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Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => The Arts => Silver Screen => Topic started by: Saft on May 13, 2009, 12:27:56 PM

Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Saft on May 13, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
Has anyone else seen this and if so what did you think of it?

When I first saw it, I was frightened so much that it gave me nightmares.  Quite pathetic really but I think it had to do with the vampires and not Oogie Boogie.

I'm still trying to understand why though.  But after the inital nightmares, I have re-watched this film and whilst it is not a favourite I do see that in a way it was a improvement on the direction of animation.  Especially an animation direction that was used to create another Tim Burton's films: Corpse Bride.  I actually like Corpse Bride.
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Nick22 on May 13, 2009, 12:33:06 PM
It was an interesting story.. I first saw in in theathers and it reminded me of the puppets used in the rankin Bass films and specials in the 60s and 70s.. Corpse bride is very similar, almost a sequel..
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Saft on May 13, 2009, 12:35:49 PM
Are they puppets?

I don't think they are, I thought that they were made out of clay like the Wallace and Gromit characters.
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Nick22 on May 13, 2009, 12:42:56 PM
I believe they were puppets ..although I'll have to check to be sure...
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Saft on May 13, 2009, 12:53:54 PM
I could check if you'd like?
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Post by: Nick22 on May 13, 2009, 12:55:25 PM
Sure, if you want..
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Saft on May 13, 2009, 01:17:12 PM
All I've been able to find are:

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This was the first movie to ever be fully animated using the stop-motion technique that was favored by Tim Burton for special effects in some of his other movies for its surreal quality.

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It took a group of around 100 people three years to complete this movie. For one second of film, up to 12 stop-motion moves had to be made.

Yet, when I researched Corpse Bride because since they were made by the same people I presumed that they used the same to create Corpse Bride, so:

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The puppets used neither of the industry standards of replaceable heads (like those used on The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)) or replaceable mouths (like those used by Aardman Studios in Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005)) but instead used precision crafted clockwork heads, adjusted by hidden keys. This allowed for unprecedented subtlety, but was apparently even more painstaking than the already notoriously arduous animation. One animator even reported having recurring nightmares of adjusting his own facial expression in this fashion.

So Nick, you were correct and I was wrong.
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Kor on May 13, 2009, 01:40:33 PM
I saw the movie and enjoyed it quite a bit.
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Saft on May 13, 2009, 01:44:47 PM
Did you see the theatrical release Kor or did you (like me) see it when the VHS was released?
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Post by: Nick22 on May 17, 2009, 08:30:02 PM
it originally came out in 1993...
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Kor on May 17, 2009, 09:46:05 PM
I didn't see it at the theater.  I think I first saw it when I checked it out from the library or maybe rented it from a video rental place.
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Nick22 on May 17, 2009, 09:52:23 PM
what was your favorite character in the movie Kor?
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Kor on May 17, 2009, 10:01:26 PM
I'd have to either say Jack Skellington (I think is name is), or the patchwork girl who liked or loved him.  Though many of the other chars could be funny at times also.
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Post by: Nick22 on May 17, 2009, 10:02:35 PM
Jack was my favorite as well.. I'm surprised they didn't make a sequel to it, was a pretty big hit at the box office
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Post by: Kor on May 17, 2009, 11:15:26 PM
Maybe the director or producer doesn't like doing sequels.  I think it had a GBA game also.
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Nick22 on May 17, 2009, 11:32:26 PM
Burton made a sequel to Batman, so he was not afraid of doing sequels..
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Kor on May 18, 2009, 02:51:33 AM
I wonder why he didnt to this one.  And Jack did seem to be a multi dimensional character.  Now that I remember some bits that I can recall.
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Dash The Longneck on May 18, 2009, 10:06:08 AM
I loved this movie back when I was a kid and still do to this very day.
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Nick22 on May 19, 2009, 01:14:32 AM
I think Burton had other projects going on at the time that prevented him from making a sequel..
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Post by: Kor on May 19, 2009, 01:30:02 AM
& to late now I guess.   I wonder what he would have done, and if it would have been good, bad, or just ok.
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Nick22 on May 19, 2009, 01:31:51 AM
Well, I don't think it would be too late. it took them 19 years to make a new Indiana Jones movie...
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Post by: Kor on May 19, 2009, 02:58:09 AM
True, no reason those characters have to be any older then they were in the movie when they were last seen.
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Post by: craZ4knux on August 11, 2009, 10:31:57 PM
Ooh I love this movie! I have the DVD w/ the black holographic box, w/ Jack's smiling face on the front. Definitely my current favorite movie! Jack is my fave, then Sally, then Lock, Shock, & Barrel. "Jack's Lament" is my favorite song (and scene) in the movie. I watch it about every month, or every other month, depending on my mood. But it's a cool movie. :D
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: landbeforetimelover on August 11, 2009, 10:41:07 PM
Nope.  Never seen it.  I saw commercials of it when I was at the age where I was still into LBT but I thought it looked dumb so I never asked ma to buy it for me.  Don't know what I'd think of it now.  I don't even remember anything about it except for the fact that I thought it looked dumb when I was 4 years old. :p
Title: The Nightmare before Christmas.
Post by: Kor on August 11, 2009, 10:44:34 PM
It is a great movie.  I should watch it again eventually.