The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: action9000 on April 20, 2006, 11:16:15 PM
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Malte and I ended up in a discussion within the Theatrical Release forum regarding the origin of the characters' names. I decided that such information should be within easy reach for the LBT community, so I copied the information into its own topic and added some of my own, in alphabetical order:
The Gang:
Cera - Triceratops
Ducky - While her exact species is still a matter of debate she definitely belongs to the family of the Hadroids, the DUCKbilled dinosaurs.
Littlefoot - Altered from "Thunderfoot". "Thunderfoot" was likely derived from "Thunderfoot Lizard", the meaning of the word "Brontosaurus".
Petrie - most likely supposed to (very vaguely) resemble Pterodactylus.
Spike - SPIKEtail. No refrerence to the scientific name, but obviously to the species.
Other characters:
Archie - Possibly derived from his species name, Archelon.
"Big Daddy" (LBT 11) - Probably not his given name, but a name the audience is given to refer to him by. He is the largest of the tiny dinosaurs, and apparently the father of at least some of the tiny longnecks, hence his name.
Bron - Possibly derived from the obsolete species name, Brontosaurus.
Chomper - A name decided by the Gang in LBT 2. It made sense to them for a sharptooth to have the name "Chomper" as he tended to Chomp at insects soon after birth.
Dil - Most likely from the species Crocodile.
Dinah / Dana - Possibly a simple reference to "Dinosaur"
Doc - Possibly derived from the species name, Diplodocus.
Guido - He's a microraptor gui. The website itself says this; just add "do" to "gui."
Hyp - Probably a reference to Hypsilophodon.
Ichy - Probably a reference to his species name, Ichtyornis.
Lizzie - Possibly a reference to "lizard".
Mo - Might well refer to Opthalmosaurus.
Mr. Clubtail - an Anklyosaurus, a Club-Tailed dinosaur.
Mr. Thicknose - is a Pachyrhinosaurus, which means "thick-nosed lizard".
Mutt - Probably a reference to Muttaburrasaurus.
Nod - Probably a reference to Nodosaurus.
Pat - Possibly derived from the species name, Apatosaurus
Pterano - Certainly refers to Pteranodon (which caused the speculations about Petrie's species as unlike him Pterano looks like a Pteranodon).
Rinkus - there are many pterosaurs that have this termination, "...us". There is one species with a long tail, like Rinkus's that is called rhamphorhynchus.
Rooter - Rooter is a digging dinosaur that 'roots' around (much like a mole)
Ruby - The colour of her skin.
Shorty - Not specifically related to his species. I believe this name is intended to show a symbolic bond between him and Littlefoot.
Sierra - He is possibly of the species "cearadactylus". "Ceara" and "Sierra" sound very similar when spoken.
Skitter (LBT 11) - My best guess is this name was chosen due to his small, quick, "skittery" nature.
Strut - Possibly derived from his species name, Struthiomimus.
Sue - Derived from her species name, Supersaurus
Tickles - A name chosen by Ducky because of his ticklish fur.
Topps / Topsy - A reference to the species, Triceratops.
Tria - The word "Tri" embedded in her name is also a reference to Triceratops.
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Characters with unknown name origins:
Ali - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts?
Ozzie - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts?
Tippy - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts?
Here are some names of the tiny longnecks that were mentioned in the film, who were very minor characters:
Rocky
Dusty
Chatter
If I missed any, let me know :p
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Sierra - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts?
From his looks he might be a cearadactylus (http://members.aol.com/Dinofiles/cear.html). Ceara and Sierra don't sound too different.
Archie - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts? What species is Archie?
I'm positive he is an Archelon (http://www.uhaul.com/supergraphics/turtle/archelon.html) which also explains the name.
Strut - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts?
Almost certainly a reference to Struthiomimus (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struthiomimus).
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I'd hate to think Ozzie got his name from that British dude. :lol:
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Hey, Action, you forgot Lizzie. :)
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Hey, Action, you forgot Lizzie. :)
I realized that about an hour after I turned my computer off for the night :slap
I'll add her to the list now. Good spotting :yes
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Sierra - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts?
From his looks he might be a cearadactylus (http://members.aol.com/Dinofiles/cear.html). Ceara and Sierra don't sound too different.
Archie - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts? What species is Archie?
I'm positive he is an Archelon (http://www.uhaul.com/supergraphics/turtle/archelon.html) which also explains the name.
Strut - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts?
Almost certainly a reference to Struthiomimus (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struthiomimus).
I'll add these changes to the list above. Thank you for the information, Malte. :yes "Struthiomimus" didn't occur to me last night, for whatever reason :bang
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I'd hate to think Ozzie got his name from that British dude.
:lol I don't have any better ideas at this point :P:
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Rinkus - there are many pterosaurs that have this termination, there is one species with a long tale, like Rinkus's that is called Ranphorychus, probably miss-spelled, but something like this
Ozzie - maybe due to his uuzie nature, I don' know just came to me
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I like your thoughts for Rinkus' name. :yes I"ll post it up in the list.
I'm still not too sure about Ozzie's name. This is the best I can come up with so far.
The "O" representes "oviraptor", meaning Egg Thief.
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I just recently had a little thought. Looking at where the names come from...
Tria - TRI cera tops
Cera - tri CERA tops
Topps - tri cera TOPS
Tria + Cera + Topps = triceratops.
Is this a subtle sign that the they will all remain together in future episodes and films, as a complete (like the word above), happy family? I wonder...
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According to the original Hebrew (http://www.babynameguide.com/categoryhebrew.asp?strGender=&strAlpha=O&strCat=Hebrew&strOrder=Name), the name "Ozzie" means "Strong."
My best guess? Ozzie's name indicates that he is the strong leader of the two egg-hunters.
I know, I'm digging pretty deep :p
According to Other Research (http://www.aboutnames.ch/HWA.htm), Ali's name means "Sublime" (meaning, "Majestic and of spiritual worth") and "Lofty" or "Higher".
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I nearly forgot about another character that should be added to the list:
Sue!
I have a theory on her name: It is pronounced *Su*, as in Supersaurus.
I added her to the list above.
(I feel like I'm really spamming this topic, as I have 4 consecutive posts now, and 3 consecutive posts above :lol )
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Okay, I think I've got one.
Dil - Most likely from the species Crocodile.
Well crocs did start existing about 200 million years ago, so they MUST've been around during the time of the dinosaurs. (Sorta makes you wonder what their "menu" was back then.) :lol:
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Dil - Most likely from the species Crocodile.
hmm, LOL :lol
That makes sense B)
I'll add it above
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Concerning the name "Ali": Ali may have just been a name that they just thought up and just changed the spelling from "Ally".
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Concerning the name "Ali": Ali may have just been a name that they just thought up and just changed the spelling from "Ally".
That is possible, however I wonder where the name "Ally" may have came from.
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I've seent he name Alison spelled, Allison. Perhaps Ally is a nickname.
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ali's name could like actions tying Cera together with Tria Tops, have future. Spirtual worth, you say. Well, what provides spiritua worthl? the bond between family and close friends.
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furthermore asa many of the older posters here know I have been a long-time proponent of the idea that Littlefoot and Ali are distant cousins(third or 4th cousins to be precise). So Ali would therefore fall under 'family" to Littlefoot. This would tie back in with the spirtual worth' part of the definition of her name.
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Ali also means "over there" in Portuguese and still I doubt that's the reason they've chosen that name =p
We're all speculating, which is fun, but I think they choose Ali just because it sounded good. It's weird to give human names to dinosaurs, but some times you just run out of ideas. However, I do like that all family and bondage notion, it could work =p
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When I heard Ali's name I thought it would be spelled "Elly" or something like that. I remember when I read the spelling I was quite surprised. Reading "Ali" I would usually think of it as a middle eastern male rather than a girl's name.
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Yup me too, I spent years thinking her name was spelled Elly or Ellie, I even wrote a fanfic with her name misspelled =p Maybe in a weird way it has something to do with her species (Apatosaurus) and since she belongs to a herd of migrating dino's a lot like some midle-eastern tribes, maybe they associated her with them. Who knows, it could just have been that they found the name amusing or something like that
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I've seent he name Alison spelled, Allison. Perhaps Ally is a nickname.
The female name Ali is short for "Alison" or "Allison" probably too; I knew an Alison who went by Ali (though I'm not sure how she spelled her nickname. It may have been Ally or something different).
I found two sites, one for Allison and one for Alison (not the missing L in the second one):
http://www.weddingvendors.com/baby-names/meaning/allison/ (http://www.weddingvendors.com/baby-names/meaning/allison/)
Of German origin, meaning "kind" (which certainly suits Ali!)
http://www.babynamenetwork.com/detail.cfm?...n&gender=Female (http://www.babynamenetwork.com/detail.cfm?name=Alison&gender=Female)
Old English origin, meaning "The Light of the Sun"
Are we getting somewhere? :P: LOL This is a tough one! I don't think we'll ever know if we figured it out or not. Perhaps is there no hidden meaning at all behind her name, but it is fun to try. :wow
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Okay I thought of a really obscure one for Ali's name:
Let's look at the letters: A L I
I see (laugh if you want; I'm laughing too!) a recursive acronym:
Ali
LIttlefoot
by "recursive" I mean that the A in Ali stands for...Ali. It refers to itself. It's a random theory I just though up: Simply, Ali and Littlefoot.
This would also explain a possible future story idea regarding the quote from LBT 4: "Maybe we'll all live together someday" or "indeed see Ali again one day...but that's another story!" :lol
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Rinkus - there are many pterosaurs that have this termination, there is one species with a long tale, like Rinkus's that is called Ranphorychus, probably miss-spelled, but something like this
the correct spelling is rhamphorhynchus
okay I shall be on my way
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Okay I thought of a really obscure one for Ali's name:
Let's look at the letters: A L I
I see (laugh if you want; I'm laughing too!) a recursive acronym:
Ali
LIttlefoot
by "recursive" I mean that the A in Ali stands for...Ali. It refers to itself. It's a random theory I just though up: Simply, Ali and Littlefoot.
This would also explain a possible future story idea regarding the quote from LBT 4: "Maybe we'll all live together someday" or "indeed see Ali again one day...but that's another story!" :lol
Too much analyzation. :lol: I seriously doubt that's where they came up with the name. So what if they chose a name that has no relation to a dinosaur?
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Too much analyzation.
I knew somebody would say that! :p
I figured, hey, I might as well post it. Don't worry; I didn't waste much time coming up with that one. :P:
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You know, I was reviewing Wikipedia on LBT 4 and I came across something about Dil.
As it turns out, according to this, Dil's species is actually Deinosuchus, an extinct prehistoric relative of the crocodile/alligator. I guess Dil's name does come from Crocodile, but I think it should be pointed out that her species is a relative of the crocodile.
*sighs*
Now if only we could figure out Ali and the others. -_-
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Okay, I looked up all possible information on Ali's species on Wikipedia.
Here's something I found:
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Sauropsida
Superorder: Dinosauria
Order: Saurischia
Suborder: Sauropodomorpha
Infraorder: Sauropoda
Family: Diplodocidae
Genus: Apatosaurus
Marsh, 1877
Species
A. ajax
A. excelsus
A. louisae
Synonyms
Brontosaurus Marsh, 1879c
Elosaurus Peterson & Gilmore, 1902
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Okay, can this help us come up with something here? :unsure:
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Well now we have a few new characters with the LBT TV series out. We see a few new names pop up:
Ruby
Screech
Redclaw
I feel that Screech and Redclaw's names are quite obvious, but what about Ruby's? What are your thoughts on Ruby's name?
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Rubys name can probably be traced from her skin color, which is pink (like Tria's and Sue's.) Also, Ruby is an easy to remember name that can be marketable, which is important for this character, as she is the only one in the Gang of Seven that has no previous appearance in the movies. I wonder how she and Chomper will be put into the 13th movie, assuming that they appear in it. So far, we have seen continuity between the 12th movie by the appearances of Tria and Tricia, so I suppose the order of events will be placed by the references to specific events in the past, as well as the release date in the real world. It's important for us to remember that when we see the 12th movie for the first time, those of us who have seen the tv series will actually be looking at past events (from our perspective.) Anyway, that's where Ruby's name comes from; the gemstone, or at least its color.
EDIT: The simplest way to set the internal chronology of the series in relation to any future movies and keep it all consistant would be to have a movie create a new set of conditions (like a new child, a departure, an arrival, or even a death), and to have those conditions appear in the series after a certain point. This would be facilitated best by having a movie appear in between seasons in the tv series. A possible example of this would be: Season 1 has no Ali in it, season 1 ends. Between seasons one and two a movie is released in which Ali could be made to be a permanent member of the valley's population. Season 2 begins, and Ali appears. We will know that everything that has happened in season 2 occured after the movie due to Ali's appearence. This has already happened once before; we know that the series takes place after movie twelve due to the appearance of Tricia. From this point of view, the tv series could be the best thing that ever happened to the movie series, as it encourages plot development and the appearance of new, permanent characters (Tria, Tricia, Ruby, Redclaw, Screech), and reappearances of old characters (Chomper, possibly others in the future.)
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From what Aria told us Ruby was originally meant to be named Ovie. As Ruby is an Oviraptor it is obvious where that original name would have been comming from.
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Who's Screetch?
I agree with Noname, however Guido disappeared after LBT XII and there's no reason for that to happen. In the end he doesn't leave the Valley, in fact he lives with Petrie throughout the movie (sorry for the spoiler) and there is no indication of him leaving.
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But wasn't Guido just a guest in Petrie's home? It says that in a clip on the website(having not seen the movie, I have little way of confirming that fact.) I suppose we could see Guido again in the series; they've got his voice actor (Rob Paulsen) on the show already (as Spike), and it would show some continuity, like showing Tricia, who was also in the 12th movie.
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But wasn't Guido just a guest in Petrie's home? It says that in a clip on the website(having not seen the movie, I have little way of confirming that fact.) I suppose we could see Guido again in the series; they've got his voice actor (Rob Paulsen) on the show already (as Spike), and it would show some continuity, like showing Tricia, who was also in the 12th movie.
Which reminds me, we also need to figure out Guido's name.
Anyone got any ideas? Let's start with what he is. What is he supposed to be anyways? :blink:
EDIT: Oh, and if anyone notices, I finally got myself a sig! :^.^:
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He's a microraptor gui. The website itself says this; just add "do" to "gui."
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Yeah, Guido is a guest, but he has nowhere to go. Besides Petrie's family has grown quite fond of him.
I never saw Guido as a Microraptor, he has a bick, and Microraptors had Dromeosauridae shaped heads. However, that is what's said in the website so we cant argue with that, just another misdrawn dino in the series, not that there ever was a correctly drawn one.
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Ah, thank you for such info on Guido's name. I'm sure action9000 will be around soon to put that in the first post.
Now, I relooked at all the information I got from Ali's species, and I think I found some possiblities.
First one:
Kingdom: Animalia
Okay, see what I bolded there? Who would've guessed it was that?
Now, here's the second possibility:
Family: Diplodocidae
We then take the letters I bolded and mix them up, and we get Ali.
The second one is quite a possibility, based on the fact that Grandpa Longneck called Ali's herd their cusions. Thus, a part of their family.
What do you guys think? ;)
EDIT: OMG! This is my enter Cera rank post! I finally made what I was aiming for! :^.^:
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I'm sure action9000 will be around soon to put that in the first post.
Done B)
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EDIT: OMG! This is my enter Cera rank post! I finally made what I was aiming for!
I sure hope you won't stop posting from now on fearing to advance to Littlefoot level :lol
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Lol, congrats pokeplayer :D
I think Ali's name is just a name, they thought it was cute so they used it.
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EDIT: OMG! This is my enter Cera rank post! I finally made what I was aiming for!
I sure hope you won't stop posting from now on fearing to advance to Littlefoot level :lol
Don't worry, Malte. I'll continue to post. I actually wanted to reach such a level three months ago, but there were certian circumstances that slowed me down. :^.^:
Anyways, what does everyone think about my prediction on Ali's name? Seriously, what does everyone think?
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I think you're looking in the wrong places. If one looks hard enough one will find many padorns in the most unlikely places. However, in this case you have to go by Occam's Razor, "the simplest expanation is often the correct one". I guess they just chose the name Ali because they found it cute, it has nothing to do with Apatosaurus classification.
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Apatosaurus alenquerensis
Apatosaurus amplus
Apatosaurus excelsus
Apatosaurus grandis
Apatosaurus laticollis
Apatosaurus louisae
Apatosaurus minimus
Apatosaurus montanus
Apatosaurus yahnahpin
These are the known Apatosaurus species, two of them have their L's on their second name, I guess this is the most likely explanation, if you want to be all scientifical about it. But I still think it's just a name.
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I don't know whether or not your theory is right NewOrder. I suppose the likelihood depends on the question whether there is somebody who really knows about the scientific names of the dinosaurs determining the names.
However, one point which may support your theory is the very spelling of Ali's name... Well, the spelling of a name must obviously metter in this question :lol
My point is that when I heard Ali's name I expected her to be spelled Ellie (like the mammoth from Ice Age 2). I remember I was surprised about the spelling as written down I would be inclined to identify "Ali" as an oriental male rather than a femal name. I don't know of any female named Ali.
So the spelling of Ali rather than the expected (I don't presume to be the only one who would have expcted a different spelling upone hearing the name) Ellie may be a point in favor of your theory.
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Yeah, I thought her name was spelled Ellie as well. Ali is more of an arabe name, which would fit, since she's from a migrating heard. However, I have seen people using Ali and pronouncing it Ellie, usually as a short form for Allison.
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The Guido thing interested me, I thought he might be an Archaeopteryx (sp?) but really wasn't sure.
As for Ducky, I thought the sing along pinpointed her species...it sad Saurolophus. She does seem to look the part. Though my original guess before that was Parasaurolophus.
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Tricia isn't on the upper list, Redclaw is mentioned but not on the list, there's no debating (well there can always be debating but you hopefully know what I mean) that Tricia is just like Tria, a "tri" name; Redclaw, it's obvious, right?
"As for Ducky, I thought the sing along pinpointed her species...it sad Saurolophus. She does seem to look the part. Though my original guess before that was Parasaurolophus."
yes Saurolophus, and Petrie is called a Pteranodon in the Sing Alongs too, so now the Pterano mystery is solved?
Is it at all wrong to say that Dinah and Dana (More so Dinah) are just references to "dinosaur"?
Rooter is a digging dinosaur that 'roots' around (much like a mole I've been told)
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What about Elise?
Personally I think it might be connected to the fact that she is an Elasmosaurus.
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Sounds right to me. Have we mentioned Rhette?
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With so many longneck characters they may have run out of names based on the type of dinosaur and just had to use other names.
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all names make sence some how. :)
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I read somewhere that Ducky was a saurolophus.
As for Doc, I thought that his name stemmed from the Western theme that Land Before Time VII had. The Lone Dinosuar is obviously based on the Lone Ranger. His being able to do fancy tricks with his tail is akin to gun, or whip tricks. I figured that he was probably named for Doc Holiday.
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I read somewhere that Ducky was a saurolophus.
As for Doc, I thought that his name stemmed from the Western theme that Land Before Time VII had. The Lone Dinosuar is obviously based on the Lone Ranger. His being able to do fancy tricks with his tail is akin to gun, or whip tricks. I figured that he was probably named for Doc Holiday.
Ducky's species has been debated for a while but it is canon that she is a Parasaurolophus.
And your theory about Doc (The Lone Dinosaur) having strong influences from Westerns is further reinforced by the song "The Lone Dinosaur". That song sounds exactly like a Western ballad.
EDIT - (8/7/08 - 22:31): corrected spelling error
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And Doc does sound like a western type of name, and he does fit that subgenre of westerns where a drifter comes into town helps with the problem and leaves & well as his tail being like a whip where he can do many things with it.
As for what Ducky is, if the website and dvd's say she is a certain type then that is cannon, regardless of what anyone else says or thinks, though they can still say they think she looks more like a ... or prefer her as a ....
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Ducky's species has been debated for a while but it is canon that she is a Parasaurolophus.
Not so Serris. There is no real canon on her species as the official information (information provided by official pages or the content of franchise items such as DvD bonus materials and books) differs on species Ducky is ascribed to. Parasaurolophus is mentioned in many but not all of those sources. Moreover Ducky and her parents look different from Parasaurolophus whose crest would have been an expansion of their nose ridge. Parasaurolophuses are shown during the song "Grandma's lullaby" in LBT 4 and they look clearly different from Ducky and her parents. At least one book (don't remember if there were any other sources with that claim) referred to Ducky as an Anatosaurus. That claim can be discarded by the fact that that species didn't have any crest whatsoever. It goes to show however that "official" sources are not necessarily correct (same as sequels are not necessarily coherent :bang). The Saurolophus claim (supported by several sources) seems to be the best compromise on the basis of Ducky's outward appearance in contrast to the Parasaurolophuses of LBT 4.
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I wonder if several Paleontologists have been shown a screenshot of Ducky and her mother and asked, what sort of dino does she look the most like, and get what their opinions were?
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That's a good idea, let's go find some paleontologists. :lol
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The official website states that she is a Parasaurolophus. I'll go with that statement.
Yes, she looks more like a Saurolophus but this is probably a misindentification similar to how the Jurassic Park Velociraptors are actually more likely to be Deinonychus or Utahraptor.
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The official website states that she is a Parasaurolophus.
That is one of several official sources of varying claims and personally I consider the content of the movie's (in this case with regard to the Parasaurolophus in LBT 4) of greater significance than the content of a webpage. That page also claims same as some (but not all) official sources that Petrie was a Pterodactyl while other official sources make him a Pteranodon (which may be more likely considering the fact that unlike Petrie Pterodactyl had no crest).
We will go with that statement.
You can do that, others will have to decide for themselves what they consider more likely.
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That page also claims same as some (but not all) official sources that Petrie was a Pterodactyl while other official sources make him a Pteranodon (which may be more likely considering the fact that unlike Petrie Pterodactyl had no crest).
Pterodactyl is not a species it is an order. In that case Rinkus would also be a Pterodactyl. Petrie is a Pteranodon.
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That official page calls him a Pterodactyl though. The name of the suborder which may be confused with the species Pterodactylus would be Pterodactyloidea. With regard to the oder the term Pterodactyl is often used as a synonym for Pterosaur which covers about every "flyer" and is therefore about as unclear a term as it would be if they referred to Ducky as a "Hadrosaur" (she certainly belongs to that family).
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Did it ever occur to you that they could have just randomly chosen those names?
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It might be the case with some names, but with so many names being an obvious reference to the name of a characters species and with the information that Littlefoot's original name Thunderfoot was changed only because it was perceived as too "intimidating", it doesn't seem likely that any of the names that resembles the name of a species does so by coincidence.
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It does seem that in most cases they do look at the scientific name to get ideas for a character's name. It's a good enough idea instead of trying to make up names from scratch for all the characters.
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i don't know, if this fits, but since this topic is about names, well... I recently read a fanfic (The Great War by Reddragonforce one at fanfiction.net in case you know it) in which littlefoot adapts the name >Alando<. the writer however, says there is a reason for him writing this and gives the tip to search at Wikipedia.
I definitely don't like the change of the name, but I want to know the reason.
Does anyone know?
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I can only guess that this author may suppose Littlefoot to be an Alamosaurus (Alando sounding similar to Alamo). The theory of Littlefoot's being an Alamo- rather than an Apatosaurus is held up by some due to the fact that Alamosaurus was one of the few species of sauropods (longnecks) who still lived at the end of the Cretaceous period, the time that is in which Cera's and Ducky's species existed. Science and the land before time of course don't always mix and one should not take "scientific" discussion of LBT too serious unless one wants to become frustrated.
Views on fanfictions and their content are a matter of continuous debate among LBT fans :p
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i understand and i indeed found out, that i have to switch off logical thinking when it comes to lbt. i just thought it is about something i didn't know INSIDE the lbt universe.
thank you.
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Dinos from different periods being together is pretty common in stories with dinosaurs in them.
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It is not always easy to "switch off" the scientific part of your mind, but so long it is not taken too serious, including scientific elements into LBT discussion can be quite interesting too.
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True, it can be. Having at least some scientific elements & background can enhance certain things.
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for science, it might be like that, though difficult.
i have no specific example, but there were situations in the movies, where i thought:...WHAT? because for someone, who's mind is so full of logic that is really hard.
(some facts can be seen in the trivia of the wikipedia entries of each movie)
no offense to the movies or anyone. just my personal experience.
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i have no specific example, but there were situations in the movies, where i thought:...WHAT? because for someone, who's mind is so full of logic that is really hard.
Here is an example: how about a Tsunami rolling from the coast towards the open sea in LBT 5?
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just to name one, yes. finding out more, would make another movie marathon necessary. but that isn't what's important.
only important thing is the heart.
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Does this topic tell you what the LBT characters' names mean, and do you think we can post information on new characters for the LBT series and you guys come up with the names for them?
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Nope. This thread is about the origin of the names of existing LBT characters. From which species etc. those names have been derived etc. It is not a topic for fanfiction names, which would rather be found in the fanfiction section.
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Nope. This thread is about the origin of the names of existing LBT characters. From which species etc. those names have been derived etc. It is not a topic for fanfiction names, which would rather be found in the fanfiction section.
Sorry :( .
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Nothing to apologize for :)
You asked a question and got an answer. No harm done on any side.
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Nothing to apologize for :)
You asked a question and got an answer. No harm done on any side.
Thank You :wub: .
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In asia Ali is a boy's name.
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When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.
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Ali is only one of two names I believe where the name isn't based on the character's species name. The other is Littefoot. :p
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I see that's cool
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When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.
It could be the writers, or whoever named her, liked the name Ali and either thought it was a female sounding name, could be used with either gender, like some names can be, or didn't care. Using the species name like most folks are does make it easier to come up with a name.
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When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.
I do! :) A friend of my mom is named Ali and she is a maternity assistant. She actually helped me into this world. :yes
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When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.
I do! :) A friend of my mom is named Ali and she is a maternity assistant. She actually helped me into this world. :yes
She help your mum to deliver you?
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The name Ali could refer to how she is a wanderer (bringing to mind the image of Middle Eastern nomads). Just a guess but it makes sense if you think about it.
Littlefoot could just be a joke referring to the size of Sauropods in general.
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I wonder if several Paleontologists have been shown a screenshot of Ducky and her mother and asked, what sort of dino does she look the most like, and get what their opinions were?
That's a good idea, let's go find some paleontologists. :lol
Sorry, I’m not a paleontologist, but all things considered, I’m probably the next best thing. For those of you who haven’t read my introduction in the Welcome Center, I’ve been reading up on dinosaurs and other extinct animals for as long as I can remember, and I take great pleasure in sharing that information.
Anyway, I can tell you for a fact that, regardless of whatever dinosaur the LBT filmmakers might have intended Ducky to be, she most closely resembles a Saurolophus. The combination of the large, broad bill and spike-shaped crest are the distinguishing characteristics. By comparison, Parasaurolophus had a shorter, narrower, less duck-like bill, and even short-crested species such as P. cyrtocristatus had crests that were curved and tubular, rather than straight and pointed. Curiously enough, Saurolophus is less closely related to Parasaurolophus and other crested hadrosaurs (lambeosaurines) than it is to crestless hadrosaurs (hadrosaurines) such as Anatotitan and Edmontosaurus (formerly Trachodon and Anatosaurus, respectively).
I seriously doubt that Ducky was ever originally intended to be a Parasaurolophus, especially since there are Parasaurolophus in the first movie (you don’t have to look as far as LBT IV). Early in the film, Littlefoot’s egg rolls down a dinosaur skeleton that clearly belongs to a Parasaurolophus, and later on, during the earthshake, a couple of living Parasaurolophus can be seen running by.
(http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Pangaean/LBT%20Screenshots/Earthshake.png)
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Something I thought I’d add to my earlier argument for Ducky’s species: it may be possible that Don Bluth and co. did intend for Ducky to be an Anatosaurus, but changed her to look more like a Saurolophus. (It would be very interesting to look at early conceptual artwork of the characters, so we could see how their designs changed from their initial conceptions to what we see in the movie.) Perhaps they added the crest because they thought it gave Ducky more character (I personally find that the crest greatly enhances Ducky’s cuteness :DD), which, of course, they could only do realistically if they made the adults of her species crested as well.
Obviously, we have no idea what sources Don Bluth used when he was researching dinosaurs for The Land Before Time, but when I compare the LBT dinos (the adults, mainly ;)) to the work of paleo-artists like Charles (http://www.charlesrknight.com/AMNH.htm) R. Knight (http://www.charlesrknight.com/FMNH.htm) and Zdenek (http://goldenagecomicbookstories.blogspot.com/2010/06/zdenek-burian-1905-1981-prehistoric.html) Burian (http://allday.ru/2007/11/25/kartiny_pervobytnojj_prirody__zdenek_burian.html), I can't help but notice similarities. These artists set the standard for how dinosaurs were illustrated for much of the 20th century, and their work is prominently featured in older dinosaur books, so the possibility is high that Bluth used their paintings as the basis for many of his prehistoric characters. However, Saurolophus is one dinosaur that does not appear in the works of either of these artists, and indeed is not commonly seen in paleo-art at all. Its (http://www.barlang.hu/pages/science/classics/lambrecht_files/image1242.jpg) uncrested (http://www.charlesrknight.com/Gallery/Knight/Prehistoric/AMNH/Trachodon.jpg) relatives (http://allday.ru/engine/modules/imagepreview.php?image=http://allday.ru/uploads/posts/1195922647_zdenek_burian_28.jpg), however, are virtual staples of prehistoric illustration, and depictions of them were far more likely to have been encountered by Bluth when he was doing his research. As a result, I don't believe it is impossible that the LBT hadrosaurs were based on species such as Anatosaurus and Trachodon, with a saurolophine crest added on for aesthetic appeal.
Of course, I could be completely wrong. The majority of this hypothesis is pure speculation, and maybe Ducky was based on a Saurolophus all along. But it’s an idea I thought I’d throw out there, just in case anyone was interested in hearing it. (Wishful thinking, maybe? :rolleyes)
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Nod Is A Reference To A Nodosaurus?
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^ I suppose so.
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Yep, that's our best guess too and it's already on the list. :)
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Okay, this is just a guess, but...
Do you guys think that the Ozzy we all know could be a reference to Ozzy Osbourne?
It's just a guess. :P:
EDIT: Oh my gosh!
Juliana Hansen - Ali
Could it be? A reference to the original voice actor? :o
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When I heard her name I first thought the spelling would be Elly or somethings like that. Ali indeed is more commonly identified as an oriental male name. I don't think I ever found it used as a female name anywhere but in LBT.
actually the name Ali is commonly used in the USA as a girl name. its like short for Alison or something.
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note: this is only a joke
I bet I know what Rocky's name is a referance to *music starts up in the background* the one the only Rocky Balboa the italian stallion.
again it was a joke so hope you enjoyed that :lol
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Theory I came up with:
Ali
Littlefoot
AliLittlefoot
Alittlefoot
A little foot
Ali completes Littlefoot.
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Hmm...
Anyone want to start thinking up ideas of how Tricia got her name?
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I've never actually heard Tricia's name spoken, but I'm assuming it's pronounced "TRISH-ia".
Tric- = Triceratops
-ia = Added on at the end to make her name resemble a human name (Trisha)?
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I don't know if anyone already know this, but...
Tria + Cera + Topsy = Triceratops
:p
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I don't know if anyone already know this, but...
Tria + Cera + Topsy = Triceratops
:p
LOL RLY?!
ActionWHAT9000?! already posted that.
For shame.
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ActionWHAT9000?! already posted that.
Well I'm too lazy to read the older posts, so I wouldn't know. :nyah:
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Maybe Tippy got his name due to being a spiketail like Spike. Basically when they grow up they will have spikes on them that end with tips :p
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Ooh! ooh! I got one!
I've heard alot of people say that Doc's name comes from "Duke", which was apparently John Wayne's nickname, as well as his species named "DiploDOCus". I'd guess it's a combination of the 2.
And yes, I think Tricia's name is just taking the TRI from TRIceratops and making it sound more like a name.
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Rhett could be a reference to Rhett Butler from Gone With The Wind. Rhett Butler was a very boastful and manipulative character, at least before he got married to Miss Scarlett.
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I'm not sure if this mecessarily means anything, or if it even was deliberate, but Guido's name is, as well as being obviously derived from his species, Microraptor Gui, an American slang term for an Italian immigrant. Now, am I the only person who thinks that Guido has an ever so slight Italian-American accent?
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He is the largest of the tiny dinosaurs, and apparently the father of at least some of the tiny longnecks, hence his name.
Really? I've read on one site that he's the smallest of them. Weird.
I don't know if anyone already know this, but...
Tria + Cera + Topsy = Triceratops
dino_tongue.gif
Yes, MarzGurl pointed that out. :smile
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I knew this already except for the Littlefoot one. That suprised me. Is there any proof that his original name was going to be thunderfoot, however.
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If I missed any, let me know
You missed Tricia, I think
I'd hate to think Ozzie got his name from that British dude.
Now that's a funny idea! :lol
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You all know how Petrie is a fearful character? Even in movie one, he even clutched Littlefoot, immobilized with fear. Well, there is a word that has that definition: petrified. Let's take a close look at that word: PETRIfiEd. Take those capitalized words, and you have Petrie, someone who is often petrified with terror. I can even see him being afraid of things as soon as he was hatched, thus his parents (or just mother) naming him that. I think it's a fairly reasonable speculation.
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Wow, interesting! I never thought of that!
But what do you mean by "even in movie 1"?
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If an attribute did not take place in the first movie, I do not have a leg to stand on when I present a possibly theory for an aspect of a character's creation. If Petrie was scared in all the movies except for the first one, and being as there was not originally a plan to make sequels, my suggestion would not be plausible.
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Very interesting! =) A lot of characters' name origins are fairly obvious, but others are less so. Until reading the list, I had never even heard of Rinkus or Sierras' species. For the most art, I thought some of the characters' names were just randomly chosen and not connected with their species, or much of anything else.
I honestly can't think of any certain connection with Ali's name. It's possible it was just chosen without having been based off of anything.
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Nod Is A Reference To A Nodosaurus?
Yes, it is. I like Hyp, Mutt and Nod in Land Before Time 3. I have never seen Nod's family, Mutt's mother and Hyp's mother. :lol :DD :p :blink: :smile
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Ozzie - Currently unknown origin. Any thoughts?
Just taking a wild guess on this one, but the Struthiomimus is a descendant of the Ostrich, and Ostrich farming is common in Australia. And Ozzy just so happens to be an Australian slang term.
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Well, Pterano I think is Pteranodon.
Ruby's name was going to be "Ovie". However, her name might have something to do with her coloring.
Ali's name is a mystery. (Perhaps she was set to marry and then divorce Littlefoot and the name meant "ALImony". :lol )
Yes, I heard the Thunderfoot thing too.
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Was going to mention that Doc's name may come from his species but see that someone already did, upon closer inspection. I had quoted someone and had replied to it but now see that they mentioned it in the quote.
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Littlefoot was going to be Thuderfoot, but there was already a Triceratops in a book who was named Thunderfoot. So LBT Thunderfoot became Littlefoot.
In movie X, Bron says that he was called Littlefoot as a kid...but that movie was made way after the first one :lol
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Littlefoot: Native American style name like “Sitting Bull”
Cera: Tri(cera)tops
Petrie: from Petra meaning Rock in Aramaic, hence St. Peter the Apostle
Ducky: Duckbill Dinosaur
Spike: Named after the Stegosaurus’ main weapon, spikes on the tail.
Ruby: Rubies, her coloring, rubies are semi-precipus stone that are red and yet give off pink colors too.
Chomper: Named after his distinct Sharptooth bite, to chomp. Thankfully Shingeru Miramoto has not sued over the fact that one of the Super Mario Bros. antagonists is chomper, a large or little black orb with sharp teeth and eyes that is a dog in the Mushroom Kingdom.
Wild Arms: Named for his wild Italiano hand gestures when talking.
Topsy: Mr. Threehorn’s nickname derives from his weakness of being top heavy and falling over and unable to get up. :D
Ali: Apatosaurus Lady-isaur
Pterano: Terror, Tyrant, Pterosaur
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I thought Petrie was called Petrie because hes a pterosaur
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Ali sounds similar to ALamosaurus - another species of Longneck. Perhaps that's a link?
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that could be true
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Yeah.