Windows Vista

landbeforetimelover · **on:** July 01, 2007, 07:24:26 PM

I had windows vista ultimate edtion for a while. It sucked. I uninstalled it and put windows xp professional on it instead.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #1 on:** July 01, 2007, 08:00:24 PM

I don't have it, but I do want it. Though the main reason I want Vista is because there is a PC game coming out I want to play that requires Vista, and another game coming in September, I think, that might also require Vista.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #2 on:** July 01, 2007, 08:34:56 PM

Windows really has no benifits. If you have 1.7ghz and 2gb of ram and there's nothing on the computer but vista, it takes about 7 minutes to start up. If ya have 2.4ghz or less you should NOT upgrade to vista. It really is just windows xp that has a whole bunch of useless visual styles that just slow ya down and a new encoding that makes your old programs obsolete and make ya have to buy new ones. It sucks! I have decided to never upgrade from XP. I'll just install all of the additioinal components in each new operating system but I will not be forced to buy new programs and pay Gates $300 every time I want to turn the thing on.

That's how my aunt felt about windows 98. She has windows 98 on her new computer. I installed all of vista's support for additonal drivers and plug and play technology into windows 98's operating system. Now she can have windows vista that looks like windows 98 and accepts all of her old programs. It is fairly stable, but sometimes crashes on her. It's okay though cuz her computer starts in less than 20 seconds. That's what I'm doing with XP. I will not buy new programs just cuz gates wants more money. He wants more money? Why doesn't he actually work for a change and stop taking the easy way out? Create something new and different Gates and I'll buy it from you. Till then, you arn't getting any of my money.

That's the way I see it.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #3 on:** July 01, 2007, 09:13:56 PM

I want to try Windows Vista first before I decide if I like it or not.

Petrie. · **Reply #4 on:** July 01, 2007, 09:26:32 PM

I'd give it a couple of service packs before I'd even try it. There's so much incompatiable stuff at this point in time. I've also heard Vista is a DRM hog and I will stay far away from that....I'll install linux before I'd go to Vista with support like that....

DarkHououmon · **Reply #5 on:** July 01, 2007, 10:03:47 PM

What's DRM?

Petrie. · **Reply #6 on:** July 01, 2007, 10:17:15 PM

DRM relates to much of your audio/video media you might have stored. Its a form of copy protection, and can seriously limit what you can do with the files, what programs will play them, how they will play them (reports are that hi-def stuff will come out at a lower quality <_< ).

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #7 on:** July 01, 2007, 10:19:10 PM

I believe it stands for Digital Rights Management but I'm not sure. To be honest, I'm terrible at computer termenology. I don't really talk to people about computer specs. I don't have any computer friends except online and all they want to talk about is software and crap. <_<

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #8 on:** July 01, 2007, 10:20:57 PM

Hackers sure are smart. They already have vista's DRM cracked so it doesn't work anymore. I prefer to do it the legal way though. That's why I'm keeping XP!

Flathead770 · **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2007, 11:53:57 PM

im sticking with xp, i heard that vista couldnt play older games so i didnt get it, but it turns out thats not true, and Starcraft 2 is compatible on xp so im not worried about getting vista

action9000 · **Reply #10 on:** July 02, 2007, 12:12:56 AM

Petrie covered my complaints with Vista in a nutshell right now.

The Only reason I would upgrade to Vista is if my new programs were no longer compatible with Windows XP (this happened to me with Windows 98. By the time I was "forced" to upgrade to XP, XP was working nicely).

I would be much more likely to upgrade to WindowsX64 (the 64-bit version of Windows XP) as opposed to Windows Vista in the near future. I am in dire need of 64-bit memory addressing for my audio software but I lack both hardware and software support for 64-bit on my main system at the moment.

In short, "memory addressing" refers to how much memory (physical RAM or virtual paging file) that a single application can access, and how much memory is accessible in total by All of the applications running on the computer. In 32-bit Windows XP, a single application can normally access 2 GB of memory. This can be changed to 3 GB by altering the boot.ini file, which I do, but this alteration causes some instability in some programs. The total amount of memory accessible by Everything (including applications and the operating system) in 32-bit is 4 GB.

In a 64-bit operating system, this 4 GB total limit is extended to at least 128 GB. This allows one to install basically as much RAM as your motherboard will accept and every bit of it is accessable. While most people don't need more than 2 or 3 GB of RAM, I'm finding RAM to be a very valuable comodity for my audio stuff. I can fill 3 GB of RAM amazingly fast and get "out of memory" errors much earlier than I'd like to see.

For now though, Vista isn't the answer. I have little faith in it at the moment but hopefully a service pack or two, as Petrie said, will bring it to life a bit more.

Cyberlizard · **Reply #11 on:** July 02, 2007, 01:12:32 AM

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Though the main reason I want Vista is because there is a PC game coming out I want to play that requires Vista, and another game coming in September, I think, that might also require Vista.

If you're talking about Halo 2, it's already out. I wouldn't bother flushing 300 bucks down the toilet to get flawed operating system just for a game. A windows XP compatable version of Halo 2 is being released by another company sometime this month.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #12 on:** July 02, 2007, 01:24:56 AM

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While most people don't need more than 2 or 3 GB of RAM

Yeah, but we all want it!

Petrie. · **Reply #13 on:** July 02, 2007, 03:02:20 PM

Pheh I don't. Simply means people can't program properly if you need that much memory to do simple tasks.