The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => 1988 Theatrical Release => Topic started by: Megatoph on June 02, 2006, 02:26:07 PM
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I noticed that Littlefoot's mum hasn't revealed her name. I wonder what her name is? what ya'll think?
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Neither do Littlefoot's grandparents or any of the other parents with the only exception of Cera's father. I suppose it is simply because everyone knows who is meant when Littlefoot talks about his mother, his grandma or his grandpa. With the movie being aimed at a younger target audience I suppose they tried not to confuse kids by putting more names in than necessary.
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I guess her name can be Helen since Helen Shaver did her voice. :lol Realistically though, she doesn't have a name.
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She doesn't have a name. After nearly 20 years, if she did have one, I think we'd know it by now.
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That is something I have always wondered about. Wonder why they never tell us in any of the sequels.
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Simply because there is no need I suppose.
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well I need something to work with. also I think it would have been best if she had a name this way we'd know it.
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Just make something up. Thats what I did for my story.
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Aurora sounds like a nice name for her. :D
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or Ellen? or maybe Brandy?
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She doesn't have a name. After nearly 20 years, if she did have one, I think we'd know it by now.
When I read what WeirdRaptor wrote it got me thinking... The land before time has been around for almost 20 years! Can you imagine? So much time has passed since it was released! Do you think there'll be an aniversery issue in 2008? How many films last so long and still mantaine their original mistic?!
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The early Disney one have maintained their magic as much as some of Bluth's early work. :) They'll never grow old.
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As for a name, almost all the characters in LBT (including the maincharacters and the two parents whose names we know) are named after the species they belong to. Of course there is no certainty, but I don't see why Littlefoot's Mum would be an exception. Therefore I consider none of the names suggested very likely. But they are, I suppose, based on the preferences of those who suggested them.
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Got any suggestions then? Just wondering? I can't think of one.
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how about... sue? or... Betty?
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Got any suggestions then? Just wondering? I can't think of one.
Can't really say I have. There are still names that can possibly be made of "Apatosaurus" or the less scientifically correct "Brontosaurus", but many of them sound very made up or silly.
I've kind of grown accustomed to the idea of Littlefoot's mother, and his grandparents going without names in the movies. I will not question the fact that they must have names, but discussing what names they might have we will end up with everybody's individual preferences of names.
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Audray sounds good??? or Alice? or Genifer??
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As I said it's probably mainly a matter of taste. There are very few names in LBT which are accepted human names (e.g. Spike, Sue, Mo), which all seem to be based on the character's spcies. I suppose there would be something similar in case of Littlefoot's mother rather than a very human name. I don't claim to have a good suggestion for her name though. I guess I can live without knowing how to call her other than "Littlefoot's mother".
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I believe you summed this up very well, Malte. This isn't a question that can really be answered, and I feel that many members have accepted her to be referred to simply as "Littlefoot's Mother".
A name may be suitable in the case of a fanfic, however that choice is merely the preference of the writer. If you're looking for critiques on your name choices, Titanosaur, I suppose I would expect a name a little less common than those mentioned in your posts. Then again, I know a female in real-life named Ali, so perhaps this is unfair to say. :p
For the purpose of writing, it all comes down to what message the writer wants the name to express.
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You know, come to think of it, only a few names don't seem to be inspired by the name of the speices at all.
Off the top of my head, the name Ali doesn't seem to come from inspiration of Brontosaurus or Apatosaurus. Makes you wonder how the writers came up with that one.
We could also include Sierra and Rinkus. I doubt their names are inspired by any type of flyer whatsoever.
Same deal with Littlefoot. Doesn't seem to be inspired by the name of species at all.
I'm sure there are at least a few others, but I can't think of them right now. :)
Anyways, Titanosaur, in the end, it's your call. :^.^:
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The meanings of the names Sierra and Rinkus were mentioned here:
http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive/i...p?showtopic=729 (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=613)
though this is, of course, speculation. We still haven't figured out a meaning behind Ali's name.
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Dinah and Dana are two other examples of names with no obvious reference to the species. So is Tipy. As for Littlefoot he was supposed to be named "Thunderfoot" (Brontosaurus=Thunderfootlizard) but that was considered to sound too intimidating for a cute character.
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People in stories on fanfiction used different names for Littlefoot's mother some being Thunderfoot (which shown to be the first thought for Littlefoot's name). That really the one I remembered it was used in a story that had some sort of warrior type style to it where Littlefoot looked more humaniod and some how into the story Littlefoot's mum was brought back to the world of the living completely healthy and named Thunderfoot I think. not totally sure but that seem to be the one that used mostly for her
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Ali was pulled out of a hat of names. :lol:
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I remember I was surprised when I first saw the spelling of the name Ali. To me it looked like a middle eastern male name. I would have expected her to be spelled Elly or something like that. Is Ali in this spelling a common female name?
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To me it looked like a middle eastern male name.
I quite agree. I have heard of Ali as being a common middle-eastern name, either as a first- or surname.
Is Ali in this spelling a common female name?
I don't know quite how common it is, but I personally know a female named Ali, who went to my high school. The name doesn't seem to be extremely common, however.
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tja das w¸rde ich auch mal gerne wiesen wie Littlefoots Grossmutter heisst. Also ich klaube das der Name In der ganzen LBT Reihe nicht vorkommt. Auch die anderen Dinos vom Grossen Tal habe ich noch nie mit dem richtigen Namen gehˆrt.
I would also gladly showed how times LittleFoot grandmother called. So I think the name. Throughout the LBT series does not occur. The other dinosaur on the Great Valley, I have never been with the
correct name belongs.
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Some characters in the LBT world have not been given a name. Littlefoot's mother, and Grandparents. Petrie's mother & siblings, Ducky's parents and Siblings, various background and other characters, Ali's mother, ect.
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I would agrre they weren't given a name to not confuse the younger viewers. Many characters don't have a name, indeed.
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If you really need a name I suggest Patricia or any other female sounding name with Pat..umm...Patti...babynames.com will help in that field.
I agree with the lot here that they dont need names since we all know who they're reffering to, but I added my two cents.
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I don't know what Littlefoot's mother's name is, but I might be able to narrow down a list of criteria for naming these characters...
1. Characters are often named after the species that they are: Sue is a Supersaurus, Pat is an Apatosaurus, and Bron is named after the Brontosaurus, which has since been proven not to exist.
There are exceptions to this, though; "Shorty" is a bit odd, as he is a Braciosaurus, which means "arm lizard." Ali is used here as a female name, such as ALIce or ALIson, not the middle-eastern male name Ali, which may stress the last I...
2. We know that "Littlefoot" is a bit of an odd derivation from "Sauropod" which literally means "lizard foot." Since that would be too odd of a name for the character, it was changed to Littlefoot. We know from the canon of the series that "Littlefoot" was a name that Bron was called when he was young, but it is unclear whether or not that was his real name and it was changed, or if it was simply a nickname in his youth. What is probable, however, is that Bron told this to his mate, and when the egg hatched, she named her son after what his father HAD been named.
3. Littlefoot and his family are Apatosauruses, which literally means "deceptive lizard" because the fossils found were similar to those of a Mosasaurus. It is sort of hard to directly name someone "deceptive", so a similar adjective with fewer negative connotations might be used, or the original Greek stem would be kept and not translated into English; Pterano comes from the Greek root "πτερ" ("Pter") meaning "wing".
4. To clarify the matter a bit, one has to consider that there were various species of Apatosaurus; the name "Apatosaurus" signifies a genus, not a species (from wikipedia.) The four species of Apatosaurus are "A. Ajax" , "A. excelsus" , "A. louisae", "A. Parvus"; which approximately translate respecitvely as "mourner", "to excel (or be good at)", "of Louis (from Ludwig, meaning "famous warrior"), and "small, little, cheap"; in the sense of being not important, not as in physical size.
The first possibility is probably inadequate; Ajax was a male name from the Homeric epic poems (Iliad and Odyssey) and the meaning of that name in no way suites Littlefoot's mother. Excelsus is a bit odd, and doesn't exactly describe her so well. Louisae is totally off... That leaves us with "Parvus"... which I believe to be the best choice for basing her name off of. It makes sense that a mother with a name meaning "small" and a father who WAS named "Littlefoot" (or was at least called that) should have a child with a similar name. Although the meaning of the phrase "small" is shifted in this case (from the meaning "insignificant" to the meaning "small in size"), it still fits the naming conventions well enough.
5. So, assuming that Littlefoot's mother follows that naming convention of most of the characters (named after their species, with modifications here and there), her name might be something like "Parva"; with is "Parvus" being given a feminine "a" at the end. I know that it sounds a bit like "larva", but it might just work...
It might be worth noting that "Parva" does not come up on any online etymology sites...
So, if I HAD to guess at the name of Littlefoot's mother, Parva would be my guess...
Alternatively, a name like "Lightfoot" might be used, in keeping with the theme of "little" (which light is similar to in the sense that something is light if it is not heavy, and little and light usually go together, although this is not always the case.)
"Parva" is probably no weirder than names like "Tria", "Tops" and "Pterano", all of which are names of characters in the series...
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One difficulty in trying to guess her name is her parents are not given personal names. If you have to have a name for her you could make up a nickname, or look at Apatasaurus and see what name seems to jump out at you.
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How does "Bron and Parva" sound?
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We will of course never know for sure, but you certainly put a lot of work into this analysis :yes
There is one minor point where there is some different information:
2. We know that "Littlefoot" is a bit of an odd derivation from "Sauropod" which literally means "lizard foot." Since that would be too odd of a name for the character, it was changed to Littlefoot.
Littlefoot was originally meant to be named "thunderfoot" as another derivation from the non-existent species "Brontosaurus" (thunderfoot lizard). However, it was found that "thunderfoot" was too intimidating a name for so cute a character so it was changed.
There is also one story about how Littlefoot got his name, but it is probably not canon being printed in one German book of LBT only. It is mentioned in another thread (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=193). According to that book Littlefoot's grandfather placed his huge foot beside Littlefoot's tiny foot right after Littlefoot hatched and said: "Look how small his feet are! One of my toes is bigger than one of his feet!"
So Littlefoot's mother decided to call her son Littlefoot.
I do not know if there was any such idea from the moviemakers, or if it was just an idea of the author of that book. But either way I think it's a nice and plausible story.
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I like that story. It is a cute one.
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alot of people on FF.net use the name "Thunderfoot" as LF's Mother's real name and some have used ,well, other names to refer to Littlefoot's Mother. My name for LF's Mother being "Savannah".
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People in stories on fanfiction used different names for Littlefoot's mother some being Thunderfoot (which shown to be the first thought for Littlefoot's name).
Actually the original name of Littlefoot's Mother was supposed to be Thunderfoot but due to a triceratops in a novel written before The Land Before Time being called Thunderfoot, the name had to be changed at the last minute to Littlefoot's Mother. source (http://landbeforetime.wikia.com/wiki/Littlefoot's_Mother)
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People in stories on fanfiction used different names for Littlefoot's mother some being Thunderfoot (which shown to be the first thought for Littlefoot's name).
Actually the original name of Littlefoot's Mother was supposed to be Thunderfoot but due to a triceratops in a novel written before The Land Before Time being called Thunderfoot, the name had to be changed at the last minute to Littlefoot's Mother. source (http://landbeforetime.wikia.com/wiki/Littlefoot's_Mother)
Sorry but that doesn't convince me. Anyone can edit Wikipedia.
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Agreed. And for the record, Thunderfoot was originally intended to be Littlefoot's name.
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A good name for littlefoot¥s mom would be "Bleu" (french for blue) Because in LBT 10 her skin color is blue. if we talk about of couples "Bron and Bleu"(Brown and Blue) sounds good for me. Because they remind me to Hige and Blue a couple of the anime serie named "wolf Rain".
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A good name for littlefoot¥s mom would be "Bleu" (french for blue) Because in LBT 10 her skin color is blue. if we talk about of couples "Bron and Bleu"(Brown and Blue) sounds good for me. Because they remind me to Hige and Blue a couple of the anime serie named "wolf Rain".
She wasn't blue, though! I don't know what color she really was but the people who drew 10 never watched 1.
According to that book Littlefoot's grandfather placed his huge foot beside Littlefoot's tiny foot right after Littlefoot hatched and said: "Look how small his feet are! One of my toes is bigger than one of his feet!"
Is that the speaking role Bill Erwin almost got?
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Is that the speaking role Bill Erwin almost got?
That is very uncertain. Thing is that this story appeared only in a German book adaptation of the movie that appeared long after the movie. I really like that explanation for Littlefoot and I cannot exclude the possibility that there may have been any such idea from the makers of the original movie, but there is not the tiniest shred of evidence for it, so it remains pure speculation.
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I thought her name was Thunderfoot?
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Thunderfoot was a name originally considered for Littlefoot but then changed because they thought Thunderfoot would sound a little intimidating. For all that is proven no official name for Littlefoot's mother was ever considered.
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Maybe a good name would be Lisa.
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She wasn't blue, though! I don't know what color she really was but the people who drew 10 never watched 1.
That is correct. She was never blue in the original. She was actually brown, closer to Bron's color. I did a comparison of how she was in the first movie and tenth movie and found her colors were completely wrong. For some reason, they decided to change her to blue.
Another piece of evidence that shows that they may not have watched, or paid enough attention, to the original when they made the 10th movie is Bron's excuse as to why he was gone for years. I can't remember, but there's something about what he said that contradicted something in the movie or didn't make sense.
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I can't remember, but there's something about what he said that contradicted something in the movie or didn't make sense.
What was it? If you can't remember it can't be that big of a deal. And why did they change her to blue?
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There was very little in LBT 10 (http://gangoffive.net/index.php?showtopic=483) (link leads to a discussion of LBT 10) that did make any sense if one takes the content of the original movie into account.
As for the why (and as for many of the why's you are asking) we don't have any more information than you. About many of the why's we can only speculate rather than provide the official / absolute answers you seem to be looking for.
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Thunderfoot was a name originally considered for Littlefoot but then changed because they thought Thunderfoot would sound a little intimidating. For all that is proven no official name for Littlefoot's mother was ever considered.
Ah. On some cel auction lists her name is claimed to be Thunderfoot:
http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?...370949#topoflot (http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=2218&aid=23054&lid=6370949#topoflot)
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There was very little in LBT 10 (link leads to a discussion of LBT 10) that did make any sense if one takes the content of the original movie into account.
Like what, exactly? Bron looking for a place for his family when they were traveling to the valley? Momma Longneck being blue? What else?
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Look up the link in the post and you will find the thread in which this was discussed in detail.
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Her name would go by her species just like other characters...
Micro-rapter Gui - Guido
Pteranodon - Pterano
Hypsopholodon - Hyp
Nodosaurus - Nod
Muttasaurus - Mutt
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Cera, Ms. Maia, Toppsy, Tricia, Tria, Rinkus, Sierra, Mo, Dil, Icky and Bron were also named after their species or a higher clade their species is a part of. Even Ducky, from English "duckbill" ( the Greek "saurolophos" means "pointed lizard", and "hadrosauros" would be "strong lizard"). However, Littlefoot, Petrie, Spike, Tippy, Thicknose, Rhett, Ali, Sue, Tickles do not follow this convention. So, she can be given any name.
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For some reason, they decided to change her to blue.
This greatly saddened me because it felt disrespectful to a dead character :anger
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I honestly don't see how color disrespects a character...would you rather her original or follow the bright color scheme as of the the 10th movie.
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I don't think it's disrespectful at all.
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^Hmmm... Maybe it was because of the light. They had...different colors at the end of I.
As for the name, it's one of the things that just have to be guessed.
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Yeah most say her name was blue tho.
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I honestly don't see how color disrespects a character...would you rather her original or follow the bright color scheme as of the the 10th movie.
Her original color, hands down.
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I honestly don't see how color disrespects a character...would you rather her original or follow the bright color scheme as of the the 10th movie.
I know it's not exactly the same, but imagine this: there's a character on a TV series; she has black hair and green eyes. But the actress playing her is fired. Then they put a actress/actor in the same role, but that actor/actress has blonde hair and brown eyes. Should the character's hair and eye color matter? No. But the point is, it's hard not to look at the new version of the character and still see the original character you fell in love with.
Take Beauty and the Beast, for example. People say the prince, once he's human, doesn't look like he should, but as Doug pointed out in his Disneycember review, this is cause it's the best the audiences grew to like. We know it's him, but yet it's not.
So while I can live with the decision to make Littlefoot's mother blue, like a navvi, or the little blue brotosaurus---it's simply not the same longneck mother who we grew to love, who we cheered on while fighting the sharptooth, and whose death we cried over by the bucketloads. I'm not saying I like it, but if they really felt they had to change it...well, I guess it could be worse. They could have made her bright yellow, like a yellow belly's belly :x
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I agree that just giving a different color at least showed a high degree of disinterest on the part of the producers of LBT 10 in the movie their sequel was based on. Seeing that it would not have been much to ask for them to check out the original movie and pick a color similar to the one used in the original movie I see the color change as a rather unnecessary blunder and can't help thinking of this as pure laziness on the part of the producers.