Coming to DVD

Threehorn · **on:** July 19, 2007, 12:37:17 PM

Hi everyone I found this out yesturday and it seems that stores be selling a DVD with four episodes.

DVD called: Land Before Time: The Amazing Adventures

How cool is that! I knew they'd be bring it out. I might be able to get myself it before I leave the USA.

I thought I spring this news out to you all

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2007, 12:51:05 PM

Wow. That's the lamest LBT cover I've ever seen. I still can't wait for it to come out though.

Threehorn · **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:01:16 PM

Lame? I really like the cover it unqiue and different to those I seen, I don't have a problem with it but that how I see it, but others see it differently, and still I look forward to getting the DVD

DarkHououmon · **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:07:27 PM

Yeah, I like how the cover looks. How is it possibly lame?

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:16:59 PM

Those just don't look like the characters I know and love. Almost like a babied up version of the land before time. Seriously, it looks like someone spent 5 minutes drawing it.

Threehorn · **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:24:45 PM

That no where near 5 minutes... The cover looks great. I like it so that what I am sticking to.

But also think about it, the picture is of them looking down a hole, that takes some doing to get it like that. I have problems with frontly drawing half the time, it very tricky. Trust me on that, I tried and took me almost 3 hours of rubbing out and re-drawing to get a drawing just right even it still looks kind of strange looking for a frontly drawing.

In the end I think this cover was done pretty well

DarkHououmon · **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:42:30 PM

Don't forget, Land Before Time is meant for little children, so of course they are "babied up".

And just from looking at that, you'd know that didn't take five minutes to draw. For instance, such an angle is hard. It isn't like a profile or sideview. Such an angle takes practice, and takes more time than a profile or sideview, if I remember correctly.

Also the coloring itself would have taken many hours, perhaps even days, to do.

If I had to judge, I'd say that cover was sketched, inked, and colored in..altogether 3 days or so. But maybe I'm just exaggerating.

But yeah I agree with Threehorn. It's impossible to create a cover like that, with such a difficult angle, in only 5 minutes.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:44:02 PM

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I tried and took me almost 3 hours of rubbing out and re-drawing to get a drawing just right even it still looks kind of strange looking for a frontly drawing.

Ya gotta remember that they have a $400,000 computer and porgrams you wouldn't even beleive. No crap it would be really hard to do by hand, but it really isn't as hard as ya think when ya got all the advanced tools and up to date technology.

Heh. You think photoshop is great? Times that by a billion and that's what they got at their desposal.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:50:23 PM

Even with the most advanced technology, it would still take so much longer than 5 minutes to make that cover, landbeforetimelover. They still have to draw it, by mouse, by tablet, or by pencil. They still gotta color it, using layers and such, and that does still take time.

Such a cover is impossible to produce in just a few minutes, no matter how advanced the technology is.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #9 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:55:24 PM

if it really was that hard to make one frame, there's no way that they could get a tv ep done in a week. In 1 tv ep, there's 64,386 frames, which translates into that many pictures they gotta make. There's only what, 2 artists in the LBT sequals? I'm sure there's the same amount of atrists in the tv series. That's why they rush them and they don't turn out so good. but still, there's no way that they would take 3 days to make a frame. that'd be about 190,000 days which translates into about 521 years to make a tv ep.

Threehorn · **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:57:11 PM

I have to agree with you there. it takes my sister over a hour even more to draw her free hand drawings on Flash alone. And they turn out mind blowingly good.

THis cover I think it cool still. no matter how long it took.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #11 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:59:29 PM

You are forgetting that the box is not a frame, plus it has shadows and lighting effects, of which make it take a longer time. For an animation frame, with the characters, there is no shading or lighting effects put on them, therefore don't take as long to color.

I'm referring to just the characters, not the background, btw.

Not to mention they have a lot of people working on the animation itself. With so much help, of course they are able to accomplish an episode in about a week or so. If it was just one person, yeah it would be impossible. But we're talking about many animators, who knows how many they have working on the LBT episodes. And just about as many working on coloring. The whole thing is a collaboration.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:02:37 PM

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You are forgetting that the box is not a frame, plus it has shadows and lighting effects, of which make it take a longer time. For an animation frame, with the characters, there is no shading or lighting effects put on them, therefore don't take as long to color.

Not to mention they have a lot of people working on the animation itself. With so much help, of course they are able to accomplish an episode in about a week or so. If it was just one person, yeah it would be impossible. But we're talking about many animators, who knows how many they have working on the LBT episodes. And just about as many working on coloring. The whole thing is a collaboration.

If there's no shading in the other pics, they wouldn't look right. I assure you that this cover took no more work than a single frame. The idea for the cover probably took a long time to come up with though. I think the LBT sequals had only 2 artists. There would have to be hundreds of thousands of animators to make one of these in a week if it acutally took 3 days to make 1 shot.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:06:57 PM

You don't call this character shading?

DarkHououmon · **Reply #14 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:10:10 PM

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If there's no shading in the other pics, they wouldn't look right. I assure you that this cover took no more work than a single frame. The idea for the cover probably took a long time to come up with though. I think the LBT sequals had only 2 artists. There would have to be hundreds of thousands of animators to make one of these in a week if it acutally took 3 days to make 1 shot.

Yes it would have taken some time to come up with the cover, but in no way would it take 5 minutes to complete it.

So why do you think it would have taken thousands of animators? I don't think it would have taken nowhere near that many.

2 artists? I disagree. A studio hires a lot more than just 2 artists.

However, I still say there is no way that cover could have taken 5 minutes. It's just impossible. If it took 5 minutes, it would look very sloppy, no coloring in the lines, very bad shadowing, if any at all, and just be a complete mess. No, this cover definitely took much longer to make.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #15 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:12:23 PM

You sure that's from a LBT episode? That looks like from the movies.

And anyway I was speaking from the episodes I recall seeing which had no shading that I could really notice. Now could they have shaded the series and still be released in time? Yes, I do not doubt that.

I spoke with a friend of mine and it appears I had gotten the time wrong. An episode takes about 6 weeks, not just 2 weeks. So I hope that makes more sense.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #16 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:15:36 PM

according to my calculations, if 5 minutes was spent on every frame, it would take 234 days to make a tv ep. This is irrational. They obviously have some sort of advanced technology beyond our comprehension.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #17 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:19:08 PM

It definitely doesn't take that long to make one episode.

I've seen behind the scenes of many animated movies, and seen many of the technologies they use to produce a movie.

But even with the most advanced technology, a cover would take longer than 5 minutes to produce. I know what I'm talking about.

If you really think it only took 5 minutes to make the cover, why don't you try reproducing it yourself? Try drawing it and coloring it yourself.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:22:47 PM

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Then you got your calculations wrong. It definitely doesn't take almost a year to produce an episode

My calculations are 100% accurate. I would take this long if all the frames were done by hand. there must be a program that'll manipulate already drawn images in a snap or something.

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If you really think it only took 5 minutes to make the cover, why don't you try reproducing it yourself? Try drawing it and coloring it yourself.

well, one, I'm not good at coming up with original ideas and 2, I don't have their advanced technology. I mean honestly guys, do you think that Universal, a billion dollar company is using standard technology you can pick up at your local walmart?

DarkHououmon · **Reply #19 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:25:42 PM

I can tell you right now, even with their most advanced technology, a cover like that would not take five minutes. The sketching, the drawing, the inking..impossible in five minutes, no matter what program they are using. It's not like they have a program that automatically inks and automatically colors, in just a minute or so. It would take much longer.