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Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => Hobbies and Recreation => Computer and Electronics => Topic started by: Nimrod on March 11, 2008, 02:54:12 PM

Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 11, 2008, 02:54:12 PM
Darkhououman can¥t connect to the GOF side and pleased me if I can post this for her.

For some reason, I am not able to load up The Gang of Five messageboard. The problem started at around midnight last night, and it still persists now. If I try to access the site, the browser (regardless of the one I choose) freezes and then, after a short time, displays an error message. The problem is not with my internet, as I can still visit other sites and sign on messenger programs. The problem is not with Invisionfree as I can access other Invisionfree boards. And the problem is not with my computer because the Nintendo Wii is also unable to connect me to the board. I don't know how long it'll take for this problem to be fixed, but I could be gone from the board for weeks, perhaps even until next month when we move to a new house.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Keni on March 11, 2008, 03:15:52 PM
Yeah, she told me the same thing. It happened to me once with another board but it fixed itself a few hours later. It's a strange problem how it isolates to a certain place and just persists.

I hope she'll regain access to the boards again soon.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Clawandfang on March 11, 2008, 03:30:41 PM
Nimrod, you might want to make it clearer that it is Darkhououman saying that. It had me really confused for a couple of minutes.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Petrie. on March 11, 2008, 03:33:57 PM
Seems to be fine now.  Sometimes the servers receive upgrades.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 11, 2008, 03:38:49 PM
She should try again, sometimes the servers or a connection is up to something it seems.  Hopefully her problem is resolved.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Clawandfang on March 11, 2008, 03:43:55 PM
I suppose we'll hear about it as soon as she can get on.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 11, 2008, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: Clawandfang,Mar 11 2008 on  02:30 PM
Nimrod, you might want to make it clearer that it is Darkhououman sayign that. It had me really confused for a couple of minutes.
okey, fixed it
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 11, 2008, 05:47:32 PM
I've had troubles even loading anything on the page when I go to GOF sometimes.  It's only happened twice, but I know it wasn't me cuz Manny Cav couldn't get on either.  Invisionfree's 7th server must've been receiving upgrades or repairs.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 11, 2008, 09:04:43 PM
I think I had a problem coming on here once or twice, but I just tried again later assuming the site was down for upgrade or bad connection.  Hopefully it's the same in her case.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Mornai on March 11, 2008, 10:45:38 PM
That's too bad for Darkhououman, i too had the ame problem just a while ago. I wonder why this is happening. :huh:
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 12, 2008, 02:58:58 AM
I wonder if she is still having problems connecting.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Petrie. on March 12, 2008, 08:23:24 AM
Well, we're fine, so its not an invision server problem.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 12, 2008, 01:55:04 PM
Maybe it is some sort of connection problem from where she is to the server where the forum is.  Not sure if that is possible but just an idea.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Mornai on March 12, 2008, 02:40:34 PM
Maybe it IS a connection problem, sometimes i've had connection problems getting to other sites as well.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 12, 2008, 05:45:38 PM
Probably some sort of bug, virus, or spyware.  Darkhououmon's computer always seems to be under intense attack. -_-
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Clawandfang on March 12, 2008, 06:32:10 PM
Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Mar 12 2008 on  09:45 PM
Probably some sort of bug, virus, or spyware.  Darkhououmon's computer always seems to be under intense attack. -_-
Hmm, she said something about her Wii not being able to get on either, so I for one am going with either the sever or the connection theory.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 12, 2008, 07:32:34 PM
It could be either.  I wonder if anyone knows more then I can who can offer suggestions and what to do to her.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 13, 2008, 02:46:45 PM
Well, I think it can¥t be the server, she told me she tried it with several servers yet. And connection of her is also very fast. The only thing I can think about is a Virus, like lbtlover said :mad
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 13, 2008, 03:58:32 PM
Maybe she can use one of the free online virus scanners, there are some around I think.  If she doesn't already have a virus scanner.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Mornai on March 13, 2008, 04:02:56 PM
:mad I had a virus once but at the time every virus remover hardware only scanned it and i had to pay for it to remove it. :angry:
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 13, 2008, 04:40:42 PM
@ Mornai. Better option would be to formate your computer. I had a virus some days before and formated my PC. Now it is away.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Mornai on March 13, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
It's been long gone for a while, i was just saying i had one before and what those virus cleaners want you to pay to remove thme for you.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 13, 2008, 04:59:03 PM
oh, I see, just if you get one again ;)
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Clawandfang on March 13, 2008, 06:38:24 PM
I still can't think how a virus is managing to affect both her computer and her Wii.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 13, 2008, 07:29:19 PM
I do wonder what it is.  I can only think it's some sort of connection between her pc or wii and whichever pc the board is on or somewhere alone the route it takes.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Coyote_A on March 14, 2008, 12:50:04 AM
If you ask me, i'm suggest Darkhououman to try to use another browser to visit the forum. I also think, that it maybe her provider, who blocks the "invisionfree" resources for his clients for some reason.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Mornai on March 14, 2008, 01:38:58 AM
Well, that would seem unusualy strange for a broswer manager to block this one? as it has nothing rude much, unless it is emant to block ALL invision free websites.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 14, 2008, 03:17:06 AM
Didn't she say she can visit the other invision forums she may go to?  That it was just this one?


I didn't know one could web surf with the wii.  I heard about the download old games thing but didn't know you could web surf with it.  I know with the ds lite you can if you buy a browser thing to plug into both of it's slots.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Mornai on March 14, 2008, 03:45:55 PM
Well, hopefully she can find a way to get back on, but unless this advice doesn't work, we will just have to wait.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Chiletrek on March 15, 2008, 12:59:43 AM
Hello:
 I just receive word from DarkHououmon, the problem is with all invisionfree boards with z7 or s7 (like this one), and there are no problems with boards of any other number.
 I hope this can help a bit to get a solution.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 15, 2008, 03:22:39 AM
Maybe Petrie or if someone knows about coding may have some ideas, or someone who knows computers and the internet very well.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Malte279 on March 15, 2008, 06:45:18 AM
I got Kacie's mail as well. This is really strange.
She asked me if there was any chance that she was banned "by accident". Of course banning is not so easy as for it to happen "accidentaly". I did check out the list of suspended / banned names, email addresses, and IPs though. Kacie is definitely not on it. I asked her to create another invisionfree account to see if it is possible to enter the GOF with that one. If it is not possible the IP or her provider may be part of the problem.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 15, 2008, 07:20:38 AM
I could always reroute her through my home server if her ISP doesn't allow her to access invisionfree sites (though I can't imagine why they wouldn't).  Of course then if She got banned, I would be banned too and visa versa.  It would essentially be two people sharing the same IP address and computer while using different computers.


I don't think it's a problem with her ISP though.  That is of course unless invisionfree utilizes some sort of authorizing IP thingy.  It's very rare though.  I don't even know what it's called exactly.


It's most likely a problem with her computer.  Does anyone know if she's tried another browser?  Even reinstalling her current browser might help.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Malte279 on March 15, 2008, 07:27:14 AM
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Of course then if She got banned, I would be banned too and visa versa.
She was certainly not banned by anyone from the GOF. We certainly don't ban people for fun.
Any help to get Kacie back to us would be greatly appreciated and if there is anything that we can do but did not do yet, please tell us. So far we don't know what the cause of the problem is.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 15, 2008, 09:52:24 AM
Maybe it has to do something with her connection, I am not sure. :unsure:
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 15, 2008, 09:53:17 AM
@ LBTlover, yes she tried other browsers as well.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 15, 2008, 10:52:32 AM
Maybe rerouting her will help.  At worst she'd likely be where she is now.  It sounds complicated so I'll leave it between you, Dh, and the admin here.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Malte279 on March 15, 2008, 11:10:06 AM
I wrote a message of the following content in the forum of invisionfree's support side:
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Hello,
since last Tuesday DarkHououmon, an active and highly appreciated member of our invisionfree online community at http://www.s7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive (http://www.s7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive) is unable to log in to our community or any of the s7 or z7 domains in general. She was definitely not banned or suspended by any member of our community as, for our knowledge, she always observed the rules and regulations of both invisionfree in general and our community. As we could not find any reason for her being unable to enter our community and as the problem doesn't seem to be temporary we are wondering if she was banned from invisionfree for any offense committed elsewhere which caused a bannishment by a higher official. Her accountname is DarkHououmon and her IP address is 24.238.35.235.
Can you tell us if her inablility to enter s7 or z7 domains is the result of some official decision? It does not appear like her at all to cause any trouble and the members of our community are very concerned about her being unable to participate in our discussions anymore as she really is highly appreciated for being an active and polite member of our community.
We don't know why Kacie is unable to log in, but perhaps we will hear about it if it was a decision of some higher official.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Malte279 on March 15, 2008, 11:59:44 AM
Strangely enough the message I posted there seems to have been deleted and the same goes for the account I created to post that message :huh:
However, at the moment there is a message there posted by Kacie herself (who told me that a previous account of hers had been deleted). If her question is deleted too without any answer this does not exactly cast a positive light on the support of invisionfree <_<
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Serris on March 15, 2008, 12:20:19 PM
If we knew what the error message said, perhaps it could shed some light on what's going on.

Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Clawandfang on March 15, 2008, 01:08:24 PM
They just delete you account for asking for help?
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Chiletrek on March 15, 2008, 03:10:59 PM
Hello:
 I was wondering the same, how is that possible? :o  it really makes me think not to risk your real account Malte, to avoid problems with that account too. But then, how can we fiond out if there was not a decision from higher commands of invisionfree?
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 15, 2008, 04:09:51 PM
Quote from: Malte279,Mar 15 2008 on  10:59 AM
Strangely enough the message I posted there seems to have been deleted and the same goes for the account I created to post that message :huh:
However, at the moment there is a message there posted by Kacie herself (who told me that a previous account of hers had been deleted). If her question is deleted too without any answer this does not exactly cast a positive light on the support of invisionfree <_<
I just can they to that, that it looks like someone is going to delete accounts on the z7 or s7 servers. Maybe a hacker or something like that. That would be bad. :blink:
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 15, 2008, 05:07:05 PM
I wonder if it is a hacker, or someone high up on those boards is doing it for some reason, or company policy.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 15, 2008, 06:43:07 PM
Or just for fun. There are many of these idiots which are doing such things for their entertainment. <_<
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 15, 2008, 07:50:45 PM
I don't think a hacker would waste their time with something like invisionfree.  Not a real one with any skills anyway. :rolleyes: Bad hackers like to do things like attempt to gain access to highly secured infrastructures (which invisionfree is not) and hack programs and files so they can obtain things illegally without paying.  No one would waste their time with a small server like invisionfree's 7th that hosts only a few thousand forums.

As for Darkhououmon's problem, it would be of great assistance if I could see what error message, if any she gets when trying to log on.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Nimrod on March 15, 2008, 08:56:57 PM
You tried to access the address http://s7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive (http://s7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive), which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the Web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
Make sure your Internet connection is active and check whether other applications that rely on the same connection are working.
Check that the setup of any Internet security software is correct and does not interfere with ordinary Web browsing.
If you are behind a firewall on a Local Area Network and think this may be causing problems, talk to your systems administrator.
Try pressing the F12 key on your keyboard and disabling proxy servers, unless you know that you are required to use a proxy to connect to the Internet. Reload the page.


That is the error message she always gets.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Coyote_A on March 16, 2008, 03:36:04 AM
Haven't she installed any programm before this message start to appearing, that interact with the Internet connection? Firewall or somekind of a toolbar? :huh:
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Petrie. on March 16, 2008, 06:56:45 AM
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You tried to access the address http://s7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive (http://s7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive), which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the Web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.

There's her problem.  s7 is not technically the correct server, it has been a redirect for a while.  She needs to be using z7 in its place.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Petrie. on March 16, 2008, 07:00:29 AM
Quote from: Malte279,Mar 15 2008 on  10:59 AM
Strangely enough the message I posted there seems to have been deleted and the same goes for the account I created to post that message :huh:
However, at the moment there is a message there posted by Kacie herself (who told me that a previous account of hers had been deleted). If her question is deleted too without any answer this does not exactly cast a positive light on the support of invisionfree <_<
If you posted it in the wrong section, they'll lock it, delete it, etc.  Also, you posted a lot of personal stuff (IP Addresses) and that's a pretty big no-no.  Did you actually post this in the forums?

As much as I hate to say this, the issue is with Kacie's computer...not invisionfree.  If it was a big invision issue, a lot more of us would have the same problems.  I don't pretend to know what's wrong (because I don't) but its on her end.  ISP provider, web browser, something....
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 16, 2008, 09:29:24 AM
Agreed.  Is there any way I could contact her besides a PM?  Would someone please PM me her email address or something so I can get in contact with her?

I want to suggest something to her, but I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to discuss it in detail on the board.  I don't exactly want to teach a server bypass hack to every soul that comes across this thread.  If I taught it openly, it would be impossible to ban anyone who saw this thread.  I believe it's currently the only way for Darkhououmon to connect.

I want this to be the last solution however.  I don't want to teach anyone server bypass techniques if I don't have to.  First, I need to know if Darkhououmon is accessing the net via wireless and I need to know her ISP type (ie. cable, dialup, dsl).  Her first step should be to deactivate any firewall that is currently active, including the windows firewall and any third party firewalls she may have installed.  If she has more than one computer, she should attempt to connect with the other one.  If she only uses wireless, she should attempt to connect via wired to see if that works.  If she uses a wireless router, she should go to the start menu, click run, type "cmd" and press enter.  Then she should type in "ipconfig" and the number that comes up under "default gateway" she should type into her web browser in order to access her routers control panel.  Then she should check to see if any types of sites are being blocked and if she's using a static IP.  If she is using a wireless connection, she should repair that connection and try again.  There are some viruses that will take a site in your favorites list and make it impossible for your computer to connect to that site.  I don't believe that's the case however.  It's most likely an ISP issue.  If she uses comcast or verizon internet service, she should reset her modem/router by simply unplugging it and waiting 50 seconds before plugging it back in again.  I can't tell you how many times I've had to do that because my stupid internet wasn't working right. :rolleyes:
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 16, 2008, 10:05:56 AM
Okay temporarily back on. My dad suggested I use AOL to try to access this site, as it is our second ISP. Our primary one is Prolog. It seems I can access this site just fine with AOL. But not with Prolog, so that's where the problem lies, probably.

I'll make this clear. It is not a problem with my computer. If it was, shouldn't I still be able to get on using the Wii and Clint's computer? Both are unable to connect to the website, leading me to believe it isn't a problem with this single computer at all.

As for the post/account deletion, that is a misunderstanding. There were two support boards they had provided, both with a similar appearance. I had tried to log into the wrong one, which gave the illusion that my account was deleted. It's still there, Malte's account is still there, the posts are all still there. And they haven't been locked or moved.

Anyway I should probably contact Prolog somehow and tell them what's going on. Until that problem is fixed, I can only get on Gang of Five via America Online. Good thing my dad didn't get rid of it yet.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Clawandfang on March 16, 2008, 10:11:58 AM
Well, it's good to have you back at in any case. Hope contacting Prolog goes well, unless someone here can think of something first.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Littlefoot on March 16, 2008, 12:09:52 PM
Quote from: Clawandfang,Mar 16 2008 on  09:11 AM
Well, it's good to have you back at in any case. Hope contacting Prolog goes well, unless someone here can think of something first.
I am very happy to have you here with us now. I was missing you a lot and you know why my crazy girlfriend.  :lol: *Hugs you very tight*
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 16, 2008, 12:11:39 PM
I wish I had brought this issue up with my father earlier. If I had, I would have been able to regain access to this board much quicker. I have contacted Prolog and am awaiting a response from them. Until then I can at least connect using AOL. It's better than having no connection to this site at all.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 16, 2008, 02:31:07 PM
I wonder what the problem is, if they are blocking the boards due to complaints or it's some sort of odd occurrence  thing.  The only other idea I have is maybe if there is some sort of free isp you can use to connect.  But those are often a hassle to use, for various reasons.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 16, 2008, 04:23:54 PM
Could be just technical difficulties. Maybe a fallen powerline?
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 16, 2008, 07:10:56 PM
I'm no expert but the only things I think it could be is maybe some complaint or some other reason that area is blocked, or some connection that connects between the z7 areas on the net the isp.  Not sure if that is possible since if one way was blocked or down wouldn't the net just reroute the traffic to another way like folks detour if one way of getting somewhere in a car is blocked?

Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 16, 2008, 10:39:16 PM
Did you try renewing your IP?  That might help.  It might be invisionfree itself that's not allowing you to connect because of your IP.  Naturally, your IP changed when you switched back to AOL.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 16, 2008, 11:51:20 PM
No I didn't try that.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 17, 2008, 02:51:46 AM
I hope the problem is easily fixed.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Malte279 on March 17, 2008, 08:22:38 AM
Stupid me! :bang
I just discovered that my post was not removed at all. I mixed up two identical looking forums. :bang
There is no response to my post though. It is good to see that there is some way for you to get here Kacie, but we still don't really know what the problem is, do we?
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 17, 2008, 01:36:19 PM
I believe it has to do with Prolog. I haven't gotten a response yet though. Maybe I'll ask dad to call them if the problem persists to where we move.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 17, 2008, 02:56:18 PM
I hope it gets worked out soon.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 17, 2008, 05:27:54 PM
I did get a response, but no real progress yet. They needed me to provide the link to The Gang of Five as well as the other site I'm having problems with, Silver Fang Fanhouse. I'll make a post when I get the next response.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 17, 2008, 05:54:32 PM
It would be funny if one of the workers at Darkhououmon's ISP was an LBT fan and they found this forum through their job. :lol Talk about a post worthy of putting in the thread about how you found the site. :D
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 29, 2008, 12:31:46 PM
My ISP was unable to pinpoint the problem, however the problem has disappeared today. The browsers no longer freeze when I try to access this site, and I no longer have to rely on AOL to get on. I don't know what was causing the problem, but at least it's gone now.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: action9000 on March 29, 2008, 12:36:05 PM
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My ISP was unable to pinpoint the problem, however the problem has disappeared today. The browsers no longer freeze when I try to access this site, and I no longer have to rely on AOL to get on. I don't know what was causing the problem, but at least it's gone now.
Very odd!  Oh well, if it works, it works. :p
Glad to have ya back.
Title: A problem of Darkhououman
Post by: Kor on March 29, 2008, 03:11:24 PM
I"m glad the problem magically went away, like it magically appeared.  Hopefully it'll stay gone.