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However, with AVG's lack of auto-updates and it's limited protection against various other threats covered by Norton


AVG protects against tons more than norton and it's not a resource hog.  The only thing is that you have to start the program every once and a while and click on "update" in order to be fully protected.  It does automatically update, but it doesn't update very well.  It only updates critical things (What it calls "priority updates").  You have to tell it to update in order to get the full protection (ie, get the recommended and optional updates).


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Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Nov 15 2007 on  01:49 AM
AVG protects against tons more than norton and it's not a resource hog.  The only thing is that you have to start the program every once and a while and click on "update" in order to be fully protected.  It does automatically update, but it doesn't update very well.  It only updates critical things (What it calls "priority updates").  You have to tell it to update in order to get the full protection (ie, get the recommended and optional updates).
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Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Nov 12 2007 on  10:48 PM
AVG is the best anti-VIRUS, but it does nothing against spyware, hackers, spam, or adware.  I use spybot search and destroy for other than virus protection on clients computers.  I typically secure my own computer and I don't like relying on other programs if I don't have to.  AVG and spybot are the best for people short on cash. B)


I have also rigged panda to run on my computer even though I have avg.  It is the best at getting rid of everything else besides viruses.
That list for AVG sounds small compared to the list of threats I've seen Norton clean up.


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Norton anti-virus only protects against viruses.  It will warn you about spyware, but it will do nothing about it except give you annoying popups about how you can pay them more money to remove it. :rolleyes:


spybot search and destroy will keep any comptuer safe.  Use it with AVG for total protection!  Both programs are free too! :D


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Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Nov 15 2007 on  05:03 PM
Norton anti-virus only protects against viruses.  It will warn you about spyware, but it will do nothing about it except give you annoying popups about how you can pay them more money to remove it. :rolleyes:
So you mean all of the times that Norton has removed spyware off of my computer and removed it into the Quarantine, it wasn't really doing it?


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Norton has removed spyware from my computer.


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Maybe the newer versions do.  Norton never did that when I had it over a year ago.  Certainly did slow down a computer or two.

AVG is not "the best".  Perhaps the best for free. Yes.  For nothing, it does a good job.  You can do a better job staying away from sites that would give you a problem in the first place.


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quarentine is so dumb.  There are viruses meant to show their worst side when they're quarentined.  That's all norton does, if it even does that.  Sometimes, norton tells you that it's gotten rid of spyware, but it really hasn't.  Let me put it to you this way:

when I repair other people's computers who have norton, I always scan with AVG.  It comes up with tons of viruses that norton never found.  Just 4 days ago, I had a client who had norton and they had 13 viruses that needed deleting.  AVG found them all and blasted them, while norton came back with nothing found.  Norton was totally updated too.  It still didn't find anything. :rolleyes:


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Well, Norton picked off the Trojans and removed them. so I'm happy. I've also seen Norton just deleted junk like Trojans without even going throught the Quarantine.

If I get a new "safeguard" program, I want it to protect against all types of threats, viruses, spyware, adware, Trojans, hacker junk (yes, Norton has detected and removed these, as well), and everything Norton protects from, or more. It must also have automatic updates. I'm not going to switch to an inferior product. It sounds to me like AVG's protection spectrum is smaller than Norton's.


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Quote from: Manny Cav,Nov 16 2007 on  10:16 AM
If I get a new "safeguard" program, I want it to protect against all types of threats, viruses, spyware, adware, Trojans, hacker junk (yes, Norton has detected and removed these, as well), and everything Norton protects from, or more. It must also have automatic updates. I'm not going to switch to an inferior product. It sounds to me like AVG's protection spectrum is smaller than Norton's.
Yeah, I agree with you. To be honest, when I had AVG and Norton on the computer, I was afraid to remove Norton and just leave AVG on the computer because I did not feel 100% safe with just that program.


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I download hacking tools all the time, and I'd say about 99% of the time, they're viruses :angry: AVG has proteced me all the time though.  I can't give it all the credit however.  Try spybot search and destroy manny.  It's compatible with all antivirus systems and you can have them both installed at the same time.


http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/104.../spybotsd15.exe


You'll be surprised when it scans and finds a billion things.  It scans very fast too.  Be sure to update it though!  Oh, and BTW, it freezes the first time you update it so don't bother to wait it out.  Just end the task in the task manager and restart it.  It's just a software bug that they haven't fixed yet.  And another thing is that after you click the icon, it takes about 20-30 seconds for anything to even come on the screen.  Other than this however, it's a great program.  Works like a charm.  I don't think anyone's told the guy who wrote the software about the bugs and that's why they're not fixed. :rolleyes:


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I am not really interests in computergames :P:  ;) . I heard that there are Final Fantasys for PC, but I didn¥t know that Final Fantasy XI is for the PC since you told me. So, thank you for this. :)


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Uhhhhh...did you post in the right topic? :P: The link above is to the wonderful program "spybot search and destroy", a free program that removes all sorts of threats including mild trojans.  Combined with AVG free, it provides the total protection for all of my computers.  I have around 170 of them BTW so I think I know how to protect them well. B)

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I did not feel 100% safe with just that program.


AVG can't do it all.  You need the spybot program.  I'd still rather have only AVG then norton to protect my computers.  Norton just doesn't do the job very well.


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I have Spybot, but even with it, I don't feel 100% safe with AVG on the comp without another Antivirus to accompany it.


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Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Nov 17 2007 on  03:11 AM
Try spybot search and destroy manny.  It's compatible with all antivirus systems and you can have them both installed at the same time.


http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/104.../spybotsd15.exe


You'll be surprised when it scans and finds a billion things.  It scans very fast too.  Be sure to update it though!  Oh, and BTW, it freezes the first time you update it so don't bother to wait it out.  Just end the task in the task manager and restart it.  It's just a software bug that they haven't fixed yet.  And another thing is that after you click the icon, it takes about 20-30 seconds for anything to even come on the screen.  Other than this however, it's a great program.  Works like a charm.  I don't think anyone's told the guy who wrote the software about the bugs and that's why they're not fixed. :rolleyes:
I'll try it and report back with my findings.


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Spybot used to be just about worthless until about a month ago.  They just came out with what they call the "tea timer".  It is a small application that runs in the background that is like a resistance shield.  Works very well. ;)

EDIT:  but they still don't have auto updates.  You have to click "update" to update the definitions.


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The Vista computer is currently under scan, but I didn't update prior to this, so I'll do another one.


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After updating, and immunizing, this is what I came up with:
Quote from: Spybot - Seach & Destroy on  
Congratulations!
No immediate threats were found.


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Good for you.  I always have some sort of threat when I scan a computer that I haven't immunized yet.  Did you immunize Manny?  That'll help you keep it that way.  Also immunize after every update just to be safe.


Are you going to remove it now?  I would recommend keeping it.  What does it hurt?


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I don't like keeping programs I don't need. I'll scan my main XP laptop, but if it doesn't turn up much, then 'good bye, Spybot Search & Destroy!'

And, yes, as I said in my prior post, I did, indeed, update and immunize prior to the scan.

EDIT: Lol, pun. Better edit that out.


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Quote from: Manny Cav,Nov 17 2007 on  10:46 AM
Yup, Final Fantasy XI is an MMORPG so it's also on computer. Final Fantasy XI is also on PS2 and Xbox 360. If you probably heard of Final Fantasy XI I'm a bit surprised you didn't know it's also on computer XD
 
Sorry lbt lover. I just read the text on the second side :lol This was adress to Keni.