PlayStation 3 or Nintendo Wii?

action9000 · **Reply #20 on:** November 19, 2006, 07:17:37 PM

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Dark: You're over-looking the fact that most people already have appliances that do everything that the PS3 is said to do. People aren't going to fork over $600 when they already have all those capiblities in their homes.

The big Plus for movie enthusiasts is that the PS3 will play Blu-Ray movies.

At this moment, a PS3 is actually cheaper ($650) than a Blu-Ray player ($999). This is one piece of credit I will give Sony, for providing somewhat more affordable access to breakthrough technology.

The counter argument is, of course, that prices for Blu-Ray players will drop to reasonable levels in a short time, leaving the PS3 overpriced once again, unless Sony follows the market trend of the Blu-Ray player.

In theory, the PS3 should cost More than your average Blu-Ray player because the PS3 is a Blu-Ray player And More. At this point, the PS3 is actually in a very good place in the Blu-Ray market, as it is breaking that economical rule, even if only for a short time. I don't think this will last, as Blu-Ray players are now forced to drop in price and increase in quality.

Overall, it seems that Sony will need to very Very careful with how it controls the price of its PS3 units as time passes.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #21 on:** November 19, 2006, 07:44:17 PM

I wasn't overlooking anything. I know there are appliances like that. But it's more convenient to make the game console do other things besides just playing games, in my opinion.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #22 on:** November 19, 2006, 09:58:27 PM

No, its not more conveniant. Not at all. In fact, it will be less conveniant if it breaks down, because there's that much more to lose on it if it breaks down. You'll risk losing not only game files, you can lose computer files, DVD files, and whatever else files, and you'll be forced to go back to all the *ahem* less conveniant separate appliances, one way or the other. That right there is why I'm never going to bother with one. That's a mess I'm not willing to deal with.

Don't even bother using the 'it has tons of memory space' argument. Once you start filling it up with everything it will allow you to save on it, that space will start to look a lot smaller before you know it.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2006, 10:45:09 PM

WR, I wasn't trying to start an argument. All I was doing was stating my opinion. I believe that consoles with extra features are convenient, in their own way. But I am not saying they aren't, nor am I completely disagreeing with your opinion. I can see why you see the extra features as inconvenient.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #24 on:** November 20, 2006, 02:15:09 AM

Hey, I just tell it as it is. Conjoining things...bad idea. Do that, and when one thing breaks, several things break down all at once.

Dash The Longneck · **Reply #25 on:** November 20, 2006, 04:42:04 PM

I gotta go with Playstation 3 for this one if I had 600 dollars too spend on that right now I would.

Threehorn · **Reply #26 on:** November 20, 2006, 04:50:56 PM

I found out something interesting on a news page. each of these PS3 consoles they sell they lose $200 to $300 per console. sounds like it cost a heavy amount of money to make them and selling them under the building cost.

talk about burning a hole in sony's pockets.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #27 on:** November 20, 2006, 09:44:52 PM

I don't believe it's entirely a bad thing. But I can see how it's not entirely a good thing either.

They lose $200 for each console sold? Hmm. Didn't know that.

action9000 · **Reply #28 on:** November 20, 2006, 10:02:07 PM

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But it's more convenient to make the game console do other things besides just playing games, in my opinion.

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In fact, it will be less conveniant if it breaks down, because there's that much more to lose on it if it breaks down.

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I believe that consoles with extra features are convenient, in their own way. But I am not saying they aren't, nor am I completely disagreeing with your opinion

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Conjoining things...bad idea. Do that, and when one thing breaks, several things break down all at once.

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I don't believe it's entirely a bad thing. But I can see how it's not entirely a good thing either.

You guys havin' fun going around and around in circles, Darkhououmon and Weirdraptor?

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I agree with both of you based on my experience. I bought a PS2 when it First came out (the 2nd day, actually). I was in love with the DVD player feature of it, since the PS2 was my first DVD player. However, as it was a 1st-generation PS2, it had its share of problems. Now, its DVD features are a bit unstable and it sometimes has trouble reading games or music CDs.
For many years, I really liked the multiple features in one, but when my PS2 decided to be less cooperative, it was a bit of a pain to not have a reliable DVD player. As a result, we just went out and bought a real DVD player, which was reasonably-priced by that time. In the end, both sides worked out very well. B)

DarkHououmon · **Reply #29 on:** November 20, 2006, 10:13:00 PM

First Generation PS2, eh? Yeah I recall, back when PS2 was newly released, hearing how they break down easily or something.

Threehorn · **Reply #30 on:** November 21, 2006, 05:10:32 AM

It was in the news when that happened. they was on purposly faulty, after a time the reading laser would break down. someone high up in Sony for PS 2 had the reading laser faultly. I wish I was kidding but it was on BBC news and on news papers tones of people in the UK was very very annoyed with Sony, the first damaging blow to them.

Nick22 · **Reply #31 on:** November 21, 2006, 06:05:49 PM

Being a Nintendo fanatic,, I favor the Wii..

DarkHououmon · **Reply #32 on:** November 21, 2006, 07:10:51 PM

Oh I see...

I just talked to my brother and he said that if the Blue-Ray doesn't catch on, Sony is in big trouble.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #33 on:** November 21, 2006, 07:38:51 PM

Well, I do think its an altogether bad thing. There is a reason some things are constructed separately, and I'm a devout believer in conveniance. Its not conveniant to lose one thing, and lose everything else along with it. I will maintain that stance fanatically.

Cyberlizard · **Reply #34 on:** November 21, 2006, 07:40:17 PM

WR, we got the point already.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #35 on:** November 21, 2006, 07:43:46 PM

She keeps restating her side, I get to restate my side.

action9000 · **Reply #36 on:** November 21, 2006, 08:10:06 PM

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She keeps restating her side, I get to restate my side.

Darkhououmon appears to have agreed with your opinions, and stated that there are true points about what you believe, as well as what she believes. I don't think you and her need to continue this "Combining things together" conversation any further, WR. As Cyberlizard put it (maybe a little unkindly), we get the point.

: Thanks. B)

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I just talked to my brother and he said that if the Blue-Ray doesn't catch on, Sony is in big trouble.

This is probably true for the most part. Since Blu-ray games are not directly related to Blu-ray movies, however, I'll bet that the PS3 will still have a large draw of gamers who want the PS3 experience, whether or not Blu-ray movies win the format war.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #37 on:** November 21, 2006, 08:18:54 PM

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This is probably true for the most part. Since Blu-ray games are not directly related to Blu-ray movies, however, I'll bet that the PS3 will still have a large draw of gamers who want the PS3 experience, whether or not Blu-ray movies win the format war.

Yeah I do agree with that.

Littlefoot1616 · **Reply #38 on:** November 21, 2006, 09:15:59 PM

Having recently been working in the retail of electronic goods, I can say that Sony are probably gonna shoot themselves in the foot yet AGAIN with their specialist media formats. Blu-Ray discs are gonna be great for capacity but they are gonna be a hell offa lot more expensive than their more generic rival format HD DVDs (I'm on about movies moreso than the games). I reckon HD DVDs are gonna be much more successful because more electronic companies will have their HD DVD players configed to play HD DVDs rather than Blu-Ray discs.

Sony seem to always do this with new technology. Look at music casette tapes (if anyone can remember that far back LOL

). Sony brought out the Mini Disc to combat tape casettes for music formats. It was a greater piece of technology but it flopped. Hardly anyone bought them coz they we more focused on the switch from tape to CD rather than to Mini Disc. Again, VHS tapes and Beta Max. Again, Sony made something that was technologically superior but still, no one was interested and VHS tapes excelled. Want more recent? PSP UMDs. More and more movie companies are pulling out of putting their films on UMDs because they are just far to unprofitable.

Sadly, Sony seem to invest tons of money into creating these unique formats for music, video and games but most of the time, because they tend to make them very specific to their own products. Some other electronic companies do take on Sony's mediums but they don't tend to last very long. There may be a quick boom in sales but it quickly dies out again. I reckon, in the next format fight of Blu-Ray Vs. HD DVDs...given what I've already said, I know where my bets will be placed

action9000 · **Reply #39 on:** November 21, 2006, 09:34:44 PM

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I reckon, in the next format fight of Blu-Ray Vs. HD DVDs...given what I've already said, I know where my bets will be placed

As much as I'd like to see Blu-Ray win the format war, as I have seen the specs for both and prefer the Blu-Ray format, the odds are not exactly in its favour. It is too early to declare a winner but I do see your point, Littlefoot! It seems the 'superior' format often gets the short end of the stick.

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