Ow! Who placed a tack on the floor?!

Oh no, Hidden Runner is gonna eat us!  I can't look!

Cera: Well, this bites!

Chomper: Yuck! Threehorn meat is way too fatty for my liking.    

Here's one directly from V (via either Ducky or Petrie, cannot remember.)  

"I don't want to eat Cera.  She's too tough!"

Even if the Gang thought that Chomper was trying to hunt them in the fifth movie, Littlefoot probably realized that Chomper stopped because he recognized the gang. Chomper wouldn't kill his friends, but he was okay with killing them before he knew.

Littlefoot wanting to kill Chomper after that is probably going too far, but I wonder if Littlefoot ever had the realization, that Chomper would kill leaf eaters he didn't know for food? It might be niavity on his part, but he must have thought about it at some point. He never asked Chomper this? I wonder if Littlefoot would still want to be friends with Chomper if he figured that out? If my writing, I'd have Littlefoot comes to terms with that, and still want to be friends with Chomper, after that got out, but in the 5th movie, he's known Chomper a lot less. He wouldn't be as close of friends as they are in my fics, so don't know how that would work, exactly.

about the staged startooth attackin the brave sharptooth test, it was mostly the rest of the gang that was messing up on their part. My bigger question with that episode is what if Rhett actually stayed to face Chomper? Would the whole thing be called off then? Would Chomper have actually tried to hurt Rhett, maybe out of being in the moment, and forgetting that this was just staged, or maybe just wanting to hurt Rhett because he'd been taking advantage of Littlefoot's friend, Ali??

Chomper would have had to have been braindead to attempt an attack in the Great Valley with so many witnesses and in broad daylight!    

Also, I'm sure if he tried, Ruby would be oh so-not understanding and wouldn't want to help him anymore.  

Also, I think he was kidding when he said "I wonder if Rhett tastes good."

Quote from: LittlefootAndAliTogether,Dec 22 2014 on  07:40 PM

What about those velociraptors that got washed INTO the Great Valley at the of the third movie?

Actually, they weren't washed into the valley at all.

Considering that the water here fed the waterfall of the valley, if the raptors had been washed in, they would have appeared at the watering hole of the valley. Instead, however, they got out of the water well before this, still in the Mysterious Beyond.



This isn't the valley. This is the Mysterious Beyond. On the other side later in the same scene, you see Littlefoot and his grandparents. And later on, you see them return into the valley, showing that this does indeed happen in the Mysterious Beyond.

I had wondered this too.  Thanks for clarifying it.

However, what about Secret of Suarus Rock?   The Meanest Ever Sharptooth got in in the past and there were two in the present time there in the movie too.  The funny thing is, unlike II and The Hidden Canyon, nobody bathers to give a Threehorn's toot how they got in.   Also, see the Belly Draggers in "the Amazing Threehorn Girl".  The Great Wall isn't a complete barrier to Sharptteth.  )(Nor, for that matter, would it be useful against Ichy or the type that tried to eat Ducky in V.  It didn't keep out Pterano who wasn't supposed to be there (Rinkus and Sierra were probably unknown to the Great Valley residents, as one would think they DEFINITELY wouldn't be allowed in, given their evil nature.)  

(Hmmmm, as Ichy could fly over and Belly Draggers seem to be able to get in somehow, Dil and Ichy could sneak into the Great Valley one night for a little revenge on the Gang of Five.)

What about those velociraptors that got washed INTO the Great Valley at the of the third movie?  Did they get abducted by Rainbow Face aliens or are they still hiding in the Great Valley, perhaps near Saurus Rock, where, despite the Great Valley being practically Sharptooth proof, two are seen in the Great Valley, and nobody looks for a broken wall anywhere like in II or The Hidden Canyon.  

However, one also wonders what keeps the population in the Great Valley under control if Sharpteeth presence is practically zero and there seems, barring widlfires or swarm leaf gobblers or big freezes, to be endless food pretty much, why they don't get overcrowded.

I do have some theories of what could keep the population down.

1.)  Flying Sharpteeth could still fly over the Great Wall and make off with young kids and stuff.

2.)  There is the sinking sand, which is lethal.

3.)  One could drown in rivers if young enough.

4.)  Egg Stealers.  

5.)  Perhaps they leave when the food supply doesn't seem big enough for all, as was seen when Tippy's herd left during VIII.

6.)  The dinsoaurs have fewer children (though I have trouble believing this as the reason as Ducky and Petrie's families look quite big.)  

7.)  Not many of them live there their whole lives (Thicknose seems to be the only one that said he lived there his whole life (except, presumably, he left during V, yeah, that continuity thing again.)  

^The subtitles are not in Sharptooth, but a Leafeater (English) translation. And translations need not be, and sometimes cannot be, literal.

Ummm, I don't know about that.  Leaf Eaters actually almost seem to have a language of their own, as can be seen in "Through the Eyes of a Spike Tail".  It is only there that we hear it in a non-human linguistic.

" They no let Pterano be in TV show!"

"I cannot believe that young Sharptooth we hatched eat Littlefoot!  He was so young!"  Petrie, Land Before Time II: Great Valley Adventure, upon finding a missing Chomper and Littlefoot.  

Another one, pretty hilarious one:  "Mama actually punish me for breaking the rules!  She never do that before!  No fair!  Me often go wandering during middle of night and come back in early morning and get little sleep and me never get punished before!"

"Me cannot believe that me stupid enough to sniff stinky plants on Mysterious Island.  Their smell really make me eyes water!"

"No narrator, Littlefoot and Ali supposed to get married and have big family, not have her leave.  Bring her back!  Bring her back!  NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"  Petrie at the end of the fourth movie

"Loofah and Doofah are driving me nuts!  Me cannot take them anymore!  Arrrgggh!  Ahhhhh!"  - Petrie losing it in Wisdom of Friends  (which I liked by the way, but heard that many didn't)

"First Chomper bite Cera, then he bite me wing!  This really hurt!"  -Petrie in movie II.

"Me laugh me head off at stupid egg stealers!  They could have gone around bend but they jump instead and fell and get really hurt.  They dumber than bunch of rocks!  Me laugh so hard that me cry!"  - Petrie, movie II

"We bring in Sharptooth egg and Cera got bitten in tail!  Then we get chased by evil egg stealers and barely escape liquid fire!  How could this day get any worse?"  (Chomper's parents come into view.)  "Life no fair!"  (Starts bawling)  - Petrie, movie II

"Why don't me have a girlfriend?  Littlefoot have Ali!  Why me get no one?"  - Petrie


"Me can't believe they banish Pterano for five long cold times!  That too harsh!"  -Petrie, movie VII

"Me cannot believe they make me fly across Big Water!  Me really scared!"  - Petrie, movie V

And, here's a classic one:

Ducky: Poor, poor Petrie.  Poor poor Petrie!
Petrie: (Flying next to her)  Yeah, me no believe that me get killed by Sharptooth either!  (Bawls)

-Petrie, first movie

"No, mean Sharptooth!  Don't eat Petrie!  You can eat Cera, but no eat Petrie!  Please!"  - Petrie, crying as the Sharptooth, who turns out to be Chomper, corners them.  

"Me just realized, they forgot to put me dad in movies!  Me so unhappy!"

"Me waited long time to see Ali come back yet she only talk for about a few minutes!  That's not fair!" - Petrie, TV Series

Bizarre one:

"Ech!  Me wish Ruby would stop kissing me!  Me not her boyfriend!"  - Petrie, TV Series

"Cera poked me in tush with her horn!  That really hurt!"

"Spike have club tail breath again!  Ugggghhh!"

"Wow, we finally get Chomper to eat plants.  He eat hard sweets.  We did it!  We did it!  Me so happy that me cry!"  - Petrie, near end of "Through the Eyes of a Spiketail"

Note: This is kind of a joke, but, consider how accurate the alternate reality Sharptooth would have created would be and see that even the most tragic event, so far, in Littlefoot's life DID bring out a lot of good things and kept a lot of bad things from happening.  (I love Yellow Bellies, but, for those who HATE them, you're gonna really like this.)  


Sharptooth was roaming around the Mysterious Beyond.  He spotted a young threehorn and a young longneck.  "A late night snack!" he said to himself greedily, licking his lips.

However, overhead, a glowing blue stone fell through the sky, averting his attention.  He went toward it.  He soon realized it was something special.  It held power.....

He demanded to know what it did.  He said he wanted to defeat the Great Valley, a leaf eater stronghold.  

A voice from the stone told him that he must not kill the mother.  He didn't know what that meant.  He asked.  The voice was cryptic, as ever, and stated that if he killed the mother, at least now, he would meet a watery grave.  Sharptooth was taken aback.  He the feared Sharptooth, drowned?!  How could this be so?

He demanded a way to stop this.   The voice from the stone said he must let the "one who could stop him" be destroyed.  Sharptooth vowed to do this danger in himself.  However, miraculously, the stone said that he wouldn't have to, someone others would but that he must be near to witness it.  He would find his enemy near a Misty Land in a cave in four cold times from then.  He must be there to watch his enemy's end.  He agreed, gleefully.

He still, however, didn't know how he'd beat the invincible Great Valley.  The stone replied that he must find a young pink one.  He was told that he'd find him, along with a tall one.  They would both be Sharpteeth and he would find them in five cold times near a near island that would, with the power of the stone that would be given him, have a land path revealed for him to cross then.

He still wanted to know more.  He was told to find the evil flyers, that would go by the names of Rinkus and Sierra with another flyer that he would make evil and stay evil, one named Pterano.  He would also find the siblings of some flyer named Petrie, that would go evil because of the thing he was about to alter.  He was also told to find a belly dragger and a sharpbeak, who would help him get rid of his mysterious "great enemy".   Also, he was told to find the one with the red claw, who would be another Sharptooth.  After 12 cold times, he would come with his group and the Great Valley would fall before him.

Sharptooth left the stone, grinning evilly.  He saw the three horn and the young longeck.  He licked his lips.  Food time!

He ran toward them.  They panicked and ran.   "Mama help!" Littlefoot yelled.  Sharptooth chased them into thorn, at one point injuring his eye.  They came out of the vines, and he came out behind them, determined to pay them back.  

Then, he saw her.  The big mother.  That was what she must be.  Sharptooth realized this was the life that he must not, at least not for many cold times, take.  If he did, he was told his life would end soon.

He dodged her, not daring to so much as scratch her.  He went for Cera.  However, then....it happened.  The ground rumbled.  He turned and ran.  The others did too.  Cera, however, was separated from Littlefoot and his mother.  Littlefoot and Cera would never , at least in life, meet again!

Sharptooth came to the stone of cold fire.  The earth was moving.  He got it to heal his eye.  Knowing he had to scamper fast, he asked it for another power.  It gave him the ability to speak leaf eater.  The stone then fell into the Dark Underground and was ruined.  However, he still had his chance and now had a new power.

He used it gleefully, using it to lure leaf eaters to their doom.  Meanwhile, Littlefoot and his mother would continue on toward the Great Valley.

Meanwhile, Cera met a young swimmer named Ducky.  She met a young flyer named Petrie later.  Sometime later, she met a spike tail, who just hatched, named Spike.  They wandered on, trusting Cera.

They came to the Mountains that Burn.  Petrie fell off Cera's back when she panicked.  Petrie fell into tar, where he met his end.

Spike and Ducky, meanwhile, fell into lava, also meeting their ends.  Cera kept going, until she was cornered by Domehead.  She let out a final scream as she was attacked.  Cera was no more!

Meanwhile, a flyer named Pterano led a herd that had agreed to follow him.  The herd was ambushed by Albino Sharpteeth and Pterano was the only survivor.  The other dinosaurs were furious that Pterano wouldn't admit he was wrong and they banished him for life from the Great Valley.  Pterano, who no longer had a nephew, would never ever bother to return to the Great Valley.  Instead, he would associate with Rinkus and Sierra, two evil flyers, in time becoming as bad as they.

Littlefoot and his mother reached the Great Valley.  They reunited with Grandma and Grandpa Longneck.  However, there was no happy reunion with Topps, Mama and Papa Swimmer, and Mama Flyer and their kids.  

Weeks would go by.  Tragedy would strike again.  Two egg stealers, by the names of Ozzy and Strut, would be having an egg-stravaganza, stealing eggs from many nests, and always getting away with it.  Mama and Papa Swimmer's nest was one of those hit.  

Meanwhile, in the Mysterious Beyond, the following day, an egg of a Sharptooth would hatch.  His name would have been Chomper, but, as he never met Littlefoot, it instead became "Hard Biter".
He would become a regular Sharptooth.

A cold time later or so, a drought would strike the Great Valley.  Littlefoot was annoyed that Hyp, Nodd, and Mutt kept bothering him.  Eventually, he found water and went to tell the grownups.  However, a fire broke out before they could do much.  They left the Great Valley.  

Hyp, Nodd, and Mutt greedily went looking for water.  They found water, but also tar.  Littlefoot, Nodd, and Mutt tried to get Hyp from the tar, but, with just the three of them, they couldn't and Hyp lost his life.

They didn't have time to mourn Hyp's loss long though.  Soon, Fast Biters came.  Littlefoot, Nod, and Mutt decided to try and push rocks at the Fast Biters.  They watched as Hyp's father lost his life below while they struggled to move the rocks.  At last, they got one to to move, but not before some Fast Biters grabbed Nodd and Mutt, taking them with them as they went down.  Littlefoot could only watch helplessly as they were mauled to death.  Water came, pushing the bad guys away.  The Great Valley eventually grew back, but the Time of Great Giving had a somber mood.

At last, the fourth cold time arrived.  Littlefoot met his third cousin Ali.  Mama Longneck was worried.  Her father had fallen gravely ill.  The Old One said he would die unless he got a Night Flower.

Littlefoot and Ali snuck off to the Land of Mists.  Meanwhile, Sharptooth, having heard of the Land of Mists, had a very important date, and stood outside the cave.  He eventually went into it, hiding in a chamber.  It was imperative that he not kill this "greatest danger" himself.

Eventually, an earthshake occurred as Littlefoot and Ali were in the cave, causing a rockslide.  Sometime later, Sharptooth watched as Dil and Ichy ate Littlefoot and Archie.  Now Sharptooth got it.  Eventually, Ali broke through and was attacked by Dil and Ichy.  However, though she was injured, she was still alive when Sharptooth came in and told them to back of.  She was going to thank him, but he turned to Dil and Ichy, told them to meet him near the Great Valley at the appointed time of his victory.  He then ate Ali.  

Mama Longneck watched as her father died of his disease.  She also knew, from Littlefoot and Ali's lack of returning, that they had met a bad end in the Land of Mists.  She had lost three relatives that day.  She wished, almost, and not for the last time, that she had died years ago, killed by that Sharptooth in the Mysterious Beyond.

Unfortunately, things would only get worse.  

[To Be updated later]

What is REALLY ironic is that, if his not dead mother in the Alternate Universe timeline above didn't leave after her son and father died, then she would have left with her mother in V when the leaf gobblers came and Topp's decision would have ruled the day (no kids to run away or Grandpa Longneck to challenge the decision)  and they well could have starved to death due to lack of food in V, or, come across something nasty.  In short, she might have died anyway .  

Also, for that matter, Ali mighta not heard Littlefoot and Archie die or thought they might have just ran, eventually broken through the rocks, met Dil and Ichy and come to a bad end (might as well axe Ali is Littelfoot is no longer around for her to marry.    )  Then Dil and Ichy would say "You know, maybe this partnership does pay off after all."  and we'd get some very dark and sick humor.

Still, to think that to bring the Great Valley and loads of inhabitants inside and out to ruin, all Sharptooth had to do was not kill Mama Longneck.  Who would have thought?        

Sharptooth: Yes, please, I LOVE that idea!  ROAR!  I like the one where I live and all the others don't!  PLEASE!  PLEASE!  PLEASE!                      :!  :!  :!  :!  :!