The Gang of Five
Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => The Party Room => Brain Food => Topic started by: Malte279 on November 17, 2004, 04:24:28 PM
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Hi!
This game is following the same rules as the "Whom am I" game, just with places instead of people. The one whose turn it is gives hints and the others try to guess the place.
Okay, here we go:
This town is married to the sea which threatens to swallow it.
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Hmm...Venice, Italy?
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Perfectly right Kenji! :)
You may come up with the next one.
By the way, if I'm not mistaken it is also your turn in the LBT quote game, unless you want somebody else to post the next LBT quote there for the others to guess.
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Ok. I'll try this one:
This place was known to be the home of the gods.
It might be a broad subject at first, but I'm sure you'll get it at first few guess (if not the first).
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Mount Olymp (hope that is the correct English name) in Greece? It is the first earthly place that comes to my mind as a home of gods.
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It is in fact Mount Olympus, Greece. Good job, Malte! Your turn!
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wow that was fast.
-Threehorn
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Heh, one that I knew and I came too late. :p
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Okay, here we go:
A town wich used to have a very wonderful lighthouse. Named after the conqueror who gave more than a dozen of towns he founded the own name. It used to be a good town for people who wanted to read.
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Ooh! Alexandria, Egypt! I wrote about the lighthouse when I did a research paper on the 7 Wonders of the Ancient World.
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Absolutely right!
The other hinds were refering to Alexandria's library and the fact that it was one out of many Alexandrias founded by Alexander the Great (there is soon going to be a movie about him with Bret Pitt as Alexander. Apparently the producers liked him as Achillieus in Troy).
Your turn. :)
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I remember that. I also remember that when Alexander conquered Israel, the Hebrews wouldn't make a statue of him in the temple because it was against their faith, but instead they made the name Alexander an official Hebrew name.
Anyway, here's the next place...
As there are 7 wonders of the ancient world, there are 7 wonders in every other place. This place is one of Ancient Egypt's 7 wonders, and it is the only natural wonder.
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The most basic natural wonder in Egypt that comes to my mind is the river Nile. The longest river in the world which made life possible there in the first place. Is that the place you are looking for?
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I would've said the great pyramids but they're not natural. ;) If it's natural (not man-made) I'd go with Malte and say the Nile.
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Sorry guys. The Nile didn't quite make one of Egypt's wonder, even though it is a wonder of it's own. Think Biblical (I'm really sorry if this is mispelled).
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Think biblical...
Mount Sinai perhaps where according to the old testament Moses received the ten commandments?
Or the red sea which, according to the bible, partet to let Moses and his people pass while it drowned the Pharao's army?
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You got it! Mount Sinai made number 4 of Egypt's 7 Wonders, and is the only natural wonder in Egypt. Your turn!
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Wonders according to which count? What is considered a wonder and what is not?
They say that if the ravens leave this place the kingdom in which it is located shall fall. In the center part of this place you will find four of the things this place is named after, but in the places name, it is just the singular. Most precious possessions rest there, to be looked at, but not to be taken. Several gates lead to the place, but in older days you wouldn't have asked to enter through one in particular, for that would have meant your death.
(I hope it sounds not to confusing and mysterious. You all know this place I'm sure).
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What? :blink:
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Don't you panic. It is really not as difficult as it sounds. Just pick out the parts you can easily understand, ignore the confusing additional hints, and this should be easy to guess. I think if I had just left out two or three of the sentences you would have easily guessed it already.
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My guess is the United Kingdom. It's just a guess.
Nick
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^ Not a bad guess there, Nick. ;) Four kingdoms: Wales, Scotland, England, Ireland
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You are aiming in the right direction. The place my riddle talk is about is located in the United Kingdom, and I'm quite sure that I'm not the only one here who has been to this place already. Read the other lines knowing about the place being located in UK and you may easily guess it.
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Hmm...maybe Wayne or Brian would know this. ;)
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My guess is the Big Ben Clock in London.
Nick
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Could it be the Tower of London?
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The tower of London is correct!
They say that if the ravens leave the tower it will be the end of the British empire, the precious possessions that rest there are the crown jewels, the center part of "the" tower (I don't know the English word for the central part of a castle and would appreciate if somebody could tell me) has four towers, and the gate through which you don't want to enter the tower is "traitors gate" which was the entrance for high ranking people who were going to be executed in the tower.
Good going Kenji! Your turn. :)
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This place is sometimes called "the graveyard of ships" (I may have made that up :blink: ), for it claims more ships than even the infamous Bermuda Triangle.
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Reading Graveyard of ships the Bermuda triangle was my first thought, but of course it was rendered useless by the next sentence. There are two places that come to my mind neither of which I suppose to be the place you mean. Anyway, the first one would be the Magalain Strait, the narrow sea passage at the tip of South America (don't recall the name of the island there right now).
The other one would be the Savo Gulf, a large bay of the island Guadalcanal were many American and Japanese ships were sunk during WWII.
If both is wrong, could you give another hint?
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Those places did have a lot of sunken ships, but still isn't enough compared to this place. This place is in fact not a single part of any of the four oceans (Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, & Artic).
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The Graveyard of ships is Cape Hatteras, North Carolina.
Nick
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^ Would not that be at the Atlantic? To be honest I've never heard of it. Gibraltar perhaps (the gap between Atlantic and Mediterranian sea)? But I never heard it being called ships grave yard. Neither did I hear it about two other possible places: Messina (the gap between Italy and Sicily) and the harbor entrance of Venice (the tides caused quite a few accidents there in the medieval ages). I do not think that either of these guesses is correct, but with all the main oceans ruled out, the place is likely to be either in the Mediterranian, the Baltic, or the North sea (there are also several alternatives like the Chinese, or Japanese sea, but they are sort of parts of the Pacific). One question, are we talking of ships sinking because of the forces of nature or of ships being sunk by other ships in battle?
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It was mostly caused by forces of nature. And most of the ships that were sunk were fishing ships and transport ships moving between two countries. The only way these ships can go anywhere else are through rivers and canals.
I don't know if my hints are throwing ppl off balance :blink: . If anyone is having problems with these hints, please let me know.
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Cape Hatteras is known as the Graveyard of Ships, It;s located at the tip of North Carolia, in a region called the Outer Banks.
Nick
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Sea routes that can be evaded by canals or rivers. One we haven't had yet I could think of would be the cape of good hope, but it has to be wrong as it is between Atlantic and Indian Ocean. Moreover I don't know of it being particularly dangerous. I'm afraid I simply don't know it.
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The Magellan Straits are located between Tierra Del Fuego and mainland South America. Could that be it?
Nick
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I named that one already and it would also be between Atlantic and Pacific. There are not many regions left with all the great oceans being excluded.
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How about the Jutland canal? It cuts across Denmark.
Nick
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It would be one of the few places left that could be evaded by a channel. With the battle of Jutland 1916 taking place there, there are even a couple of sunken ships there, but I don't know about many ships being sunk there by nature (I may be just ignorant though). Actually it sounds like a good possibility.
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I'll see if this next hint could help:
There was a 60s or 70s song called "Ballad of the Edmund Fitzgerald", which was about a ship that sunk here.
And one givaway hint: This graveyard of ships is more than one body of water.
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The Great Lakes? Lake Superior?
Make no mistake, I had no idea of this and got my answer from Google when I entered Edmund Fitzgerald. I was not aware of the Great Lakes as a place of many shiplosses. According to one webpage 500 ships are reported lost on the Great lakes with the Edmund Fitzgerald being the last major loss (1975). I admit I would have never guessed that one.
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The song was called " The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald", It came out in 1975 and it was sung by Gordon Lightfoot, a Canadian singer.
Nick
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You got the right place, Nick! Whew! I was getting nervous for the moment with all of my bad hints and constant loss of memory, but I'm glad THAT's over! Your turn!
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This is a place that grows taller every year, in fact it is already the tallest place on Earth.
Nick
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Mount Everest? It does grow due to the plate of the Indian subcontinent pushing against the Asian plate. And it is the tallest place in the world (even though there is a higher mountain whose base is below sealevel however, so it's tip is not as high up as Mount Everest's.
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No, it's not Everest. Try again Malte.
Nick
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The tallest PLACE on Earth?! Hmm...somewhere in Tibet maybe? Up in the mountains?
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Are you talking of a mountain or a settlement when you say "place" Nick?
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I'm talking about a mountain, Malte.
Nick
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Well, one could define the mountain Chimborazo in Equador as the highest in the world, but only if you measure from the core of the earth rather than from the sealevel. Due to higher centrifugal power from the rotation of the earth this mountain would be the highest in the world if measured that way, and it's still growing because of the shifting of continents. Nevertheless I prefer measuring mountains from the sea level. Following that measure I never heard of a mountain higher than the Everest on our planet.
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Is it in the Himalayas?
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No It is not in the Himalayas, Arven.
Nick
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And the Chimborazo is wrong too?
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Yes. I'll give you a hint. It's on a "hot spot', a area of the Earth that covers an upswelling of magna.
Nick
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Once I read about some volcano in the Pacific which would be higher than the Mount Everest if (and only if) measured from the sea floor rather than from the sea level. I do not recal the name of the mountain. However, if above sea level it is not as high as mount everest, it can hardly be called the tallest place on earth. The growing of an active volcano however would be much faster a process than the growing of a "normal" mountain.
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that is the mountain I'm speaking off. Now I need the name of the mountain.
Nick
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Mauna Kea somewhere around Hawai, isn't it? But with its top being lower than Mount Everests top it is not the tallest place in the world.
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Mauna Kea is the world's tallest mountain from its base. It covers 33 496 feet, 13796 of which are above ground. It is in Hawaii, on the island of Hawaii. Good job Malte, its your turn.
Nick
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This town has gone through many renamings. First it was named after a ruler who made the country where this place is located powerful. It was the country's capital under this first name. Then it turned out that the name sounded too much like it was from the language of a nation this country was at war with, so the town was renamed. Few years later it was renamed again to bear the name of somebody who determined the fate of this country for a long time to come and who was more appreciated now than the long past ruler after whom the town was named in the first place. Also this town was no longer the country's capital. It saw horrible suffering but did not fall.
Nowadays it has it's original name again. Which town am I talking about?
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St Petersburg Russia.
Nick
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Gee, this one held hardly a minute. Your turn Nick.
St. Peterburg was its original name (named after Zar Peter the Great). During WW1 the name was considered too German, so it was renamed in Petrograd. After the Revolution Moskau became the capital and the town was named Leningrad. Leningrads people suffered terribly when the town was besieged in WW2, but the town withstood the siege. After the collapse of the Soviet Union it was renamed into St. Petersburg.
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Let's see- This place was originally built on a lake. It rose to be a great power, then was crushed by a greater power. Over the ages, it has become a symbol to different people, but with different meanings.
Nick
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Technochtitlan? The capital of the Aztec empire, built on an island of lake Texcoco. Destroyed by Cortez conquistadores. Today it is the location of Mexico City.
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You got it Malte :) That one took less than a minute also.
Your turn Malte.
Nick
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Hi!
Hi Nick! We solved each others' last two riddles very quickly which is sort of sad, as neither of us gave anyone else a chance to think about it. I suppose that you may guess the next riddle easier than many others, because you are more interested in the topic than others. However, I suggest that you give others at least 24 hours of time, to guess on this. If you would like to know if your guess about this place is right, please send me a mail :)
This place according to the legends was the forge of the gods. So associated was the smith god to this place, that places of the same nature all over the world were generally named after him. This place destroyed other places nearby which today is a case of luck to the archeologists.
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So far no one has answered your question Malte. I'll wait a little longer before answering.
Nick
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This place sounds more like a volcano. Right now I'm thinking Mount. Vesuveus (bad spelling), but there is more than one volcano in that part of the world, so I can't be sure.
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I believe that is the answer Kenji. Vulcan was the smith of the gods, and his name is given to volcanoes everywhere.
Nick
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The answer is perfectly right!
I was talking of the volcano (volcanos in general are named after the Roman smith god Vulcan) Vesuvius where Vulcan was said to have his forge. The Vesuvius destroyed the Roman towns Pompeii and Herculaneum in 79 A.D. which (cynical as it sounds) was a case of luck for archeologists as the remnants of these towns were not so much destroyed but rather conservated by the ashes and the lava of the volcano.
Good going Nick and Kenji. Your turn Kenji. :)
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ack! :blink: I thought I was close, but not on the mark! Ok, I'll try a more simple place...
The battle taken at this place was rumored to be won by this object. It was proven true along with other important factors.
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Legnano? - Members of an alliance of northern Italian towns who fought and won a battle against king Barbarossa there in 1176 got an important boost of morale from the defence of their "flag carriage", sort of a symbol for their alliance.
I should be most surprised though if this is the correct answer. There are quite a few battles in which objects such as flags, music instruments, or special weapons had a tremendous impact. Could you give some hint on the nature of the object? Was it a weapon or rather something symbolic?
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Perhaps it was a cross? The cross has won many battles in history.
Nick
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It was no cross, or anything described below. No one actually thought this object would do much of anything, but it managed to not only win the battle, it also turned the tide of the war.
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How about blowing a horn?
Nick
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Nope. The object is something you can't carry, except in pieces when you are ready to build it. And this object was built so strong, it decided the fate of the battle, and the war.
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I recall that Cortez conquistadores built ships at the coast and carried them in pieces into the Aztec empire. There they put the ships together to use them on lake Texcoco during the siege of Tenochtitlan. Even though it is not certain whether the whole siege would have taken another turn without the ships, their effect was tremendous. Not only did they cut the only supply line to the city, but also the leader of the Aztec's resistance, Quotemoc was captured by such a ship when he tried to escape in a smaller boat.
But I don't really think that this is what you are talking about, is it?
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A church or an abbey, perhaps?
Nick
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I have another idea, but again I suppose it's wrong. During the D-Day invasion in 1944, the allieds brought the so called Mulberry harbours along. They brought the components along which were necessary to create save anchor places for ships that brought supplies. It sure had a very important effect on the proceedings of the invasion, but still I do not think this is what you are talking about Kenji. Could you give us some hint?
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Neither one is correct. This object is smaller than a church or an abbey. But the battle took place somewhere between the fall of the Aztec Empire and WW2. As a matter of fact, this object that won the battle still exists today, and still in the very spot where this critical battle took place.
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Could it be a nuclear weapon? It doesn't work until all the chemicals are brought together, and the radiation fallout is very much still over Hiroshima or Nagasaki today....
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It's not even a weapon. Perhaps this hint will help. A historic figure wrote a paper about this place and battle, and even named the title after it.
This may have been put in the American History game instead :lol: ;)
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A famous American battle about a fmous people wrote a paper. The first thing I'm thinking of would be Gettysburg and Abraham Lincoln's famous address. I don't see the item though that was no weapon, is still there and still had such an important impact. So I'm afraid I'm wrong again.
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Wrong? I think you have it there...that makes plenty of sense. :)
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But what on earth would that item be that had a decisive effect on the battle, was not a weapon, could be carried in pieces only, but was smaller than a church or an abey. I've read really quite a bit about the battle of Gettysburg, but if indeed the answer was right, my mind is blocked about that item right now.
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The Hill, that Pickett charged up was crucial, It was large enough so that the Union forces at the top could mow down the Confederate troops that were charging.
Nick
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But I think we are talking of some man made item aren't we? If we are talking of hills and woods and rivers that had a tremendous impact on the outcome of a battle on American soil, I think I could list houndreds. And even if we are talking of locations, which hill are we to choose on the battlefield of Gettysburg?
Little Round Top (would be my first choice), Cemetary Rige (that's where Pickett's charge went), Cemetary Hill (fierce fighting in the evening of the second day), Culps Hill (fierce fighting on the second and skirmishes on the third day), Oak Hill (a considerable part of Rode's confederate division was slaughtered there on the first day), Bloecher's knoll (that's where the 11th federal corps was outflanked the first day).
If we are talking about parts of the landscape the list is really, really long.
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Good point Malte. So the object must be manmade?
Nick
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I guess so, but please correct me if I'm mistaken Kenji. It must also be somewhat durable if it exists still today as was mentioned. There were several buildings around Gettysburg and quite a few of them saw some fighting. But I never heard of any of those given decisive importance, especially not if the building was smaller than a church or an abbey (for this would rule out the Lutheran Seminary that served as a union outlook during the first day, though it is not to be credited for having a tremendous effect on the outcome of the battle).
During one battle of the American Revolution, the battle of Monmouth a house (don't recall the name of it) had a decisive effect as the Americans were so slowed down and occupied with the costly attacking on this house where some redcoats had taken cover, that it spoiled the actual attack and made the battle a draw at best (it may also be considered a small British victory). But I don't know of any famous paper written on this, so it sure isn't the answer either.
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Since we're naming only the place, Gettysburg is the right one. The object that was believed to help win the war was a fence along the sides of a road that cut right through the battle field. The fence was built so good that it became a big obstacle to try to either climb over or knock down. There were other key factors to how the Union won the battle, but they escape me at the moment. :blink:
Congrats Malte! Your turn. And I think I'll take a break from this for a while. :blink:
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Good job Malte. :D
Nick
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Okay. Staying very much in the topic, name me the place that has seen the blodiest day in American history. When I say "the" place I'm actually refering to two places, one town and a creek. Please name both.
Special laurels for those who can name some of the keypoint locations of the battle (there are three the battle was mainly focused on).
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I guess its all from the perspective of the person examining battles.... I would have said the Battle of Shiloh was the worst. :unsure:
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I don't think that one can weigh the horrors of battles against each other.
When I wrote the "bloodiest day", I was talking of the number of people being killed and wounded that day.
To give you an idea of the horror, On this single day twice as many Americans were killed as in the war of 1812-14, the war against Mexico 1846-48 and the Spanish American war of 1896 combined!
It was not the battle of Shiloh though.
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I think that's a battle in either WWII or the Vietnam War....I've got my wars all jumbled up. :p
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Nope, it was no battle of either of these wars. Stick to the Civil War (the bloodiest in US history. The number of people killed and wounded during the three days at Gettysburg is I think slightly more than the number of all American victims to the war in Vietnam). As for the battle I'm talking about, losses were about four times as high as they were on D-Day.
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The Wilderness Campaign? Over 3 months Grant lost 100000 men.
Nick
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No the Wilderness Campaign of 1864 included several battles (Wilderness, Spotsylvania, Cold Harbour, Yellow Tavern...) and losses were horrible. However, the bloodiest day in American history was in an earlier year.
More than 26000 people were killed or wounded on one single day.
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Malte that would be the Battle of Shiloh. More than 25000 troops died in that battle.
Nick
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About 24000 soldiers were killed, wounded or missed in the battle of Shiloh which took place on April 6/7.1862. Yet more than 26000 were killed or wounded on a single day in the battle I'm talking of. Neither of the two days of the battle of Shiloh, horrible as they were, was the one on which more Americans were killed than on any other day in history.
Look a bit later in the time line. Look a bit further to the east and remember that there is a town and a creek after which the battle is named (in the north it was named after the creek, in the south after the town). This battle by the way had also a direct and tremendous political impact.
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The Battle of chatanogga?
Nick
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Nope. That one was in fact a battle were losses were comparatively low (sorry, this sounds cynical) considering the dimensions of the battle. 12491 people were lost on both sides thousands of whom were southern prisoners. Moreover the battle stretched over three days (November 23rd to 25th. 1863), while the battle I'm talking of was fought on a single day.
As I said, look forther to the east. The battle took place earlier than the battle of Chatanooga.
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Savannah Georgia?
Nick
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No. Savannah was taken late in 1864. There was no large resistance against Sherman's federal army anymore. No real battle and certainly not the bloodiest day in US history.
The battle I'm talking about took place in 1862.
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I'll look up the Civil War in a book.
Nick
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It's certainly easy to find at google if you enter keywords such as "bloodiest day American history battle" or the like.
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I'm actually surprised we didn't name it already. :unsure:
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I'm sure that it must be mentioned in history lessons. The issuing of the Proclamation of Emancipation was a direct consequence of this battle. Even though the proclamation had been prepared before Lincoln had to wait for a victory so it wouldn't look like a desperate attempt to gain support in defeat. Even though this horrible battle was more like a tactical draw it made General Lee turn back after invading Maryland, which was good enough for the proclamation to be issued. The battle I'm talking of (the bloodiest day in US history) was on September 17th 1862. Please give me just the two names of the battle (in the north it was named after a creek, in the South after a town) and the next question will be yours.
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Don't be too surprised Malte, when I say, it's very likely it's never taught. ;) It's so shallow over here it's unbelievable. Only the most major things are ever talked about for standardized testing....if it's not a large, important battle, we probably never learned about it in depth unless you take a separate Civil War course.
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Well, at least I recall reading about it in a history class book that was used in the school I attended during my exchange. It was a book used for the 7th to 9th grade if I'm not mistaken.
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Antietam Maryland, the furthest push into the North by the South until Gettysburg.
Nick
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Yes. Antietam was the creek after which the Federals named the battle. The Southerners named it after the nearby town Sharpsburg. Your turn Nick.
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Keeping with the Civil War, This date marked the fall of an important Southern city.
Nick
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Is it possible that (not giving the answer away yet so others can guess to) the date you are talking of is very important in American history, not only because of the fall of this southern city (which if I'm correct is located at the Mississippi)?
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Yes, that's the date I'm thinking of.
Nick
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I don't know the date, but I know I have the city - Atlanta, because it destroyed the transportation network between the Southern capital, and the New South (Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas). Everything went downhill for the south after that.
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It sure was a city capture that hit the south very hard (it was on September 1st 1864) and the immediate political result (it probably caused the reelection of Abraham Lincoln) was maybe even more important than the economical and strategic loss for the south.
Still this is not the city Nick is thinking of. He thinks of a town located at the Mississippi, and that other town really surrendered on the day that (in general) is probably the most important in US history.
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Oh, he wants Vicksburg then....it opened up the Mississippi River to the north when they took control of it. :)
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That's what I'm quite sure he is aiming at. Vicksburg was taken on Independence day 1863.
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That's it. Go ahead arvens.
Nick
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This town was put under seige during a major war and while millions died, those that put the town under it's watch, ultimately failed. This town's name has also changed many times, and at one time represented a major political leader of the nation.
I purposely keep out names, dates, and all that to make it that trickier. :P:
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Stalingrad?
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It could also be Leningrad.
Nick
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True, I didn't think of Leningrad because we've had it already.
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The answer is Leningrad, now St. Petersburg (again). ;) I had no idea you've used it before. -_-
Go ahead Nick.
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This island wa the site of the largest eruption in history. Where is this island?
Nick
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The island belongs to Indonesia, and the largest erruption was the one of the volcano Krakatau in 1883. I think the island itself is named Krakatau too, but I may be mistaken about this.
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No, this eruption was even stronger than the one on Krakatoa,
Nick
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An erruption in recent ages?
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It occured in the 500s Bc. so no it didn't occur recently.
Nick
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I don't know then. How do they define which eruption was stronger?
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By th amount of energy that is released. The Stromboli eruption emitted 3 times the amount of energy that the Krakatoa eruption did. Although the Krakatoa eruption was heard over a longer distance.
Nick
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I solemnly swear that I hadn't read this post by the time I made the Stromboli my last entry in the trip around the world game where I described it as active but relatively harmless nowadays. I once heard about it having a big erruption, but I never heard any details. But how can they say how much energy was released during a volcano erruption 2500 years ago? Can they tell from the layers of ashes?
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Scientists today do find out the dates of the eruptions by examinating the layers of ash. That way, they can make predictions when the next eruption will occur. Does this volcano happen to be the answer of an earlier question?
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Nick who had put up the question gave us the answer. I failed to answer it. So I suppose it is still his turn.
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Alright. Here's one. What ancient English tower is said to be the most haunted place in England?
Nick
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After looking up History's strongest volcanic eruptions, Stromboli was not listed, so I was wrong in stating that it was the strongest eruption. If an eruption is large enough , it is classifefied as a 'supervolcano'. Eruptions of this sort are thousands of times stronger than normal eruptions, the last such eruption occured near Lake Toba in Indonesia around 80000 years ago, it wiped out nearly all life in Indonesia, including humans. Sorry for the mistake you guys.
Nick
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England has quite a population of ghosts.
The tower of London, which we've had before, is said to be haunted by several ghosts, the one of Anne Bolyn being one of them.
The ghost of Charles I. is said to haunt Carrisbroke castle. But I don't know if either of these places is the most haunted in England.
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The tower of London is supposedly the most haunted castle in England. Your turn Malte.
Nick
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Named after him who reached for the new frontier this place is the harbor from where they set out to reach it.
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That would be Kennedy and the place is Cape Caneveral(originally named for Kennedy, but since renamed)
Nick
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Perfect! :yes
You got this one quickly!
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This place was used by the Germans in WWII for supplies of oil.
Nick
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Ploesti in Romania?
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Yep. Your turn malte.
Nick
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Which territory was sold to the US during WW2 and was paid mainly with warships?
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I know the Us acquired leases to bases due to the Lend-Lease Act. The bases were located in Greenland Iceland and the Carribean. I don't know of any territory that was gained from the Lend Lease acts.
Nick
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So let's do a little research, shall we? I didn't know about foreign country ruler's sightings of Abraham Lincoln's ghost either before you put up the question.
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The only territory I found was the Trust Territory of Papau, given to the US in 1947. Papau has since become an independent country.
Nick
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Sorry, I have to admit a serious mistake here. The territory I'm talking of was not in fact bought, but in exchange for the warships the US were allowed to establish military bases there even though the territories belonged to another country.
Also it was more than one territory. So if you name any of them I'll accept it as the answer. If you can name more than one, the better.
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Greenland(Denmark) and Jamaica(British) were two of the bases
Nick
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Greenland was not involved in the deal I'm talking of, but as Jamaica was the turn is yours. Other bases were permitted on Antigua, Trinidat, Bermuda, St. Lucia, Newfoundland, and in British Guayana.
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But the US did have a base in Greenlaand though.Let me think of another Place.
Nick
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You named a place (Jamaica) where the US were allowed to establish a base due to the deal. You answered the question and may come up with the next one.
I had named all the other places in my last message anyway.
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I meant question... :D Where are the 3 capitals of South africa?
Nick
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Sorry, I misunderstood you.
Three capitals of South Africa?
The three large South African cities that come to my mind are Cape Town, Johannesburg and Transvaal, but I don't know if more than one of them is considered a capital.
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Cape Town is one Capital, the other two cities you mentioned are not capitals though. Keep guessing Malte.
Nick
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Looking into an Atlas I found a town named Pretoria (never heard the name before) marked as a capital same as Cape Town. I didn't find a thrid capital though (you are not talking of the capitals of Lesotho or Swasiland, are you?). Can you tell me why they have more than one capital? I didn't know they do.
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Neither did I, so that's why I didn't say anything because I didn't even think they had such a thing. -_-
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Bloomfontein is the other. Each city is home to a part of the government(Judiciary, Legislative executive). If you thought 3 capitals was a bit much, well India has 7(all located within new Dehli)
The Capitals of Lesetho and Swaziland are Mbabane(lesetho) and Maseru(Swaziland).
Nick
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You Can Ask a question Malte, since I can't think of one.
Nick
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The name of this place describes it's location in the center between the two shores of the great ocean. Large enough to house an airfield this place became extremely important in a large conflict.
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Midway? It was an important airfield used in WW2.
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Three cheers for Kenji!
I did not expect that the answer would come that quickly! Good job! :)
Your turn.
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Hmm...let's see if this works...
An explorer sailed up a river and into a lake to find this imaginary route to the Pacific.
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That would be Henry HUdson, who sailed up the Hudson River in search of the Northwest passage.
Nick
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Yep. That one was over quick. Your turn.
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Hudson would have been my first choice too, yet on second thought I'd say Lake Champlain. It is named after Samuel de Champlain who sailed up the St. Lorence hoping (among other) to find a passage to the Pacific.
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What was the name of the proposed state of the Mormons? It made up much of the Mexican Cessation.
Nick
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I'm not sure, but didn't they want to name their land after the holy mountain "Zion"?
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No, Not From what I Remember.
Nick
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Hmm... :unsure:
I know that Salt Lake City used to be called Great Salt Lake City, but I doubt this is what you are asking for, is it?
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Nope. This was the goal of the Mormons, to have a huge state carved out of the Mexican Cessation. As you know, the area was divided up in several states and the Mormons never got close to fulfilling thier goal. As it is, thier state Utah took until 1896 to be admitted. If you don't know I'll prove the answer.
Nick
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I've checked out several webpages searching for keywords like Mormon Mexican Cessation State name etc. at google. Yet the only name mentioned there I found so far is Zion.
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The proposed state name was Deseret.
Nick
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One never stops learning. As I failed to answer the question, are you putting up another one Nick?
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Of Course. This was the original name of An african Country, which current name sounds very similar.
Nick
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Err... Congo? It used to be "Belgian Congo" until it became independent. For some time it was called Zaire and now I think the full name is "democratic republic of Congo", even though the country I'm afraid is neither very democratic nor a republic and many people have a very miserable life there.
I'm not sure if this is the country you mean though, as there are certainly other, similar examples.
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No. The Country I'm thinking of is close to Congo though.
Nick
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I know that Niger is close to Nigeria... :unsure: I would've said Congo as well since that one has changed it's name about ten times.
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You're going in the wrong direction. The country I'm looking for is south of Congo.
Nick
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Bechuanaland? Nowadays known as Republic of Botswana? There also was a country called Bophuthatswana (much more similar to Botswana), but it belongs to South Africa now.
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No, but you're in the right region. Go East of Botswana, and You'll find the country I'm looking for.
Nick
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Zimbabwe? I've seen it spelled as Simbabwe as well, but had always thought this to be a matter of language.
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Nope. I made a mistake. The Country I'm looking for is near Congo, to the East.
Nick
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Tanganyika Territory - Tanzania?
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Yep. That's the one.
Nick
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A little isle from where a little man came to cause big fuss and changes.
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England
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Nope. I doubt not many little men from England caused fuzz and changes, but England is not little from the European point of view.
Look to the middle of the middle.
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Cyprus?! Im just having a guess here
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Not Cyprus, but you are looking in the right region. Remember the little man. Anyone knows him.
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Malta?
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Getting closer, but could you name a little man from Malta who caused so much fuzz and change that anyone knows him? I couldn't.
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Elba is the island and the little man is Napolean.
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Oh gee, you are so very close and still missed. :P:
The little man is really Napoleon. He did not come from Elba though. He was just banished there for about a year, until he decided to return, which led to the rule of the 100 days and the battle of Waterloo. I've been on Elba three times. And I have also been to that other island I want to hear about the island Napoleon came from. Give me that island and the next question is yours.
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That would be Corsica.
Nick
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Right :)
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Let me think of a place.
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A town of two names. One ought to be weary not to use the wrong name in the presence of the wrong person for it might bring you in serious trouble.
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Would that be Mannass? also known as Bull run?
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Nope. I'm not talking of a battlefield (at least not in the sense of armies marching against each other). Also the many different names given to the same battlegrounds during the Civil War always refer to different landmarks. Bull Run is a creek while Mannassas is a nearby town (usually the federals named the battles after landmarks the confederates after towns).
The two names I'm looking for refer to exactly the same town however. The town is not to be found on the American continent.
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Then It might be a European town. Is it Stalingrad?
Nick
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Quoting myself:
Nope. I'm not talking of a battlefield (at least not in the sense of armies marching against each other).
I think we can safely say that Stalingrad is a to be considered a battlefield where armies fought.
Also note that you can still get into trouble for using the "wrong" name of the place I'm talking of while in the company of the "wrong" people.
Using either name of the place is sort of a political statement.
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So it has to do with politics and its not located in America. Is this place Jerusalem?
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I don't know any alternative names for Jerusalem, but there is a religiously motivated conflict at the place I'm talking of as well.
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I'm in the right region then. Mecca is a very holy site as well. Mecca has to different pronunciations, I think.
Nick
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Nope, you're not in the right region. It's not only Muslims fighting Jews or other Muslims. It can also be Christians fighting...
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Kashmir or Jammir.
Nick
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Nope. Stay in Europe.
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I may be thinking back to the Bronze Age, but I'm sure. How old is the city?
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I don't know for sure how old the town is, but I can assure you that you don't have to look that far back in history. The town had one name and got an "alternative" name about 200 or 300 years ago. The whole problem is still up to date, even though it may be not as extreme right now as it was a short while ago.
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Belfast, Northern Ireland?
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I don't know of any alternative name for Belfast, but you are extremely close now Nick.
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At least i'm in the right region now.
Nick
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Yes. now just give me the two names of the same town you'll find to the northwest.
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Londondern
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Londonderry / Derry you mean?
That's it. One can get into serious trouble calling the place Londonderry while in the presence of catholics while you should also be very careful naming it Derry in the presence of protestants.
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Ok. I Am located where the Great Wall starts.
Nick
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My first guess (after looking on a map of China) would be Shanhaiguan, a village very close to where the Great Chinese Wall (which I hope you mean) starts. However, depending on which end of the wall we consider the starting point the towns of Yumen or Jiuquan may be alternative possibilities.
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That will do. Your turn malte. :)
Nick
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The name of this town resembled the name of the empire of which it was the capital. There was a famous palace with a hundred pillars in this town, but it was destroyed by invaders from the west many of whom were assimilated by the people they had come to defeat (even though they did defeat them military).
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Rome is the only thing that comes to mind --> Roman Empire
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Byzantium
Nick
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Neither of those. You are both right about the town giving the name to the empire of which it was the capital (I have to admit that I didn't really think about for how many towns and empires this applies). Neither empire fell through invaders from the west though, so you should look a bit further to the east. Also note that the name relation between empire and capital is not as close in this case as it is in case of Rome or Byzanz. The empire I'm talking of had it's climax before both, Byzanz and Rome.
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Carthage
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No (Hell, the world was apparently SWARMING with empires named after their capitals and in the example I mean the names are probably least similar of all). Carthago though wasn't east of Byzanz. Look farther too Asia (and no, I'm not talking of Babylon).
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China
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No, the capital Beijing sounds nothing at all like China. The names of capital and empire I'm talking of are not THAT different. A country with the name of the old empire existed until mid 20th century (but don't forget we are looking for the capital of the ancient empire, not just the empire).
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Ottoman
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Nope their wasn't any town called Otto or the like. Remember, we are not looking for an empire, but a capital. The empire is just a helping hint.
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Rome's end was in the 5th century Ad and Byzantium ended in the 8th century.. hmmm.
Nick
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Look B.C. (no, I'm not talking of Brigade Commissary here ;))
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Alexandria?
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No, there was no Alexandrian Empire.
Look to the other "side".
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Athens?
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No Athenian empire either. The other side wasn't meant geographically.
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Other side... You mean the Persian Empire? Could the capital be named by the king?
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You are extremely close! Just name me that capital. I don't think it is named after a king, but it sounds somewhat similar to the empire's name.
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Um...Persepolis?
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Yes, that's it! :yes
Your turn Kenji! :)
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:wow And if that didn't describe what I felt then... :blink: :blink: :blink:
I'm going to think of one up soon...
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I got one:
There are two famous landmarks in my home state of Arizona. They are both craters, but they are also very different. Name the craters and why they are different.
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One which springs to my mind immediately is the Barringer crater, propably the best preserved crater caused by a meteor impact on this planet. I need to look up for a second crater, but from your description I stongly suppose that the other one won't originate from a meteor.
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I don't think Barringer Crater is in Arizona, but one of the craters was in fact made by a meteor, and this one also looks well-preserved to me.
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Meteor Crater and I can't thinbk of the other one...
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The Barringer crater really is in Arizona according to several webpages e.g. http://www.barringercrater.com/science/ (http://www.barringercrater.com/science/)
Another Arizonian crater I found would be the so called "Sunset crater" (which originates from volcanic erruptions): http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/volc_i...img_sunset.html (http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/volc_images/img_sunset.html)
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Ok. Barringer Crater was also named Meteor Crater, the name I was thinking, so that's right.
And Sunset Crater was in fact a result of volcanic activity, and was named especially because of the sunset color of the top part of the mountain.
Since you got them both right, the floor is yours, Malte.
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At this holy and educated place the northmen struck first on this important island.
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That would be the Viking raid on Lindisfarne Monastery in England in 793.
Nick
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Perfectly right Nick! Good going! Your turn. :)
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I know that because I did a paper on it in 2003. Anyway this place is where great and small put on sackcloth in fear.
Nick
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Aphek? It's a place mentioned in the bible:
1 Kings 20:30 But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; and there a wall fell upon twenty and seven thousand of the men that were left. And Benhadad fled, and came into the city, into an inner chamber.
31 And his servants said unto him, Behold now, we have heard that the kings of the house of Israel are merciful kings: let us, I pray thee, put sackcloth on our loins, and ropes upon our heads, and go out to the king of Israel: peradventure he will save thy life.
32 So they girded sackcloth on their loins, and put ropes on their heads, and came to the king of Israel, and said, Thy servant Benhadad saith, I pray thee, let me live. And he said, Is he yet alive? he is my brother.
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Nope, but this place is mentioned in the Bible.
Nick
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Nineveh? A town of great influence, which was said to be very sinful and was finally destroyed (I think by the Babylonians, but I'm not sure).
Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
The quote seems to fit better than the first as it includes the greatest and the least.
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Yep, it was Nineveh. Your turn malte
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Hometown of one of the worlds famoust tragic pair of lovers.
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Verona Italy
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Right!
Many people think that Romeo and Juliet lived in Venice (and perhaps the historical Romeo and Juliet did, I don't know for sure), a fact being exploited by the tourist business in Venice, but they really came from Verona.
Your turn Nick.
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This place is the setting for a famous Broadway play
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There are quite a few famous Broadway musicals. I guess we need a bit more information to make more than mere guesses.
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I agree with Malte, but I'm going to guess anyway. I'm going to say New York City, and the famous musical is West Side Story.
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No its not New York City. I really can't give out more hints because that would make it easy to guess.
Nick
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Hmmm... Did you maybe mean Hollywood? :unsure:
.Fox
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Chicago (the city or the play). :P:
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Nope. Its not in the US
Nick
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Saigon?
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No, but you're very close
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I think I'm getting cold, but "Good Morning Vietnam"? :unsure:
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No it's not Vietnam, but you're in the right area.
Nick
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The King and I? (takes place in Siam, now Thialand)
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Yep that's the one Malte. Your turn.
Nick
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I beg your pardon, Arvens gave the answer, not me.
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Oops. Sorry, I thought that was you. :slap
Nick
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:lol: :lol: :lol: I did something like that yesterday at another board.
This town, has a very high marginal income of its citizens at around $80,000, and was created by a billion dollar company starting in 1994; it is still not complete but continues to grow.
I don't want to give away too much but give it a try. ;) I'm not good at this game.
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Boys Town?
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No..... :unsure: I can say one thing but it would make it too easy.
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Celebration / Florida? If this is right I guess I had an unfair advantage as you mentioned you had to write an essay about that town, in the chat.
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Crap...I did tell someone about it. :P: Malte you cheater! :lol:
Oh well....you're up Malte.
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Between two rivers is what this place name means, but it is another tongue. Though there are many places of this name (many places between two rivers) in the world, most of you upon hearing the name will think of a reagion in the largest of the states.
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Not necessarily....are you thinking of Persia (aka Iraq) between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers?
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No. It's rather cold a place.
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Siberia?
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Nope, remember it's in the largest of the states (which fits quite well to Siberia, but I was talking of states on another level). Those of you who read uncle scrooge comics will be familiar with the place ;)
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The what? :blink:
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Which part is not clear?
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Alaska?
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The place is located in Alaska. There was a big Gold-rush in that area.
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Does this refer to the Klondike Gold rush of 1899?
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That's it! Klondike, which means "between two rivers". A name given to many places, even though the one in Alaska is the most famous. Your turn Nick.
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This City was part of Canada before the gold rush, but part of Alaska after it. What city is it?
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Skagway?
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Yep. that was quick MAlte.
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It was a lucky guess then. There are just three towns which played a role during the Klondike gold rush which I know by name and with Skagway I picked the one which I knew is furthest to the west (to Alaska). The other two towns I had in mind are Whitehorse and Dawson. Anyway:
Here a duke became a king as a king was slain.
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HAstings, england
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Right and your turn. I've been there many years ago. To this day they are not entirely certain on which one of two possible hills the battle was fought.
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Does this relate to the Battle of Bunker Hill? I don't have my notebook on me, but it really wasn't fought there....there's another hill....
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No, Nick gave the answer already. Hastings is the place. He is to put up the next question. The hill where the battle of Bunker Hill was really fought is called Breeds Hill.
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:slap :slap I just read the last reply and didn't bother to see that the question had already been answered. :lol :lol Oi...
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It Happens Atvens. This island is named afdter a holiday.
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The Easter islands or the Christmas islands? (I think the later is just an antiquated name for Hawaii)
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I've never heard Hawaii referred to as the Christmas Islands. :unsure:
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It may be that it wasn't Hawaii, but if it was, I wouldn't be surprised if you have never heard of it, as the name dates back to the days of the explorer James Cook (1770s).
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Easter is the one I'm looking for. and there is a Christmas island near Antartica
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This town is where the blue runs into the white.
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Khartoum Sudan. It it located where the Nile Braches off into the White and Blue Nile Rivers.
Nick
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Exactly! Your turn.
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This sea is gradually shrinking due to environmental damage.
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The Aral Sea?
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Yep. It's expected to completely disappear by 2100.
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^ An ecologic disaster, not only for those who live there.
This is the town in whose cathedral the king had to be crowned. Which prevented the crowning of a king when the town was occupied by enemies of the country whose king had to be crowned there.
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Westminster Abbey is where all the English Kings and queens were crowned dating back to the 1100's.
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So much is true, but was there ever a time when a king could not be crowned because Westminster Abbey was occupied by someone else? If so please tell me and the answer will be accepted even though I'm thinking of another town.
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Yes during the English Civil War. The pro-parliment forces controlled the abbey so when Charles the II was forced to abdicate his son was nor permitted to be crowned at Westminster.
Nick
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Okay, then it is your turn as the place fulfills all criterias.
The place I was thinking of is Reims where the French kings where crowned. During the 100 years war King Charles VII. could not be crowned there until the town was retaken shortly after the siege of Orleans had been ended (Joanne of Arc).
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Very interesting Malte. Now let me think...
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Your turn Nick.
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This lace is not only known for its depth but for its clarity as well.
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Lake Titicaca (spelling) in the Andes?
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No, guess again malte...
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Can you give another hint? There are many deep and clear lakes in the world.
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this one is the deepest....
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Lake Baikal n Siberia?
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That's the one :)
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The white mountain is the translation of the name and place I'm looking for.
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Kilimanjaro, in kenya.
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Nope. Kilimanjaro means "The mountain that glitters". The mountain I'm talking of is on another continent.
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Anncouraga(sp) in Peru
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I don't know about that mountain or its name's meaning. However, the one I'm looking for is still on another continent.
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Ok not africa, or South America... 5 others left...
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That's right; so which one? The mountain I'm talking of is actually fairly well known.
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Everest?
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Nope, that one is named after a person if I'm not very mistaken. Here is the decisive hint: It is the highest mountain of the continent where it is located.
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Mt. Elbrus, in Europe?
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It is a disputed question whether or not Mount Elbrus and the Caucasian mountains belong to Asia or Europe. Personally I think it belongs to Asia. But remember, the name of the mountain (if translated to English) reads "White Mountain".
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ok, let me google...
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I said it before and I will say it again. I am NOT going to stop you from googling.
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:lol: when I'm typing that Malte it means I'm thinking. So don't take it literally :P:
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So you are not thinking when you don't type it :lol
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:lol: good one Malte :lol
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Sorry about the teasing. I just realized that you frequently write such messages neither asking for hints nor giving the answer. No offense meant.
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none taken... I take pride in my knowledge, and try to guess the answer off thge top of my head before resorting to hints or goggling. But I don't take myslef so seriously as to not laugh at a good ribbing... :lol:
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I would be a liar if I claimed not to be proud of my own knowledge. It is good to know a lot. However, nobody knows all. So it is even better to know how to learn about a particular piece of information.
Or to put it shortly, I think higher of the ability to learn than of knowing everything. I may be mistaken, but I think Einstein shared this opinion and said so.
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Yes, it is better to have the capacity to learn than to think you know everything. With Knowledge comes arrogance, and that impulse to look down on those who don't understand as well or know as much as you do must be kept in check.
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I regret that we are almost the only ones left here and that most of the others probably don't read these posts at all. There could be nothing more pathetic than just celebrating the own knowledge. I hoped to pass on some through this game, alas most people don't seem to be interested in what they don't know anyway :cry
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yes, but we are also going very indepth on the subject as well Malte... that I think has curtailed interest as well...
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No doubt about that.
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Sometimes I think Nick, that it would be lovely to meet you at the MSN messenger or at ICQ. I'm sure we would enjoy chatting about our favorite topics.
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Perhaps if we try to scale back the complexity of the questions perhaps then others would join in...
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To be honest, I do not think we will.
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I don't have Msn, so the only way we can chat is through e-mail :( But from reading these threads it is clear we share a keen interest in history and each possess a good deal of knowledge about history. I personally find it interesting to see how we can talk about a similar topic and draw completely different conclusions.
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I don't have Msn, so the only way we can chat is through e-mail
False! Another way is to install the MSN messenger. You can simply create a hotmail address and use it then. It doesn't cost anything, nor are you flooded with spam or the like. Our email contact came to an end rather soon, remember?
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touche Malte.... I'll ask my folks to install MSn(that if its comptible with Dell) :)
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:D If I got you that far, nothing is impossible ;) Maybe we can get some others back here after all?
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perhaps, you should contact Kenji, she does know a lot about planes...
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Contact him because of "Brain Food"?
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Yes, you should contact her...
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Well, as for that place we were talking about...
Not too many white mountains left in the world. Come on Nick. Not too far from where I life and of considerably high. The name in the language of the country where it is located (not Germany) is "White mountain". I did not expect it to be that hard.
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Edelweiss, in Switzerland? No that's a flower's name.
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Look in France and if you know what white mountain means in French you know that mountian.
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I don't speak French, but my sister does...I'm gonna look it up...
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Just look for France's / Western Europe's highest mountain.
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Mont Blanc?
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That's the one.
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Blanc is white then... interesting
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Yes, very interesting indeed :lol:
Your turn Nick.
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This place was home to Elizabeth Barthory, The "blood Countess'.
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Hungary
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Nope
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Scotland? I'm currently thinking of Mary, Queen of Scots. (only name I could recognize besides "Bloody Mary")
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Bloody Mary was another daughter of King Henry VIII and thus a cousin to Mary queen of Scots (the two are frequently confused).
Is it Slovakia? The country appears along with Elizabeth Barthory, but I didn't find any satisfactory description of who she was and what she did. In case the answer is correct, can you please tell us Nick?
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Yes, in the region of Translyvania, which extends over into Romania. Elizabeth Bathory was known as the Blood Countess, because she had hundreds of young girls killed and bathed in thier blood, believing that by doing so she could maintain her beauty forever. She was mentally disturbed, and also probably a lesbian(she was said to be lovers with some of the women with helped her capture and entice victims, and she was said to have had sex with some of her victims before killing them) :x But because she was of the nobility, and was kin to several important leaders (including the King of Poland) no one stepped in to stop her crimes, until aroiund 1611. By then, she had moved on to victims of noble status. At any rate, stories of the numerous missing girls and tales of the unspeakable acts which went on inside her castle were legion, and finally her brother was ordered to investigate. her castle was stormed, and her crimes were revealed. They found several recent victims hanging up, they had been tortured. they also found dozens of others in the dugeons, who were waiting thier turn. they also found a book listing the number of victims(at least 650, some say it was 800). But due to her nooble status, she was sentenced to life imprisonment, her accomplices had thier fingers ripped out and were burned alive. She was walled up inside her castle, and died 4 years later. Bathory was cited as an inspiration for the vampiresses in Dracula, and legend says she was a vampiress herself. Her family was related to Vlad Tepes as well.
More info on bathory than you probably wantted to know malte. The gory and distrubing facts of one of history's most imfamous villians.
Nick
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Not that I am craving for blood and gore, but with all that has been committed throughout history it is not like this one would cause me sleepless nights. In fact I'm glad to get more than superficial information. Just one of many examples for the fact that nobility is nothing to be gained by birth.
The pucelle was captured and two armistices were signed at this place.
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Pucelle? That souunds like a Spanish term...
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It isn't.
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From typing in the word 'pucelle' all i can find is a 13th century French painter named pucelle. Another hint, if you please...
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It is French indeed and "la pucelle" is not just a name, but also has a meaning to it. I think the closest English translation would be "The maiden".
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Would the maiden be Joan of Arc?
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Maybe. The question however is about a place.
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I would have to guess Paris.
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Is it Versailes?
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Neither. I take it Versailes was guessed because of the armistice part. You are guessing "in the right direction", but not quite. A treaty not named after the place of a preceding armistice.
Jeanne d'Arc is the pucelle I was talking of. She attacked Paris, was wounded, failed to take it, but wasn't captured there.
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Orleans?
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Nope. That was the side of one of Jeanne d'Arc's greatest triumphes. She was wounded there, but not captured. Also I don't know of any armistice ever being signed there.
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Did the Armistice end the 100 years war?
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Nope. All of those armistices were a totally different (hi)story.
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hmmm.. thanks... time to goggle...
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Is it Compiegne?
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Perfectly right Stitch! :)
Jeanne d'Arc was captured at Compiegne. The armistice that ended WW1 was signed in a train carriage. In 1940 Hitler ordered the surrender of France to be signed in that same carriage. I heard two different versions about what happened next to the carriage. One version says Hitler ordered to blow it up while other versions say that (quite the contrary) it was brought to Berlin as a trophy where it was later destroyed during the city's bombing.
Your turn Stitch :)
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The train actually survived the war. It was damaged during the boimbing, from what I 've heard, but after the 1945 i don't know what became of it.... Hilter blblew up the tablet demouncing the German's 'aggression during WWI. And He indeed had it attached to his personal train.
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Which makes a third version on what happened to that train carriage. I might really want to find out which one is true.
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I retract my earlier statement. From the Wikipedia site it states the carriage was indeed destroyed in 1945 at the war's end. For some reason I had thought it had survived the Allied bombing.
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This town is in the heart of the midwest and was used in one of TBS' self promos.
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Cleveland?
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Farther west
If someone can't get this, they should go to the Zoo.
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Milwaukee
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Too far west
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Chicago
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What is TBS?
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You're getting closer
It has the same kind of humor as Walla Walla.
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Detriot?
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It's halfway between the last 2 guesses.
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South Bend iNdiana?
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What is TBS and what is Walla Walla?
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TBS, stands for Turner broadcasting System, it is owned by Ted Turner, who owned the Altanta Braves for many years. Walla Walla is a city in the state of Washington, and is often citeed because of its funny name.
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You're just south of the city.
It is in Michigan.
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lansing?
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The city has train service between Chicago and Detroit.
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Hamilton?
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Try finding Amtrak's Wolverine line.
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Lalamazoo
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I'll give it to you. It is Kalamazoo (K-zoo).
I'm wondering: do the places in this game have to be real?
Anyway, your turn.
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Usually yes Stitch.
those was a proposed state composed of northern Wisconsoiin and Michigan. What was its name?
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After more than a year without any posts I guess it is okay if I just put up another place description:
This place is the bottleneck between the two pillars of an ancient Greek hero.
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adlantis? (did I spell that right?)
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Nope, but Plato described Atlantis to be located beyond that place I'm talking of (a place which really exists).
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Would that be Gibraltar?
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Exactly. The Greeks called it the Pillars of Herkules (that's where the ancient hero comes in) and the Spanish flag includes a reference to this today, as it shows two pillars on each side of the coat of arms, symbolizing the pillars of Herkules.
Your turn Nick :)
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This is the place where Osama Bin Laden escaped from US forces in 2001.
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Anyone???
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Tora Bora.
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Yep. Your turn Malte...
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The town in the lake with three dams leading to the shore. Lake, damns, and town are gone now, but a new one was built on it.
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tenocatlon(Sp)? Mexico City was built over it..
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Figure out the correct spelling (the legacy of the Aztec empire deserves that much respect) and the floor will be yours.
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Tenochtitlan..
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And Montezuma (aka Moctezuma) clears the stage for you.
Your turn Nick. :)
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He was actually Montezuma II, there was an earlier ruler names Montezema in the early 14th century.
This divided island is among the most remote places on earth.
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You're right about the Montezuma being actually Montezuma II. However, as so little is known about the 1st one that I would assume whenever Montezuma without any number is named the 2nd is meant. Same as anybody will understand "Napoleon" as Napoleon Bonaparte rather than Napoleon III. for example.
New Zealand? Actually two islands divided by a narrow channel?
Or is it a political division you are talking about?
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Its a political division. As for montezuma I, Engineering An Empire: the Aztecs on the History Channel had some nice info on him. he expanded the Aztec empire to the Pacfic coast.
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I wish we had a history channel over here. Well there is still the university library with its good offer of documentaries on DvD.
As for divided Islands Cyprus, Ireland, and Haiti / Dominican Republic spring to my mind. Looking at the closeness to other countries and major metropolitans I wouldn't consider any of them to be among the most remote places on earth. Is one of those the island you were thinking of?
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Nope...keep guessing..
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New Guinea or Borneo? Both of these too are not too far from other densly settled areas, so I'm unsure if they are among the most remote places.
Is the island you are looking for a very tiny island?
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no, it is fairly large....athough not as big as Borneo or New Guinea.
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Taking Guantanamo into account Cuba might be considered divided, but I don't reckon any spot in the Carribean to be among the most remote of the earth.
Spitzbergen? For all I know the island belongs to Norway, but because of some treaty Russia may excavate rescources there too. It sure is a very remote place, so this one may be a good guess at last.
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Gitmo is techincally part of Cuba...and Spitzbergen is remote, but not the one I'm looking for.
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I must admit I'm running out of possibilities. Sri Lanka? There is an ongoing Civil War, but no division in the sense of any existing border. It is not exactly remote either. Hints would be appreciated.
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This island is in the southern Hemisphere...
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Timor?
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No that's not it...go further south...
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You are not talking of the Fiji which where a coup d'etat took place today, do you?
Actually you may as Fiji has been administratively divided in four parts before.
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nope.. think magellan..
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Tierra del Fuego! (Thanks for the hint, this one was helping I guess. I don't want to celebrate too early).
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:D You got it.. Tierra del Fuego is one of the most remote places on Earth, only 600 miles from Antartica at its southernmost point. It is shared between Argentina and Chile and is seperted from the mainland continent by the straights of Magellan. It is very desolate, and sparsely populated.
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The point which is the farthest from the core.
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The summit of Mt. Everest?
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No, but you are on the right track (in looking for a summit). Keep in mind, that the earth is not a perfectly geometric sphere.
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The North or South Pole?
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Nope, the point farthest from the core is in fact a mountain's top. Mount Everests top is the highest above sea level, yet not the furthest from the earth's core. The Mountain we are talking of is not located in Asia.
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(scratches head)
The summit of Chimborazo, Ecuador?
(Answer from Wikipedia. All I knew about Chimborazo before was that it was a volcano.)
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:yes Correct!
Your turn :)
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These Spanish cities are not in Spain but on the African continent.
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Ceuta and Melilla?
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Correct.
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The capital of the place named after the place where the Collossus was placed.
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Colossus--Rhodes--Rhodesia--Zimbabwe--Harare?
(Note, only the last one is my answer.)
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No, not quite as complex. Rhodes is indeed the place where the collossus was placed. I'm not sure if indeed the name Rhodesia is originally derived from Rhodes. Here is a hint that may help figuring out the name of that place whose capital is the answer: "What is Rhode s"?
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Are you perhaps referring to the US state of Rhode Island? If so, then its capital is Providence.
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Providence is the place and your turn it is ;)
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This island was the first point of land, outside Antarctica, to see sunrise on January 1, 2000. Give the island name and the country it is located in.
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Vanatu?
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Nope. But it is one of those Pacific islands. Try again.
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Tuvalu?
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I'm asking for a particular island, not just a country. Anyway, the island in question isn't in Tuvalu.
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Can you give us a hint..?
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The island is named Millennium Island. Give its former name (which starts with C) and the country it is located in (starts with K.)
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Caroline Island, belonging to the Republic of Kiribati.
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Correct. Your turn.
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This is the place with the arguably worst weather in the world. Some of the highest winds speeds (I think this includes THE highest) ever were measured there, and also some extremely sudden weather changes. The place we are talking about is a mountain.
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K2?
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I don't think the weather there is worse than on any of the surrounding mountains. The mountain I'm looking for is not located in Asia.
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Kilimanjaro?
That mountain in Antarctica? Cant' imagine a harsher environment.
I'm giving two guesses, I know Kilimanjaro is in Africa, I just don't no the name of that big mountain in the south pole.
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I don't think weather is supposed to be particularly bad around Kilimanjaro. The mountain isn't located in Africa or Antarctica, nor is it in Europe.
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Is it Mount Washington?
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:yes The very same.
Your turn :)
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Ok. I'm thinking of a very small river with a very short name. I'll give you a hint; it's in the U.S. west of the Mississippi. Also note that there are two possible answers.
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D River (Oregon, about 36 meters long)?
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Define "short"...less than five letters?
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Was the D river one of the answers you had in mind noname?
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Reviving an ancient thread.
Was it noname? :)
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For the sake of keeping it going I'll just come up with the next one.
The name of this place means "by the Monks". It is located at a tributary to the Danube. The place is the capital of a Freistaat.
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I was at the place in 2005 and posted about it in the GOF. The place includes one of the largest Museums over here. It is also the location of THE Oktoberfest.
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Munih, Germany?
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In English it would be spelled Munich I think. The German name would be M¸nchen. You meant the right place. Your turn LBT :yes
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Whoops, that was a typo. My "c", "v", and up arrow key is practically dead.
What Southern California town is in San Diego County, and also one of the first towns to adopt prohibiton? It's name in Spanish means "hidden."
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Escondido?
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Correct! I've been to Grand Avenue there, it's pretty neat.
your turn Malte.
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Off this place the dominance of a power over one of the worlds elements was determined for a long time.
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Gibraltar?
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Good guess. It is not the place I have in mind but you are in every respect very close.
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The Mediterrean Sea? Many Battle were fought here over control of the sea..
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Look on the other side of the Pillars of Hercules, but not to far. You are indeed looking for a place where a battle was fought and your first guess also went in the right direction as you must have been thinking of the power mentioned in the original one.
Now somebody "expects that every man will do his duty" and answer the question :p
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do you have the battle of Trafalgar in mind?
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And the location would be the cape after which the battle was named. Cape Trafalgar is the place I was asking for.
Your turn Nick :)
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This is the place where counterfeiters tried to steal Abraham Lincoln's remains in 1876... interesting story which I will tell after the answer is given..
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Springfield, Illinois
I saw a program on the History Channel about that a week ago. I assume you have seen it as well, to be mentioning that.
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Yes Chronicler. the counterfeiters wanted 200000 dollars and a pardon for one of thier members who had been arrested and imprisoned for counterfeiting money..
They tried to steal the body on election Night, 1876 and there really weren't any laws on the books at the time about stealing a body, just posssessions that the dead might have on them..
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Your turn Chronicler :yes
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I was aware of that. I just haven't been able to think of a question to ask. I guess I'll go for this one and hope it's not too hard. (I'll offer hints after each guess)
This town/small city was the site of the northernmost conflict in the American Civil War.
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Oh dear, it would be kind of unfair for me to blurt out the answer while I'm working on a university paper on the Civil War and also take a great interest in it in general. I'll wait if someone else posts the answer :p
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There are several places claiming credit to be the place of the northernmost battle of the civil war and which one we settle on largely depends on what we accept as a "battle".
During a raid the confederate cavalryman John Hunt Morgan surrendered his force near Salineville Ohio, which some claim to be the northernmost battle deserving of the term.
Possibly a saver bet would probably be the skirmish at Sporting Hill near the outskirts of Harrisburg Pennsylvania (it was the farthest members of the Army of Northern Virginia ever got and unless I'm totally mistaken it is further north than Salineville).
However, there was one other action which is held to be the northernmost "battle" of the civil war though it is contested whether or not the event deserves to be called a battle. Confederate raiders from Canada (not wearing uniforms), with the approval of the confederate government, robbed a bank in Saint Albans / Vermont killing one citizen and wounding another while having one of the raiders mortally wounded in return. If one accepts this as a battle Saint Albans in Vermont would be the the northernmost "battlefield" of the Civil War.
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Saint Albans, Vermont is the place I had in mind. Interestingly, I live in Vermont and yet I never knew this fact until I saw it on the History Channel. (It was a miniseries called 'The States'. It's basically some brief histories about each of the 50 states.)
Your turn, Malte.
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At this place the great flower power struggle started. But as far as this place was concerned the beginning was not the end for a king was to be freed here. The place is very close here.
Let's see if this riddle talk is inscrutable or not :lol
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You're talking about the War of the Roses, correct?
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Aye, "the great flower power struggle" :p
Do you know the place I'm referring to?
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So this woukld be somewhere in England, correct?
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That's right :yes
If you look at my post there are several very direct hints in the description.
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St Albains?
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That's correct. The so called Wars of the Roses began with the battle of St. Albans in 1455, in the second battle of St. Albans in 1461 king Henry VI. was liberated by his followers after he had been captured in the battle of Northampton (a bit more than half a year earlier). My remark that the place was "very close here" referred to the fact that the last answer before this question had been Saint Albans / VT.
Your turn Nick :yes
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This is where the Great wall of China starts..
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The Shanhai Pass?
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Shanhaiguan pass.
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yes Noname. yourr turn
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Okay. This place has a similar name to an Islamic Holy place, but predates it by a long time, and is also located in a desert.
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is it mecca?
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No. It predates the Islamic holy places because it was founded before Islam, and would never gain any significance to Islam despite its name.
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is it Meckah which in the Shara, I believe..
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It is not named Mecca, Meckah, or anything quite along those lines, but it IS similar to another city of Islamic importance.
Here's a hint: a lot of people were buried not too far from this place.
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Medina?
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"Medina" by itself is not the full name, but you are close. This is NOT in Saudi Arabia...
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Medina de Rioseco in Spain? I think its origins lie in ancient times and in 1808 a battle during the Napoleonic wars was fought there so I reckon the would be many people buried in the vicinity.
Medina-Sidonia, also in Spain may be another possibility though I know no other reason for many people to be buried there other than the fact that over the more than 2000 years of its existence many people would be buried especially because of the sacral buildings of the place.