The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => LBT Projects => Topic started by: bestariana1girl on November 13, 2013, 12:38:21 PM
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The project is having thegangoffive family/members all come together and make a great ending sequel(movie) to TLBT. Here are our concerns- 1. not enough members 2. we don't have a sort of budget 3. Many of us are pretty busied with their lives anyway... 4. Universal is really strict on copyright. Anyway, to do this we would need pro animators who know how to do the job and write down the people who want to participate. Then Ducky123 and I would assign us and the people who want to participate their parts. By parts I mean what part of the movie they'd be writing. But whatever part you have you must read all the parts. Then we would have to give the movie to thegangoffive animators. Do you think we should do this, or we would get in trouble?
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One way is to change the characters enough so that there could be no being hit with copyright infringement. I'm not copyright expert so I'm not sure what would need to be done. But that is one way to avoid it.
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I don't know if there is a place that is relatively safe from being discovered by people from Universal Studios and co. ... the GoF certainly isn't. Sharing any parts of the movies (which includes even self-produced and animated stuff I'm afraid) is a risk to our community, since somebody might get the idea to erase the GoF from the net due to copyright violation, and is therefore not allowed :(
I therefore suggest not doing the project itself directly on the GoF... though planning and discussion should be fine :)
Kor: Yeah, I agree... Though could we still consider this 'The Land Before Time' then?
Anyway, I will support this idea, if there's a way I could be of help :yes
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I think it would be good if this movie was darker like the first one.
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I personally don't see the difference between a fan film and a fanfic or fanart, and they're allowed. I think copyright laws have something in them concerning fanworks that basically says as much. You would just have to put disclaimers all over it, saying that it is a fanwork, not official, that you're not making money off it and that the LBT is owned by Universal Studios.
When you ever get to that point in production I would volunteer to help animate. :yes First you might want to think about storyboarding, voices, and layouts after you write the story.
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Copyright concerns in case of such a non-profit fan project would be a concern relatively far down the queue I think. Lacking know-how about how to make an actual movie would be further up and way up would be the matter that so far it has not been possible to set up a gang of five meeting in general that would have involved GOF members from both sides of the Atlantic / Pacific. The costs are unfortunately more than most of us can shoulder, the times in which individual members could take for such a meeting without interference from school, college or work all too often don't overlap and there would have to be an agreement on the place to meet and anyone living close to that place would have to take on the organizing work to house a number of GOF members that would still have to be determined. While this thread (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=9491.100) shows the great interest in such a meeting it also reveals the difficulties which are not easy to overcome.
It might not be necessary (though quite desirable) for an actual real life meeting to take place in a time when much of the communication could be done via internet. Nonetheless I think a meeting would be rather important for everyone involved in such a project to actually get to know each other and exchange their views and opinions on what should be in this project.
Even in case we find the know-how (in terms of both knowledge and programs/materials) necessary to make a movie among our members there will be the difficulty of sometimes very different ideas of fans on what should be part of another movie and what should not. A clash of different opinions about the content might discourage participants in such a project if the plans for the content of such a movie do not coincide with their own ideas of another movie. In case of actual movie productions somebody is in charge to accept or decline different plans for the movie and others comply because it is a job they are paid for. In case of such a non-profit project in which everyone would pay (in terms of time, enthusiasm and money) such a "person in charge" approach would likely not work for everyone investing in such a project would want to see the own plans to be (at least partly) realized in the final project. A possible attempt to make "democratic" majority decisions of everyone involved in the project is not very likely to result in a very coherent project (not to mention the additional organizational difficultites).
With all this I do not mean to discourage the project, but these are some of the concerns one would have to think about and to which one needs to find solutions before we would have a chance of getting sued by Universals for any copyright violations with a non-profit fan project.
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Malte brings up a good point. You would have to have a core team of people, and they would have to be dedicated to the project and be willing to compromise with one another. I've been on the ground floor on a lot of independent projects, and the main reason I've seen them abandoned is because the self-proclaimed 'director' disappears or loses interest. Having a creative 'team' at the head would help with that, but as Malte pointed out it might cause contention with other production members who weren't on the 'team,' and the team itself may fall to bickering and inaction. As for the contention, that might be solved by taking a democratic approach to production decisions. The heads would have to have the final say, but an open conversation and suggestion forum surrounding each potential choice might get rid of the bitterness factor that could arise in a more dictatorial system. As for the bickering and inaction... well, that's partly luck of the draw, partly team members being willing to police themselves and each other :p
Also, I happen to be an animator who knows a bit about film production :smile
Are you planning on a feature length sequel? If so, plan on it taking many years to complete, and don't have high expectations as to the quality of the final product. Animation is a labor of love, and it is extremely time consuming. It is also very difficult to find animators who are willing to work for free, and, as you mentioned, most people's lives are very busy. Even a short scene could potentially take an animator months to complete.
I would suggest maybe tackling the project in shorter 'episodes.'
Keep in mind I am not trying to discourage you, either. Just being realistic :D
I think this is a very cool idea, and I would love to contribute if we come together and decide to take it wherever it goes.
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Honestly, now that I see your concerns I agree. Maybe this project just can't be done? I'm 12, can't get sued lol @DarkWolf91 @Malte279 @FreckledOne @BrutontheIguanodon(again) @Ducky123 @Kor
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^I guess so bestariana1girl :unsure:
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@Ducky123 :(
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With all I have said I was not out though to claim for it to be utterly impossible. An approach aiming for shorter stories might have a better chance and inspire more support and enthusiasm allowing for larger scale projects. Furthermore chances are that further programs and technological developments will continue to make movie making easier. In a land before time (aka. when I was young :p) movie making was but the dream of a kid with no possible means to ever get close to realization. Nowadays computer programs have made simple animation a possibility even for an individual.
A major difficulty remains in the maintaining of a lasting enthusiasm of everyone involved while ideal plans for what the individual participants in such a project would want it to be like would definitely vary. For example many participants would likely want to see own fanfiction characters involved or plot ideas included which in the sum of all ideas or characters is not likely to result in a coherent plot. While some people would likely hope for a crossing over of stories also involving elements from other franchises others would probably insist to keep it strictly LBT... (yes most people who have been around know who the later might be :lol).
In any case IF we do have people with the means and the know how on animating (the absolute precondition for such a project) it is something that might be realized if one doesn't start out right away with the aim to produce a full scale epic movie but go for shorter stories first.
The risk of such problems is that they have a tendency to feather out and fall silent when people are too preoccupied with real life. The section about the LBT Audio Play Project testifies to this (and I'm guilty as charged there). A thread in the same section also shows the general enthusiasm (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=4065) for the idea of a fan movie project. If GOF members have the means and the time at their hands I'm convinced that enthusiasm could be channeled into a very interesting project.
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@Malte279 a shorter series makes it a lot easier on everyone! I'm very interested in doing this, it will take a lot of work though. :smile I know we have discussed the copyright situation, that's just really my concern. Someone told me that Universal Studios is very strict on copyright laws (could have been you).
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Oh it can be done, but like all worthwhile thinks in life, it will be extremely difficult ;)
I agree with Malte in that lasting enthusiasm and clashing ideas would probably be the biggest hurdles. I think that we could work through it if we talked things out long enough, and everyone came into it with a willingness to accept the ideas of others and compromise on their own ideas :smile
Like I said, if this is something that there is a lot of interest in going through with, I would be thrilled to contribute. If anyone else is interested in animating, but doesn't have the knowledge or technological means, I would also be willing to mentor in that area :yes
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I wouldn't worry about the copyright too much, either. As long as you aren't selling anything, or providing anything that they sell free of charge, I doubt they'll bother you too much. The most they are likely to do is ask you to remove your created content from circulation.
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@DarkWolf91 Then I guess we just wait for more people to see this thread and tell us if they are willing to contribute or not. :p
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I know I'm most useful as an animator but I have literally zero knowledge of animating :bang Oh well...
I agree that we should start with something short. I full movie would need... years for sure to be completed..
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A short 5 or 10 minutes sounds best. Don't want it to long. Maybe even shorter the first few times, a few minutes at most. Perhaps the first one with just one character or 2.
An audio play may be possible, but that has no animation with it.
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@Ducky123 @Kor 2-3 mins then?
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Well, it's probably best to decide what kind of video you want to make, and then decide the time constraints based on that.
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Also the style of animation, flash like they do in MLP:FIM, flash with less detailed movement, like I recall they did in the BBCI animated dr who online adventures of the 6-8th doctors (& briefly the one that was biefly the official 9th doctor pre new series), cgi, or another style.
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This sounds really interesting!
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So are we going to do this? Maybe we should use something like Skype for faster discussing though that might be difficult due to time zones etc...
I would really like to be of help with the animating, DarkWolf91, but neither do I have any knowledge nor the necessary programs to animate. You offered that, didn't you?
As for the style of animation, I would suggest either doing the easiest way for a start or using the styles used in TLBT.
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Yes, I can put a kind of crash course together. I am going to need to find a program that is both accessible and easy to use for the final compilation of the project, though. I generally use Flash, but it is not cheap. I will try to research more affordable options.
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Sounds good! I agree that buying an expensive program just for a LBT-project won't do the trick. I hope you can discover something... I will be on the look as well :)
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I strongly suggest using a style closest to that used in the movies. It may not be the easiest, but it will look the best. :angel
You really don't need any fancy expensive programs to animate with. If you draw your pictures on paper, or make them in another program, they can be imported to Windows Movie Maker or something. I think most computers come with some basic video editing software installed, so there is no need to buy something else if you just wanted to experiment.
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I agree, the movie should look good :angel
I will check if my computer has such a program later and do I really need to draw everything first? :angel If so, I gotta practise drawing :lol
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While that is true, FreckledOne, it is extremely time consuming to draw everything out on paper and scan it if you don't have an industrial scanner. If you wanted to go the traditional route you would also have to buy, build, or improvise a light box.
You can certainly animate in a regular art program, preferably a program that utilizes layers, and import the still frames into a different program to test them, but it would be extremely difficult to try to edit and compile a multiple shot animation that way. Even a freeware animation program would be more accessible than that, and would probably save a lot of time.
And I have just the thing :smile : http://www.pencil-animation.org/ (http://www.pencil-animation.org/)
I have... actually used this program to animate a T-Rex before. Hmmm, coincidence? :p
That animation is here, if anyone would like to view it: http://kelpgull.deviantart.com/art/Rexrun-302102665 (http://kelpgull.deviantart.com/art/Rexrun-302102665)
Again, I will compile an animation tutorial for anyone who is interested in trying out this amazing, fantastic, wonderful art form :D
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Awesome DarkWolf91! Thanks a bunch :angel
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I will check if my computer has such a program later and do I really need to draw everything first? If so, I gotta practise drawing
Well, strictly speaking, you don't have to be able to draw to animate. Most vector-based shows store all of the pieces of a character in a symbol library, and CGI uses rigged models, it's only if you wanted hand-drawn.
While that is true, FreckledOne, it is extremely time consuming to draw everything out on paper and scan it if you don't have an industrial scanner. If you wanted to go the traditional route you would also have to buy, build, or improvise a light box.
You can certainly animate in a regular art program, preferably a program that utilizes layers, and import the still frames into a different program to test them, but it would be extremely difficult to try to edit and compile a multiple shot animation that way. Even a freeware animation program would be more accessible than that, and would probably save a lot of time.
It does take a little while, but it is doable, and you could also use a digital camera to capture your drawings. For me, the lightbox kind of makes it harder to see what I'm drawing; I just flip through them by hand. I found this really cool turntable clipboard at Goodwill that I use a lot now. You could animate on the go with it! :lol:
And I have just the thing : http://www.pencil-animation.org/ (http://www.pencil-animation.org/)
I have... actually used this program to animate a T-Rex before. Hmmm, coincidence?
That animation is here, if anyone would like to view it: http://kelpgull.deviantart.com/art/Rexrun-302102665 (http://kelpgull.deviantart.com/art/Rexrun-302102665)
That looks promising, but some of the examples they had on the website didn't work. If I didn't already have Flipbook I would try it. Pretty nice T-rex animation, there. :yes I especially like the angle as it runs towards the screen. I also have a small animation, if you would like to see. It's in my other fanart thread here: http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive/i...showtopic=12811 (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=12462) It plays back kinda wonky; you might have to try a few times to get it to play back from the beginning.
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Lol I think before any starts making a movie, they should make an LBT short; akin to what people have for their end-of-uni projects. I mean, if you can't do up to 5 minutes of animation, then why try 73?
Even shorts can have good stories. And if you wanted it really short, you could just involve the gang of five members interacting with each other or some predicament. That would be 1-2 minutes I think.
Or even a song. Remember how much can happen in a song, whether in LBT or a musical like Les Miserables?
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Well, strictly speaking, you don't have to be able to draw to animate. Most vector-based shows store all of the pieces of a character in a symbol library, and CGI uses rigged models, it's only if you wanted hand-drawn.
Well, I tried myself at it today but (as I feared) I failed at the sketch already... I can't transfer the pictures I have in mind onto paper respectively the computer screen. Guess you have to be born with this ability or can I train that?
I wouldn't mind doing it with CGI, I just need a good tutorial and I'll try it :)
Lol I think before any starts making a movie, they should make an LBT short; akin to what people have for their end-of-uni projects. I mean, if you can't do up to 5 minutes of animation, then why try 73?
Even shorts can have good stories. And if you wanted it really short, you could just involve the gang of five members interacting with each other or some predicament. That would be 1-2 minutes I think.
Yep, a short story will be best to get started :) I guess we first need to discuss the movie making itself before considering about possible stories, scenes, etc
Or even a song. Remember how much can happen in a song, whether in LBT or a musical like Les Miserables?
If you (or anybody else for that matter) are able to write a song that is agreed on by many of us, I think it could work as well :)
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Okay everyone! I'm back, so sorry. I have been really sick with a terrible virus. I'm not a good drawer but I will experiment and see what I'm capable of. I'm most likely going to want to help write what happens in it though. The one on deviant art (rexrun) is amazing!! And I bet @Ducky123 is good too! :)
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Well, strictly speaking, you don't have to be able to draw to animate. Most vector-based shows store all of the pieces of a character in a symbol library, and CGI uses rigged models, it's only if you wanted hand-drawn.
It's true, there is a pretty legit freeware program for CGI, too, if we wanted to go that route. I am not particularly in favor of that though... I don't think it would end up looking as good. And if we were to go with a vector based style, we would probably need to somehow acquire a more advanced program for anyone who wanted to participate.
It does take a little while, but it is doable, and you could also use a digital camera to capture your drawings. For me, the lightbox kind of makes it harder to see what I'm drawing; I just flip through them by hand. I found this really cool turntable clipboard at Goodwill that I use a lot now. You could animate on the go with it! :lol:
Yes, if you have a tripod or a suitable stable setup and relatively good lighting you could defintely use a camera. It tends to be harder to keep the drawings in exactly the same place, but it's pretty easy to clean up small errors in the final process.
The only thing a lightbox is super useful for is character continuity, and I would very much recommend one for that. Flipping does work well for most things, though :D
That looks promising, but some of the examples they had on the website didn't work. If I didn't already have Flipbook I would try it. Pretty nice T-rex animation, there. :yes I especially like the angle as it runs towards the screen. I also have a small animation, if you would like to see. It's in my other fanart thread here: http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive/i...showtopic=12811 (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=12462) It plays back kinda wonky; you might have to try a few times to get it to play back from the beginning.
Flipbook looks nice! A bit much for me to spend right now, but I'll have to try it out someday. I liked the animation, too. Very cute :yes
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Well, I tried myself at it today but (as I feared) I failed at the sketch already... I can't transfer the pictures I have in mind onto paper respectively the computer screen. Guess you have to be born with this ability or can I train that?
You can train it. Just keep practicing :) Draw a lot of different things, as often as possible. If you really want to do it, just try your best and don't give up. It takes a long time. I would only do that if you really enjoy it, though. It becomes much harder if you aren't having fun with it :yes
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@DarkWolf91 I think I'm going to leave the animation to the pros xD
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If you want to try it out, it's definitely worth a shot. The main point of this project is to have fun, and to come together as a community to create something :yes
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That's right :)
I'll keep trying to draw then... If I don't get better, I'll leave the animation to those of us who are doing it as their job/hobby anyway :) In that case, I'll provide ideas for the story itself and maybe sketches that those of us who are more skilled in drawing than me can use as a reference... sorta :p
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Okay! @DarkWolf91 @Ducky123
I think we should start getting people together to write the story so the animators know what their animating? Should I make a new topic?
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I agree, we should start thinking about possible storylines. I think we can stick to this topic though a more suitable title would be cool (might get the attention of other members rather if this is called something like 'Making a LBT movie (project) ) :) Admins :wave
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@Ducky123 how do you change a topic name? :)
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@Ducky123 how do you change a topic name? :)
I'm not Ducky but I hope Ducky doesn't mind if I answer. I think only an admin can change a topic title. You can ask one by say pm, or IM if you talk to any on IM and ask one if they wouldn't mind doing that. One like Mumbling, Malte, Nick (though he is out of town or soon well be), Petrie, Littlefoot1616.
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@Kor Thx! :)
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@Kor @Ducky123 I messaged Mumbling and they changed the name!
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That is great. I figured it would be pretty fast.
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So... any ideas? :unsure:
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when film be raedy? I want seeing it on this week end. thanks you & good lucky to animaators of projekt. :)
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Well, we haven't even started... making a full movie would need years since we aren't proffesional animators. Our plan is to do a scene of maybe two or three minutes in lenght.
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I am still working on the little animation treatise, things have just been a bit hectic with the holidays and all :smile
It would be best for us to start generating story ideas for this first, anyways :p
I guess we will have to agree on a way to organize some sort of discussion on the topic.
I would like to make a suggestion. As Malte said, people coming into the project with their own fan characters in mind might cause a conflict of interests. It might be better if the only fan characters we use in this are ones that we create together for use in the project, in the interest of furthering the story. It might help to ease people away from some preconceptions that could end up stalling things throughout the process. Just a thought :yes
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Yeah, no fancharacters. Malte suggested a really interesting idea... There are audiobooks of LBT stories (I haven't listened to all of them yet) and they are not related to any of the existing movies (those I listened to yet, that is) so why not using them :) Only problem is they're in German so either Malte or I woiuld need to translate what they are saying (Malte would be better of course but I'm more likely to do it relatively fast). Anyone in favor of this?
Oh, and good that you're working on the animation treatise :yes
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Sounds good to me! It keeps things simple :smile
I guess we'll just have to decide on which one to attempt to do first :D
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Alright, here's my summary of the first audiobook, The Big Adventure
1. The big adventure:
Song: The Lone Dinosaur
Scene Littlefoot + Grandparents: Littlefoot wants to go playing, Grandparents remind him to be at home in time and to be careful.
Littlefoot is walking to his friends, narrator claiming that Littlefoot is annoyed by the overprotectiveness of his grandparents.
Gang is playing in a pile of treestars. They wanna go on an adventure, Littlefoot knows a possible way to the Mysterious Beyond (on the other side of the big, gravelly mountain)
Objections but they decide to go.
They spot a "tiny, green stick that crawls across the ground"
It turns out it is a caterpillar by the name "Harry", grumpy and afraid of Ducky's big feet and Spike's tummy. Leaves.
Gang starts their actual adventure, Littlefoot being in the lead and not certain about the veracity of his statement (knowing a way out of the Valley).
The Gang climbs the mountain. Intermediate destination is a "bubbling spring".
Arriving there, Ducky wants to bath whereas everybody else is exhausted, taking a break.
Ducky has fun playing with bubbles --> lack of understanding from the Gang (Cera in particular).
Spike is asleep.
Ducky gets locked in a bubble, screaming for help which is not noticed at first.
Cluelessness at first, Littlefoot suggests that Petrie should pop the bubble since they can't reach it from the land.
Petrie rises into the air and pops the bubble successfully --> Ducky is very thankful.
Gang relieved, Petrie pops all the other bubbles in the meantime so they wouldn't lock his friend again. Gang tell him that they are getting up anyway so he returns to them.
Gang continues their climb, ranting about their parents' objections. In the course of the conversation, Ducky states that, if she had been already grown-up, she would have freed herself on her own.
Littlefoot tells them that after the next bend there would be "dangerous ravines" --> Petrie is afraid and Ducky asks if they would encounter any bubbles on their way.
Cera balances on a precipise. Gangs utters warnings but Cera doesn't listen --> looses her footing clinging to the edge.
Littlefoot, under help of Ducky, rescues Cera. Cera admits her fault, being under fire from Petrie and Ducky.
Littlefoot is proud of the fact that he and his friends managed some small adventures without any help from the grown-ups.
Gang passes the ravines, now passing the Thundering Waterfalls. Littlefoot's aim is the big, flattened rock on its top --> considered the highest place of the world --> they hope that there would be a path leading into the Mysterious Beyond.
Being on the top, they crawl to the edge and admire the sight. Unfortunately, it is getting dark already so they have to go back home.
Sharptooth growling in the distance
Gang thinks Littlefoot's tummy is the cause.
Littlefoot objects. They soon realise it had to be a Sharptooth. The Gang is scared and they are trying to find an escape path prior to being spotted by the raptor.
Littlefoot states that he had convinced them of following him so he would get them out as well. Spots a possible hideout, a small crevice.
Cera wants to fight the raptor but the others assure her that she can't beat a fully-grown Sharptooth.
The Gang run to the crevice and try to squeeze through which isn't a problem for Ducky at all.
They spot a path and run for it.
The Great Valley gets closer and closer but Ducky is exhausted.
They arrive at the tall trees plopping to the ground under one of the trees.
Spike falls asleep immediately.
The Gang talk about their adventure. Cera claims that she wasn't afraid and Littlefoot mentions that they wouldn't have fit through the crevice if they had been grown up and they finally admit that their folks are right in the point that the Mysterious Beyond is still too dangerous for them.
Eventually they wake up Spike (almost impossible) and head to their nests.
Narrator doing the epilogue.
Alright! What do you think? Should I post the other five audiobooks first or should I do a proper translation of this one first?
EDIT: Fixed the little mistake :) Thanks for letting me know, jansenov.
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I heard of Harry the caterpillar (yet more awkwardness when Chomper appears). The only thing that sounded really wrong in your translation was "resurrecting". You should change that to "getting up".
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Very cool! I like it, it looks like it will be a lot of fun :D
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Great! :yes
So we'll try that... scene by scene I suppose. I'll try to translate the dialogue as good as I can (story format will work best I reckon). Might take me a while though, but I'll try to get it done asap :)
BTW: Who's particating? If I'm not mistaken, we got:- Ducky123
- DarkWolf91
- FreckledOne
- bestariana1girl
- anybody else I missed?
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@Ducky123 OMG I'M SO SORRY!!!! I HAVE HAD SO MUCH SCHOOL TO DO X_X I'm never going to leave, don't worry. I would like to participate still?
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Sure thing, school's a real pain on my end too *SIGH*
I'm working on the translation... hope to have it done soon
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@Ducky123 Phew, lol. What should I do to help :)? I'm terrible at drawing.... but I could help write the script!?
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At the moment, I don't think you could do anything... As soon as I have finished translating the dialogue of the audio book, you can help discuss if we should keep it the way it is or do little changes (or come up with a completely new plot).
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@Ducky123 My family doesn't have the artist jeans... I feel bad lol. Once we get that settled then we an discuss what I can do xD
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@Ducky123 how is it going?
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Well, seems like your busy. Good luck with the translation! :goodluck
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The Gang of Five does not work like a chatbox. People come on the forum when they have free time and will reply to your post when they see it. Making 3 posts within 3 hours is not going to help that, because people cannot be on the gang of five 24/7. Next time, please refrain from posting several times in a row and use the 'Edit' button on the top right of your post instead to add information.
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^I agree.
I can't work on my many projects (including this one) the whole day. I need to be motivated which I often am not due to long school days. I'll need a week, at least. Need to translate about 25 minutes of dialogue after all and see that it fits the German dialogue somehow (which isn't always easy), also need to make sure my translation doesn't have mistakes, spelling- and grammar-wise.
I won't disappoint you, don't worry ;)
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Okay :) oh hey! When we have the story figured, we are going to need voices right!?
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You got it :yes Once everybody has agreed on a final script of the dialogue, we need to do voice acting. Then, we can start animating.
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:) Then I so want to play a role :D!!!
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Wouldn't an animatic or slideshow story be a better idea? Similar to some of the Berenstain Bears videos. Sounds and music (audio track) with artworks that move at different times (and probably have various effects).
Not that I'm volunteering but I mean budget and time-wise for everyone lol..
EDIT: vs. a movie. Unless you guys are just doing an audiobook? I dunno I didn't read it all :lol
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We're *trying* to do a movie-like animation of a German audiobook (and I'm the one slowing it down, :bang)
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It's okay! No rush :)
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No worries! I am sure we all have pesky life things getting in the way :smile
I am still working on that animation post, too :p
Ludichris1, we are doing more of a shorter episode than any kind of lengthy movie. It is mostly just a fun project, and I don't think we are budgeting or putting time constraints on it :D
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Now that I have AT LEAST half of the audio play translated, I thought it should post what I got so far so we can start working with that :)
Notes: Sometimes I have to change the original meaning a bit because, especially in Ducky's case, they didn't pay much attention to speech patterns... Mind you, the speaker of Lala (Teletubbies) is voicing Ducky in this audio play.
At some spots, I wasn't sure which word would be the better choice so I wrote all that would fit in my view. You may help me to filter out the weaker ones and correct any grammatical or wording mistakes. At some spots, the wording may seem a little odd because I tried to stick to the original choice of words wherever it was possible - and the original choice of words is occasionally really odd :lol
*Ducky (very happy): Cool, cool, cool! Yaaaaaaay! (jumps into the spring)
from this moment on, Ducky keeps giggling, and gabbering in the background which I suggest to ignore
*her voice is indistinct due to being caught in a bubbly bubble (we probably either have to ignore that as well or use a sound program that can do this)
*Ducky cries for help in the background
*Petrie pops bubbles, popping sound
The Great Adventure
Song: The Lone Dinosaur (to be ignored for it has no real importance for the story at all...)
Scene: The Great Valley, nesting place of the Longnecks. Background noices.
Littlefoot: May I go play, Grandma?
Grandma: Of course you may, Littlefoot. But you must promise not to wander too far.
Grandpa: And when the Bright Circle touches the ground, you must have returned to the nest.
Littlefoot (sighing): Grandpa, I'm not a tiny/little Longneck anymore... I'm already big/grown-up and I can take care of myself!
Grandma: That may be true, Littlefoot, but we are worried when you wander off so f.. (getting interrupted by Littlefoot)
Littlefoot (being a little annoyed): Oh/So? Cera, Ducky, Petrie and Spike are always with me... What could possibly go wrong?
Grandpa: You could accidently get to/wander into the Mysterious Beyond.
Grandma: Or fall into a canyon...
Grandpa: Or... (Littlefoot interrupts)
Littlefoot: No/Nah/Never, we'll be careful, don't worry. Seeya! (runs off)
Grandparents: *Sigh*
Grandma: Those kids... (both at the same time)
Grandpa: Yeah... (both at the same time)
Narrator (Littlefoot is walking): Littlefoot headed out to see his friends Cera, Ducky, Petrie and Spike who were already awaiting him. He was a bit angry at/annoyed of his grandparents for they really didn't seem to have any confidence/trust in him. They continously warned him not to go too far from home and to be back before the Bright Circle touches the ground. No, that was too much of a good thing... Littlefoot discovered his friends who were playing in a pile of treestars (laughter of the Gang)
Littlefoot: There you are... Yoohoo! It's me.
Cera: Where have you been?
Ducky: Yes, we have been waiting for you, oh yes, yes, yes.
Petrie: Me not been waiting, me been playing in treestars.
Spike: *affirmative grunts*
Littlefoot: I really wanted to come earlier but my grandparents have had more warnings for me than there are treestars on a tree.
Cera: Terrible...
Littlefoot: I'd really like to have a real, great adventure. I'm already big/old enough for that.
Cera: Oh yeah! I'd so love to chase a Sharptooth! Just a bit...
Littlefoot: Nah, only kids do that. Shall I tell you a secret?
All: Yes/Yeah! (Spike does affirmative grunts again)
Littlefoot: I believe to know a path that leads to the Mysterious Beyond.
All: What!? (Spike grunting in a surprised way)
Littlefoot: That's right, it's likely that the path is on the other side of the big, rocky mountain.
Petrie: Ohh, we not allowed to go there...
Ducky: Nope, nope, nope, we are not.
Cera (annoyed): Pah! What d'ya mean with 'we're not allowed to go there'?! I'm Cera, a threehorn, and a threehorn doesn't allow others to boss 'em around!
Petrie: And me Petrie, a... erm... a flyer, and Petrie scared of Mysterious Beyond. What you say, Ducky?
Ducky: I do not know, no, I really do not know, nope, nope, nope... What do you think, Spike?
Spike: *affirmative grunts*
Littlefoot: You heard him, Spike doesn't mind. Besides, you don't have to be afraid because you're under the protection of a longneck.
Cera: Pah! If you ask me... (surprised) hey, look!
Petrie (astonished): Ohh...
Cera: A small, green stick that crawls across the ground...
Petrie: Uii...
Littlefoot: Oh..
Petrie: Me never seen anything like that before. It funny.
Ducky (laughs): Hahahaha, lookie! It shortens and then it becomes long and flat, it does, it does. Hehehe.
Cera: Who are you?
Harry: I'm Harry, a caterpillar, and if you step on me with your big feet I will avenge that!
Cera: What?
Spike: *excited sounds*
Harry: And if your friend has the intention to eat me, I'll show him! grr!
Littlefoot: Spike would never do such a thing, Harry.
Spike: *makes eating sounds*
Harry: So? So why is he making those eating sounds, eh?
Littlefoot: Well, because he's always hungry. If Spike could, he'd only eat and sleep all day.
Harry: That's what he looks like! No thanks, I prefer to escape/flee to safety! (crawls away)
(few seconds break, the Gang is probably watching his departure)
Ducky: Now he is gone, he is, he is.
Spike (simultanious to Ducky): *sighs sadly*
Petrie: That funny thing.
Cera: So, what about our big, real adventure? If we stay here standing around any longer, the Bright Circle will touch the ground soon and the darkness will arrive at the valley.
Littlefoot: Right, we couldn't have an adventure anymore since... we wouldn't see anything... Alright, follow me! Let's have a new adventure! (all start running)
(laughter)
Ducky: Oh great!
Petrie: Me not so sure...
Narrator: The five friends set off, lead by Littlefoot. Littlefoot wasn't perfectly sure whether or not the small path he was talking about actually lead to the Mysterious Beyond, but he at least assumed it would. That way he directly marched towards the big, rocky mountain and began to climb up. Cera, Ducky, Petrie and Spike followed him.
Gang: *panting*
Littlefoot (exhausted): See, we're almost at the bubbling spring...
Cera (exhausted): *pants* I hope this is not what you call an adventure...
Ducky (happy, excited): Ohh, a bubbling spring! I want to have a swim, yep, yep, yep!
Littlefoot (exhausted): Alright... then let's take a break here. We rest, and you can have a swim...
*Ducky (very happy): Cool, cool, cool! Yaaaaaaay! (jumps into the spring)
Cera: I didn't imagine this climb to be that hard.
Ducky: *giggles for about 5 seconds* Ohh, this is sooo funny. Do you see the big bubbly bubbles? Ohh, this is fun!
Petrie (worried): You gotta be careful, Ducky! Some bubbly bubbles be pretty, pretty big...
Ducky: Do not worry Petrie, do not worry. I am a swimmer, yep, yep, yep. *giggles*
Cera: I really don't get what's supposed to be so funny... It ain't that different from our watering hole we usually go to to swim, right Spike? Spike?!
Spike: *snoring*
Littlefoot: *chuckles simultanious to Cera*
Cera: Unbelievable... he fell asleep right away.
Petrie: What else he should do? There not much to eat here so Spike snoring.
Ducky *: Help! I want to get out of here! I am locked, I am! A bubbly bubble has locked me, it has!
*Ducky (simultanious to Littlefoot): Help!
Littlefoot: Huh?! What?! Ducky???
Cera: Hey, you hear that?
Petrie: Oh no! Poor Ducky locked in bubbly bubble! Help! She not gonna get out by herself!
Cera: Spiiike... wake up!
Spike: *Surprised grunts*
Littlefoot: Ducky is in danger! We gotta help her!
Petrie: There, she in the big bubbly bubble in the middle, ohhhhh noooooooooooo!
Ducky: Help me! Help me to get out!
Cera: Oh no! We can't reach her... the edge/shore is too steep and she isn't close to the edge but a fair bit away!
Littlefoot: I got it! I know how we can save Ducky! Petrie! (Hmm?) You fly over to her and pierce a hole into the bubble
Cera: Good idea. Then Ducky will be free and can swim back to us.
Littlefoot: *agreeing*
Spike: *agreeing grunt*
Petrie: Ohhhh, but Petrie so scared... Bubbly Bubbles are big and they jump so high! Petrie no wanna get caught by bubbly bubble, Littlefoot
Littlefoot: Nah, you won't, Petrie. When a bubbly bubble gets close you just need to fly a little higher.
Petrie: Good, Petrie fly to the rescue. *starts flying* Wait Ducky, me coming. No go away.
Cera (annoyed): What's he talking about? Ducky can't go away!
Littlefoot: I hope Petrie succeeds...
short pause, Petrie is flying towards Ducky.
Petrie: Petrie coming, Ducky. Me pierce bubbly bubble and you can swim to edge, yes.
Petrie: *taking on the bubble* then a popping sound can be heard.
Ducky (relieved): Finally! Thank you very, very much, Petrie! That was terribly kind of you, yep, yep, yep.
Littlefoot: Petrie did it, see!
Cera : Yeah! Ducky's freed. Swim to us, Ducky!
Ducky: *panting*
Littlefoot (relieved): Oh, I'm so happy that you're fine.
Cera: Yeah, we were so worried about you Ducky, we thought... ... *where's Petrie by the way?
Petrie: Petrie here! Me smash bad bubbly bubbles, then they can never catch my good friend Ducky again! *pops more bubble* You, and you, and you me pierce as well. Whoo, and this one, woop, yeeaah, whooooohooohooohh!
All: *laughter*
Cera (amused): Stop it Petrie, there keep coming new bubbly bubbles.
Petrie: Really? Oh right. There already new one where me pierced one. Phew! Petrie not care about stupid bubbly bubbles anymore.
Gang: *chuckles*
Littlefoot: *giggles* Finally... Come on, let's move on!
Ducky: Yes, yes, yes! The real big adventure is still ahead of us, it is!
Spike: *Eating*
Cera (ordering): Spike! Stop eating those tiny treestars! We wanna move on!
Spike: *complains*
Narrator: The five friends continued to climp up the mountain and chatted about the warnings of their parents and grandparents...
Petrie: My mommy always say me should fly high because there might be danger on the ground, but Petrie don't wanna do that. Petrie is scared. Besides, me no think there danger on the ground. My mommy waaaaaaaay too anxious...
Cera: Yeah.. all grown-ups seem to be anxious... but I have planned to become the bravest threehorn in the Great Valley.
Littlefoot: Well, you're already fairly brave if you ask me, Cera... Your dad doesn't set as many rules as my grandparents do though. They act as if I had just hatched! Pah! Yet I'm almost grown-up already!
Ducky: I am not, no, no, no! If I was grown-up already, I certainly would have been able to get out of that stupid bubbly bubble myself, I would have, yes, yes, yes!
Littlefoot (annoyed): Ewwww... Spike! What are you munching on again!?
Spike: *eats noisily and grunts*
Cera: Your appetite is truly impressive...
Littlefoot: So... when we reach the next bend in the path, we need to be careful because the dangerous canyons are there.
Petrie (scared): Ohhh, dangerous canyons??? Petrie no wanna fall into big chasms...
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Woah nice job o.o :!
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Wow! This is going to be great! Sorry I haven't been on since my birthday, really busy lately. Who is going to animate??
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I could only provide rough sketches but no actual animation. I'm drawing whenever I have a chance, time and the right mood but I'm far from drawing without a reference :bang Well, maybe I'll get the hang of it one day...
Anyway, I can't blame anybody for not replying earlier since I haven't started translating the second part of the audio play yet :angel
We'd also need voice acting and we might modify the dialogue slightly...
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No rush! And I can so play a role (voice) for it! I'm thinking then we start asking some animators on TGOF to help? :)
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Phew! Sorry I've been gone so long, I had some weddings and other craziness to get through, but I should be back now :p
The script looks great so far! Seems to me like the next step is to start storyboarding it. We could just have one person do the storyboarding, or we could just give all the animators certain parts of the script and let them go through the process in whatever way they see fit. It really all depends on how you guys want to proceed :yes
Also, I will finish up that informational post for anyone else who's interested in animating but doesn't know a lot about it, really :smile
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I was already wondering if there's any interest in doing this at all :p
With storyboarding, you mean what exactly?
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Yeah, we need more people to help. All I can do really is the recording for voices and give ideas. I'm not an animator.
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Well, I am definitely interested :)
Storyboards are basically key drawings that help the artists decide how to separate and set up scenes and camera shots.
Here is a better explanation:
http://goanimate.com/video-maker-tips/what...o-you-need-one/ (http://goanimate.com/video-maker-tips/what-is-a-storyboard-and-why-do-you-need-one/)
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Okay, thank you!
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Oh yeah, we should definitely do some storyboarding. Though I don't know when I will have enough time to work on them...
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No worries, luckily we don't have a deadline :smile
I can definitely help with the storyboarding, if you'd like :yes
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Sounds good :)
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Here are some possible storyboards for the first scene. Let me know if I got anything wrong, or ifanything should be changed. It is pretty easy to make changes :p
Sorry the image is so small, that's all that photobucket would give me. The original size is much larger. I can always post it somewhere else later, if need be :oops
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/DarkWolf91/GreatAdventureSCN1post.png)
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This is great, DarkWolf91!
I don't know what else to say, I don't have any suggestions as this is pretty close to how I imagined the scene when listening to the audio book. Will you continue with the next scene or shall I try it as I now have a pretty good idea how to do it. Only I have my difficulties with drawing without a reference... Well, I'll give it a try. Might take me a week or two but I'll at least try ;)
Is there anybody else who would like to contribute by working on storyboards?
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Thank you, I am glad it is satisfactory :smile
I am available to storyboard as much as you would like me to, though I would love to see what you come up with! It is always fun to see how other people picture scenes. There is nothing wrong with using a reference, either, I had a few open while I was working on this :yes
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Well, I'll probably try to gather all screenshots I can find of Littlefoot :lol
I'll do the scene from the narrator starting to narrate to the point where Littlefoot discovers the Gang playing in treestars :)
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Cool! I can't wait to see it :smile
Phew, ok, I finished the animation tutorial! Here it is:
http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive/i...showtopic=13597 (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=13239)
:cheers
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I'm sorry but I can't do the storyboard. My freetime is just too short these days :(
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No problem, I will start work on the next scene :)
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Thank you! :)
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Hey! Just wanted to update to say I'm still working at it, I just went through some big life changes, so things have been a bit crazy :p
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It's fine :) My life is crazy too... guess I'll have to get used to that... my final year of school so lotsa stress :p
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OMG I'm back!!!! LOL! So sorry!
Anyway, I'm back! It's hard not being on the source cause it's so much fun!
But I'm not going anywhere now! :DD
I look forward to voice-overing (FABULOUS WORK DARK!), I hope I can voice over as Cera.
And let me just say, I'm sorry I haven't helped with the drawing, I'm really not good at it. But I'm great at voice-overing! I would be great at voice-overing Cera.
Infact, since we seem to be rolling the wheel (terrible at metaphors), I think with voice overing Cera, when we get the animation together into one video I could collect everyone's voice overs. I actually want to make a very detailed sign-up sheet for all the voice overs, I'll mention the animation might be a little while but it's best to have all of the work together so when the animation is done, we can put the voice overs & possibly audio into it and one of us can upload it to Youtube or etc and then post the link on the source.
I will be on everyday now!
I'll start writing it up now :DD
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Here it is-
http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive/i...showtopic=13858 (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=13500)
Did I miss anything?
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Take your time everyone btw, no rush.
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sorry everyone, school & holidays had my hands tied. I am back! :)
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What is the Series project about?
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We're trying to use the plot of a german audio play of the Gang going on an adventure and make a movie out of it though our busy lifes keep us away from working on it right now...
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Are we canceling the project since their will be a LBT 14?
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I think the main problem is that we all are too busy with life to work on this project. At least that's the case for me :(
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True, even if we got the translating done; animation is a long process.
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Truuuue, I have been extraordinarily busy lately, sorry! I am actually still working on the storyboards... just very slowly :oops
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Since we have agreed this project won't be happening, should I delete the website?? Or should I keep it up to view the work we had done?
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If the website is free and doesn't cost you any money, you could keep it. You really don't have to though :)
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This is a great project, too bad it didn't go into its final stages, now with LBT XIV, and a possible continuation of the franchise, it makes less sense to create a farewell episode, but it can still work as fan made project, like the Power Rangers one that went viral last year.
What's the link to the site? I would like to see it before it goes down.
Btw, I'm a video editor and have some work experience with screenwriting and directing for TV. Not with animation though, but if you need any help and if there are still enough of us to get this project on the road, I'm on board.
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Btw, I'm a video editor and have some work experience with screenwriting and directing for TV
Cool!
Do you have an IMDB page?
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Nope, I haven't worked outside of Portugal. I've edited and directed a documentary series about groundbreaking science in Portuguese labs called “ReaÁ„o Espont‚nea” (Spontaenous Reaction) and I’ve directed and co-written a short series called “1+1” for kids, where a group of friends learned about math in our day to day World. They both aired on RTP, our national channel.
After my contract there ended (I was only hired for these two shows and a pilot that never aired) I’ve been working as a graphic designer and as a freelance photographer/editor from time to time. Most of the videos I’ve edited since were either corporate or wedding videos (I hate doing these).
I do have an online portfolio, although I still need to update it. It’s in English so if you want I can pm it to you (it has some personal data so I won’t post it here).
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This is a great project, too bad it didn't go into its final stages, now with LBT XIV, and a possible continuation of the franchise, it makes less sense to create a farewell episode, but it can still work as fan made project, like the Power Rangers one that went viral last year.
What's the link to the site? I would like to see it before it goes down.
Btw, I'm a video editor and have some work experience with screenwriting and directing for TV. Not with animation though, but if you need any help and if there are still enough of us to get this project on the road, I'm on board.
Here it is. http://thegangoffiveseriesprojectupdates.weebly.com (http://thegangoffiveseriesprojectupdates.weebly.com)
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I'm still on board if you guys ever want to pick it back up! This past year has just been crazy for me, but things are finally starting to calm down :lol