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Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: action9000 on April 28, 2007, 03:03:10 AM
Hey all, here was this week's episode from Canada!
"The Big Longneck Test"
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...145D0BA32FE545D (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=2145D0BA32FE545D)

Discuss it here.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Threehorn on April 28, 2007, 04:43:16 AM
Wow Bron and Shorty makes a return to the screen :) this one was a cool episode indeed. Shorty up to his priding tricks again like the first time we seen him. wonder who will show up next...
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: TheNumberOneShmuck on April 28, 2007, 06:29:40 AM
What?! Bron and Shorty?!

Dammit! Cartoon Network hasn't shown anything new in weeks, and still doesn't have anything up on the schedule >.<
Why didn't they just show one new episode each week, why'd they dump it almost all at once?! Stupid idiots… RAUGH!!! *punches a wall*

Argh… I really don't want to download episodes. I feel terrible enough for downloading all 12 movies, especially the original.


P.S. Sorry (kind of) for the (now moderated) swearing, I'm just really pissed off at the CN >:/
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: NewOrder on April 28, 2007, 07:26:43 AM
Dude it's best that you don't swear again, it's impolite and you must consider that little kids might come here to read this thread.
As for the episode, they've mentioned Bron and Shorty have been in the great valley before. That never happened or at least they've never showed it.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: pokeplayer984 on April 28, 2007, 08:19:07 AM
Shorty and Bron appear, huh?  I was wondering when they would finally show up in the TV Series.

I'll give a review soon.  I'm busy downloading this thing. :)
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Nick22 on April 28, 2007, 10:01:25 AM
Ok, So Ali was not in it? Oh well.. When I see Longneck I assume she's going to be in it..
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: novaflare on April 28, 2007, 10:29:57 AM
*novaflare smacks TheNumberOneShmuck

NO need for the lang here man. But i do how ever agree with the thought. CTN really seems to have pulled another gundamn wing beast machines move with the series. Ive got this ffeeling we will not see another new episode on CTN. This is the same lame thing they did with the one gundam wing series. They showed about 1/2 a season then re ran it over and over and over again then just stopped airing it. If this turns out to be the case i will be creatign a little form to send to ytv their ca affiliate and see if maybe we can get all the current and future eps to place on a site for download comercials intact. They did this with the beast machines for a little site that wasnt little for long. Trying to remember the url ill prob need to dig around my other comp for it. Basically the guy who ran the site had a 1 man operation till he put the beast machiens eps up then he needed lots of help with the site lol.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Noname on April 28, 2007, 10:52:11 AM
Well, this seems to be an omen of things to come. "The time of great growing" will be upon Littlefoot soon? What will this mean for the series? At least it's good to see that the characters will actually grow at some time. The final test was easy; I had guessed it in about 5 seconds; like the Gordium knot, it's a trick test.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Nick22 on April 28, 2007, 10:58:53 AM
I'm guesing that he will have to "grow up' in one form or another.. perhaps that is a hint that his grandparents are old and probably won't be around when  he's grown up? Littlefoot is the last of his herd, remember, he was the only egg to hatch.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: novaflare on April 28, 2007, 11:05:10 AM
Quote from: Noname,Apr 28 2007 on  10:52 AM
Well, this seems to be an omen of things to come. "The time of great growing" will be upon Littlefoot soon? What will this mean for the series? At least it's good to see that the characters will actually grow at some time. The final test was easy; I had guessed it in about 5 seconds; like the Gordium knot, it's a trick test.
Only easy to a out side observer.
If you or i or any one else had to face such a task we would have a hard time with it as well.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Noname on April 28, 2007, 11:06:37 AM
Objectively speaking; those were some bad tests for leadership. First, strength has nothing to do with being a good leader; some of the best leaders in world history were weakened, like Franklin Roosevelt. Second, the intelligence test was far too easy. The third test was also easy, but it did test one good leadership trait, that of judgement. Even with those traits, one can still see a leader going bad. I'm sure that all sorts of bad historical leaders could have passed those tests. A better test would have been asking how Littlefoot would react to difficult situations, such as a drought or a flood, a food shortage, a predator attack, or a fire. Those qualities are what's needed for a leader; moderation, courage, and wisdom. And a system of checks and balances will still be needed.  That, and a respect for all the members in society.

EDIT: The test could have looked like this if it were teaching things practicable to a leader of a herd of dinosaurs:

1. Moderation test: A limited number of leaves are brought out. They have to be shared with others. Let's just assume that Littlefoot's friends are brought out to participate in this test as well, in order to simulate a herd. The simulation would involve a leader having to be moderate, share the limited food with others, and quite possibly, go with less food in order to feed the others. By showing moderation, one won't give in to excess, and thus, will avoid the excesses of tyranny.

2. Courage test: This one is harder to come up with. I suppose that some simulated threat could be given (like the "tar-log" trick we see in the first movie, or a shadow of something that could be frightening, etc.) Anyway, once the simulated threat is brought out, Littlefoot would have to endure it, get past it, and prove to be courageous. This really isn't easy to test without tools or technology...

3. Wisdom test: A series of questions designed to test character. To determine how moral a leader one could be. Some questions could include the question "Is something good because God says it is, or does God say that something is good because it actually is good?" (if the dinosaurs in this series have a conception of God, that is.) This would test whether the potential leader believes in the false maxim "might makes right", which a good leader will NEVER believe in. Another question could be "what is the wisest thing one can say?" This can be answered with "The wisest thing one can say is how little they really know." By admitting how little one
knows, one won't make the mistake of assuming that one knows what one does not know, and will therefore be able to see reality all the more clearly.

Of course, true political virtue cannot be taught; it can only be learned. This is why there is no such thing as a "president's school." The wisest thing to say about political virtue tests (what the tests in the show were), is that they are all insufficient.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: pokeplayer984 on April 28, 2007, 11:28:15 AM
Well, this was an interesting episode to say the least.

I was surprised by how Littlefoot was climbing that near vertical cliff.  I mean, there's hardly any footholds.  Then again, there are some animals of today that can climb near vertical cliffs.  Perhaps longnecks are an evelutionary precident of those animals. :)

I was actually one of the few that was stumped with how to cross the lava pit.  I would've probably never guessed it was a trick test. :P:

Now, as for Shorty... well, I would've probably liked it if it was his first time seeing Chomper.  You know, see how he feels about the idea of being friends with a sharptooth.

Shorty doesn't seem to know much about leading a herd.  You'd think he'd learn so much from being around Bron.

For a second there, I thought Littlefoot might end up being involved in saving Shorty.  Then again, considering the long trail and everything, it would've taking Littlefoot quite some time to make it, and who knows how long Shorty could hold out?

I think you guys can guess what my opinion is on the songs, considering they're remakes and all. :p

Well, expect the lyrics to the songs tomorrow, Action9000.

And congrats to Littlefoot.  I had a feeling you'd pass. B)
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Nick22 on April 28, 2007, 11:36:31 AM
I Think one of the tests should have been creating and leading a herd, since Littlefoot is the last of his herd, he's going to have to start a new one from scratch, either through mating and having children, or bringing in stragglers, like Shorty or Rhette, or a combo of both.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Noname on April 28, 2007, 12:09:01 PM
I wonder what Malte would say about this...
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Nick22 on April 28, 2007, 12:13:37 PM
It would be something that a leader would have to do, and it would be very difficult for Littlefoot , given his age, to pass the test.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Noname on April 28, 2007, 12:16:36 PM
Well, what would leaders of a herd have to concern themselves with?

Perhaps this list will cover it:

- Finding enough food and water for everyone.
- Leading everyone away from danger and towards shelter/safety.
- Resolving disputes amicably.
- Representing his herd in inter-herd diplomacy.
- And perhaps, if the system is hereditary... providing an heir.

None of the tests given in the episode cover any of these.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Nick22 on April 28, 2007, 12:20:44 PM
It is something that Littlefoot will eventually have to deal with...and the tests in the episode weren't that great..
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Noname on April 28, 2007, 12:24:28 PM
Well, the series has fulfilled its two promises; we have seen Ali and we have seen Bron again, as the ends of each movie (IV and X) said that we would.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Nick22 on April 28, 2007, 12:32:25 PM
How about Ali meeting Bron? That would be interesting, to say the least...
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Noname on April 28, 2007, 12:49:11 PM
Or Bron meeting Topsy, or Bron meeting (fighting) Red Claw. We've already seen Topsy and Littlefoot's grandfather fighting Redclaw, Screech and Thud...
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Nick22 on April 28, 2007, 01:03:38 PM
Didn't he meet Topsy in LBT 10? I thought he did?
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: DarkHououmon on April 28, 2007, 07:48:01 PM
No, Bron did not meet Topsy in LBT10. Topsy never left the Great Valley.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: TheNumberOneShmuck on April 28, 2007, 08:41:10 PM
Y'know, if such harsh language is a problem here, you should probably make use of that swear filter feature.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go exercise my First Amendment rights somewhere else.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Noname on April 28, 2007, 11:23:50 PM
First amendment rights only extend as far as the government is concerned, private organizations can still practice censorship; the media does that all the time.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Noname on April 28, 2007, 11:42:32 PM
Did anyone notice that Shorty is essentially a male sauropod version of Cera in many ways? Both are arrogant and mislead others. Also, we learn that Bron and Shorty visited the valley several times before, presumably once every two months or so (i'm just guessing), and presumably took Bron's herd with them.

EDIT: You know what those tests forgot? The most important quality a leader needs to have: responsibility. A responsible leader will be able to be held accountable to his actions and can be counted on to fulfill his duties to his people. To be responsible, one requires moderation in order to accurately guage one's level of responsibility, one needs  courage in order to be responsible when times are hard, and one requires wisdom in order to recognize one's responsibility in the first place.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Ratiasu on April 29, 2007, 03:16:31 AM
I quite liked this episode, and I gotta admit, that last task really had me stumped! It was nice to see Shorty and Bron again. I haven't seen LBT 10 in a while. Did they have new voices? If they did, I certainly liked Shorty's singing voice, and hope that they do not disappear after this episode like Ali seems to have done.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: pokeplayer984 on April 29, 2007, 08:10:49 AM
Okay, I have a theory here for this episode.  Maybe this test was kinda like an entrance exam into a rather tough class.  You would need certian skills, talent and knowledge to get into the class.  Perhaps during "The Time of Great Growing", Littlefoot will learn what it really means to be a leader.  These tests were probably just to get him ready for the real one that will come soon.

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How about Ali meeting Bron? That would be interesting, to say the least...

I wonder what he would say about her relationship with Littlefoot. ;)
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Noname on April 29, 2007, 11:45:40 AM
Sadly, it would appear that those tests were all that will ever be given to him. The series probably doesn't have the time to show any more tests, and it would be simply a repetitve episode to show us what new tests he would be given. In order to be a good leader, he will have to gain experience first. Mind you, experience isn't strictly necessary for a good leader; Harry S. Truman became president after he was a minor state senator from Missouri. First, he was made vice president (normally an unimportant role), and when Franklin Delano Roosevelt died, Truman became president with no experience in any major executive role. That's right, he went from a moderately important state politician in a moderately important state to being the leader of the free world during the largest war the world had ever seen in under a year, and he was a good leader.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Nick22 on April 29, 2007, 12:23:36 PM
Littlefoot has some experience being a leadser, he;s been the "leader' of the gang since day 1.how that will translate remains to be seen.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: F-14 Ace on April 29, 2007, 05:20:07 PM
I think I'd rather take that test than the ACT or SAT! :P: The ACT I'll be taking soon looks like it is going to be a monster. :unsure:
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Tails_155 on May 25, 2007, 05:07:36 PM
I think the mentioning of them 'coming back' simply states that any and all characters (that could,) may have been there more than just what the shows provide records of
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on February 11, 2008, 02:44:19 PM
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I think the mentioning of them 'coming back' simply states that any and all characters (that could,) may have been there more than just what the shows provide records of

That's possible, though I really hope you're wrong (no offense), seeing as how it'd be really depressing to hear, "And they will return someday, but you won't get to see it because it will happen somewhere in between two movies."

That "Big Longneck Test" song was strange. I have to admit, when I heard the Big Water music start playing in the background, I was like, "the heck is he gonna sing about? Big Big Big Big Fire Pit?" I'm not sure I liked the new lyrics. It sounded a bit strained. The rhyme sceme seemed a lackadasical, and Littlefoot kept having to sing "Te-est" as two syllables.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Kor on February 11, 2008, 03:40:44 PM
I liked the episode, though there were some qualities of a good leader that were missed in the test, they had only 20 something minutes so could not cover them all. Also a thing odd is maybe someone could be a bad leader or have no leadership ability when they are Littlefoot's age but by the time they are adults they may have become good potential leaders, but if they failed the first test it seems they never could be.  

It could be Bron and Shorty did visit but nothing much happened, the group just played, didn't wonder off anywhere, no tests, ect.  Though some would like to see an episode like that, it's doubtfult they'd write such an episode.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on February 12, 2008, 01:09:29 AM
Quote from: Kor,Feb 11 2008 on  02:40 PM
Also a thing odd is maybe someone could be a bad leader or have no leadership ability when they are Littlefoot's age but by the time they are adults they may have become good potential leaders, but if they failed the first test it seems they never could be.
That's standardized testing for you, it never seems to work on not standardized people. In high school, one of my friends protested about taking the (rediculously simple, we're talking 5th grade stuff here) High School Exit Exam by filling out the little A/B/C bubbles so they spelled "BLAHBLAHBLAH..." But his essay was so awesome, it was ovious he was one of the smartest kids in the class. They made him take it again, and he used the bubbles to make the Mona Lisa, while writing another amazing essay. It just goes to show that inflexible tests trying to measure something that really isn't measurable just can't work for everyone in the world.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Kor on February 12, 2008, 04:30:07 AM
Very true.  There are also many types of leaders as well.  The test Littlefoot took looks like it would only test a certain type of leader, and not some who is someone who can grow into being a leader in their late teens or early adulthood, nor other types of leaders like someone who is good at coordinating the actions of others, designating who is best at what and should be in charge of that, ect.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Coyote_A on February 12, 2008, 07:35:39 AM
Quote from: LettuceBacon&Tomato,Feb 11 2008 on  09:44 PM
That "Big Longneck Test" song was strange.
Yeah, song was kind of broken. But, a whole test itself was looking strange to me. It doesnt look sensible for me, for dinosaures to have some kind of a "leader test". In that matter, scripters have maked them looks too unrealistic, i think. :huh:
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: LBTDiclonius on January 03, 2011, 10:38:24 PM
I liked the epidoe. I don't know why, it was just kinda nice to see Bron and Shorty come back to the great valley. But those tests were honestly, really...weird. Not to mention the second test had a really weird rhyme. I knew Littlefoot would pass. :D  But that third one, I never expected it to be a trick test. I was trying to guess how he would do it. One of my theories were: "Go around the lake! It's the easiest way! Why don't they do that!" But considering that there might not be a way around the pit I quickly gave up. <_< Hehe, Shorty, trying to prove himself a leader to the gang. :rolleyes: You've got a lot to learn dude.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Salvatore Blackheart on February 17, 2011, 05:26:40 PM
the episode is very funny, i love cera sarcasm in this episode
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: LBTLover1 on October 03, 2011, 09:57:58 PM
i loved how Bron really doesn't care about his son, (well, kinda)

He throws him lava...makes him climb a steep rock formation...and even gets him lost in the woods.  All the while, he didn't even try to save his son.  If Littlefoot did jump onto the rocks, Bron wouldn't have enough time to save him.  It's also cool because the test that brought Littlefoot and the gang to the Great Valley (hint, hint... original movie) DIDN'T COUNT!!
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Petrie85 on October 03, 2011, 10:40:26 PM
I think Bron did care about his son. I mean he did leave and try to find a good home for his family. So He does have a heart.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: LBTFan13 on October 08, 2011, 01:11:04 PM
I wouldn't say Bron is heartless. You have to remember didn't recognize Littlefoot when he first met him, so he more than likely doesn't know about his son's journey to the Great Valley. Sure, Littlefoot may have told him everything while they were in the crater, but it would have happened off screen. Another thing to think about is that the journey to the Great Valley wasn't a test to see if Littlefoot could lead a herd. It was test to see if he had what it takes to survive. He obviously failed as a leader because the group end up abandoning him. Sure they all found the valley in the end, but still a true leader would have kept the group together at all times and listened to the input of his/her group members.

Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Petrie85 on October 08, 2011, 05:32:18 PM
And Bron did say he wanted a better home for his son. So he did find one but found other little long necks to take care of. So he didn't really abandon his son those other long necks where lonely so Bron Stayed and took care of them.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: EggStealerGirl on August 27, 2012, 01:12:30 AM
Quote from: LBTLover1,Oct 3 2011 on  08:57 PM
It's also cool because the test that brought Littlefoot and the gang to the Great Valley (hint, hint... original movie) DIDN'T COUNT!!
I thought that should've been qualified enough to be a destined herd leader. Why wasn't it? Littlefoot, or his friends could've just told Bron, couldn't they?

Really, this episode wasn't my favorite of the series...
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Ducky123 on July 11, 2013, 09:13:42 AM
This is a good episode if you ask me. It brought Shorty and Bron back and the idea (Littlefoot having to do a kind of test) was better than many episode's ideas. Besides the sub-plot with Shorty 'leading' the Gang was nice. There were some pretty funny scenes, too.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Kor on July 11, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
I did like seeing Bron & Shorty again.  I thought testing a longneck as young as Littefoot didn't really make sense, though I did enjoy seeing those 2 again and also enjoyed the Shorty scenes.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Petrie85 on July 11, 2013, 09:06:18 PM
I did as well even tho Bron wasn't voiced by Sutherland it was still a very good episode. I also liked how Little Foot had to take the test as well. And that he had earn his right of passage instead of just getting it. It was actually not that bad of a episode. I liked  it somewhat and I'd see it again.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: rhombus on April 20, 2014, 12:13:02 AM
I thought that this was one of the better episodes.  I especially liked the fact that we finally got to see more of Bron and Shorty.  There were a few points, however, that I felt could have been done better.  

For one, there should have been some elaboration on the exact function of the Big Longneck Test.  Is it the only test of leadership that a longneck has?  If so, then I would have to agree with many of the previous comments in that the three tests were unsatisfactory for actually testing leadership skills for leading a longneck herd.  If, however, the test was meant to see if the young longneck has the behavior potential to be a good leader then it may be a suitable test.  That is the way that I interpreted it - as sort of an entrance exam to the possibility of being a future leader.  If a longneck did not pass the test then he or she simply would never be considered for leadership.

The other issue I had with the episode was how succinct Shorty's introduction to Chomper was.  I realize that the episodes are rather short, but a small longneck who has been faced with the loss of his family (perhaps from a sharptooth attack) and then has traveled with a herd (whose main threat is from sharpteeth) should have more of a reaction when he finds out that his adopted brother has both a sharptooth and an oviraptor as best friends.

But despite those two issues that I had with the episode, I still rather enjoyed it overall.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Kor on April 20, 2014, 03:07:18 PM
I still find it odd that the test is done on someone as young as Littlefoot.  There may be great leaders who if you look at them as young kids showed no sign of leadership, and vice versa.  Also they seemed to never take into consideration his leading a group to the Great Valley as he did.  

Though as I said before, despite that, it was good and enjoyable to see Shorty & Bron again.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on January 05, 2015, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: Noname,Apr 28 2007 on  11:16 AM
Well, what would leaders of a herd have to concern themselves with?

Perhaps this list will cover it:

- Finding enough food and water for everyone.
- Leading everyone away from danger and towards shelter/safety.
- Resolving disputes amicably.
- Representing his herd in inter-herd diplomacy.
- And perhaps, if the system is hereditary... providing an heir.

None of the tests given in the episode cover any of these.
1.)  Littlefoot was instrumental in part in solving the water issue, both by being willing to help reveal the secret watering hole even when Hyp didn't want to and also his role in helping break the rocks that restored roaring falls later.

2.)  Littlefoot risked his life to his grandfather in the fourth film.

3.)  He is known ton befriend other kinds, even Sharpteeth and Bothteeth.

4.)  He rarely displays bigotry at all and trusts many, though he did see through Pterano.

5.)  He is the one urging the others to keep going in the first film even when they are worn out because he knows they need to keep going.  Also, he saves the others when Cera fails them and even saves Cera too.

6.) He doesn't appear to be power-hungry.


Providing a heir?   He's not even capable of that yet!!!!
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Littlefoot fan 1990 on January 14, 2015, 12:01:32 AM
This was a pretty good episode in my opinion. I like how Bron and Shorty made another appearance since the 10th movie. I also like how Shorty tried to lead Littlefoot's friends on an adventure even though he wasn't a good leader.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on January 14, 2015, 12:17:38 AM
Quote from: LBTFan13,Oct 8 2011 on  11:11 AM
I wouldn't say Bron is heartless. You have to remember didn't recognize Littlefoot when he first met him, so he more than likely doesn't know about his son's journey to the Great Valley. Sure, Littlefoot may have told him everything while they were in the crater, but it would have happened off screen. Another thing to think about is that the journey to the Great Valley wasn't a test to see if Littlefoot could lead a herd. It was test to see if he had what it takes to survive. He obviously failed as a leader because the group end up abandoning him. Sure they all found the valley in the end, but still a true leader would have kept the group together at all times and listened to the input of his/her group members.
1.) Littlefoot was only 5 years old then.

2.)  He was going the right way.  He doesn't have the ability to force the others to go with him.  

3.) It was Cera that was the bad leader.  She thought she was so high and mighty and was so stinking proud, even after being found to be wrong.  She nearly got them killed.  They would have died in fact, had not Littlefoot gone after them!  

A good leader would risk his own neck when his followers get sidetracked and go into danger.  Littlefoot is the opposite of Pterano, and, indeed, Cera.  

I think that, say there was a vicious Sharptooth coming and one of the Gang of Five got tangled in a vine and needed to get out, I could see Littlefoot actually staying there until his friend was freed or them both going down together.  He might tell others to save themselves if he is the one caught in the vine and not to risk themselves to save him, but, if it's a friend in danger, he will do all he can to save them and will not go off to save himself, even if the friend is actually yelling at him to do so.

As for Shorty being afraid of Ruby, why should he be?  The only meat she eats is shells and maybe fish.  It's not like she is having lognneck steak in secret.  

As for Chomper, if you recall, Bron said that he'd been there before.  Shorty likely came too as Bron's adopted son.  If so, he may well have met Chomper before, did an OMG before, and hence gotten it out of him earlier.  :lol

Chomper's eating habits bug him (pun maybe intended) though they shouldn't, as we all know what our friendly neighborhood Sharptooth could be eating, and that part still likely does, even if he's gotten over Chomper, er, somewhat.   Perhaps Shorty is still a bit shy about being around a Sharptooth with no adults around.    Shorty still appears to be kind of a headstrong, kind of Cera-ish.  (Cera is a nice character, but she's hard-headed and that cannot be denied and she can be a bully at times.)

Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: Malte279 on January 14, 2015, 06:59:55 AM
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It was Cera that was the bad leader.
A bit off topic, but I got to say one thing on Cera's behalf there. Cera was not trying to be a leader. She never said anything to actively talk the others out of following Littlefoot and never said anything suggesting for her to be after the "power" of being the leader. All she said and did was based on her conviction that Littlefoot's way was wrong and that she would pick what she believed to be an easier way (which turned out to be wrong of course). When the others followed her it was not because Cera was trying to talk them into anything but just because they too (on their own accord) felt that she was right.
It is kind of funny how on the one hand Cera keeps getting linked to the term bossy, while on the other hand she doesn't actually decide to take the leading role all too often. There are examples in LBT 2 and LBT 6 (when Littlefoot is not around) and there are probably more examples that I don't remember right now, but still it is relatively rare that Cera is actually trying to lead or convince others rather than doing what she personally thinks is right (which is usually just what Littlefoot does).
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on January 14, 2015, 02:19:22 PM
She is kind of bossy, though she's more of a bully.  Not to the extent of Hyp, but certainly kind of like Shorty.  

Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: NewOrder on November 26, 2015, 06:50:52 AM
How come this episode was never released on DVD?
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: bestariana1girl on November 29, 2015, 11:43:42 PM
Personally, I never liked Bron. Sure, he was a great soul. Although, even if he was Littlefoot's father, I don't think it was fair to ask Littlefoot to drop everything and come with him. I cried listening to the song "Bestest Friends" as a kid, it wasn't fair, I felt as if I was being separated from loved ones too. I felt sorry for Littlefoot. I don't think Bron cared really either.
Title: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: NewOrder on November 30, 2015, 07:54:08 AM
It’s funny to see you saying “when I was a kid”. I was already in my twenty/twenty one when I watched LBT X :p

Bestest Friends is one of my favourite LBT songs of all time, I love its emotional weight. It’s not out of character for Bron, or any other parent to want their long lost son to come live with them, however, Littlefoot ended up making the right choice. His place was in the Great Valley, that was his home. I still believe that LBT X was a great wasted opportunity to bring back Ali in a proper way. You could’ve had both story lines, Ali and Bron, without making too much damage to the plot. Still, it’s one of the best sequels.

Do you think this episode will be released with the new movie?
Title: Re: Discuss: The Big Longneck Test
Post by: StardustSoldier on October 12, 2020, 05:54:39 PM
You know, after seeing this episode, another thing that bugs me about "The Amazing Threehorn Girl" in hindsight is that everyone got all mad at Cera for lying. But here, Shorty is discovered to be a liar and everyone just laughs it off? What gives?
:facepalm

But thankfully, this episode is otherwise pretty good.

I think you guys can guess what my opinion is on the songs, considering they're remakes and all. :p
I can hardly blame ya. The repeated songs has been a gripe of mine as well. Although I do really like "Big Longneck Test" at least. :yes "Adventuring" not so much. :p

For one, there should have been some elaboration on the exact function of the Big Longneck Test.  Is it the only test of leadership that a longneck has?  If so, then I would have to agree with many of the previous comments in that the three tests were unsatisfactory for actually testing leadership skills for leading a longneck herd.
I really like the idea of the tests in themselves. I think the concept was just underdeveloped more than anything. There is definitely more they could have done with it if they'd been able to give it some more focus.

It’s funny to see you saying “when I was a kid”. I was already in my twenty/twenty one when I watched LBT X :p
And I was twenty-nine when I saw it for the first time. :P

Bestest Friends is one of my favourite LBT songs of all time, I love its emotional weight. It’s not out of character for Bron, or any other parent to want their long lost son to come live with them, however, Littlefoot ended up making the right choice. His place was in the Great Valley, that was his home. I still believe that LBT X was a great wasted opportunity to bring back Ali in a proper way. You could’ve had both story lines, Ali and Bron, without making too much damage to the plot. Still, it’s one of the best sequels.
I agree with all of this. ^^

One of the stronger episodes for sure. I give it a 7/10.