The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Amaranthine on January 28, 2010, 05:32:37 AM
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Bascially list your top ten LBT villians if you have any faves. :)
These are mine. ^^
10. Swimming Sharptooth
9. Thud
8. Sharptooth
7. Sharptooth in LBT 5
6. Ichy
5. Dil
4. Strut
3. Ozzy
2. Rinkus
1. Sierra
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Don't think I can get to ten but here are mine:
1.The Original Sharptooth.
2.Strut.
3.Ozzy.
4.Chomper's parents.
5.The swimming sharptooth.
6.Sierra.
7.Rinkus.
8.Ichy.
9.Dil.
10.The sharpteeth from the third movie.
Edit:Ah, it seems that I was able to get to ten afterall. :lol
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I can't make this top 10 because there were less than 10 villains in LBT
Sharpteeth can't be called villains, because they act only for survival, even Ichy and Dil, they all were led by natural hunger and instinct of survival
as for others I agree and here is my top
1 Rinkus(came up with idea to betray Pterano)
2 Sierra
3 Ozzy
4 Pterano(wanted to rule the Great Valley)
5 Hyp
6 Mutt
7 Nod
8 Strut (Not really a villian, offensive actions were caused by his brother)
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Don't think I can get to ten but here are mine:
2.Strut.
Wow you really think that nayive Strut is more evil than Rinkus and sierra?
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9 Strut (Not really a villian, offensive actions were caused by his brother)
Generally I tend to agree, but remember that Strut was the one of the two who came up with the idea of murdering Littlefoot by throwing him from the Great Wall.
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9 Strut (Not really a villian, offensive actions were caused by his brother)
Generally I tend to agree, but remember that Strut was the one of the two who came up with the idea of murdering Littlefoot by throwing him from the Great Wall.
Well if his brother wouldn't make him hate them, he wouldn't want it, and also he wanted to revenge for all those scratches ge got because of them, and I don't think they would die if they jumped from there, If I remember well, it wasn't too steep
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sorry, doublepost
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Far as I know, Ozzy did not make Strut hate Littlefoot. He didn't constantly tell him "hate those children for what they did!". If Strut hated Littlefoot, he would have hated him on his own terms, for his own reasons, not because Ozzy told him to. The only thing Ozzy told him to do was stop eating plants and eat eggs, from what I recall.
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To say that The Original Sharptooth wasn't a villain is a big, fat, ugly lie!
Those who have read the book that goes into deeper detail of this character (*Glances at Malte*) probably understands my philosophy on this one. Yes, it is probably true that he was hunting for food in the first place, but after what Littlefoot did to him, (Accidentally getting a thorn in his eye.) this monster was then out for cold-blooded revenge.
Littlefoot's Mother than got in the way and took him on, but got killed because she was just simply in the way and preventing him from killing Littlefoot. Of course, we all know that Sharptooth got knocked off a cliff in the end, but was only stunned from it. (Seriously, how did he survive that one?)
After waking up, Sharptooth hunted them down. He found the gang in a footprint and went after them. The end result was getting his nose stuck.
Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he planned to head straight to the valley and hide at the entrance just to cut them off and kill them. However, the gang lured him into a trap and drowned him. However, does anyone realize how close this one was? I mean, he actually jumped to the very top of the cliff and landed on rock as an attempt to take them down with him. Petrie was the one who nearly suffered this fate.
To say that this guy isn't a villain, means that all the other ones who are portrayed as villains in the sequels aren't ones as well. Sharptooth was THE definition of villain. He was more of a threat and his intention was to kill them in cold blood.
Seriously, doesn't that sound like a villain to you? Sure does to me. :)
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To say that The Original Sharptooth wasn't a villain is a big, fat, ugly lie!
No it isn't John. It is an opinion shared by many and with some good points to give substance to it. Don't be so quick to accuse anyone of lying.
Don Bluth for once had serious problems considering Sharptooth a real villain.
In his Toon Talk magazine (volume 2 Nomber 1 of January 2001) Don Bluh devoted an entire article to Sharptooth in which he wrote:
[...]I was never sure what qualified the Rex as a villain. Was he deficient in kindness and mercy? No! Was he evolutionary arrested or retarded? No! Simply put, he was hungry. It is the law of nature to seek out foot to satiate the appetite. So I reasoned, how could I hate the beast for doing what nature instinctively ordained? Just because he was big, growling and hungry didn't make him malevolent. He needed to step outside nature's boundaries to be a bad guy, embrace brutality over compassion, and harbor a vendetta or a grudge that could twist his soul into an unnatural existende. That would be a true villain. Creative ideas are born out of conflict. I wanted a more dimensional bad guy, but I was outnumbered, and finally caved in.
Steven and George, in fact, the whole team, felt that the Rex's teeth did the job. More evil could be over-kill. If something can bite you that's reason enough to fear it. The dinosaur children, simply put, are terrorized by their natural enemy.
Although I knew our story would pack a dramatic wallop to the audience if they could hate Rex, not just fear him, I grea weary of pitching the idea. [...]
In addition to that the entire rear cover of the respective toon talk magazine shows a picture of sharptooth with the line: Sharp Tooth isn't really bad, he's just been grumpy all his life...
...he'll get over it.
If we accept the need to eat as not sufficient to qualify for being a villain the one point that remains could be Sharptooth's being out for revenge about having an eye scratched (or even loosing it) during the pursuit of Littlefoot through the thorny thicket. There is a book which mentions such a motive . The land before time - the illustrated story" has these passages:
At the very last moment Littlefoot freed himself. One of the hard thorny branches snapped back and hit Sharptooth right in the eye. The monster bellowed in pain and reared back from the brambles. Then, with a terrible fury, he plunged back into the thicket, searching for the puny creature that had dared to injure him.
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A terrible and familiar roar suddenly shook the air. Through the fog the young travelers saw, to their horror, the huge shape of Sharptooth. and because of Littlefoot's yelling, he saw them too! With another terribly cry, the big beast thundered toward them, his enormous mouth wide open and his one good eye glinting with hatred.
We don't know if any of the Sharptooth scenes that were cut because they were deemed "too scary" included any closer reference about such a revenge motive. Many here however would consider Littlefoot's motive for getting rid of Shartptooth to be primarily revenge (I disagree on that being the prime motive) without thinking of Littlefoot as a "villain" as a consequence.
Because we like the LBT characters and don't want them to be killed and eaten Sharptooth must appear as the "bad one" to us.
We can ask whether or not sharptooth was deliberately pursuing Littlefoot to take revenge for his eye. Maybe he was, but as apparently many herds were headed in the direction of the Great Valley Sharptooth's coming across the group two more times after the earthquake may have been purely coincidental as well.
Either way there are plenty of "revenge stories" in which the "avenging angel" though he or she may not necessarily be a good person does not play the part of the villain either.
It is similar about the LBT one sharptooth. For the characters and the audience who sympathizes with them Sharptooth must appear as the bad one, but if examined for non natural viciousness of any kind there is not much to find that we could hold against him. Like Rooter said "it is nobody's fault". I do not know if that quote was meant to include Sharptooth (probably not judging from the context that Littlefoot had blamed himself and his mother before), but it could just as easily be interpreted to include him.
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Wow Malte279 that was some quote to my opinion about sharpteeth :idea
Oh and I remembered what said Princess of Waterfall city in Dinotopia about T-rexes "They are not evil they are just hungry by nature"If somebody watched Dinotopia will understand
As for Strut DarkHououmon, I'm agree, it's just I liked him the first time I watched LBT 2 eight years ago, he seems so innocent until agreed with Ozzy to push the gang off the wall
Maybe some of us think Characters like Rhet and Shorty could be called villians?
And maybe Topsy?
I think Topsy can be called a villian in some way, because of a huge portion of racism inside, though in later sequels after Tria came he got better about it
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Wow you really think that naive Strut is more evil than Rinkus and Sierra?
Yes I do actually, Strut came up with the plan to kill Littlefoot (it was not Ozzy) and maybe if it was not for Chomper and the timely arrival of Chomper's parents then Littlefoot (and Chomper) may have been killed. After all, Murder is one of the most evil acts anyone can preform.
However that is just an opinion. Quite similar to your opinion that Rinkus and Sierra are evil by their betrayal of Pterano. :)
And maybe Topsy?
I think Topsy can be called a villian in some way, because of a huge portion of racism inside, though in later sequels after Tria came he got better about it
Topsy may be racist but he, I don't think should be classed as a villain. As racism doesn't tend to make one evil unless one does take it totally out of porpotion (ie:genocide).It just makes one uneduacted and misguided. As you said Topsy does become much better in the sequels, perhaps it is through a better understanding?
Perhaps the sea monster could also be classed as a villian?
After all he looks the part of a monsterous villain who pursues the gang and Mo to the big water.
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Yes I do actually, Strut came up with the plan to kill Littlefoot (it was not Ozzy) and maybe if it was not for Chomper and the timely arrival of Chomper's parents then Littlefoot (and Chomper) may have been killed.
I think though that at that point Ozzy was determined to kill Littlefoot himself. Strut's suggestion of the method of killing Littlefoot did not spark the general idea. It just showed that Strut was not quite as innocent as he had appeared so far making him just a little more active (rather than his brothers reluctant follower only) in that scene.
Perhaps the sea monster could also be classed as a villian?
The swimming sharptooth from LBT 9 has been in my opinion the most impressive sharptooth we got to see since the one in the original movie. But same as that one it was mostly the call of nature the Swimming sharptooth of LBT 9 was following. Any other motive can hardly be attributed to the swimming sharptooth not only for lack of a different motive, but also for the fact that this swimming sharptooth abandoned any search for for when realizing that the ocean was nearby.
On a totally different note, one of the things I that I found disappointing about LBT 9 was that they just didn't show anything of Mo and the swimming sharptooth after it was clear that they were trapped together in the small pond in the Great Valley. Also they must have been locked up there together for quite a while (for as long as it took Littlefoot to tell the grownups about Mo). In all that time between the first escape from the swimming sharptooth until meeting Mo again after the earthquake there was NOTHING at all to suggest that Littlefoot or any of the others worried about Mo or the general presence of that huge swimming sharptooth. I think they would have done a lot better if they had included a chase scene there in which Mo lured the sharptooth into the underwater cave where that sharptooth caused the rockslide with a gap small enough for Mo to get out but not for the sharptooth. That would have made a lot more sense than the sharptooth's conveniently swimming into that cave to be conveniently trapped there by the earthquake while nobody seems to feel in any way inconvenient about that sharptooth until the earthquake solved the matter temporarily.
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Wow you really think that naive Strut is more evil than Rinkus and Sierra?
Yes I do actually, Strut came up with the plan to kill Littlefoot (it was not Ozzy) and maybe if it was not for Chomper and the timely arrival of Chomper's parents then Littlefoot (and Chomper) may have been killed. After all, Murder is one of the most evil acts anyone can preform.
However that is just an opinion. Quite similar to your opinion that Rinkus and Sierra are evil by their betrayal of Pterano. :)
Actually his evil brother Ozzy pushed him him to all these actions, I don't think Strut wanted to kill the gang, just to feel the same pain he did when he fel
As for Rinkus and Sierra, in case if you don't remember, Sierra was very cruel by himself and Rinkus suggested to threaten to kill Littlefoot to make him tell the trio where is the Stone of Cold Fire,
(http://s001.radikal.ru/i194/1001/12/954e245ca090.jpg)
but Pterano stopped him, if it was only up to Rinkus and Sierra I'm sure someone of the gang could die of their cruelty, this is why I am sure they are the top villians in LBT
Topsy may be racist but he, I don't think should be classed as a villain. As racism doesn't tend to make one evil unless one does take it totally out of porpotion (ie:genocide)
Actually he almost killed Littlefoot by his racism, by sending off Doc, if Doс listened to Cera's dad Litlefoot would be killed by hurricane
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Actually he almost killed Littlefoot by his racism, by sending off Doc, if Doс listened to Cera's dad Litlefoot would be killed by hurricane
Now if we are to label anyone a villain the unforseeable consequences of his or her actions we will end with a rather villainous world. Is Littlefoot is a villain for his LBT 11 lie and for every action of his that almost got someone killed, same goes for Cera in many cases (e.g. for speaking up to pursue the eggeaters themselves which could have get them killed), Petrie would be evil for telling Pterano about where the stone of cold fire, Ducky would be an incarnation of evil for wandering of alone in LBT 8 to get Spike back (thereby making the others risk their lives when they followed her), and Spike would be evil for deciding to go with the Spiketails in the first place thereby making everyone go after him.
Vicious world! Darth Vader everywhere :cry
Whether or not the consequences are really foreseeable does make a difference I think.
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Malte279 But other characters didn't offend others constantly as Mr Threehorn did, we all make mistakes sometimes and it doesn't make us bad.
Topsy was mean almost all the time until Tria came
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I'm sorry, but regardless of what ANYONE (Even Don Bluth) says, I just can't see Sharptooth as not being a villain. His actions in the movie just don't seem like an "instinct of nature" to me.
I'm terribly sorry, but to me, he is a villain. Bottom line. -_-
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I'm sorry, but regardless of what ANYONE (Even Don Bluth) says, I just can't see Sharptooth as not being a villain. His actions in the movie just don't seem like an "instinct of nature" to me.
I'm terribly sorry, but to me, he is a villain. Bottom line. -_-
What actions in the movie did Sharptooth do that were not an act of instinct that make you so sure that Sharptooth wasn't a villain?
Killing Littlefoot's mother is an act of instinct. He's a predator; that's what predators do to survive. This action wasn't out of spite nor was it act of vengeance on Sharptooth's part.
Attacking Littlefoot and his friends is also an act of instinct. Again he's a predator. And there's not as many dinos around (due to the land now being barren) so it could be that, when Littlefoot and the others ran into him again, he was starving to the point where he was desperate for anything, even something as small as the children dinosaurs.
True, he could have been out to avenge his eye, although there isn't as strong of evidence in the movie for this. But even so, avenging an eye is not a strong qualification of a villain, in my opinion. Yes, it does make Sharptooth seem more heinous, trying to kill Littlefoot for something that was a mistake, but that doesn't necessarily make Sharptooth some grand villain.
In the end, the only action that Sharptooth does that could make him some kinda villain, that would might have been "out of nature", is him avenging his eye, which we don't know was even a strong motivation in the movie. It may have been a bit stronger in the book, but in the movie there isn't much of a hint that Sharptooth wants revenge on Littlefoot. And even if he did, how long did this vendetta last? Can we be certain that Sharptooth was so evil that he would continue to hold a vendetta against Littlefoot?
Anyway, here's my list of top 10 LBT antagonists:
10. Chomper's parents
9. Swimming Sharptooth from LBT 11
8. Dil and Ichy
7. Hyp, Nod, and Mutt
6. Pterano
5. Strut
4. Sierra
3. Rinkus
2. Ozzy
1. The Original Sharptooth
Keep in mind that though antagonists are the opposing force or a opposing force in a story, they do not always have to be evil. They don't even have to be alive; tornadoes and earthquakes can qualify as antagonists, for example.
I chose the original Sharptooth as 1 not because I consider him the baddest villain, but the scariest antagonist.
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You know, I never thought of Pterano as a villain, an anti-hero definitely, but no...not a villain, he redeemed himself in the end and saved Ducky.
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That's why I said antagonist, not villain. The difference between the two is that, while villains tend to be evil, antagonists don't have to be. An antagonist can actually be a really sweet, kind-hearted character. Like villains they are the opposing force to the main character(s) (which Pterano was in LBT 7, along with Rinkus and Sierra), but unlike villains they aren't always so mean and nasty (such as Pterano).
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^ I never looked at the definition that way. :p It's just people think that antagonist=villain. Here's the definition(s) of an antagonist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antagonist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antagonist)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ANTAGONIST (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ANTAGONIST)
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antagonist (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antagonist)
That's what the "anti-villain" term is for, for characters that have villain characteristics can turn good in the end, or have good intentions.
So...it's a tricky issue here. I guess it's just all matters of opinion when it comes to antagonists.
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It's something I learned in english class. We were taught that antagonists were the "opposing force" of a story. Villains are probably the most common antagonist, however they aren't the only kind. For instance, inanimate objects, such as the weather, can be antagonists if they provide opposition for the protagonist(s).
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You know, I never thought of Pterano as a villain, an anti-hero definitely, but no...not a villain, he redeemed himself in the end and saved Ducky.
Personally I don't see Pterano as a villian at the end, I just think he was a villian when he wanted to rule the Great valley, also before the end he manipulated Petrie to find SoCF
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Thought I would bump this since I know a certain individual here likes the villians. ;) :angel
*shifty eyes*
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Glad you did.:)
I don't see Pterano as the antagonist, it is more that he was set on his own importance, that doesn't make him bad just misguided. And through misguidance he allowed himself to be influenced by Rinkas and Sierra who fuelled his ego for their own purpose. In the end, Pterano did prove to be decent.
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I still see Pterano as the antagonist. Antagonists don't have to be evil. They just need to be the opposing force, and Pterano surely was that in the movie, along with Rinkus and Sierra.
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Oooooooo!!!!!! This thread has my name written all over it!!!
Thought I would bump this since I know a certain individual here likes the villians.
*shifty eyes*
.........I dunno what your talking about.... *even more shifty eyed!!* Though you probably ain't talking about me, I'm glad you bumped it!
Top Ten Antagonists :D would go as followed (and I'mma make it padded out with more screenshots than necessary cuz it's fun!! :p ) :
# 1. Sierra!!!
Reason: Whoooooo!!!! "Who cares?! Once we take over, first thing I'm gonna do is feed them overgrown eggs to the sharpteeth!" Yipes!! Such a violent nature!! :blink: .......I LOVE IT!!!
# 2-4. (I can't decide which I like better)
-Domeheads from the first movie!!
Reason: Look at them!! They're obviously psychotic :DD !! And judging from these smirks....
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m596/FlipperBoidSkua/Domehead4.jpg)
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m596/FlipperBoidSkua/MoreDomeheads.jpg)
...they certainly seem to be taking enjoyment out of attacking (very VERY likely with the intention to kill) a scared and helpless little hatchling like Cera.
-Thud!!!
Reason: Yes, he's part of the antagonistic trio, but at the same time, he's a good sharptooth deep down! That's even more depth than Redclaw! Plus, he's a raptor and raptors will always be cool by my opinion!
-Ozzy!!!
Reason: Love the Egg song and his obsession with eggs. "Those kids have ruined our lunch....for the last time...." Nice growl there, dude! :^.^:
#5-7. (again can't decide!!)
-The Magical Liopleurodon!!
Reason: Liopleurodons are awesome, this one won't be an exception! The dark color and the pupil-less yellow eyes and the menacing background music! I mean, look at this:
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m596/FlipperBoidSkua/EPIC.jpg)
How is that not epic!? :DD
-The Plated Sharptooth!!
Reason: He's smart and he can jump like Sharptooth!! See!!
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m596/FlipperBoidSkua/NinjaJump2.jpg)
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m596/FlipperBoidSkua/NinjaJump.jpg)
And plus, he does something almost never seen in the LBT!!
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m596/FlipperBoidSkua/Blood.jpg)
He draws blood!! I LOVE THAT!!
-Sharptooth!!!
Reason: ......Do I really need to say anything? :p
#8. LBT 3 Sharpteeth!!
Reason: Remember what I said with Thud? Raptors are always cool! Plus, they're black and red, my two fav colors! :D
#9. LBT 12 Spinosaurus
Reason: I like spinosaurus in general and the only problem I had with this dude is that he seemed to have forgotten how to swallow. My Theory on that: He just woke up and after the attack, he's still sleepy and relaxed and perhaps saw no reason to rush, seeing as his prey seemingly had no chance of getting away at that point. *shrugs* That's just me, though. Besides, I like his laugh. :^.^:
#10. LBT 10 Belly Dragger (not the nonthreatening Rexes!!)
Reason:
Kids- :argue
Belly Dragger- ........
Kids- :argue
Belly Dragger- ............ :anger
Kids- :argue
Belly Dragger- <_<
Me- :lol
Plus he survived being stepped on by a giant Longneck. I gotta give him props for that! :)
That was fun!! I hope I entertained you guys!! :D
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In no particular order:
Pterano- He's just such a cool character. He's sinister, charming, and acts like he walked right out of a Shakespeare play (Kinda reminds me of Richard III)! That voice of his is pretty awesome too, especially since he was actually voiced by someone famous. And of course, his soft side.
And yes, I do count Pterano as a villain, or at least an antagonist.
Sharptooth (original)- Just plain evil! Fast, savage, brutal, and through the eyes of a young child, downright terrifying! Plus, looking at him and comparing him to real T-rexes, it looks like he's especially powerful (I dunno if real ones could jump like that!)
The Belly Dragger- It's one of the best instances of a sharptooth displaying character, with him just growing increasingly impatient as he waits for the kids to go close to him. Hilarious every time. Also, the sudden lighting change when he attacks, just really set everything up.
Not to mention, he survives being stepped on by a Longneck! His spine must be titanium or something!
Ozzy and Strut- Machivellian, sinister, and they compliment eachother so well. Both bumbling at times, and both sinister and dangerous at times. I particularly loved Ozzy's reaction when he learned that his dinner-egg had hatched.
Ozzy: :blink: ....It...HATCHED?!...Before I could eat it, MY EGG HATCHED?!!!
Ichy and Dil- Once again, they just compliment eachother well, and it makes for some funny moments and conversations when they know that despite the fact that they despise eachother, neither of them can make it on their own, since only one of them is dangerous, and only the other one can see well. Their duet song sums it up nicely.
Hyp- Oh, everyone finds this guy cool. Just summing up the classic evil-teen stereotype, and looking the part. Also, in "When You're Big", you can really hear the brutality in his voice. Just a shame they edited it out in the DVD copy I have.
....And, tha's as many as I can think of that I particularly like.
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The original Sharptooth is the #1 LBT villian! Why? Because he survived a 100+ foot drop in the canyon caused by the earthquake in the 1st movie,He jumped at least 60 feet in the air, and it seemed that he wanted revenge on littlefoot and anyone with him because of the thorn littlefoot caused to hit him in the eye. That and his eyes are blood red.
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Generally I tend to agree, but remember that Strut was the one of the two who came up with the idea of murdering Littlefoot by throwing him from the Great Wall.
This is just my opinion, and I hope that saying this won't offend, but I honestly think that Strut doesn't have the heart to really kill anyone.
I mean, Ozzy most certainly does, but I still just can't help but think this.
Whenever I look at Strut, I see a trapped child, under the influence of his brother's abusive actions.
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I don't think I'll get to ten... maybe. This is probably more of a top five.
1. Sharptooth in the original movie
2. Rinkus
3. Sierra
4. Ichy
5. Ozzy
6. Sharptooth in 5 (not Chomper's parents, the one they fought)
7. Allosaur in 6
8. Swimming sharptooth in 9
9. Dil
Eh, I made it to nine. I didn't include Pterano as I see him more as an antagonist, not a villain. Though if I did include him, he'd be either one or two on the list due to his complexity and sophistication. XD
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In the order I find most memorable:
1. Rinkus
2. Sierra
3. Sharptooth from the first film
4. Itchy
5. Dil
6. Ozzy
7. Strut
8. The domeheads from the first film ( they scared me so much when I was little )
I can't think of any ones I particularly liked. I think the villains I find most interesting are the ones that rely on each other, like Rinkus and Sierra, and Itchy and Dil.
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1. Sharptooth in the original movie
2. Sharptooth in 5 movie
3. Swimming sharptooth in 5 movie
4. Itchy
5. Dil
6. Sierra
7. Rinkus
8. Swimming sharptooth in 9
9. Ozzy
10. Strut
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1. Rinkus
2. Sharptooth
3. Sierra
4. Gigantosaurus (from #5)
5. Swimming Sharptooth (from #9)
6. Allosaurus (from # 6)
7. Bellydragger (from # 10)
8. Domeheads (from #1)
9. Chomper's Parents
10. Ozzy
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I do not have a top ten list. In fact, I don't think there can be a top ten because very few of these characters are legitimate "villains". Here is why I think this is the case.
Original film: There are no villains in this movie. This is just a life story about the dinosaurs. The original sharptooth is not a villain, he is just hungry.
LBT2: I wouldn't necessarily call Ozzy and Strut evil nor would I truly call them villains. They are mischievous and harmful but I still can not consider them villains.
LBT3: No villains here. Hyp and his gang was just a nuisance to the kids. I do not consider any Bullies as villains.
LBT4: Ichy and Dil are not villains because I feel they are just too incompetent and uninteresting. Intimidation is the least of there problems.
LBT5: No villains. Another hungry sharptooth.
LBT6: Another hungry but less competent sharpteeth.
LBT7: Rinkus, Sierra, and Pterano are the only characters I find to be villains because they actually have goals. And that is to take over the great valley. Pterano is manipulative and cunning, Rinkus and Sierra are cruel and uncaring characters.
LBT8: No villains...
LBT9: Still no villains. Just a hungry swimming sharptooth.
LBT10: No villains...
LBT11: Just ticklish hungry sharpteeth... <_<
LBT12: ...
LBT13: :slap Nothing...
So, yeah, thats why I can't come up with 10 "villains".
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1.sharptooth cuz he freaked me out as a kid cuz when you look like this -->(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KXJ5Au3IDsU/SrHXx3rRDxI/AAAAAAAAD8Y/v4eRAP0InVg/s320/300px-Original_Sharptooth.jpg) and you do what he does you know he's epic
2.pleated sharptooth hello he draws blood
3.the raptors from LBT 3 the only sharpteeth that almost killed the grown ups(http://images.wikia.com/landbeforetime/images/8/88/Cap0002.JPG)
4.swimming sharptooth LBT9
5.the crocodile
6.rinkus and sierra they're funny but evil
7.the head bangers in lbt 1
8.the sharptooth from lbt 6
9.ozzy and strut
10.thud screech and redclaw
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Topsy may be racist but he, I don't think should be classed as a villain. As racism doesn't tend to make one evil unless one does take it totally out of porpotion (ie:genocide).It just makes one uneduacted and misguided. As you said Topsy does become much better in the sequels, perhaps it is through a better understanding?
I fully agree with Saft that Topsy isn’t really a villain. People may all have their opinions, and this one is hers and mine. During no movie or episode can I truly see villainy in Cera’s father. On the other hand, if you ask me, during the eleventh movie, Topsy was the antagonist until the fastbiters arrived. Like DarkHououmon said here though, antagonists do not have to be villains.
Here are my top ten villain spots along with my reasoning for the list:
Number ten: The bullies from III.
Although Hyp was the leader and so told the others what to do, that does not let Nod and Mutt off the hook. They did, after all, agree to do the things they were told when they could have done otherwise. One thing that made these villains more dangerous in a sense than other ones is because they lived with the gang, and therefore the kids were not protected from them. A tornado while in an underground tunnel is not as dangerous as strong winds out in the open. The kids could run from sharpteeth, but theoretically, they could never truly run from the bullies. The kids had reason for fear at all times, even within the walls of their home, so that makes the bullies my least favorite. Also, they kept wanting to hurt the kids for no reason, and especially during their song. If those head butts had hit Petrie, he could have been seriously wounded. Torturing children every waking moment, whether the villains are there doing something or merely inciting fear by the knowledge that they can show up at any time, well- that ain’t cool in my book.
Number nine: The swimmer from IX.
This guy was very dangerous. Even though he had the most limited movement of all compared to other kinds of sharpteeth, being confined to water, he still managed to nearly end the gang on more than one occasion. Why is he so low on my favorite list then? It’s because he put tension between the kids and Mo, causing Mo to look badly when he was really a hero. When he first attacked, Mo saved the kids’ lives. However, the noise he made afterwards sounded like laughter to Cera, and because none of them ever found out he saved them, that scene made Cera think a lot less of him, and when someone does a good deed, an act of kindness, yet is despised afterwards, even through a misunderstanding, that does not sit well with me at all. That event just made it so much harder for Cera to like him at first, as being a true hero, Mo said nothing to avoid basking in his own glory. That swimmer put a greater rift between two friends, and I just can’t find pleasure in that. Sure, the guy didn’t do this on purpose, but plenty of accidents are cause for anger.
Number eight: Tie between Ichy and Dil from IV.
The whole concept of these two was rather, in my opinion, silly. Here we have two fully-grown characters, and adulthood is supposed to symbolize a form of independence. Yet these two were so closely reliant on each other that apparently, they would have both died of starvation if not for the other. Not bad to think about right now, but there are two reasons I am not fond of this. For one thing, even though they both clearly knew how much they needed each other, their bond could be dropped more easily than a man carrying a bar of soap with greasy hands. They KNEW how important they were to each other, so that made how easily they could part ways even more distressing. It would be like a cripple throwing his cane away. Secondly, I have to wonder about their competence, as I highly doubt every single bellydragger is teamed up with a feathered sharptooth. I do not believe that was an everyday occurrence at all. “Oh, look, a bellydragger! I wonder where his flying partner is right now.” Yeah, I don’t think that is normal, so they apparently don’t have a strong grasp on survival and what it means to take care of themselves. Not a very pretty picture of growing up.
Number seven: The green sharptooth from V.
He does not seem to value his own life. It’s like all he cares about is killing whether he falls too or not. On an island that small, as Chomper said, there was not much food, so I don’t blame him for pursuing to the kids to such a degree. I would too if I was starving! So my issue with him was when he casually thought he could defeat two sharpteeth at once. I don’t know if he was blinded by his lust for blood and death, or maybe he was just foolish, but he entered a fight with almost no odds for him. Throughout the movies, we learn that sharpteeth know the basic mechanics of being outnumbered. “Sharpteeth would never attack a herd this size.” “They’re going after the children!” But not this guy. He took on two opponents of the same size actually thinking he would walk away. Yes, yes, I know that he was winning at first, and even if he did win, I would still call him foolish because taking a chance with your life is not smart. I have seen plenty of sharpteeth run away, so he had no excuse. Sure, there were near the edge of a big cliff with water below, but if you take a good look at that scene, he had plenty of room to retreat. Again, it was not really instinct if you ask me, as tons of meat-eaters have turned tail and ran before when the odds were against them. So he can fight, I’ll give him that, but he ranks low for me because it doesn’t seem like he can think as well.
Number six: Sierra from VII.
He does not understand subtlety and is rather heartless. When he would get angry, it would show immediately, so he did not grasp the concept of keeping a low profile. When working for someone you don’t like, the last thing you want to do is constantly show your disdain while doing nothing about the issue in the process. When someone can come up with a decent solution, that short-tempered history will make it harder to pull off. The way he instantly agreed to turning on Pterano upon finding the stone indicates that he never really wanted to do what Pterano wanted in the first place. If he truly had a desire to fulfill his leader’s dream, he would have at least had to think about turning on him at a certain point, but that didn’t happen, so he felt no tie to begin with. Knowing he didn’t care about his leader’s plan, he should have been hiding his emotions until the right time. He had no plans, a lot of anger, and is just overall a character you can’t expect much out of without giving orders or suggestions to. Plus, the fact that he would just casually feed the kids to sharpteeth shows that he is cold and uncaring. As a human child, I see him as the type that whines a lot but can be satisfied instantly with candy and needs someone to hold his hand on the way to the bathroom. He does a lot on his own, yes, but to do things right, he needs guidance.
Number five: Ozzie from II.
This is a very interesting villain because he had no intention of hurting the gang at the start. He actually just tried giving them a warning and was going to leave them alone afterwards. “I’m warning you, you little leaf-lickers, stay out of my way or I’ll-” Notice the words “warning” and “or.” They indicate the harmlessness he intended for the confrontation. Only when his patience was gone did he start thinking of causing any harm. So I really find it interesting that he did not try hurting them at the start, but his attitude slowly grew darker until he did. A maturing villain, if you will. I did not particularly enjoy his selfishness and lack of concern or interest for his own flesh and blood. Even at the end, he was no closer to his sibling at all, and so that is a reason why the ending did not end on too much of a pleasant note. If he would have started to understand and grow closer to his brother a little as the movie drew to a close, I feel that the movie would have a larger appeal.
Number four: Strut from II.
He comes across as an ally to the enemy, not the enemy itself, for the longest time. So it was rather shocking when he thought of throwing Littlefoot to his death. However, simply thinking of the idea is not the most shocking part of it. He seems to have said that, judging by his tone and attempt to see if his brother agreed, only to get his brother to like him more. It was a cry for help, a yearning to get some positive recognition from his brother. Admirably theoretically, but horrifying at face value. He wanted his brother’s love, but he was willing to kill someone to get it! Kind but demented is what Strut is. He could have found eggs for his brother, complimented him, and many more things to get some kindness eventually, but he chose murder to obtain love, and that is just sick, dude.
Number three: The green sharptooth from I.
I think this is the most skilled-at-fighting sharptooth ever to be seen in the LBT franchise, the green one from V being second. I’ve never seen such ferocity, battle prowess, and ability to sustain damage. He was knocked off a huge cliff, battered around by Littlefoot’s mother, and hit by a huge stone (although we can’t be certain if he actually survived that last one or not). He is also the only sharptooth we see with enough strength and skill to jump upon giant opponents like that longenck from I. We see fastbiters do this occasionally, but for a huge monstrosity to make that big of a leap is just jaw dropping. He seems a lot more focused during battle than most other sharpteeth we come across in the series. It’s as if he is planning his moves and not just biting and clawing like so many others. The original sharptooth is a fighter amongst attackers.
Number two: Redclaw from the television series.
He was very interesting because he was the first sharptooth we see to not only have underlings, but to have embraced another kind to be by his side. Racism is prevalent in the LBT. Look at Topsy, what Littlefoot’s mother said (she could have easily mentioned that she disliked species sticking with their own kind or that more dinosaurs should try spending more times with other kinds, but she did not) and the fact that every other time we see sharpteeth together, it is within the same species, so Redclaw really broke a clichÈ here. He gained a fierce reputation, and although how he got it is still a mystery, as he can’t even get a group of kids, he clearly did enough to obtain infamy throughout the land, and that is another thing we never saw until now. Therefore, I’d have to call him the most intriguing sharptooth in my book.
Number one: ???
Time to build a little suspense, aye? Who do I admire more than any other villain in the LBT series and why? Well, read on to find out.
These two characters, yes, another tie, know the mind, and therefore, how to deceive it. If you plan to strike, show no animosity to your target. Let him or her fall into a false sense of security so the blow will strike hard and true. Assassins, for example, get to know their prey. They may buy the guy a few drinks, maybe help him out of a bad situation, and then, when he is least expecting it, the assassin thrusts his knife right through the heart. The art of deception is often the key to victory. If you want something, either don’t show it, or act contrary to your tree feelings. Fighting with the mind can accomplish more than fighting with the body sometimes. Pterano and Rinkus nailed this aspect of life.
Pterano deceived the children about his true goals and played on Littlefoot’s sympathy, saying he was asking only to prove him right to the grownups. It was a bit overplayed, but only one of the gang had enough suspicion to question his words to the grownups. Cera wasn’t trustful either, but she rarely is with new faces, like Mo, so her doubt was actually like it always was. Pterano’s act fooled Petrie enough to get the answer he sought. Anyone devious enough to use his blood relations with someone to fool him or her is clever indeed.
As for Rinkus, he played the fool. He acted so meek and mild and helpless and submissive that Pterano never even came close to thinking something was going on his mind. I’d wager Sierra even let himself fall, didn’t even try to fly up from that cliff collapse, only to make himself seem even more simple-minded to Pterano. If that was his plan, it certainly worked. “Ah, Rinkus, out of the mouths of hatchlings, as they say.” Not only did he plot, be he actually formed a conspiracy against Pterano. He played his hand well to the end, putting his shrewd mind on my number one spot as well.
Now, some people feel that sharpteeth are not villains. I am not saying those people are wrong at all, as it is truly a matter of opinion in certain stories, but I will share my opinion. From a moral perspective, no, I don’t think they’re villains either. They have no choice but to kill to survive. That is their fate, and they can’t escape it. Villains are those who are evil in a sense, so how can a villain be a villain if all he or she does is something he or she has no choice but to do? On the other hand, from a story perspective, I find all the sharpteeth who opposed the kids to be villains. I think the writers, when making these characters, thought to themselves, “Okay, we need a villain for this, villains for that one, and so forth.” I doubt that they thought to themselves, “Okay, we need someone who is doing what he has to do while seeming evil to most people.” When writing a lot of stories, the concept is planned out using the word “villain.” In fact, the wikipedia article of the LBT characters actually lists all of these guys under the sub category “villains.” They were not listed under “not nice dinosaurs” or “big meanies,” but instead “villains.” Furthermore, for those who don’t see sharpteeth as villains but do for Ichy and Dil, don’t forget, they’re sharptooth too. I didn’t even realize this myself until LBTDiclonius told me. They have sharp teeth and eat meat, so they fall under the same category of nearly every other opposing force in the franchise.
So I only see them as villains because I believe that that is what the writers intended. Thinking of real life when meat-eating dinosaurs would feast, I do not see them as villains, because like I said, they are innocent from a moral perspective. It’s just that, when writers intend for something to be seen a certain way, I try to stay in context with the creator. So thinking they’re villains or not is not a black and white issue for anyone to make law if you ask me, but this is my take on the matter. And that concludes my favorite villain list.
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Topsy may be racist but he, I don't think should be classed as a villain. As racism doesn't tend to make one evil unless one does take it totally out of porpotion (ie:genocide).It just makes one uneduacted and misguided. As you said Topsy does become much better in the sequels, perhaps it is through a better understanding?
I fully agree with Saft that Topsy isn’t really a villain. People may all have their opinions, and this one is hers and mine. During no movie or episode can I truly see villainy in Cera’s father. On the other hand, if you ask me, during the eleventh movie, Topsy was the antagonist until the fastbiters arrived. Like DarkHououmon said here though, antagonists do not have to be villains.
it's my opinion too i mean ok he's mean and horrible and a bit racist but he doesn't do anything to physically harm the children and he just has a hateful personnality. he's one of the characters you love to hate.
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To say that The Original Sharptooth wasn't a villain is a big, fat, ugly lie!
Those who have read the book that goes into deeper detail of this character (*Glances at Malte*) probably understands my philosophy on this one. Yes, it is probably true that he was hunting for food in the first place, but after what Littlefoot did to him, (Accidentally getting a thorn in his eye.) this monster was then out for cold-blooded revenge.
As glad as I am that he is as villian, I don't think they made the thorn in his eye part all that obvious. Some viewers, like me, will probably forget about it 5 second after it happens, and not even pick up on the fact that it's a lasting injury (he does open his eye after Littlefoot hurts it, and keeps it closed before.) That, and the fact that it was never---not once---brought up again, means that few people who haven't read the book could possibly figure that out.
Really, it's Sharptooth's own fault his eye got hurt. He knows it Littlefoot mean to do it, but wants revenge anyways. He may be one of the coolest villians of all time, but he certainly is juvenile.
I’d wager Sierra even let himself fall, didn’t even try to fly up from that cliff collapse, only to make himself seem even more simple-minded to Pterano. If that was his plan, it certainly worked.
U mean Rinkus, right?
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1/2. Dil and Ichy. These 2 are the classics for me. Villanous but funny, with a great song. I hope to see them again one day, if they survived.
3. The lioplerudon. Man, that guy was pure villian awesomeness! Part of me feels so bad for saying this, since he nearly killed my favorite LBT character, Mo, but hey, I'm sure there are fans who grieved Littlefoot's mom's death who loved Sharptooth. FlipperBoidSkua, that pic alone is epic awesomeness. The rain and lightning and everything---that was by far the best sequence in the entire LBT film series after Roy Allan Smith left.
4. Sharptooth. Seriously, this guy was awesome. Despite his limited screentime, he still rules as the darkest Sharptooth of the films series! :smile
5. Chomper's parents (in 2, not in 5) I initially really liked this duo...they seemed to be what movie 1's Sharptooth was made up when they first appeared in 1. In 5...not so much. They gave them subtitles, which was stupid and felt like they were trying to make it funny. Then you've got that awkward moment where they see Chomper gathering food...huh? An awkward moment among Sharpteeth? And then you've got them turning good at the end. Sorry, but that's taking it too far. Just looking at this alone shows how much better the series was in the hands of Roy Allan Smith.
6. Ozzy. Awesome villian. Very cool specimen, great song, very fun storyline. Can you believe I actually started to feel sorry for him cause he kept getting within reach of eating an egg but always losing the chance? (Yeah, I know, we're all a little weird sometimes.)
7. Sierra. This guy is freaking awesome. Most everyone justly likes Pterano best of the flyer trio, but Sierra is my favorite. Jim Cummings did the role awesomely. I doubt he and Rinkus died, so it would be cool to see them again.
8. Movie 3's raptors. 3 was such an awesome film, and these Sharpteeth, from what I can remember (I haven't seen this one in forever) were all buisness. Wouldn't mind seeeing them again!
9. The Belly-Dragger in 10. Can you spell, "King of the pond"? I actually feel a little sorry for the poor guy, imagine having to spend the rest of your life under a log like that.
And finally...
He's at the bottom of the list since he's not really a villian, but he's freaking awesome, and his name is...
10. Mr. Threehorn. Gosh, how can we have "Mad Song" on the villian song list and not "Standing Tough"? This guy rocks as an "villian" and when he shows his good side as well. I wish he'd get a decent size role in all films. I was disapointed they pretty much forgot about him in 10, didn't really show him that much of him either in the first 2...and didn't even have him appear in 4.
Well, that's it. My top 10. If I were to write an 11, 12 and 13 they would be Hyp, Nod and Mutt, in that order. But I'm not, so this is how the list stands. Bye bye! :p
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Most everyone justly likes Pterano best of the flyer trio, but Sierra is my favorite
That makes no sense. People like Pterano because of the flyer trio? I don't understand.
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I was saying, he's usually their favorite out of him, Rinkus, and Sierra. There's a poll about it here:
http://gangoffive.net/index.php?showtopic=4911 (http://gangoffive.net/index.php?showtopic=4911)
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Ah I see. I reread your post and noticed I made a mistake. I read "best" as "because" for some reason. Sorry about that.
And yeah he is the most popular out of the three. That's definitely true. I admit I do prefer him over the other two, though I can't explain why.
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As long as it's not cause most everyone else does, that's ok. Don't feel like you have to love a character cause everyone else does---it's not being true to yourself.
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Cera in the first half of LBT 1? Well it's not until the very end that she fully redeems herself, and even till then she's not a "villian"
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My top 10 bad guys are:
10.swiming sharptooth from the 5
He is not evil,but he is cool,and scary becose he is under the water,and you can see him only when it's too late.
9.Sharptooth from the 5
Not evil too,but nice fighting scene,and i like the way he looks.
8pterano
Not evil,but manipulative and can make very fatal decisions.After all a whole herd was slaughtered becose he tought he was doing the right thing.
7 sharptooth in LBT 6
Surviving THAT fall :blink: .not evil,but INDESTRUCTIBLE(well,at last for falls)
6 stru
In the first look he can seem to be innocent,but he is capable of doing ugly things becose of his brother.He could be a nice person withouth him eating only green stuff.But as long as he follows his brother,he is EVIL too.
5 ozzy
He is trying to kill the kids becose of a couple of spoiled lunch.Well,that can't be so hard for somebody,who actualy eats unhatched dino babyes.Definetaly a bad,EVIL guy.
4 rhinkus
Just like Sierra,he don't mind violance,and he is intriguing too,becose he suggested to betray Pterano.Fits with Sierra well,he is EVIL,and he enyoing it.
3.Sierra
This guy just lives for violance.He don't mind even murdering,like he tought that Ducky just died becose of them,and he didn't showed any sign of regret,moreover,he was glad about it.Heartless,cruel,and of course EVIL.
2.pachycephalosauruses in the first movie.
They are herbivores.so chasing,and trying to kill a hatchling cuz it's fun?haha thats sick!They are insane and EVIL for sure!
1 Sharptooth
Kill a kid's mother,and chase him after that for even more revenge?PURE EVIL for me.
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10 Sharptooth(LBT 5) he was pretty cool
9 Pterano, he is pretty manipulative, and doesn't want to accept responsibility for his actions which killed an entire herd.
8 Sharpteeth, LBT 7, these guys were pretty cool, and they were pretty scary, and they were able to kill off an entire herd, even when atleast one Styracosaurus, Stegosaurus, Kentrosaurus, and Ankylosaurus are there.
7 Rinkus, kind of funny, but evil because he threatened to kill Littlefoot.
6 Dil and Ichy
5 Swimming sharptooth(LBT 9), this guy was very scary, I couldn't even watch LBT 3, for years because of him :unsure:
4 Ozzy, this guy was psychotic, threatening to kill kids simply because they saved an egg.
3 Redclaw, I know he isn't scary, but he had to have built up his reputation somehow.
2 Sierra, this guy was a psychopath! Nuff said.
1 Sharptooth (LBT 1), need I say more?
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1.) THE Sharptooth
2.) Sharpteeth LBT 3
3.) Pterano, Rinkus and Sierra
4.) Chomper's parents
5.) Hyp, Mutt and Nod
6.) Redclaw, Screech and Thud
7.) Ozzy and Strut
8.) Dil and Icky
9.) Sharpteeth LBT 13
10.) Swimming Sharptooth LBT 9
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There is only 1 true villain in my opinion, Guido... that evil, evil little rascal.
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1. The Sharptooth
2. Chomper's Parents
3. The Plated Sharptooth
4. Pterano
5. The Hybodus (or Squalicorax) of the fifth film.
6. Ichy and Dill
7. The Raptors from Pterano's flashback
8. The Egg Stealers
9. Mr. Threehorn
10. Logs for crossing chasms
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I know it's been years since I've posted anything here but...
Those who determine sharpteeth as villains(not just antagonists, but call them villains) - I hate you...
Seriously guys, what's wrong with you? Don't you know how nature works? Then that makes domestic cats villains too, cause they eat mice(and those mice could also be characters we could like), would that automaticly make a cat a villain? NO! it only does what it does because it's insticts tell it to, not because of some hidden vicious intentions. I know Sharpteeth from LBT movies are easier to equalize to villains because they seem so scary and attack the main characters. But being truly evil-heck no! that's not what they are about. They are supposed to be antagonists for the movies plots, not evil, cunning and vicious bad guys.
Why do I care about this so much? I'm a big fan of reptiles, you see(the biggest reason why I love LBT so much) but one of the main reasons why they are almost always shown evil in fiction is because real reptiles(most of them) are predators. This automaticly classfies them as bad guys in the writers of fiction minds, and they think it's a good idea to make reptiles bad guys(ESPECIALLY snakes, my favorite animals, who are really peaceful in real life, but suffer stupid and completely unfair stereotypes being marked by humans). That said, I will NEVER change my opinion as I'm completely sure that a real and only villain on Earth is HUMAN. And they weren't around at the times of dinosaurs, as far as I know.
As for Strut - I still wouldn't classify him as much of a villain. His whole life he was pushed around by the only family he had-his evil brother. Sure, he wanted to push the kids from the wall, but I'm pretty sure he just wanted to pay them back for all those terrible scratches, NOT kill them. He was a really nice-hearted and looked innocent, sure he wasn't completely innocent(I wouldn't include him in my list otherwise) but he sure never seemed too bad to me, and DEFINITELY not worse than Rinkus and Sierra. I mean come on, he would probably be one of the niciest LBT guys if he never lived with his brother. All he would do is eat plants and wouldn't bother anyone
As for Topsy, I kinda agree with you there that he couldn't be classified as a villain, but he sure is one of the meaniest LBT characters. the fact that he is misguied(his racism and his opinion about other specoes of dinosaurs) doesn't make him innocent. He, unlike Cera, had a whole life to study other dinosaurs and if not equalize himself to them at least not hate them so much and avoid them like they are retarded and can only be a bad influence on his daughter. Again, he's not a villain but he is much of a bad guy sometimes.
P.S. I'm modifying my original post and removing Cera from my list
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Yeah, perhaps the title of the topic could have been replaced with Antagonists
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you gotta be kidding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVm6ziFL_eg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVm6ziFL_eg)
Predator instincts are now considered as a villainy
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9 Strut (Not really a villian, offensive actions were caused by his brother)
Generally I tend to agree, but remember that Strut was the one of the two who came up with the idea of murdering Littlefoot by throwing him from the Great Wall.
Yeah, well, death by being thrown off the Great Wall would probably be a less painful end than death by taking a bath in lava, which was what Ozzy seemed to be suggesting earlier when he said "Leaving so soon? But you haven't had your baths." Also, let's not forget that Ozzy never said "Ok, Strut, murder is a little far there buddy." but instead grins and says "Yes!".
Also, it may have been Strut that tried to strangle Chomper though. However, Ozzy was the one that was actually gonna off Littlefoot as he was holding him.
However, the reason I still think Ozzy is eviler is how he treated Strut. Heck, Strut may have suggested murder, which seems to be more of Ozzy's thing, to try and gain acceptance from his brother.
Also, Ozzzy was gonna push the kids off the cliff, and looked like he was gonna claw Littlefoot. However, Strut's evil, albiet kinda dorky, laugh is also unnerving.
However, Sierra only misses the top spot because Sharptooth killed Littlefoot's mother. Heck, if Sierra were a Sharptooth, you KNOW he'd kill for fun and not just for food.
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Personally, I think this list is more accurate, and here's why.
1.) Sharptooth (that's a no brainer. He killed Littlefoot's mother and tried to knock off the Gang of Five a few times. He even tried to take Petrie with him in his last moments.)
2.) Plated Sharptooth.(he gets higher than Sierra because he's a Sharptooth. Also, he's bigger than Chomper's parents and also seems to be able to own them individually, if not when they are together, and that alone makes him pretty dangerous. The fact that he snaps at and tears apart a bush that the kids had been in moments before makes him creepy.) He also can leap great distances like the original. Also, he seems quite willing to kill, not minding what he kills. He had the kids cornered against a cliff, where they were trapped between him and the swimming Sharptooth in the water. He seems willing to whack Chomper when Chomper gets in his way. Heck, he still is willing to fight when both Chomper's parents come along, rather than giving up the kids as a bad job (which, ironically enough, had he done that, would have almost certainly spelled the demise of the kids, as it seems Chomper's parents only spared the kids because Littlefoot rescued Chomper. He wouldn't need rescuing then. It would be the end of Littlefoot & co anyway, a very painful end too. The only way out woulda been if Chomper had persuaded his parents not to eat his friends.) Anyway, Plated Sharpteeth is knocked into the water, much like the original, and, like the original, he decides he isn't going down alone, this time taking Chomper instead of Petrie. Chomper is rescued by Littlefoot while Plated Sharptooth presumably drowns, just like the original.
3.) Sierra (This guy would make a good Sharpptoh villain, as it would suit his personality more. Not much says "I'm evil and I like being that way!" like comments like "You should be used to this sort of thing by now?" and "Once we take over, I'm feeding those overgrown eggs to the Sharpteeth!" And, let's not forget, he tried to do in Ducky many times, and wanted the kids dead and even tried to kill Pterano. He wanted to enslave the Great Valley, rather than make it better, which was what Pterano was after. Also, he has this sort of "I hate the world!" attitude that makes it quite clear, he doesn't care who dies as long as he's happy. Also, he might still be alive, unlike the two dudes above. Also, his appearance even LOOKS evil. )
4.) Rinkus (This guy is less evil than Sierra. However, he is pretty nasty, also wanting to kill Pterano and also wanting to leave Ducky on the mountain. He also wants to enslave the Great Valley. He also appears to be loyal to Pterano, while plotting with Sierra to kill Pterano. Also, he could also still be alive too.)
5.) Red Claw (Yes, he may not seem that dangerous, but if Sharpteeth and Leaf Eaters alike are scared of him, you an bet there's GOT to be something really bad about him. Perhaps he has a Sharptooth army we don't know about yet.)
5.) Ozzy (He doesn't mind murder over a bunch of stupid eggs. I mean, come on dude, you coulda had a nice omelet snack while the grownups were busy dealing with Chomper's parents and going to close the Great Wall, but no, you had to go and try and whack Littlefoot instead! Also, your treatment of your own brother is awful! He just wanted to be a leaf eater! You try to chase the kids (who appeared to think Chomper had eaten Littlefoot and were downcast too, come on, can't you at least let them mourn their friend buddy?!, and then try and either claw or strangle Littlefoot too. Later, you want to give the kids baths in lava. Also, you try and get the kids again. And, when the fire is coming, you order your brother to give way to you, yelling "I'm first! I'm first! I'm always first!" to show what a selfish bastard you are! You realize Strut coulda died man! Later, you try and get Littlefoot and were gonna be the one who offs him. Definitely evil!)
6.) Ichy (He can fly and he's a Sharptotoh. That's two lethal combinations. Yes, he's a bumbler, which is why he loses out to Rinkus and Sierra and Ozzy. However, he does have good vision and does most of the directing of Dil, who cannot find the kids on her own (she didn't even know she had Ducky on her nose for goodness sakes!!!!!) His size seems to be what's holding him back. He almost seems to be an "evil Guido". Also, he is the one that points Dil to Littlefoot, grabs Petrie and may have gotten him, if Dil hadn't argued with him, and woulda gotten Ducky, had Petrie not interfered, sending Ducky to Dil instead. Also, he has a greater chance of survival than Dil as nothing chased him at the end. Also, he is the only Sharpooth flyer type shown (other than the one that tried to eat Ducky in V.) whereas Belly Draggers appear both in IV (though that may have been Dil too) and in X and in the TV series too.) )
7.) Dil (Her Myopia makes her less dangerous, despite her bigger size. However, he attempts to whack Littlefoot, Cera, Ali, and Ducky, not to mention her attack on Ichy, make her pretty bad.)
8.) Strut (He seems to be the victim of his brother and so seems odd to be on this list. However, his kooky, yet evil, laugh near the middle gives away that he is really bad. Further, he doesn't seem to question his brother's murderous plots to kill the kids at all. Indeed, he is Ozzy's sidekick in them. Also, he helps tackle Littlefoot and was the one who suggested murdering him by throwing him of the Great Wall. He also I think was the one that grabbed Chomper and looked like he was going to strangle him. He is only rated lower as he seems a few tree stars short of a branch in some ways and doesn't eat eggs, or doesn't like too and appears to be a coward and let himself be pushed around by his brother.)
9.) Topps (He is good, overall. However, he is really bigoted, goes crazy during the water shortage (though some of his behavior can be, according to Toops, what his father, who may still be alive by the way according to Topps. Also, the fact that Topps uses the words "may be what I am today" hints that he may not have talked to his father in some time. Anyway, Topps almost gets Cera killed when, thinking he knows more than everyone else, he goes trying to dodge the wildfire, and he and his daughter are nearly roasted. Also, it was his brilliant idea to separate the herds in the fifth movie. Also, he isn't very nice to Tippy's herd and constantly whines how Littlefoot and the others, specifically Littlefoot, is a bad influence on his daughter. Still, he's got balls and fights off Chomper's father, Red Claw, and loads of Belly Draggers. He's fearless, albeit hardheaded.)
10.) Hyp (He gets on this list for how he treated Littlefoot and Co, wanting to bully them. he can be forgiven, one thinks, perhaps, as he was treated the same way by his father. However, Hyp gets Littlefoot in hot water, or splashed water, with Topps, which is the reason Cera has to meet Littlefoot in secret for the film as Topps won't let her see him because of that. Also, he was gonna hoard that watering hole, despite how thirsty everyone was. That's pretty selfish man! Also, he was gonan go off and get water for himself in the Mysteirous Beyond, as he knew where it was, not even bothering to tell the grownups, who could have helped him. Also, one would have thought that he had reformed after III, but, given that Littlefoot didn't want to meet him in the TV series, I'd say he still has a few flaws. Also, he was gonna smash the Fast Biter eggs, which seems cold. However, he seems, hopefullly, to have finally become nice.)
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Also, are Shorty and Rhett allowed to be on this list?
Shorty was really rude to Littlefoot and Rhett was stuck up and a nasty liar. Shorty still seems agressive even in the TV series.
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PLEASE SOMEONE RENAME THIS TOPIC from "top 10 LBT villains" to " Top 10 LBT antagonists"