cracks the ground. Now keep in mind, this is solid rock. It's hard enough that Littlefoot walks on it just fine, and he's heavier than Petrie, who is probably the lightest of the trio here. Yet he flies so fast he hits the ground and it breaks. The pain he would have felt would have been more excruciating than a bee sting, I can tell you that now. You could argue that it was a thin point in the ground, but it is still solid rock and it's probably heavier, or the same weight, as he is.

And the second time would be the fight with Sharptooth. He was snagged by razor sharp teeth, which, even if they didn't cut him, would have caused some amount of pain, and these were bone crushing jaws, not the puny stingers of a bee or wasp. And to add to that, he plunges into the water with Sharptooth and, in an unseen moment, pulls himself free. While we don't see it, there's a chance that he would have hurt himself because of this. Maybe I'm looking too deeply in this, but I'm certain that Petrie felt some pain worse than a bee sting from this, especially since Sharptooth grabbed onto a relatively thin part of his body, which was his wing membrane.

And even if that didn't hurt him, the bits of rock from the fall sure would have. I find it unlikely that he escaped all of these fragments given his location upon hitting the water. While they probably weren't bad enough to knock him out as evidenced by him getting out of the water soon, it still would have caused some pain, and worse than what I'd think a bee sting would do.

I don't really believe a bee sting would have "ruined their childhood" even if it was the first pain they experienced (which is false of course). I got stung when I was a kid, but I didn't go bawling and saying how my life was ruined. A bee sting, and a wasp sting, is just that. It is painful and it is unpleasant. But it's not bad enough that it is mentally scarring. I think Ducky and Petrie treat stings the way I usually see them treated: as minor inconveniences. Yes getting chased by a horde of bees is scary, but from their behavior afterwards, I think it's a safe bet that they took the stings less seriously than you are.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 24, 2012, 08:18:05 PM
Thanks for the explanation.  ;)

I assume the same would hold true for Petrie when he got snagged in the ioplerudon's jaws?
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on February 18, 2012, 02:14:40 AM
But anyways, it's a bit of a hidden gem! I woudn't have guessed from the title that the gang found...a paradise hideout!! Gosh, that place was awesome! Beautiful, with all the juicyfruit they could eat! Everything's better with juicyfruit! It makes the episode  all gorgeous and juicy and sweet and beautiful and tasty!

OK, maybe not if you're Chomper. But mmm...it looked soooooo tasty! I almost would risk getting my hand stuck in a hive of buzzing stingers like in 6 if it meant a taste of that juicyfruit! OK, I said almost.

But what a downer ending!  :( Yes, they suceeded in keeping the sharpteeth from the valley, but they can't go to that place anymore. And it was the best!!!  :cry  :cry


Nonetheless, it's probably one of my faovirte episodes of the series.  ;)
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Kor on February 18, 2012, 02:25:07 AM
At least Petrie, Guido and other flyers and gliders can go there.   The adult flyers could provide supervision.
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on February 18, 2012, 02:52:26 PM
Yeah, I know, but that's not fair 2 everyone else  :cry
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on February 22, 2012, 12:12:27 PM
Hidden Canyon or bust!  :anger
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 27, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
I thought it was interesting how they showed Ducky and Spike going home and their mom just happening to have their favorite treestars ready for them for dinner. Why did they show this happenbing to them? Why not any of the others, such as Petrie?

Also Ducky said "my favorites" when in 5 she said her favorites are "I like the tall grass with the long stems" or something
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: jansenov on April 27, 2012, 12:58:38 PM
Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon, Apr 27 2012 on  06:06 PM
I thought it was interesting how they showed Ducky and Spike going home and their mom just happening to have their favorite treestars ready for them for dinner. Why did they show this happening to them? Why not any of the others, such as Petrie?

Spike is a famous eater. When even Spike can't eat anymore after all the fruit in the Hidden Canyon, then you can be sure that the Gang ate to their hearts' content and then some. With Petrie it just wouldn't have the same effect.

Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon, Apr 27 2012 on  06:06 PM
Also Ducky said "my favorites" when in 5 she said her favorites are "I like the tall grass with the long stems" or something

Treestars have always been her true favourite. Remember when Littlefoot said: "Do you think you can find any treestars around here"? Everybody yelled "Treestars!" in unison. It's obvious what their favourite food is.

Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 27, 2012, 02:39:07 PM
"We made a big mistake" was a great song, kinda hard rock, even though it was kinda sad, but I didn't like after it how the adults were blaming Chomper and Ruby, too, even though they didn't even eat from the place. I like Chomper and Ruby and am disgusted that they unjustly got punished for something they didn't even participate in (namely, the rest of the gang pretty much getting high on the fruits.)

Also why was Ducky of all characters the only one to be unhappy about there not being anymore fruit?
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Ducky123 on May 14, 2014, 04:50:39 PM
This is a lovely episode! :lol:

We have a new game, a new location, and lots of cool scenes. The fight scenes were especially cool since there was actually some combat for a change :lol

Won't go into detail since others have analysed most of the episode already anyway...
Title: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Hypno on August 10, 2017, 03:34:32 PM
A sharptooth fight (2 actually) in one episode? A+ for me. Favorite episode. This is also the first one I had watched and clearly remembered.
Title: Re: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: StardustSoldier on September 19, 2020, 11:29:37 AM
I gotta say, that pinecone soccer game looks like fun. :DD

When they first enter into the hidden canyon, I couldn't help but think of Berry Valley. :p

As for the theme of the episode, we can see that gluttony and keeping secrets are bad things, and in general, stories with fruit in them tend to be moral lessons (Adam and Eve, Gilgamesh, The Golden Apples of Discord from Greek Mythology, etc), and the fruit tends to be bad (a forbidden object and/or and object of material desire.)
Oh, interesting. It's neat to look at it that way and apply it to the episode.

I was a bit let down by the lack of follow-up from "Escape from the Mysterious Beyond" with Thud's development. Even though I figured at the time it would just be a one-off thing, I still think it's something they could have gone further with.

I liked the initial idea of the hidden canyon and the kids having their own secret hideout, and how it turned out to be a surprise entrance for the sharpteeth. There was a good plot setup there. But alas, it kinda fell apart at the end with a climax and resolution that was just too ridiculous. It certainly does not make the villains out to be very threatening or competent. I get that for a light-hearted series, there's only so much the writers could do. But... really? All you need to do to scare off Red Claw and his goons is to just toss some fruits at them?

Then again, I guess it wasn't really any less ridiculous than the other episode where they run off because Spike was covered in mud and smelled bad, but that only further emphasizes the point. Chomper refers to Red Claw as "the biggest and meanest sharptooth of them all," but... eh... I'm just not buying it. :rolleyes

Oh well. Despite that, the episode was entertaining enough that I'll give it a 6/10.

Everything's better with juicyfruit! It makes the episode all gorgeous and juicy and sweet and beautiful and tasty!
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Title: Re: Discuss: The Hidden Canyon
Post by: Sneak on September 19, 2020, 02:20:00 PM
This one, if not "one of favorites", then one of episodes I definitelly liked than was disappointed or felt nothing about them (like many-many episodes of this show).
Mainly because of because of more than one not so bad action scenes, first arrival of Red Claw in valley, and valley residents' teamwork in defending, and well, concept of fruits poisonous for carnivores (not death poison but sickness poison) are pretty interesting to me.