The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => Land Before Time TV Series (2007) => Topic started by: arrogantrex on February 04, 2008, 05:07:04 PM
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WHAT HAPPENED TO HIP'S FACE!?!
Oh my gosh...
He looks like a flat-toothed crocodile. <_<
I liked everything about it so far...I've been watching it thanks to landbeforetimelover's link...but this saddens me more than spilled ice cream...And that's saying something because I really like ice cream!!!! :cry
Just...just...just...
WHY!?!?!
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Hyp is not the only returning character that changed in appearance. For example, Old One has also changed. Believe she changed in color and I don't think she has that mark on her left eye anymore.
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I know I saw...but it didn't really matter to me because I didn't like her as much as I liked Hyp...
He just doesn't seem as mean and nasty without that more boxy head, and I think it is an injustice to his character for being drawn that way when he was perfectly fine before...
I mean, without Hyp we wouldn't have "Kids Like Us".
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I personally don't see much of a problem here, no offense. Provided I do prefer characters to have the same appearance throughout a franchise. But if they decide to redesign the character, either small changes or bigger ones, that's really the right of the company.
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Yeah...that is true...
He still looks funny though. P:
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I too prefer they would keep a character looking the same, but I can live with some changes as long as they are not huge changes in the way a character looks. I guess part of it comes down to the preference of the animators.
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I was a bit surprised that they did change Hyp's appearance.
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Well think of it this way:
The TV series was an experiment. They didn't want to pay the original artists all that money and they had limited time so they hired artists that weren't as good just so they could get the stories out so fast. Sad but true, however I would have done the same in their place. :p
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You mean the whole TV series was just an experiment? :o
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Of course. They've been making movies forever now and they wanted to see if they could increase their profits by making a TV series.
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Well, I hope that from this 'experiment' they learned what things they should and should not do.
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How are you certain the TV series was an experiment?
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How could it not be? They were trying to see if it would be a success or not. That sounds like an experiment to me.
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How could it not be? They were trying to see if it would be a success or not. That sounds like an experiment to me.
Sounds like it's just your opinion. I thought you had found an official statement or something from Universal where they said it was an experiment.
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It seems like an experiment to me. Any time a long-running franchise deviates from their norm, they're experimenting. THat's just kinda the definition of an experiment.
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If they wanted to experiment with a TV show they could have just done an hour-long TV special using a similar plot.
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Ah, true that. Hmmm. I'll need to think about it, but you do have a point there.
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Yeah, they could have, but that would've made sense. :rolleyes: People rarely do things cuz they make sense, they do it for money. Making a tv series of LBT was a bad idea from the start. I mean, there's only so much you can do in a natural environment. Besides, I doubt CN would have endorsed a tv series with only one episode anyway.
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It would have also made beter sense, say about 10 years ago., when interest in LBt was higher. Say after LBT 5. Have Ali and Chomper as permanebnnt chaerracters create a bad guy that drives bioth Ali and Chomper into the Great Valley, and over the course of the series, the gang and the members of the great Valley have to beat the basd guy. The problem with this series was, there was no story development over the course of the episodes, it was one 'adventure ' to the next, without any real explabnation as to how Chomper and Rubyy got into the Valley nor how they had managed to persuade the residents tio letr them stay, nor any reason about why the bad guy (DarkClaw?) was there..The siongs were not memorable, and they paraded old characters from the older movies in an atempt to placate us older fans, but those characters were not the characters who had so intrigued us, particularkly (for ne at leadt ) Ali. She was a laughable imitation of the longneck girl that figured so prominently in LBT 4, and sparked hours of debate over whether or not she and Littlefoot were related, or whether they were an 'item'. And Rhette was a plot device, nothing more.. that episode was big downer for me..
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Likely it would have been better then. The series has bad points, but it had good points also. Though I do like Ruby it would have made more sense to have Ali as a resident instead of making up a character from scratch, and add in Chomper, those 2 are very popular characters. As for a connected story, some like anime do have that, but some series do not. Some also have a plot that is sort of happening in the back but is resolved, then another will eventually happen, and be resolved over x episodes, but the episode plot may have nothing to do with this. Gargoyles was this type. You can also have a well written series that is just one plot per episode then the next episode is a new unconnected plot, so many options.
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LOL. If they added Ali permanently, there would be no way for them not to develop a relationship between her and Littlefoot. That would be so great. However, her herd is like 50 longnecks. I doubt the valley could support all those longnecks for long. Heck, in LBT 6, Mr. Threehorn was upset that there was one extra longneck for fear of running out of food. :rolleyes: Still, I gotta admit that I would love to have Ali be a permanent member of the gang, certainly over Ruby. -_-
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The entire herd would not need to move there. Ali's mother could just decide to move there till Ali is older, then they can rejoin their farwalker herd, or at least that could be her mother's plan. Maybe they could have a close call with a sharptooth or a herd of sharpteeth that could make her mother make that decision.
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If you ask me, i can't pretend Ali to be a regular travelling companion with original team. She is not very suitable for frequent adventures, and more like home-sitter. And besides, i don't like idea of replacing Ruby. :)
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If you ask me, i can't pretend Ali to be a regular travelling companion with original team. She is not very suitable for frequent adventures, and more like home-sitter. And besides, i don't like idea of replacing Ruby.
I still haven't watched enough of the TV-episodes to have a final opinion of it and I have not watched the particular TV-episode which includes the return of Ali.
Based on LBT 4 this interpretation of Ali is a bit surprising though. One need not like Ali of course, but considering her a "home-sitter" may be kind of unfair. As a member of a migrating herd she may be less of a home-sitter than anyone from the gang.
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Well, i'm picked the words uncorrectly i suppose. I mean, that it looks for me, that Ali would soon be tired from adventuring far from her herd.
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This may be true. Perhaps living with the herd all the time made Ali more ready to submit to rules set by others. At least I have the impression of the Old One, the leader of Ali's herd, having a great degree of influence over all her followers. I don't know how much she would tolerate insubordination or questioning of her rules.
Then again, Ali does make up her mind to go adventuring with Littlefoot very quickly. She mentions her doubts, but is very ready to follow Littlefoot the moment he mentions Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike (which may suggest that some kind of jealousy may have been an important motivation for Ali). We don't know if Ali was in any way punished for leaving the herd on her own accord, but I don't think so (we don't get the slightest hint in that direction). I guess we know just too little about Ali and her circumstances of life to draw many conclusions about her character.
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There are some things about Ali that are unknown, something can be guessed at or inferred from what we do see and know. She's likely not a very stay at home type since she's been wondering and walking all her life.
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I was using the word "home" in the meaning of the "family"/"herd". Living in the Mysterious Beyond, always wondering from one place to another, after your home transformed in some dark and misty place... That could really teach a young longneck not to go far from your kind. It looks like, Ali had no other friends, before she met Littlefoot, so i suppose, she decided to help him without delay because of that.
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Still seems odd that the herd she was in, and Tippy's also, seem to have just the 1 female capable of having children. Though that is another topic, so many females and so few kids.
I don't think Ali's really seen any non longnecks till she got to the great valley. It seems, to me at least, from the bits they have said or showed, that the dinosaurs in the mysterious beyond do not mix much with other dinosaurs that are not of their species. Though I'm not sure if other places like the great valley, those may be the same or they may be more like the great valley, or a mix.
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It seems, to me at least, from the bits they have said or showed, that the dinosaurs in the mysterious beyond do not mix much with other dinosaurs that are not of their species. Though I'm not sure if other places like the great valley, those may be the same or they may be more like the great valley, or a mix.
This is what LBT 4 suggests and to some degree LBT 8 as well (though the Spiketails don't come across as racists their herd consists of spiketails only).
But what about the farwalkers in LBT 7? They seem to be a very mixed lot. It appears that both mixed and not mixed herds exist in the Mysterious Beyond. Perhaps it is a regional matter. In the lands east of the Great Valley (where Littlefoot and the others originally come from) racism seems to be still prevalent and the same goes for the direction Ali is coming from. However, it looks like in other places "just as nice" as the Great Valley racism has been overcome to some degree. It is suggested in LBT 7 that the farwalkers are coming from a colder region, that is from the north if we assume the Great Valley to be located north of the equator or south if the Great Valley is located south of the equator. In any case racism doesn't seem to keep dinosaurs in that region from joining the same herd.
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It could well be certain areas are more racist then other areas, and other areas just as nice may be different depending on where they are. The Great Valley seems to be located roughly in the middle of the racist, non racist areas.
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I think having Ali as a permanent member ogf the team would not be as big a problem as some. She's willing to go wherever littlefoot goes, she has a real connection with him. After ewatching lBT 4 again, its become obvious to me that Ali was created as a 'love interest' for littlefoot. If you ever saw the short promos for LBt 4 on cartoon network when it first came out on TV..it went "Littlefoot's got a girlfriend! Littlefoot and Ali sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G".. etc etc etc.. Its funny how you notice these lirttle things as you get older.
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That is one of the benefits of fan fiction, you can sometimes do things better then those who worked on the product did.
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never been much of a writer of fan fiction though I know several posters here have tried it.. and While you do have a point, I think fans tend to go over stories in far great detail than the writers themselves. We obsess over every detail, and thus may spot things that the writers may have missed or not considered...
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That is one of the benefits of fan fiction, you can sometimes do things better then those who worked on the product did.
The problem is, that it won't be an official story. -_-
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Does it really matter that it is not official, not really since you can consider it an official story to yourself. Just like you can ignore a movie or the tv series and say that movie I ignore. Universal won't have you arrested for that nor send a hit man after you. Most folks can't think for themselves though, though that is another topic.
They could have someone who looks over things and makes sure everything fits and there is no continuity problems nor deviates from established canon, though few folks bother with that, focusing only on the current movie, or issue, tv episode. Though if they do bother it does lead to a better higher quality product.
Have you tried writing fan fiction? Perhaps you would be better at it then you think.
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"Littlefoot's got a girlfriend! Littlefoot and Ali sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G"
Huh, did they make up scenes for a commercial that didn't appear in the movie? :huh:
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No, the promo simpy used small clips from the film, pics of Littlefoot and Ali together, nothing new was created for the promo, they simply used clips from the film..
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There wasn't any scene such as the one you described in LBT 4 though.
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I know there wasn't any scene like that. its what American kids like to say to each other if a boy likes a girl "(Boy and (girl) sitting in a tee K-I_S-S_i-N_G. First comes love, then comes marriage, here's comes (girl) with the baby carriage"
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Things has changed over the years including the staff of the LBT Productions. And this is what usually happen in a Series their appearances are totally different from the Movies.
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Not to surprising the staff has changed from the 2nd lbt movie through the 13th. That is quite a bit of time.
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not to mention the voice actors. Littlefoot's personality seems to go through some changes each time (in the first movie, he was much more aggressive, like when he started running to force Petrie to fly off his nose, or when he attacked Cera)
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I'd forgotten about that till you mentioned it. It is true.