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The Land Before Time => 1988 Theatrical Release => Topic started by: WeirdRaptor on October 29, 2016, 10:46:26 PM

Title: A remake could actually happen.
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 29, 2016, 10:46:26 PM
If Disney remakes keep making money like they have, other studios with old animation properties might try their hand at it (especially if The Lion King remake is a smash hit).

Problem is, there might not be anyone at Universal these days who actually understands what made the original Land Before Time great or why it's continued to captivate young audiences to this very day. It would probably be CGI (but they'd label it "live-action" because they would probably film on real locations and just insert CG dinosaurs later).

Nick and I already talked about this once, and we already have a list of concerns about the treatment it would get by the studio. They were mainly that the filmmakers wouldn't have enough respect for the original and might try to make it "hip for the kids". As in turn one of the gang of five into a catch-phrase spouting jive turkey.
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Post by: ADFan185 on October 30, 2016, 05:15:43 AM
Yeah that sounds horrible they should just not touch it and leave it alone as it is. We don't need anymore live action/CGI abominations that will ruin a good thing we have already.
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Post by: Ducky123 on October 30, 2016, 07:17:35 AM
A CGI-remake similar to how Disney did it with Jungle Book would be acceptable in terms of animation quality but...

stick to the goddamn original plot and atmosphere and don't turn it into something that it simply is not! (and include the cut scenes goddammit :p)
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Post by: Sneak on October 30, 2016, 08:21:36 AM
I read such discussion years ago, and then and now I can only say: I can't see anything good in such remake.

We already have almost perfect original movie. People who plan endless remakes on old movies: Please, leave our movie alone.
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Post by: ADFan185 on October 30, 2016, 08:36:08 AM
Exactly this shouldn't happen at all. The first one is awesome and perfect. The story was perfect. It doesn't need a horrific remake that would destroy the original.
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Post by: Ducky123 on October 30, 2016, 11:12:19 AM
I'm not saying it should be done... but if it is done, I won't be mad either. Except for the cut scenes, the original movie IS perfect indeed.
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Post by: ADFan185 on October 30, 2016, 11:35:59 AM
Yeah okay that's true if this does happen I'd love to see the cut senses they had to edit out of the original.
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Post by: Nick22 on October 30, 2016, 12:49:18 PM
I doubt if they do a remake that they will include the scenes cut from the original. I hope they dont do a remake at all. Disney is already pushing the envelope with remakes of Beauty and the beast and the Lion King, both films which rank at the very top of animated films in that studios long history.  Jungle Book worked because it had been almost 50 years since the original.  Films like Sword in the Stone or Robin Hood or Rescuers would be good candidates for remakes, because they are lesser known and are 40-50 years old.
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Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on October 30, 2016, 02:35:56 PM
How did I know this would involve the recent news of the live-action Lion King remake?  :smile

The fact is, I feel the original has a lot of problems. Yeah, I admit it. I'm not the LBT fan I was when I joined half a decade ago.

As someone pointed out, however, the decent enough film we have would likely be trashed beyond belief. At least if it were made today. If it's made in a distant enough future, in which, hypothetically, filmmakers have actually learned to appreciate and understand the kind of quality that matters and that made the first one good, well, I'm all up for it.

But I hope there's a good decade and a half between now and whenever a remake is even considered. Children's films today, Pixar aside (and even Pixar has gone downhill a bit in the last half-decade), are just full of obnoxious pop-culture references, pop songs, obnoxious characters, celebrity voice actors, mediocre storytelling, bad writing, terrible jokes, and so many other things that would NOT suit a LBT remake. Until the world has learned better from that, they should stay away from remaking LBT.

From what I can tell the recent remake of "The Jungle Book" pretty much avoided these things, and if the other Disney remakes do as well, there's hope. But I still say there should be a 15 year or so wait before they even consider remaking it, to make sure the world has learned.

I would love to write this all down on TV Tropes, but as most of you know, they hate me.  :cry
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Post by: ADFan185 on October 30, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
Yeah I hope they don't as well. They're doing this with the lion king and even than I'm not sure I'll support it. It's a terrible plan from the start.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 30, 2016, 03:59:33 PM
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Children's films today, Pixar aside (and even Pixar has gone downhill a bit in the last half-decade), are just full of obnoxious pop-culture references, pop songs, obnoxious characters, celebrity voice actors, mediocre storytelling, bad writing, terrible jokes, and so many other things that would NOT suit a LBT remake.
You mean, Pixar AND Disney aside, because Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia were all excellent. And Moana is shaping up to be awesome.
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Post by: Ducky123 on October 30, 2016, 05:24:10 PM
I think you are too critical about many things, Bruton. Watch the movie and enjoy it. If the original movie didn't have the cuts, it would be perfect, but even with them it's still one of the best movies ever made. I don't get why so any people keep on ranting about anything in movies. Geez, just sit back, watch and enjoy. If there's an interesting story/idea with likeable characters, good animation/filming and voices/actors that fit the roles, why rant about it? Not everything is going to be 100% the way you want it to be so be happy with 90% or continue watching movies with frustration, your choice really...

That's really why I'm not very critical about movies. I watch them and either I enjoy them or I don't but there's no gain in getting upset about every little shit. Some bad jokes? So what, the movie's still good   <_<

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Children's films today, Pixar aside (and even Pixar has gone downhill a bit in the last half-decade), are just full of obnoxious pop-culture references, pop songs, obnoxious characters, celebrity voice actors, mediocre storytelling, bad writing, terrible jokes, and so many other things that would NOT suit a LBT remake.
You mean, Pixar AND Disney aside, because Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia were all excellent. And Moana is shaping up to be awesome.
Haven't seen Tangled and Big Hero 6 yet but the others on that list are amazeballs, their recent movies are, if anything, better than the older ones. Anyway, off-topic
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Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on October 30, 2016, 10:57:56 PM
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I think you are too critical about many things, Bruton. Watch the movie and enjoy it. If the original movie didn't have the cuts, it would be perfect, but even with them it's still one of the best movies ever made. I don't get why so any people keep on ranting about anything in movies. Geez, just sit back, watch and enjoy. If there's an interesting story/idea with likeable characters, good animation/filming and voices/actors that fit the roles, why rant about it? Not everything is going to be 100% the way you want it to be so be happy with 90% or continue watching movies with frustration, your choice really...

That's really why I'm not very critical about movies. I watch them and either I enjoy them or I don't but there's no gain in getting upset about every little shit. Some bad jokes? So what, the movie's still good   <_<

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Children's films today, Pixar aside (and even Pixar has gone downhill a bit in the last half-decade), are just full of obnoxious pop-culture references, pop songs, obnoxious characters, celebrity voice actors, mediocre storytelling, bad writing, terrible jokes, and so many other things that would NOT suit a LBT remake.
You mean, Pixar AND Disney aside, because Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia were all excellent. And Moana is shaping up to be awesome.
Haven't seen Tangled and Big Hero 6 yet but the others on that list are amazeballs, their recent movies are, if anything, better than the older ones. Anyway, off-topic
The thing is, LBT simply isn't something I'm as into as it used to be. Obviously I'm still a part of the LBT community, but it's only really something I'm into if it's what I consider really good. And to me, now, even the original has too many problems. Without the cuts it would be much better, though.

What I'm basically saying isn't anything against the original, I'm just saying they shouldn't remake it  unless they make it better.
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Post by: ADFan185 on October 31, 2016, 03:59:27 AM
I've seen big hero six and it was awesome. Kinda far behind ducky. And Tangled was actually good I saw that movie a bunch of times. It had awesome music and a pretty decent storyline I think. And the characters where pretty good as well. So in my view select animated kids movies from today are slightly better but not by much. They're toned down a lot than they where back in the 70s and the 80s.
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Post by: Coyote_A on October 31, 2016, 06:50:47 AM
Personally I don't think there's anything inherently bad about remaking old classics IF it's done right. Unfortunately the chances for the new team to screw up are way too high in this particular scenario... The market has changed considerably since 1988 and in trying to refurbish the original plot for the new audiences they risk really messing things up. :unsure:
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Children's films today, Pixar aside (and even Pixar has gone downhill a bit in the last half-decade), are just full of obnoxious pop-culture references, pop songs, obnoxious characters, celebrity voice actors, mediocre storytelling, bad writing, terrible jokes, and so many other things that would NOT suit a LBT remake.
You mean, Pixar AND Disney aside, because Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia were all excellent.
Out of the ones you mentioned, I can only agree on Wreck-It Ralph and Zootopia being very, very good as the rest were okay or mediocre in my opinion. Honestly I'm not sure I would trust Disney with remaking the first chapter of the adventures of Littlefoot and the gang.
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Post by: Sneak on October 31, 2016, 07:59:43 AM
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Personally I don't think there's anything inherently bad about remaking old classics
but WHY do we need any remake if we already has perfect original?

it is not transfering from book to movie or from movie to book. It's making the same product with more improved graphics...

even if creators can make remake in very good quality... still question: WHY?
(I don't mean getting money from selling product, I mean - why we, people, need this remake?)
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Post by: ADFan185 on October 31, 2016, 09:01:54 AM
Yeah there is they already ruined a lot of movies by remaking old classic movies. They don't hold a candle to the original.
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Post by: Ducky123 on November 01, 2016, 10:14:12 AM
Well, I admit I'd rather see a new sequel than a remake
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Post by: Coyote_A on November 01, 2016, 11:26:49 AM
At any rate it's unlikely to happen - and that's probably for the best - but let's think positive here for a little while and let our imaginations soar... If a remake and in fact a reboot of the entire series did happen, what would you guys want the "new and improved" LBT to be like? :)
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Post by: Ducky123 on November 01, 2016, 11:33:38 AM
That's a good question, maybe open another thread to discuss this in detail? Since this one is more accurately about our opinions on a possibly remake at all :p
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 01, 2016, 12:28:14 PM
Yeah a new thread would be a good idea to let our imaginations run while about a new remake to the franchise
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Post by: F-14 Ace on November 01, 2016, 10:52:58 PM
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Children's films today, Pixar aside (and even Pixar has gone downhill a bit in the last half-decade), are just full of obnoxious pop-culture references, pop songs, obnoxious characters, celebrity voice actors, mediocre storytelling, bad writing, terrible jokes, and so many other things that would NOT suit a LBT remake.
You mean, Pixar AND Disney aside, because Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia were all excellent. And Moana is shaping up to be awesome.
And let's not forget The Emperor's New Groove, Lilo and Stich, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, and The Princess and the Frog all of which I thought were excellent films.  Granted, I'm probably in a minority on that though because everyone else seems to hate those films (with the exception of Lilo and Stitch which was actually a huge success).  Oddly enough people never can seem to be able to explain exactly why they hate those films.  When they do, the reasons they give are usually petty, like Doug Walker spending the majority of his Brother Bear review bashing the film simply because he hates Phil Collins for some unexplained reason.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 02, 2016, 11:54:47 AM
Treasure Planet did poorly in the box office back than. I remember seeing it in theaters back in 2002 and no one was in there when I saw it. And I gotta say I actually didn't hate it as much as everyone else did. I thought the main character was good he had a good storyline built in for him. He was abandoned by his dad that didn't want him his mom raised him by himself. He's an outcast I love the outcast characters I can relate to them.
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Post by: DarkWolf91 on November 02, 2016, 05:20:11 PM
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And let's not forget The Emperor's New Groove, Lilo and Stich, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, and The Princess and the Frog all of which I thought were excellent films. Granted, I'm probably in a minority on that though because everyone else seems to hate those films (with the exception of Lilo and Stitch which was actually a huge success). Oddly enough people never can seem to be able to explain exactly why they hate those films. When they do, the reasons they give are usually petty, like Doug Walker spending the majority of his Brother Bear review bashing the film simply because he hates Phil Collins for some unexplained reason.

Completely agreed! I've been watching Brother Bear with my son a lot, and it's really quite an excellent film. I looked up the 'rotten tomatoes' page for it and was pretty surprised. There was a period in time where it was very popular to bash Disney though, so I assume everyone just jumped on that bandwagon. The only complaints people seemed to have were that it was 'standard disney fare' and that the animation was bad. Both of these I wholeheartedly disagree with- the themes were actually pretty mature, and the villain presence was unique in that it was the main character's brother, and you sympathized with his motivation throughout the film. And, in my opinion, the animation and character designs are really stellar. The bears moved in a beautifully bear-like way, and there were a lot of subtle gestures and great expressions. I mean, it wasn't perfect film, but it sure as hell didn't deserve a lower score than "Ghostbusters 2016" and "X-Men: Apocalypse."

Also, as a side note... I really don't like Phil Collins' film songwriting either :lol But it's definitely not enough to condemn the whole film.
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Post by: F-14 Ace on November 02, 2016, 08:56:55 PM
So basically here is my take.

Emperor's New Groove-  I have absolutely no complaints about that film.  It's hilarious from start to finish and Yzma is one of the funniest Disney villains ever.

Atlantis: The Lost Empire-  I love the dark, gritty sci-fi adventure feel that this film has.  I think the characters are interesting and the depiction of Atlantis is absolutely stunning.  

Treasure Planet: There is a lot I like about this movie.  The music is beautiful, the animation is beautiful, the characters are very well written, and despite the strange setup, the film does a surprisingly good job of staying true to the source material.  I can see why people don't like BEN, and I did find him a little annoying, but I didn't let that ruin the movie.  I actually find Silver to be one of the most likable and sympathetic Disney villains and I like the father-son relationship he builds with Jim that ultimately leads to him redeeming himself.  In fact he's one of the few Disney villains who actually gets redeemed.

Also, Captain Amelia is awesome! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQkt7_Gq4k4)

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Post by: ADFan185 on November 02, 2016, 09:30:27 PM
Brother Bear was a awesome movie with a amazing storyline. The characters where will thought out and good. The whole thing about the brother who killed the mother into a bear as punishment was good and fair. I loved how those two didn't get along and they grew a powerful bond with each other.
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Post by: Ducky123 on November 03, 2016, 10:45:50 PM
Brother Bear is amazing indeed. We're kinda OT though :p
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 03, 2016, 11:29:34 PM
Yes yes we're I loved the soundtrack to Brother Bear. Phil Collins did a amazing job with the soundtrack.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 13, 2016, 05:13:05 PM
I did not these the early and mid 2000s stuff because I don't really count them as family films on "these days". That said, I also quite like Atlantis and Treasure Planet. Not fond of Brother Bear at all and please do not argue with me on this one, ADFan.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 13, 2016, 05:34:51 PM
Treasure Planet was a flop for Disney since critics where harash on it. I disagreed with there reviews and thought the movie was done pretty well. It wasn't Disney's best movie but it wasn't there worst either. That would be Black Caldron is there worst movie ever made. But Treasure Planet help up well for me it's a feel good movie I enjoyed and got a good connection to Jimmy.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 13, 2016, 05:39:13 PM
"Home is the Range" isn't as bad as "Black Cauldron"?
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 13, 2016, 05:47:09 PM
Ah Rosanne Barrs movie Where she voiced a cow. That movie was eh to be but I could say I'd take That movie over Black Caldron any day.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 13, 2016, 05:48:29 PM
Once again, I disagree completely. The Black Cauldron was just an experiment that didn't work out for them. Home on the Range, at least for me, was just painful to sit through.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 14, 2016, 03:49:25 PM
Black Caldron was painful to sit through that's a horrible abomination at Least Home On The Range had some heart soul and some good emotional parts so it was a decent well made movie.
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Post by: Sovereign on November 14, 2016, 05:26:40 PM
Those two are some of Disney's worst films. Home on the Range's whole idea was horrible and Black Cauldron didn't just work for me. Gurgi's design is all I had to know to know about the movie but I still watched it. I shouldn't have...
 
I agree that Brother Bear is one the best later Disney films. Phil Collins' songs were already great for Tarzan but even then Brother Bear's songs are a major improvement. His version of Transformation is just great... I wouldn't call the film a masterpiece but it's one of the best from Disney since 2000, along with Atlantis and Frozen.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 14, 2016, 05:37:52 PM
Yeah brother bear wasn't a master piece but it worked alright for a 2000s movie I mean I loved the Phil Collins songs in the movie a lot. The plot was pretty well written for Brother Bear and the characters where likable for the most part. Atlantis was alright again not a master piece but a decent well made Disney movie for the most part. Sometimes the characters in Atlantis where kinda Annoying but likable none the less.
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Post by: Sovereign on November 14, 2016, 05:48:43 PM
Well yes, characters of Atlantis weren't the film's forte if you ask me. The soundtrack, on the other hand, is occasionally glorious and I really like the overall design of the film. It may be just me but I think Atlantis manages to establish a larger universe around it than many other Disney films. The two prologue scenes and Milo's grandfather are very nice additions to the film's "lore".
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 14, 2016, 07:13:41 PM
I agree with most of what you said about Atlantis, Sovereign. I admit the characters weren't deep on an objective level, but subjectively, they just "work" for me.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 14, 2016, 07:27:43 PM
Yes I agree that some parts of the movie where very well done. And parts of the movie had some nice character development in most parts of the movie. It's not good by any means but all and all I can call it a movie. And yes the soundtrack was quite nice and enjoyable.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 14, 2016, 08:18:27 PM
Someone once said Atlantis is the perfect cult classic. I think they were right.
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Post by: Sneak on November 15, 2016, 05:29:43 AM
Back to land before time:

I wanna ask: WHAT should happen inside possible LBT remake that you positively accept it after watching?

Because my point is the same: we already have PERFECT story, with unique exciting atmosphere and good graphics/sounds. I don't think anything inside new movie will amaze me so much. Ok, even if it does - I will still know that it is just remake and it can't handle with original.

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Post by: ADFan185 on November 15, 2016, 06:30:59 AM
It has it's fair share of faults like the annoying characters and the plot wasn't that good to be honest so Atlantis it's not really a cult Classic at all,
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 15, 2016, 12:45:59 PM
Actually, Atlantis kinda is a cult classic. It's sold well on DVD and has a devoted fanbase around it. That is the essence of a cult classic.

And again, everything you just said is purely subjective.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 15, 2016, 01:06:55 PM
True I did read that back than I might watch it again. So I can see if I still like it
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Post by: Sovereign on November 15, 2016, 01:52:10 PM
I don't really know why it's only a cult classic. I know I'm in a minority here but I really dislike Pixar films. It is against them that I compare films like Atlantis or Brother Bear. They're no masterpieces like Bambi or Secret of NIMH but they're the best this millennium has to offer, at least for me.

To answer Snik's question, remaking Land Before Time successfully is a huge task. First of all, NO composer would be able to best or even match Horner's soundtrack. Any kind of remake would have to strive to its level but it would always be a disappointment. Also, the animation should be close to Bluth's style. If it's computer animated, count me out...

The places for improvement (these are only details) would be voice acting. I personally prefer the cast of Journey of the Brave to the original (especially Petrie) and it would be interesting to see how they would replace the original cast. Perhaps  a remake could focus the world more in detail: I mean that we saw few characters in the film. The cut domehead scene would have been a nice touch. Also, there could have been three or four landmarks along the way to the Valley. That would give the film a longer run time but I don't know if it would get too repetitive...

In the end, I can only come up with minor improvements to the film we have. I cannot see any way anyone would be able to capture its spirit like the original film did.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 15, 2016, 02:43:52 PM
Pixar is awesome what's your issue with them? They have made tons of very successful Movies like Toy Story 1,2,3 Cars, and others where very big box office hits. Toy Story III Grossed over 1,000,000,000 dollars at the box office. So Pixar is a great company I love them a lot. But not everything they did was good. They made some poor movie like Cars 2 I didn't like at all. Turning it into a spy chance movie it's been done a bunch of times already. So Pixar has some hit and misses in there Libarary.
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Post by: Sovereign on November 15, 2016, 03:19:56 PM
I know many people love Pixar but I just don't like their artistic style or their plots. I admit that Toy Stories are objectively good as films but they just don't work for me. Bug's Life and Incredibles on the other hand... nope. I admit that I haven't seen their other films.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 15, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Ah okay that's fine if you don't like there there animation style. For me I'm only into those movies for there storyline and there life lessons. And they do have a lot of awesome personal quotes and meaningful messages in them. And plus it's all CGI computer animation and not many people like that kind of animation witch is personally okay if people don't like it.
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Post by: Sovereign on November 15, 2016, 04:52:19 PM
It would be... akward, to watch Pixar films on traditional animation, though.  :D I'm not sure I'd like that either but the style's my major problem.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 15, 2016, 06:53:19 PM
Fair enough. As popular as Pixar is, I know they're not everyone's cup of tea. That said, I also disagree with you. That said, I don't like ALL their films. In another discussion on this site, I've already voiced my dislike for the Finding (Insert Name of Fish Here) films. I also don't like Cars. I feel it was a huge step down from The Incredibles, which perfected animating human characters in the computer.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 15, 2016, 10:10:55 PM
Cars one was amazing it had great acting great storyline and a ton of great heart and soul that teaches respect and other stuff. I loved Finding Nemo a lot one of my favorite Pixar movies. Not to sure about Cars III hopefully it will be a okay movie. Cars II in my book failed it was alright but not awesome as the first one. And I personally like Pixars animation it's bright and colorful.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 15, 2016, 10:40:19 PM
I know it's not an objectively bad movie. I just don't like it.
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Post by: Ducky123 on November 16, 2016, 05:49:57 AM
Could you guys please finally stop that off-topic movie talk? This is a thread about LBT not Disney/Pixar movies  :bang
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Post by: Sneak on November 16, 2016, 05:56:44 AM
btw, Ducky, I would like to see your answer on my question. :)
what in the world should happen that you accept LBT remake.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 16, 2016, 07:01:49 AM
Ah okay that's fine that you don't like it. To me It's a fun filled movie with some awesome jokes and humor.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 16, 2016, 02:37:57 PM
Back to topic:

For me, the requirements for accepting an LBT remake are:
-No pop songs.
-no modern slang.
-Not softening the film's tone.
-Decent child actors as the kids.
-No celebrity voices.
-Fully orchestrated soundtrack. No modern stuff.
-Don Bluth supervising it.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 16, 2016, 04:00:08 PM
I hardly thihk Bligh will do do he's busy working on Dragon's Lair the movie
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 16, 2016, 04:58:24 PM
But as of right now, any possible LBT remakes are not in production. Bluth could presumably be done with Dragon's Lair by then.
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 16, 2016, 05:08:36 PM
True you're right he could be all finished with that movie but I'd be all for him directing the new remake of one is gonna be made.
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Post by: Sovereign on November 16, 2016, 05:10:32 PM
As much as I'd hope, I don't think we'll see another LBT film from Bluth. For now, I'm just hoping that the Dragon's Lair's will be a great film. Even if that's the case, it's unlikely that Universal just calls Bluth and offers him a chance to resurrect the franchise. Nothing's impossible though...   ;)
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 16, 2016, 05:33:15 PM
Yeah true they're afraid he'd make it to dark for kids like his first movie was. But I'd be happy if he came back and directed a new one. But like you said I highly doubt Universial will hire him back.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 16, 2016, 06:05:00 PM
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As much as I'd hope, I don't think we'll see another LBT film from Bluth. For now, I'm just hoping that the Dragon's Lair's will be a great film. Even if that's the case, it's unlikely that Universal just calls Bluth and offers him a chance to resurrect the franchise. Nothing's impossible though...   ;)
But darker and more complicated children's properties are currently the "IN" thing right now. The Universal execs would have to be fools not recognize the waves the likes of Gravity Falls and such are making.
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Post by: Sovereign on November 16, 2016, 06:25:07 PM
Just asking, what children's films these days would you actually call "dark"?
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Post by: ADFan185 on November 16, 2016, 08:12:35 PM
None that I can think of since today's world parents would complain if it's to dark
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 16, 2016, 08:31:48 PM
The current run of Disney animated films. They've had mature themes, have been liberal with violence, dark content, and have not been afraid to showcase death when needed and even nightmarish imagery (Big Hero 6 and Zootopia being prime examples).
Plus Kubo and the Two Strings, The Adventures of Tintin, ParaNorman, Coraline, How to Train Your Dragon 2, and others depending on what you classifying as "these days".
And that's not even counting what's been on TV. Star Wars Revels, Avatar: The Last Airbender, The Legend of Korra, Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Young Justice (uncancelled as of right now), and such.

And in the live-action corner we have the Harry Potter films, the Narnia films, Marvel Cinematic Universe, the recent Jungle Book film, BFG, Star Wars: The Force Awakens (YES. The SW films are family films), and the other upcoming Star Wars films.

There IS money to be made on respecting children's intelligence.

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None that I can think of since today's world parents would complain if it's to dark
My post disproves this comment entirely.
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Post by: Sovereign on November 17, 2016, 04:54:30 AM
Well, there might be some more violence and mature themes in those films but I still wouldn't call those dark as their overall tone still is quite lighthearted and they're pretty comic. (I wasn't really thinking about live-action, they're pretty different from animated films). That being said, I haven't seen most of the films you mentioned. But we're drifting off-topic once again.  :oops
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 17, 2016, 03:56:44 PM
It's not necessarily about the tone in and of itself. It's just as much about subtext and implications. You'd be amazed at what animated works have gotten away with just by inferring things.
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Post by: Sovereign on November 17, 2016, 05:05:27 PM
I very well might... But their style is very different from original LBT or other Bluth films. I wouldn't want to see Zootopia-inspired LBT remake.  :p
Title: A remake could actually happen.
Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 17, 2016, 07:39:09 PM
I'm not suggesting a Zootopia-style remake.
Title: A remake could actually happen.
Post by: Dr. Rex on March 05, 2017, 03:44:26 AM
To be honest, the only way an LBT remake would realistically work is if:

*A significant portion of the crew were longtime fans who understand how the original LBT worked and where it could be improved (like the cut scenes)

*The studio prioritized other works over the remake, which would hopefully give the crew more creative input

*There was a crazy marketing campaign to get the remake high on the radar of moviegoers

That's my take on it.
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Post by: ADFan185 on March 05, 2017, 04:42:13 AM
It's been almost thirty years and no news. To be honest a remake isn't needed since the first one was perfect even tho the cut sense aren't in it.
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Post by: Dracorider19 on March 25, 2017, 12:47:32 AM
Okay, I'll be honest but also gentle and somewhat open- I'm not a fan of remakes.
Like many commentators before me on this discusion, I just don't think remakes are
necessary most of the time, unless the original is forgotten or turns out to not really be
good. Original films that have proven to be great and have a good reception don't
need remakes. The string of remakes in recent years, especially Disney's live action
remakes (I'm looking at you Disney) has shown that there's not a lot of original ideas and
Hollywood feels the need to remake many films that were already successful and doesn't need
a remake. (Of course, a remake of a little-known film is an idea I'm open to.)
I don't dislike all remakes, though. I decided to check out the Jungle Book remake
and I admit it was decent and pretty well-made. However, this remake came out almost
50 years after the 1967 original. How much time passes between the original and remake
plays a factor in how a good a remake is.
So, anyway I don't support the idea of an LBT remake. It just wouldn't be the same. Sure
there are ideas for an "updated" remake, but I don't think that's a good reason. The first
LBT may have had some flaws, but the story was timeless. Its message of anti-racism
and working together is an eternal message.
Title: A remake could actually happen.
Post by: ADFan185 on March 25, 2017, 04:16:08 AM
I can agree I did like the message in the original movie a lot and remaking it could be bad and ruin it.
Title: A remake could actually happen.
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 26, 2017, 03:52:17 AM
I would welcome a remake if it stuck to the original story line and was animated like the newer LBT movies (no CGI, and PLEASE, NO live action crap!).  I'd also prefer that they kept the original soundtrack and voices.  Just remake the animation please!  And those cut scenes?  Keep those as a bonus feature that we can watch separately from the movie.  

MLP has spoiled me with the amazing voice talents they've hired.  The voices used in LBT 14 were just downright AWFUL (especially Grandpa longneck, who sounded like some homeless bum with bronchitis that they pulled off the street at the last minute).
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Post by: Sovereign on March 26, 2017, 04:23:39 AM
What's wrong with the animation? The classic Bluth style comes very close to being the greatest-looking animation style of all time and LBT was the high point of the era (imo anyway). If there comes a remake, I think they should keep the animation style very close to the original. The colors, landscapes and the rough overall look of the film are simply put awesome. Also, certain scenes in the film have truly astonishing character animation, for example Littlefoot playing with the treestar. I see the lead animator of the film, John Pomeroy, as the greatest living animator there is and I doubt a remake can improve from his work. (By the way, he's apparently going to return to animation in the Dragon's Lair Film, yay!  :wow ) There are a multitude of great-looking animation styles but the look of original LBT is very close to the best I've seen. The later sequels look very good too (well, mostly) but not as good as the first one. And it's unlikely there's anyone here who would disagree with the publishing of the cut scenes.  :p
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Post by: Sneak on March 26, 2017, 08:35:23 AM
But WHY you want remake if we already have PERFECT original?? (with exception of deleted 11 minutes of scenes, of course...)
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Post by: ADFan185 on March 26, 2017, 11:02:34 AM
Exactly we don't need a remake since the original is amazing and very good just the way it is
Title: A remake could actually happen.
Post by: Belmont2500 on October 14, 2017, 05:11:25 AM
I remember there were murmurings of a remake on the interwebs back in '09 and '10. Turned out to be a hoax.

I don't see how a remake could possibly work, perhaps if Bluth was on board and had full creative control, but even then, I feel the original film was like lightning in a bottle.

Luckily, as proved by the Secret Of Nimh remake that never got off of the ground, it seems that we won't be seeing any remakes of Bluth's work anytime soon.
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Post by: Longneck3050 on October 14, 2017, 08:20:53 AM
I wonder if a remake would include all the deleted scenes, since 10-15 minutes of scenes were cut from the first movie. I wonder if all of it was found.
Title: A remake could actually happen.
Post by: Hypno on October 14, 2017, 11:44:39 AM
Quote from: Longneck3050,Oct 14 2017 on  09:20 AM
I wonder if a remake would include all the deleted scenes, since 10-15 minutes of scenes were cut from the first movie. I wonder if all of it was found.
Pretty sure it hasn’t been found. I really hope something will turn up though.
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Post by: Longneck3050 on October 14, 2017, 11:56:45 AM
Quote from: Hypnobrai,Oct 14 2017 on  10:44 AM
Quote from: Longneck3050,Oct 14 2017 on  09:20 AM
I wonder if a remake would include all the deleted scenes, since 10-15 minutes of scenes were cut from the first movie. I wonder if all of it was found.
Pretty sure it hasn’t been found. I really hope something will turn up though.
Me too
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Post by: Dr. Rex on October 15, 2017, 02:17:52 AM
Crucify me for saying this, but after doing a lot more thinking, I'd actually be open to a remake, no matter how terrible it may be. Why, you ask? Well, a remake could help introduce kids to the original movie, which in turn would expose them to its awesomeness and artistic value.

I know, it sounds totally outlandish, but I base my reasoning off the fact that I've been researching and learning a lot of new things about my childhood favorites ever since I entered college. Someone from the newest generation is bound to research the origins of the hypothetical remake out of curiosity and share it with others.
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Post by: Belmont2500 on November 04, 2017, 02:47:16 PM
Quote from: Dr. Rex,Oct 15 2017 on  01:17 AM
Crucify me for saying this, but after doing a lot more thinking, I'd actually be open to a remake, no matter how terrible it may be. Why, you ask? Well, a remake could help introduce kids to the original movie, which in turn would expose them to its awesomeness and artistic value.

I know, it sounds totally outlandish, but I base my reasoning off the fact that I've been researching and learning a lot of new things about my childhood favorites ever since I entered college. Someone from the newest generation is bound to research the origins of the hypothetical remake out of curiosity and share it with others.
Oh, I think it could be done if in the right hands(if the 2016 remake of Disney's Jungle Book proved anything.)

I just think it ending up in the right hands is a bit unlikely. To be honest and I know I will get flak for this, I think a full continuity reboot would be better if it comes to redoing it from the ground up. Mainly because I think a more direct remake would, even if it were good, remain the shadow of the original film.
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Post by: Dr. Rex on November 04, 2017, 10:27:23 PM
Quote from: Belmont2500,Nov 4 2017 on  01:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Rex,Oct 15 2017 on  01:17 AM
Crucify me for saying this, but after doing a lot more thinking, I'd actually be open to a remake, no matter how terrible it may be. Why, you ask? Well, a remake could help introduce kids to the original movie, which in turn would expose them to its awesomeness and artistic value.

I know, it sounds totally outlandish, but I base my reasoning off the fact that I've been researching and learning a lot of new things about my childhood favorites ever since I entered college. Someone from the newest generation is bound to research the origins of the hypothetical remake out of curiosity and share it with others.
Oh, I think it could be done if in the right hands(if the 2016 remake of Disney's Jungle Book proved anything.)

I just think it ending up in the right hands is a bit unlikely. To be honest and I know I will get flak for this, I think a full continuity reboot would be better if it comes to redoing it from the ground up. Mainly because I think a more direct remake would, even if it were good, remain the shadow of the original film.
That's true too. If LBT is ever going to come back to theaters, it needs to be completely original, even if it's retelling the same story. It'd be pretty dull, or perhaps worse, if it just straight-up remakes the story with, God forbid, mainstream stuff implemented.

God knows I don't need rapping dinosaurs.
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Post by: Snowwolf on November 17, 2017, 09:34:42 PM
So if this remake could happen i would say  little foots  mother would not  die and it could be a perfect begining and a good ending by little foot sees his father :D










Snow wolf
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Post by: DarkHououmon on November 18, 2017, 12:10:38 AM
Quote from: Snowwolf on Nov 17 2017, 08:34:42 PM
So if this remake could happen i would say  little foots  mother would not  die and it could be a perfect begining and a good ending by little foot sees his father :D










Snow wolf
I would have to disagree. Having Littlefoot's mother survive would greatly impact what kind of person Littlefoot would ultimately become. I think this was discussed before. A lot of things would change, and one worth noting is the fact that, had his mother survive and Littlefoot stayed with her, then that means he'd never become friends with Cera and he'd never meet Ducky or Petrie. The consequences of this would be that Cera, Ducky, and Petrie might have remained permanently lost and Spike wouldn't have been found, perhaps even becoming stillborn (as it was Ducky's help that got him to hatch in the first place).

Also another effect is that Littlefoot might never have learned to set aside any prejudiced feelings early; remember, even though his mother saved Cera as well, she was been shown to have some prejudices herself. She is not aggressive about them, but she did actively encourage Littlefoot to look forward to the many "longneck" friends he was going to meet and play with in the valley, and she told him that all dinosaur kinds just stick together with their own. If Littlefoot remained with her, he would have carried this prejudice with him and likely would have been a little similar to Ali as she initially was in the 4th movie. Maybe not terrified, but he would be wary and uncomfortable with other species.

Pretty much, the whole dynamic of the series would change and it would be way different from the LBT we know.
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Post by: Ducky123 on November 18, 2017, 02:09:37 AM
The death of his mother shaped Littlefoot into what and who he is today. The death scene is like... THE key scene of the whole first movie  (maybe aside from killing Sharptooth and finding the valley) so removing it would not be a smart move
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Post by: Dr. Rex on November 19, 2017, 03:40:18 AM
Quote from: Snowwolf on Nov 17 2017, 08:34:42 PM
So if this remake could happen i would say  little foots  mother would not  die and it could be a perfect begining and a good ending by little foot sees his father :D










Snow wolf
...

That's a little TOO original for anyone's tastes...
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Post by: Dr. Rex on April 28, 2018, 03:14:22 AM
At this point, with all these remakes and reboots that are the newest Hollywood rage, I'm willing to bet $100 that they'll eventually dig up LBT and decide to remake/reboot it. I mean, there will come a time when the studios have dug their way to the bottom of the barrel.
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Post by: StardustSoldier on March 30, 2019, 06:03:43 AM
Some good points have been raised. Although I'm personally more open to the idea of a remake than most of the people here are. I'm not desperate for it or anything, but I think it would be interesting to see. While I do love the original film, it is rather short, and in a sense it did leave me wanting more. With a remake, I'd want them to stick fairly close to the original storyline, and to animate it in a similar style. Aside from that, I'd want a longer adventure, which I think would be a great opportunity to expand on parts of the story. Especially if they could incorporate aspects of the removed scenes.

I mean, I think what I really want, and I know I'm not alone here, is to see the uncut version of the original film. But, if that never happens, then a remake seems like it could be the next best thing.

Back to topic:

For me, the requirements for accepting an LBT remake are:
-No pop songs.
-no modern slang.
-Not softening the film's tone.
-Decent child actors as the kids.
-No celebrity voices.
-Fully orchestrated soundtrack. No modern stuff.
-Don Bluth supervising it.
Having Bluth's involvement seems unlikely somehow (as awesome as that would be). But otherwise, I agree with every point.

That said, even I'm skeptical that a remake would be as good as the original film. In particular, having the soundtrack be as memorable as James Horner's original score seems next to impossible. Regardless, if a remake does ever happen, I would absolutely go check it out.
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Post by: Anagnos on April 01, 2019, 03:59:57 AM
I don't really feel that there should be a remake to be done. Like few people here have said it, when it comes to remakes I'm not a fan of them either. I think they are just ways to make more money, when you just can't come up with new ideas. If the day comes that I become a father, I will definitely show my kids the movies that I enjoyed as a kid myself, the original being one of them. And when it comes to keeping the storyline exactly the same, I agree with that. There's really no need to change how the plot goes.
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Post by: Pikkutassu on April 12, 2019, 03:08:43 PM
I don't really feel that there should be a remake to be done. Like few people here have said it, when it comes to remakes I'm not a fan of them either. I think they are just ways to make more money, when you just can't come up with new ideas. If the day comes that I become a father, I will definitely show my kids the movies that I enjoyed as a kid myself, the original being one of them. And when it comes to keeping the storyline exactly the same, I agree with that. There's really no need to change how the plot goes.
Well the newest trailer of the lion king remake seems well made. I wouldn't mind a new Land Before Time with the same treatment, along with a directors cut with all the deleted scenes included.

Spoiler: ShowHide
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TavVZMewpY[/youtube]
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Post by: StardustSoldier on April 12, 2019, 03:21:27 PM
^I agree. Even if a remake wasn't as good as the original, with the right touch I still think it would be worthwhile.
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Post by: Vojeds on April 12, 2019, 03:52:51 PM
I'm not sure about this, remakes are just to make more because people have run out of ideas I mean I don't wanna see the land before time original movie in CGI. Because I know they won't be able to capture what made the original so special x(cera
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Post by: Anagnos on April 13, 2019, 02:38:27 AM
I don't really feel that there should be a remake to be done. Like few people here have said it, when it comes to remakes I'm not a fan of them either. I think they are just ways to make more money, when you just can't come up with new ideas. If the day comes that I become a father, I will definitely show my kids the movies that I enjoyed as a kid myself, the original being one of them. And when it comes to keeping the storyline exactly the same, I agree with that. There's really no need to change how the plot goes.
Well the newest trailer of the lion king remake seems well made. I wouldn't mind a new Land Before Time with the same treatment, along with a directors cut with all the deleted scenes included.

Spoiler: ShowHide
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TavVZMewpY[/youtube]


Well, I do admit that the trailer was good in my opinion, but I still have my doubts that the film itself will be good.
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Post by: StardustSoldier on May 24, 2019, 04:05:29 AM
I've been thinking about it lately. More and more, there is a part of me that would in fact welcome a remake. Why is that? Because I want them to return to the darker tone of the first film, and at this point a remake seems like it's the best chance of that happening.

In fact, I'd like to see them do darker remakes of all the films. Admittedly that seems like a pipe dream, but I'd welcome it all the same. Not to trash the LBT sequels, as I have enjoyed most of them so far... yet, I can't help but long for the tone of the original film.
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Post by: Mouse-a-saur on May 24, 2019, 10:49:42 AM
I'm honestly afraid of them making it look anything like the new Lion King movie. It's far too emotionless when it comes to the expressions of the characters. They're all scary looking and dead-eyed. :sducky
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Post by: ImpracticalDino on May 24, 2019, 11:29:55 PM
In my opinion, the new remake of The Lion King movie seems unnecessary. It feels like a cash grab to me, along with all of the other "live action" remakes they're doing of beloved classics. Why do it? If it's not broken, don't fix it. Don't you wish that companies would do remakes of movies that aren't as good as they should be or completely flop because of one reason or another? It also kind of annoys me how every single thing that's animated has to be converted into a real life or realistic equivalent for some reason. You know, it's animated for a reason. It may look weird or not even make sense with the limitations of what can be represented in the real world.

Well, this is my 2 cents on the topic. :)
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Post by: StardustSoldier on May 25, 2019, 12:03:37 AM
I can't deny the cash grab argument. But, say, if they did do a remake of LBT, would it be any less of a cash grab than all the LBT sequels have been? Again, this isn't me hating on the sequels. But I don't feel that a remake would really be much different in that regard.
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Post by: ImpracticalDino on May 25, 2019, 02:10:51 AM
^Okay, that we can both agree upon. I was talking more about remakes in general for my original post, but yeah you're right for that regard.

It's also kind of weird that lots of us still want more LBT movies despite knowing what will come out of it. But yeah, I want my dinosaurs though! Can't get enough of it tbh. :p
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Post by: Mouse-a-saur on May 26, 2019, 02:34:03 PM
I think that's just what it comes down to, fans want more new content. That's another reason why a "remake" of the original wouldn't fly too well.
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Post by: StardustSoldier on May 26, 2019, 02:55:57 PM
I know I'm in the minority here, but a remake actually makes more sense to me at this point. I sort of feel they've taken it as far as they can with simply making more sequels. A remake could be a good chance to put a fresh new spin on things. The rebooted Planet of the Apes series is proof that, sometimes, starting over is the best way to breathe new life into a franchise. I don't normally feel that way with franchises; usually I prefer a traditional sequel that keeps the same storyline going, rather than hitting the reset button. But with Land Before Time, a 15th film would probably just be another lighthearted musical (which I'd still watch anyway). Whereas the idea of a remake is more interesting to me because then I wonder, how would they take the original film and approach it from a different angle?

I'm not worried about them "ruining" the original Land Before Time, in the sense that it simply couldn't happen for me. I love the original film, and regardless of anything else that happens, I can always go back and watch the original again.

I'm with ImpracticalDino though, in that I do want the franchise to continue on somehow. I'm okay if it takes a while, but I hope something comes eventually, regardless of whether it's a remake, a sequel, a TV series continuation, or whatever else.
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Post by: Mouse-a-saur on May 26, 2019, 03:06:52 PM
I'm just worried that an entire rebooted franchise would throw out over ten movies worth of canon story. It's not that a remade movie would ruin the original, I'm just fearful of it disregarding or covering up years of content.

I wish there was a way to sort of "recap" the other movies and continue the story into another movie without having "sequel-slog" (decay in quality).
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Post by: StardustSoldier on May 26, 2019, 03:27:38 PM
That's a good point. But I guess for me it's less of an issue because there isn't really a ton of continuity anyway, at least not after the first two films. There are recurring characters, but most of the Gang's adventures per film are relatively standalone. So I guess I just wonder, how much further can the original timeline go? (Although mind you, I've only seen up to film #10 as of this writing, so I may feel different once I've seen the whole series.)

That, and while I'm still skeptical they could ever top the original film, there are aspects of the sequels that I wish had been rewritten or done with more polish (ie. how come Ali never returned, despite the ending of the fourth film implying she would?). There's plenty of good things about the sequels too, but that's all the more reason why I wish someone would take those good ideas and iron them out.
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Post by: Mouse-a-saur on May 26, 2019, 06:05:23 PM
I guess I'm just wishing for a really incredible, all-encompassing sequel that ties up loose ends from previous movies and leaves it open for something new. Super wishful thinking, I know, but I'd much prefer that over the typical "remake".
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Post by: ImpracticalDino on May 26, 2019, 09:31:48 PM
Honestly, there are just so many questions for me that are left unanswered. Like, how did Chomper even learn leaf eater in the first place? Why couldn't Chomper's Parents easily defeat Red Claw? When and how was Ruby entrusted to be Chomper's guardian? Are Chomper's Parents still alive? Will they make another appearance for a future sequel? Well, mostly these questions are derived from the TV series, but hopefully they would have some kind of explanation for these things. There's probably more questions than that, but I haven't seen most of the movies yet to know.

Stardust, Mouse? Are there questions boggling your mind that really needs to be explained too?
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Post by: Mouse-a-saur on May 27, 2019, 08:39:48 AM
 I think it would be fascinating to go deeper into sharptooth/leafeater relations in that sense, Impractical. It could explain Chomper’s ease in communication, and open up other doors in terms of story.
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Post by: StardustSoldier on June 02, 2019, 09:55:15 AM
@ImpracticalDino: Aside from my aforementioned question about Ali, probably my other biggest niggling question is the issue of Cera's mother and sisters, who were seen in the original film, but afterwards it's not clear what become of them. Especially because Ducky and Petrie were explicitly shown to have siblings, so I find it bizarre that Cera's nestmates vanished. It would've been interesting to see what Cera's sisters were like. Did they act similar to her, or did they have different personalities? For that matter, did she have any brothers?
:cerahappy

In particular, Cera's mother. Did she die? Because if so, I feel that was an incredibly wasted storyline. Cera losing her mother would've given her and Littlefoot something to bond over. Even if Cera's mom didn't die, I still would've loved to have either had her as a recurring character, or else to know what happened to her.
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Post by: ImpracticalDino on June 02, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
^Yeah, what annoys me about some of the movies is the clear inconsistencies between the newer and older ones. That only plagues us with more questions than answers. I also agree with you about potential storylines being neglected because of those questions never being answered.

I'm also curious how the Gang of Seven would be in their teenage years, and even as adults.
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Post by: StardustSoldier on June 02, 2019, 02:37:28 PM

I'm also curious how the Gang of Seven would be in their teenage years, and even as adults.

Me too. I'm happy the first several sequels still had them as kids, but then after that it would've been interesting to see them grow up.
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Post by: Mouse-a-saur on June 02, 2019, 09:12:30 PM
That might be something neat for them to try, an aged up Gang of seven. :olittlefoot
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Post by: Anagnos on June 03, 2019, 06:54:10 AM
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That might be something neat for them to try, an aged up Gang of seven.

I would love something like that.  :^^spike
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Post by: Mouse-a-saur on June 04, 2019, 11:21:29 AM
It would certainly allow for more complex and varied storylines. :thinking
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Post by: ImpracticalDino on June 04, 2019, 07:22:43 PM
I wonder how Chomper's role could play out once they become teens or adults. Would he be forced to leave the Great Valley? Will he defeat Red Claw? How will the relationship between him and the other six, specifically Littlefoot be? Do they still trust him? True friends would still be by his side obviously, even when he's forced to eat other flattooth to sustain his maturing body. And that'd be a concept I like to see be touched upon. This could be a very emotional movie/storyline if executed correctly. :)
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Post by: Anagnos on June 05, 2019, 05:00:37 AM
I believe that Chomper would most certainly have to leave the Great Valley at some point. I doubt the residents there would want a sharptooth living nearby, no matter how nice Chomper is. I do think that the Gang would still stay friends, despite being apart. And yeah, true friends never forget each other. I quite agree with you, Impractical, about seeing the Gang all grown up. ;)
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Post by: Mouse-a-saur on June 05, 2019, 02:13:51 PM
That'd be really heavy, the others having to come to terms with the fact that Chomper's gotta eat dinosaurs like them.
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Post by: Anagnos on June 06, 2019, 03:42:38 AM
I could see them accept it but wouldn't like it very much. Put yourself in their position. Would you?
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Post by: Mouse-a-saur on June 06, 2019, 11:28:08 AM
Littlefoot could probably handle it best but characters like Cera would probably have the hardest time. I wouldn't even blame her.
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Post by: Chomper123 on July 21, 2019, 05:13:01 AM
Well even if there was for any reason a modern remake, it might advertise a chance for more people that havent seen the original to watch it and to possibly develop a love for it and to see how much better it is compared to any cgi remake that is made  :SmugSpike
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Post by: StardustSoldier on August 18, 2019, 03:17:59 AM
While I'm still open to the idea of a remake, I too am apprehensive about it potentially being CGI, moreso than I was before. I don't mind that Disney has been doing their remakes in live-action/realish-CGI, but my gut feeling is that it wouldn't work as well for Land Before Time. It could fall into uncanny valley territory and/or the characters wouldn't be as expressive. If a remake ever happens, I hope it's animated.
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Post by: ImpracticalDino on August 18, 2019, 01:28:07 PM
^Well, The Lion King remake does suffer from that same uncanny valley. Almost everyone I've seen on the internet has expressed their complaints about how emotionless they look. And it's true, since animals don't convey emotions the same way that humans do. They mainly use body language rather than facial expression to convey that emotion. A normal human audience can't sympathize or relate with the characters if they have no idea what they're feeling at all. That is why most, if not all movies with animals as the main cast would not work under "live action". So naturally, I'd agree with your stance that if Universal remakes The Land Before Time, it should be animated. Disney can boast their photorealism as much as they want, but the end product of those remakes would leave many people bitterly disappointed.

According to Google, this is their definition of live action.

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live ac·tion
/ˌlīv ˈakSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: live action

    (in filmmaking) action involving real people or animals, as contrasted with animation or computer-generated effects.
    "a live-action version of the cartoon"

But yet with Disney, the only thing that is actually real in their live action movies is the people themselves and the ground. Eh, the movies wouldn't be as successfully if they advertised it as a "photorealistic real life movie remake" instead of "live action."

So, every decision that Disney has made so far are actually good ones in the perspective of business. They're preying on everyone's nostalgia, and therefore sucking their wallets dry and earning them big bank. Disney is doing everything right to earn as much money as possible, at least in the short term. They're reusing and taking ideas from the old movies that are already made, and therefore the output is a lot of money for very little risk. It seems like they can't afford to do something a bit more original and have that movie possibly bomb in the box office. Yet again, that makes total sense in a business viewpoint. I wonder how many live action remakes they can go through before the public craze finally starts to die down. I don't know honestly.
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Post by: StardustSoldier on August 29, 2019, 01:46:55 PM
Did you ever see the Maleficent remake? That one was pretty good, and quite different from its source material too.
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Post by: Sneak on August 29, 2019, 02:32:44 PM
Did you ever see the Maleficent remake? That one was pretty good, and quite different from its source material too.
*imagines how Sharptooth the Good Guy, as protagonist, kicks turned-to-evil-by-vengeance longneck from tower cliff to water deep.*   :bestsharptooth
Title: Re: A remake could actually happen.
Post by: StardustSoldier on August 29, 2019, 04:03:17 PM
Now that would be something.
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Post by: ImpracticalDino on August 29, 2019, 04:52:44 PM
No, I haven't. And yes, I did knew at the time about some live action remakes which were considered good by many people.


*imagines how Sharptooth the Good Guy, as protagonist, kicks turned-to-evil-by-vengeance longneck from tower cliff to water deep.*   :bestsharptooth

I can imagine that a certain orange threehorn will be very pleased by the news, hmm? :cerahappy

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Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 22, 2019, 07:58:59 PM
I know I'm in the minority here, but a remake actually makes more sense to me at this point. I sort of feel they've taken it as far as they can with simply making more sequels. A remake could be a good chance to put a fresh new spin on things. The rebooted Planet of the Apes series is proof that, sometimes, starting over is the best way to breathe new life into a franchise. I don't normally feel that way with franchises; usually I prefer a traditional sequel that keeps the same storyline going, rather than hitting the reset button. But with Land Before Time, a 15th film would probably just be another lighthearted musical (which I'd still watch anyway). Whereas the idea of a remake is more interesting to me because then I wonder, how would they take the original film and approach it from a different angle?

I'm not worried about them "ruining" the original Land Before Time, in the sense that it simply couldn't happen for me. I love the original film, and regardless of anything else that happens, I can always go back and watch the original again.

I'm with ImpracticalDino though, in that I do want the franchise to continue on somehow. I'm okay if it takes a while, but I hope something comes eventually, regardless of whether it's a remake, a sequel, a TV series continuation, or whatever else.
I've actually changed my tune in this regard. If they can do it well, they should go for it.
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Post by: StardustSoldier on November 23, 2019, 11:24:24 PM
^I don't have much to say beyond what I've already said, but yeah, I agree.
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Post by: Dr. Rex on January 22, 2020, 06:48:09 AM
I know I'm in the minority here, but a remake actually makes more sense to me at this point. I sort of feel they've taken it as far as they can with simply making more sequels. A remake could be a good chance to put a fresh new spin on things. The rebooted Planet of the Apes series is proof that, sometimes, starting over is the best way to breathe new life into a franchise. I don't normally feel that way with franchises; usually I prefer a traditional sequel that keeps the same storyline going, rather than hitting the reset button. But with Land Before Time, a 15th film would probably just be another lighthearted musical (which I'd still watch anyway). Whereas the idea of a remake is more interesting to me because then I wonder, how would they take the original film and approach it from a different angle?

I'm not worried about them "ruining" the original Land Before Time, in the sense that it simply couldn't happen for me. I love the original film, and regardless of anything else that happens, I can always go back and watch the original again.

I'm with ImpracticalDino though, in that I do want the franchise to continue on somehow. I'm okay if it takes a while, but I hope something comes eventually, regardless of whether it's a remake, a sequel, a TV series continuation, or whatever else.
I've actually changed my tune in this regard. If they can do it well, they should go for it.
Same here. As a fan of the rebooted Planet of the Apes films, I think it'll help the LBT franchise a lot if they released a reboot of the same caliber. As long as the people working on it know what they are doing and care a lot about the source material, nothing can possibly go wrong.