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General Land Before Time / If you could change one thing in LBT
« on: December 22, 2014, 02:18:52 AM »
Quote from: thelonedinosaur27,Dec 21 2014 on  07:57 PM
LittlefootAndAliTogether...I'm speechless.  That timeline is brutal.  Makes sense if you think about it though.  However, I don't buy 4 coming before 3.  3 came out first and 4 is a sequel, not a prequel.
Well, some theorize that 4 came before 3 as Grandma Longneck says the Valley hadn't changed that much, but, well, there was that wildfire in 3.

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Land Before Time TV Series (2007) / are you happy with the TV series?
« on: December 22, 2014, 02:12:45 AM »
Quote from: jansenov,Dec 21 2014 on  07:32 PM
About Chomper's name, it's quite simple. He has one name in one language, and another in the other. He'd allow the leafeaters call him Chomper simply because it is much easier for them than pronouncing his sharptooth name (considering how alien the sharptooth language sounds to the leafeaters, these two languages must be radically different from each other). This is common with humans, for example Chinese and Jews when moving abroad will often adopt a local name to fit in more easily, but continue using the old names in their respective communities. Before the modern age,  when converting to Christinaity or Islam, people would adopt new names for official purposes and continue using their old names in everyday life. The same thing was when people received Roman citizenship.
Negative as to that.  His parents called him "Chomper" in Sharptooth if you read the closed captions in V.

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General Land Before Time / Things in LBT you've always wondered about.
« on: December 22, 2014, 02:11:01 AM »
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Dec 22 2014 on  12:51 AM
1. The narrator said "all that remained of his herd", not "last of his kind". "All that remained" simply means that only a few members were left of an initially large herd. While most of them could have been killed, some could have simply left, such as Bron. So the narrator wasn't contradicting himself with that. Also, the movie was made back in the 80s, and I doubt that they had any plans for a father for Littlefoot at the time.

6. Considering Chomper was hunting Littlefoot and the others before realizing who they were, I'd say yes, he was eating leafeaters.

7. Littlefoot actually had his grandparents, whereas Shorty had no one. But even if they did have the same problem (with Littlefoot also having nobody), that doesn't mean that they'd develop the same problems. Everyone is different. Not everyone comes out of the same experience exactly the same.

13. I don't think dinosaurs get married. They're dinosaurs. They have mates, yes. But I do not think the dinosaurs have a concept of 'marriage'.
Considering that they were sleeping and he could easily have attacked earlier and wiped them out, particularly while Littlefoot was waking the others, I'm guessing he wasn't hunting them.  Also, considering that there wasn't any WTH were you trying to do to us from Littlefoot & Co. , I'm assuming that it was nothing more than the shadow thingy like in the second movie.  Also, let's face it, if what you said was true, even Littlefoot would have had misgivings of Chomper.

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General Land Before Time / Things in LBT you've always wondered about.
« on: December 22, 2014, 02:08:39 AM »
As for get married, in the fourth movie, the words "husband and wife" were used in a song, so I'm going to guess that they actually do.

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General Land Before Time / Things in LBT you've always wondered about.
« on: December 22, 2014, 01:35:25 AM »
1.) Despite the fact that Bron was still alive, the narrator says that Littlefoot, his mother, and his grandparents were the last of his herd.

2.)  How things went when Littlefoot told the Great Valley about Chomper coming.

3.)  Why the narrator in II says that there are two types of dinosaurs: Those that eat leaves and those that eat meat (other dinosuars).  However, in that very same movie, there is Ozzy, who eats EGGS.  

3.) If Topsy is Cera's father's real name.

4.)  If Guido was orphaned at a very young age and cannot recall his parents or family and hence thinks he's one of a kind.  (I think he still is, but I think there are other Microraptors out there.  He just hasn't found them yet.)

5.)  Is Guido a Sharptooth flyer?  He eats bugs like Chomper.  

6.)  Has Chomper been eating leaf eaters between II and V?  I'm wondering, his parents didn't seem to question him when he said that he had longneck for breakfast.  One would think if he'd only eaten dragon flies and whatnot, they'd have found his comment of eating longneck to be phony (or one almost wold surmise that anyway.)  One also wonders, if, like Littlefoot's Grandparents kept giving him food till he ate it, Chomper's parents kept giving him meat, till finally he said "Well, they're already dead and I didn't knock them off myself, so, might as well."  

7.)  Why Shorty, even if he was orphaned, why he has such a tude problem and is kind of a bully.  On the flip side, Littlefoot thought he was orphaned for years, only to find out he still had a father, yet, in all those years, he doesn't have a tude problem.  

8.)  Do Sharpteeth suffer from herd segregation too?  Other than Dil and Ichy, who got along oh so not well, we've never seen, say, Tyranosaurus and Belly Draggers working together or any type working together.  In fact, as far as I can tell, other than VI, where it appears to be not a partnership but just chance, we only see Sharpteeth of two different types working together one other time, a very notable occurance: Red Claw (Tyranosaurs) and Screech and Thud (Fast Biters).   I doubt any other time they ever work together well.  One almost thinks that Red Claw figured out a way to get Sharpteeth to work with other Sharpteeth herds (at least, Sharpteeth loyal to HIM anyway).   That would make huge sense as to the plot of the TV Series, as if neither Sharpteeth nor Leaf Eaters in the Mysterious Beyond would work outside of their own herd, that would give Red Claw, who might have managed such a feat, perhaps through brute force and intimidation, though perhaps he has brains too and has worked out a thug network somehow, perhaps stealing food from other Sharpteeth to pay them off.  Anyway, the one place that has been well documented to have herds working together would be, you guessed it, the Great Valley, which is pretty much why Ruby and Chomper stated they had gone there.  It wasn't so much to hide from Red Claw for the rest of their lives there, but to try and observe the Great Valley dinosaurs and how they work together and then teach dinosaurs in the Mysterious Beyond those lessons so that they could work together and overthrow Red Claw and his goons.  

9.)  Why didn't Ali, who had encountered Sharpteeth like Dil and Ichy, and who knows what else in the Land of Mists, have a least a grain of doubt when hearing Rhett's whoppers?   Also, have Ali and Littlefoot grown further apart since IV as she seems kinda snobby to him in the TV series?  
Perhaps Rhett was her sole companion of her age and she kinda grew close to him.  On the other hand, if Littlefoot and Ali WERE meant to be a couple in the future, does this mean a love triangle between Littlefoot, Ali, and Rhett is looming?  

10.) If Hyp was a teenager in III, is he an adult by the time of the TV series or still a teenager?

11.) Does anyone know at what age Littlefoot would come of age (i.e. dinosaurs probably didn't have the same lifespan as us and some may well have had a longer lifespan than us.) ?  That might be an important factor in determining how many movies to make before he becomes an adult.  

 :unsure:

12.) Has anyone else noticed that Typpy in the TV series and Lizzie in XI sound like Suzy Carmichael from Rugrats?  


13.)  Has anyone ever thought how Littlefoot would get married, barring Ali's return or another longneck herd coming to the Great Valley?  Despite what his mother promised him, there don't seem to be any other longnecks (that aren't his grandparents and aren't Littlefoot himself) that reside in the Great Valley.  (Maybe they are hiding and will come out in future movies, but still, one woulda thought they'd have shown by now.  True, I think we might have seen another longneck in V with them, but, heck, she was full grown too.)  I know one longneck went back to the Great Valley with Grandma and Grandpa at the end of X, but still, that won't help Littlefoot find Mrs. Right.  

14.) On the same subject as 13, Spike would have the same problem, being the only spiketaill in the Great Valley.   Petrie, Ducky, and Spike seem to have other of their kind, or probably do, but Littlefoot and Spike don't seem to.

15.) Are Littlefoot and Ali first cousins or third cousins?  

16.) Are Chomper's parents and Red Claw open to canniablism?  If one notices, their comment about eating any friends of Chomper's as dessert in V doesn't seem to indicate what type the friends are.  Not only could they be fellow Sharpteeth, they could be fellow Tyranosaurses.  Also, it seems, maybe I heard wrong, that Red Claw wants to eat Chomper in the TV Series.  (So do Screech and Thud, so maybe Sharpteeth eat each other too.  Maybe the leaf eaters should use that to their advantage.  




 :idea    )

17.)  How Chomper kept his name that Littlefoot gave him and his parents didn't change it or wonder where he got it from?  

18.) Where Mo learned to speak Leaf Eater?

19.)  Why Fast Biters are called Fast Biters?   (I can see where they got Fast Runner as they run fast.  Most leaf eaters run (or DIE) when Fast Biters start biting so one would think they wouldn't have much time to measure the speed of their biting versus that  of other carnivores.)  


20.) Why Chomper, having seen his parents chase Littlefoot near that log in II, would think they'd  suddenly be nice to Littlefoot for no reason in V.  Has he ever seen her parents kill something (perhaps Ozzy or Strut too, we don't know on that) or has he always covered his eyes or been off chasing dragon flies at the time?  

21.) At what point did Chomper stop trying to eat dragon flies and decide to eat bees instead?

22.)  Why didn't Ozzy and Strut just turn around that corner instead of leaping off the cliff.  If that HHAD been a grown dangerous Sharptooth, he'd have had his fill with the kids and Ozzy and Strut could have stayed out of sight and watched them die, something one would think, given Ozzy's personality, he'd probably get a kick out of?

23.)  Why Chomper didn't say "Hey guys, it's me Chomper.  Hello."  when encountering them, but just stood there, opening and closing his mouth, casting that creepy shadow, and letting the kids run and only speaking to them when they were trapped against the wall, cowering and expecting to die at any moment?  Was that his idea of a practical joke?

24.)  Did Cera outgrow her foolhardiness around villains that she had in I, II, and IV?  (She was ramming Sharptooth in the first movie, idiotically told Ozzy and Strut that Chomper was a baby in II, and went "Heee!" when Dil and Ichy were fighting each other and they would have gotten away otherwise if she hadn't opened her mouth in IV.)  

25.) Was Littlefoot ever offended when he found out he had been named after his father's childhood nickname?

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General Land Before Time / What would you like to see in future releases?
« on: December 21, 2014, 02:10:18 PM »
Doc and the Old One are older than the grandparents.  Also, Hidden Runner might be too.  Topps and the Grandparents, I'd wager, are close to the same age.

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Land Before Time TV Series (2007) / are you happy with the TV series?
« on: December 21, 2014, 10:19:06 AM »
Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon (again),Dec 21 2014 on  02:59 AM
Quote from: Malte279,Dec 19 2014 on  09:17 PM
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What is even more shocking is that Chomper never even mentions what type his friends are (they could be fellow Sharpteeth for all they knew), yet they still said they wanted them to be dessert. I was actually most shocked at that reply of Chomper's parents and wonder why they didn't try and eat Ruby.
Excellent observation! :yes
I don't think anyone has ever pointed out that one, but indeed that is remarkeable.
Dang! I was literally this close to being the first one!  Just... dang!  :neutral

I'm sorry, it's just I had honestly thought that up just a few days before LittlefootAndAliTogether did and knowing I could have been the first one... :neutral

LittlefootAndAliTogether, you must be a mindreader.
Well, there is also the fact that Chomper keeps the name that Littlefoot gave him, despite the fact that his parents probably didn't know about Littlefoot.  On the other hand, if Chomper could remember that on his own, despite being so young, he's gotta be one of the smartest characters in the series.  Also, you'd think his parents would have given him a different name.)

Also, there is the fact that Chomper's parents seem to actually be fighting each other in Great Valley Adventure after one, wanting to bite Ducky, who was on the nose of the other, missed and bit the other, and they seemed to be fighting, until they noticed the leaf eaters, after which, they went after them instead.

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General Land Before Time / What would you like to see in future releases?
« on: December 21, 2014, 03:49:59 AM »
I just thought of something, based on a song Topps sang in the third movie.  Topps almost seems to hint that HIS father is still around (though, if one reads between the lines, the two also haven't talked in a while as he uses the word "may".   Topps's father still being alive gives greater credence to the fact that Grandma and Grandpa Longneck will live to see Littlefoot to adulthood, as Topps may have had a grown child by the time we saw III which would mean that Grandpa Threehorn had a grown grandchild.)

Anyway, I just had another brainwave of what I'd like to see in future releases.  Topp's father would come around and he'd be a jerk.  Perhaps Topps and Cera would see what he is like, and start to rethink their way of treating other dinsoaurs.  Perhaps Grandpa Threehorn will reform when one of the other types (Possibly Grandpa or Grandma Longneck as Topps seems to have it in for Longnecks especially) and he'll change and all three generatins of three-horns will be more tolerant.

On the other hand, perhaps Grandpa Topps would continue to be bigoted and would lose his life near the end of the film and Topps would realize that he doesn't want to end up like his father and would change his ways and instruct Cera to do the same.  






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Character Discussion / Top 10 LBT villians
« on: December 21, 2014, 03:17:17 AM »
Also, are Shorty and Rhett allowed to be on this list?

Shorty was really rude to Littlefoot and Rhett was stuck up and a nasty liar.   Shorty still seems agressive even in the TV series.  


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Character Discussion / Top 10 LBT villians
« on: December 21, 2014, 03:13:50 AM »
Personally, I think this list is more accurate, and here's why.

1.)  Sharptooth (that's a no brainer.  He killed Littlefoot's mother and tried to knock off the Gang of Five a few times.   He even tried to take Petrie with him in his last moments.)

2.)  Plated Sharptooth.(he gets higher than Sierra because he's a Sharptooth.  Also, he's bigger than Chomper's parents and also seems to be able to own them individually, if not when they are together, and that alone makes him pretty dangerous.  The fact that he snaps at and tears apart a bush that the kids had been in moments before makes him creepy.)   He also can leap great distances like the original.  Also, he seems quite willing to kill, not minding what he kills.  He had the kids cornered against a cliff, where they were trapped between him and the swimming Sharptooth in the water.  He seems willing to whack Chomper when Chomper gets in his way.  Heck, he still is willing to fight when both Chomper's parents come along, rather than giving up the kids as a bad job (which, ironically enough, had he done that, would have almost certainly spelled the demise of the kids, as it seems Chomper's parents only spared the kids because Littlefoot rescued Chomper.  He wouldn't need rescuing then.  It would be the end of Littlefoot & co anyway, a very painful end too.  The only way out woulda been if Chomper had persuaded his parents not to eat his friends.)  Anyway, Plated Sharpteeth is knocked into the water, much like the original, and, like the original, he decides he isn't going down alone, this time taking Chomper instead of Petrie.  Chomper is rescued by Littlefoot while Plated Sharptooth presumably drowns, just like the original.  

3.) Sierra (This guy would make a good Sharpptoh villain, as it would suit his personality more.  Not much says "I'm evil and I like being that way!" like comments like "You should be used to this sort of thing by now?" and "Once we take over, I'm feeding those overgrown eggs to the Sharpteeth!"  And, let's not forget, he tried to do in Ducky many times, and wanted the kids dead and even tried to kill Pterano.  He wanted to enslave the Great Valley, rather than make it better, which was what Pterano was after.   Also, he has this sort of "I hate the world!" attitude that makes it quite clear, he doesn't care who dies as long as he's happy.  Also, he might still be alive, unlike the two dudes above.  Also, his appearance even LOOKS evil. )

4.)  Rinkus (This guy is less evil than Sierra.  However, he is pretty nasty, also wanting to kill Pterano and also wanting to leave Ducky on the mountain.  He also wants to enslave the Great Valley.  He also appears to be loyal to Pterano, while plotting with Sierra to kill Pterano.  Also, he could also still be alive too.)

5.) Red Claw (Yes, he may not seem that dangerous, but if Sharpteeth and Leaf Eaters alike are scared of him, you an bet there's GOT to be something really bad about him.  Perhaps he has  a Sharptooth army we don't know about yet.)  


5.)  Ozzy (He doesn't mind murder over a bunch of stupid eggs.  I mean, come on dude, you coulda had a nice omelet snack while the grownups were busy dealing with Chomper's parents and going to close the Great Wall, but no, you had to go and try and whack Littlefoot instead!  Also, your treatment of your own brother is awful!  He just wanted to be a leaf eater!   You try to chase the kids (who appeared to think Chomper had eaten Littlefoot and were downcast too, come on, can't you at least let them mourn their friend buddy?!,  and then try and either claw or strangle Littlefoot too.   Later, you want to give the kids baths in lava.  Also, you try and get the kids again. And, when the fire is coming, you order your brother to give way to you, yelling "I'm first!  I'm first!  I'm always first!" to show what a selfish bastard you are!  You realize Strut coulda died man!   Later, you try and get Littlefoot and were gonna be the one who offs him.  Definitely evil!)  


6.)  Ichy (He can fly and he's a Sharptotoh.  That's two lethal combinations.  Yes, he's a bumbler, which is why he loses out to Rinkus and Sierra and Ozzy.   However, he does have good vision and does most of the directing of Dil, who cannot find the kids on her own (she didn't even know she had Ducky on her nose for goodness sakes!!!!!)   His size seems to be what's holding him back.  He almost seems to be an "evil Guido".  Also, he is the one that points Dil to Littlefoot, grabs Petrie and may have gotten him, if Dil hadn't argued with him, and woulda gotten Ducky, had Petrie not interfered, sending Ducky to Dil instead.  Also, he has a greater chance of survival than Dil as nothing chased him at the end.  Also, he is the only Sharpooth flyer type shown (other than the one that tried to eat Ducky in V.)  whereas Belly Draggers appear both in IV (though that may have been Dil too) and in X and in the TV series too.)  )

7.)  Dil (Her Myopia makes her less dangerous, despite her bigger size.  However, he attempts to whack Littlefoot, Cera, Ali, and Ducky, not to mention her attack on Ichy, make her pretty bad.)

8.) Strut (He seems to be the victim of his brother and so seems odd to be on this list.  However, his kooky, yet evil, laugh near the middle gives away that he is really bad.  Further, he doesn't seem to question his brother's murderous plots to kill the kids at all.   Indeed, he is Ozzy's sidekick in them.  Also, he helps tackle Littlefoot and was the one who suggested murdering him by throwing him of the Great Wall.  He also I think was the one that grabbed Chomper and looked like he was going to strangle him.  He is only rated lower as he seems a few tree stars short of a branch in some ways and doesn't eat eggs, or doesn't like too and appears to be a coward and let himself be pushed around by his brother.)

9.)  Topps (He is good, overall.  However, he is really bigoted, goes crazy during the water shortage (though some of his behavior can be, according to Toops, what his father, who may still be alive by the way according to Topps. Also, the fact that Topps uses the words "may be what I am today" hints that he may not have talked to his father in some time.   Anyway, Topps almost gets Cera killed when, thinking he knows more than everyone else, he goes trying to dodge the wildfire, and he and his daughter are nearly roasted.  Also, it was his brilliant idea to separate the herds in the fifth movie.  Also, he isn't very nice to Tippy's herd and constantly whines how Littlefoot and the others, specifically Littlefoot, is a bad influence on his daughter.  Still, he's got balls and fights off Chomper's father, Red Claw, and loads of Belly Draggers.  He's fearless, albeit hardheaded.)

10.)  Hyp  (He gets on this list for how he treated Littlefoot and Co, wanting to bully them.  he can be forgiven, one thinks, perhaps, as he was treated the same way by his father.  However, Hyp gets Littlefoot in hot water, or splashed water, with Topps, which is the reason Cera has to meet Littlefoot in secret for the film as Topps won't let her see him because of that.  Also, he was gonna hoard that watering hole, despite how thirsty everyone was.  That's pretty selfish man!  Also, he was gonan go off and get water for himself in the Mysteirous Beyond, as he knew where it was, not even bothering to tell the grownups, who could have helped him.   Also, one would have thought that he had reformed after III, but, given that Littlefoot didn't want to meet him in the TV series, I'd say he still has a few flaws.  Also, he was gonna smash the Fast Biter eggs, which seems cold.  However, he seems, hopefullly, to have finally become nice.)  


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Character Discussion / Top 10 LBT villians
« on: December 21, 2014, 02:13:45 AM »
Quote from: Malte279,Jan 29 2010 on  10:46 AM
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9 Strut (Not really a villian, offensive actions were caused by his brother)
Generally I tend to agree, but remember that Strut was the one of the two who came up with the idea of murdering Littlefoot by throwing him from the Great Wall.
Yeah, well, death by being thrown off the Great Wall would probably be a less painful end than death by taking a bath in lava, which was what Ozzy seemed to be suggesting earlier when he said "Leaving so soon?  But you haven't had your baths."  Also, let's not forget that Ozzy never said "Ok, Strut, murder is a little far there buddy." but instead grins and says "Yes!".

Also, it may have been Strut that tried to strangle Chomper though.  However, Ozzy was the one that was actually gonna off Littlefoot as he was holding him.  

However, the reason I still think Ozzy is eviler is how he treated Strut.  Heck, Strut may have suggested murder, which seems to be more of Ozzy's thing, to try and gain acceptance from his brother.  

Also, Ozzzy was gonna push the kids off the cliff, and looked like he was gonna claw Littlefoot.   However, Strut's evil, albiet kinda dorky, laugh is also unnerving.  

However, Sierra only misses the top spot because Sharptooth killed Littlefoot's mother.  Heck, if Sierra were a Sharptooth, you KNOW he'd kill for fun and not just for food.  


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General Land Before Time / Regarding ANY LBT 14 Topics
« on: December 21, 2014, 01:46:03 AM »
I think this may not refer to the TV series, unless it has to.  Just like Wisdom of Friends and the TV series were done at the same time, and the TV series was confirmed to take place after movie 13, they can always do movie 14, assuming it takes place AFTER the TV series, and still even return to the TV series, as long as they don't counter what they did in movie 14.  

I'm hoping for another villainess.  I'm also hinting that one of my favorite LBT villains (who, hopefully, is still alive, as, unlike my other favorite (the infamouse Sharptooth of the first movie), he wasn't confirmed to have died.) Sierra, will come back.


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Land Before Time TV Series (2007) / are you happy with the TV series?
« on: December 21, 2014, 12:09:08 AM »
Has anyone noticed that Chomper and Ruby are staying the night in some cave (that seems to be between the Great Valley and the Mysterious Beyond)?  i.e., they're not being allowed to spend the night directly IN the Great Valley.


Do you think enough of the grownups feared Chomper (and heck, maybe Ruby too) would try and eat their hatchlings in the night when it would be very easy to do so?


In other words, they trust Chomper enough to let him wander, with Littlefoot & co, during the day, where they can act if he tries anything carnivorous, but they fear he might do something at night when it would be all too easy to eat hatchlings and run off in the night, unpunished.  Why else would he wanna sleep in a, sometimes leaking, cave?

Also, I just realized ANOTHER oddity surrounding Chomper.  He goes by the name of "Chomper" despite it being given to him by Littlefoot and despite the fact that, one would surmise, Chomper's  didn't know Chomper was friends with Littlefoot anymore than one would have thought Grandpa and Grandma Longneck knew about Chomper.   Why didn't his parents give him a different name?  I mean, usually parents name the child, not (to them) edible leaf eaters.)  

(I personally wonder if Littlefoot mentioned Chomper this time when the grownups may have asked "where ya been?" at the end of V and they found out about and most approved of him.)  





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Let's say that Littlefoot, for whatever reason, was willing to admit he broke the rules in II and actually told them the truth: that they went after Egg Stealers to try and make themselves look grown up, that they thought they took back Ducky's sibling's egg but had grabbed a Sharptooth egg and that it had turned out to be a Sharptooth egg?

He'd also point out that Chomper didn't seem dangerous and hadn't tried to hurt him, despite having a few chances to do so.  


Do you think their response would have been:

1.) To tell Littlefoot that he has a wild imagination (i.e. they wouldn't believe him)
2.) They'd demand to be shown where Chomper is so they could kill him.

(If this happens, which of the following 2 scenarios do you think would happen?)

2..a) Littlefoot would openly criticize that decision and make a very profound statement that killing Chomper, when he is so young, is no better, and perhaps worse, than the older Sharpteeth that only kill leaf eaters for food.  And he'd refuse to help them find Chomper, perhaps hiding him from them or even fleeing the Great Valley with him to save his life.  


2.b.) He'd just accept their decision and feel like an idiot for telling.


3.) They'd realize that it would be wrong to kill Chomper, but would say that having a Sharptooth in the Great Valley is dangerous and would insist on showing Chomper to the exit?

4.) They'd help hide Chomper and then things would proceed as normal as they did in the movie?

5.) They'd have called a meeting with the other adults and insisted that Chomper, as long as he doesn't hurt anyone, can stay.


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General Land Before Time / If you could change one thing in LBT
« on: December 20, 2014, 11:27:59 PM »
Giving Spike his real parents could also open up the possibility that he'd leave the Gang of Five.

Adding Bron may well have produced the Armageddon scenario I mentioned in the post above, even if his wife did die, as Littlefoot would have never met the others, and you know the rest.  


On the more humorous side, I'd like to add the following line to Mysterious Island, after they ran from Chomper and Chomper finds them.

Chomper: Why did you guys run?  Does my breath smell that    bad???


Also, maybe I'm goofy, but it would have been amusing to, rather than have Strut stoop to his brother's level, wanting to murder Littlefoot, instead say he thinks Ozzy is going too far and that this is dumb over just stupid eggs, Ozzy says he'll do it himself, goes to the cliff with Littlefoot, also grabs Chomper when Chomper tries to save Littlefoot.  Strut would try and stop Ozzy.  Ozzy would push over Strut and say he'll always be weak.   Then Chomper's parents would come and chase Ozzy off and Strut would say "I don't need you anyway."  after his brother and then pick up leaves and eat them, happy again.  Heck, he could be friendly with Littlefoot and we could have had a nice egg stealer just like we had a nice Sharptooth character.  


Also, if I weren't so fond of Ichy, I'd be humorous, have had Dil actually eat him and then say "Wow, that big mouth tasted kinda feathery." and then have her chased off, as actually happened in the movie.

Also, I'd have altered LBT original ending to have the final fight and the death scene in the Mountains that Burn instead of outside the Great Valley.  Everything would go the same, except, as Petrie couldn't survive it the way I'd alter it, he wouldn't fall with Sharptooth, but Sharptooth would go into lava instead of water as I thought drowning was too nice a death for the most
sinister villain in the series.



Also, I'd have plated Sharpooth back away at first, though he'd plan to come back.  The kids would be trapped against the sea and swimming Sharptooth and Chomper's parents.

Chomper's Mother: (Speaking in Sharptooth) At least, food!
Chomper:  (Speaking in Sharptooth) NOOOOO!
Chomper's Father: (Speaking in Sharptooth) Nice job at catching them!  Now move out of the way!
Chomper: (Putting himself in front of Littlefoot) (Speaking in Sharptooth) You want to eat him, you'll have to eat me too!
Chomper's Parents: (Angry) (Speaking in Sharptooth) Get out of the way NOW Chomper!
Chomper:  (Speaking in Sharptooth) No, they're my friends!
Chimper's Parents: (Speaking in Sharptooth) Fine, we won't eat them!  
Chomper's Fahher: (Speaking in Sharptooth) I guess this explains you getting plants earlier.
Chomper: (To his friends) I got them to not you!
Littlefoot: See Cera, I told you Chomper could be trusted!  
Cera: Look out!
(Plated Sharptooth comes back, making a go at Littlefoot & Co.  However, Chomnper's father knocks him off the edge with his tail.  However, Plated Sharptooth takes Chomper with him and Littlefoot goes after him.  things then continue as they did in the movie, with the exception that Chomper's parents don't say they won't eat Littlefoot & Co later as they already have now.)




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General Land Before Time / If you could change one thing in LBT
« on: December 20, 2014, 11:20:29 PM »
Might as well say, I have checked what would happen if Mama Longneck was kept alive.  It would be the end of LBT as we know it.

Here is what the timeline might look like, given what we know happens as is.


Land Before Time (original) events

Scenario 1:  Littlefoot does not wander off.  Sharptooth goes after Cera instead of both Littlefoot and Cera.  As Littlefoot does not call for his mother, as he is still asleep, Sharptooth eats Cera for a late night snack.  Sharptooth continues on his reign of terror afterward, killing and eating more dinosaurs the rest of his evil life.   (Note, the events after this are the same as Scenario 2.)

Scenario 2:  Littlefoot and Cera are chased by Sharptooth.  They are rescued by Littlefoot's mother, who is able to dodge being mortal wounded by Sharptooth.  Sharptooth may or may not have been killed (if he isn't, he will kill again over and over for the rest of his life.)  The Great Earthshake happens.  Herds are separated.  Littlefoot remains with his alive mother and never meets Cera, Ducky, Petrie, or Spike.   Cera may have met the others and led them.  They likely would have followed Cera to the Mountains that Burn, where Ducky, Petrie, and Spike would not have been saved by Littlefoot, who never met them, and hence perished in lava.  Cera, unable to be rescued by the others, would have become a snack for Domeheads.  Littlefoot is the only main character left of the five now and comes to the Great Valley with his mother.  However, he is dismayed to see that, unlike what his mother thought, there seem to be few longnecks to play with and, having never met Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike, may have been a believer in herd separation and hence had few friends.

Land Before Time II: Great Valley Adventure events

- As Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike have died, Littlefoot wasn't awoken by them and slept through the night.  Ozzy and Strut meanwhile, unbothered by the kids, most of whom have died, are able to get eggs without being hampered.  

-  As Littlefoot slept through the night, Chomper's egg wasn't moved.  They never became friends.  Chomper hatches and stays with his parents.  He becomes a regular sharptooth, learning to eat the meat of other dinosaurs.  

Land Before Time IV: Journey through the Mists (which may have come before Land Before Time III chronologically) events

-  Littlefoot and Ali set out alone, as they actually did in the regular universe Land Before Time, and try and get the Night Flower to save Grandpa Longneck.  However, without the help of the others, Ali is unable to break the rocks after the earthshake alone.  Littlefoot and Archie are killed and eaten by Dil and Ichy.

-  Not getting the Nightflower, Grandpa Longneck succumbs to his illness and dies.

-  Ali has some explaining to do to Littlefoot's mother and Grandma Longneck of why Littlefoot will never be coming back.  The two older longneck's mourn the deaths of both Littlefoot and Grandpa Longneck.

- It is possible that Grandma Longneck and Littlefoot's mother may have left the Great Valley with Ali's herd, as Grandpa Longneck and Littlefoot are dead.   If they did, there will be no more longnecks left in the Great Valley.  

- Ali spends the rest of her life haunted by the death of Littlefoot, likley beating herself up for agreeing to take him toward the Land of Mists.  The two have no hope of falling in  love now as Littlefoot is dead.  

Archie would also perish as he wouldn't be rescued as Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike would be dead.  

 Land Before Time III: The Time of Great Giving (events)

- With all of the gang dead, except possibly Littlefoot, Hyp wans't rescued and died in the tar pit.

- Members of the Great Valley may have died without the help of Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike, Hyp, and possibly Littlefoot.

- Had Littlefoot been around and Journey through the Mists taken place later, Littlefoot, Nod, and Mutt might have  died, unable to push the boulder at the Velociraptors without the help of Cera, Ducky, Petrie, Spike, and Hyp.

- Cera's father, assuming Land Before Time IV took place before this one, may have perished in the fire as Grandpa Longneck wasn't alive to rescue him.  

Land Before Time V: The Mysterious Island (events)

- with Littlefoot and the gang dead and without Grandpa Longneck, the herds would undoubtably have split up, many may have died of hunger and thirst, and it is unknown how many, if any, would return to the Great Valley as they wouldn't have found all of the food wihtout the children's efforts.

- Chomper continues to eat meat and continues on his path to be a regular Sharptooth

Land Before Time VI: Secrets of Saurus Rock events

- Events here aren't as drastic, though the Great Valley might not be that inhabited after the events of the previous movie in this altered universe.  However, Topps, Grandpa Longneck, and the five main characters are dead here.  

- Bad luck wouldn't have hit the Great Valley, as Saurus Rock was never broken.  However, given the other events of this altered timeline, this is very small consolation indeed.  

- As Grandpa Longneck is dead and Doc wold never have gone near Saurus Rock, the two sharpteeth seen in the Great Valley might still be alive.

Land Before Time VII: The Stone of Cold Fire  events

- Without anyone believing that there is good in him and with no chance at redemption, Pterano would almost certainly have remained bad and, over time, become as evil as Rinkus and Sierra.

Land Before Time VIII: The Big Freeze events

- Without being able to help the children, Mr. Thicknose might not have been able to get redemption and may have fallen out of favor with the grownups and lost his teaching position.

- The Mountain Sharptooth, having never been killed by Thicknose as he'd have no reason to go into the Mysterious Beyond, would have lived and killed more dinosaurs for food.

- Tippy and his herd, having not been rescued by the others, as they are all dead, would have died of hunger in the Mysterious Beyond.


Land Before Time IX: Journey to Big Water events

- Mo, having not been helped to find his home again, may well have been killed by the Swimming Sharptooth when he got free.


Land Before Time X: Great Longneck Migration events

- Grandma Longneck goes on the journey with Littlefoot's mother.  Grandpa Longneck and Littlefoot have long been dead.

- There they meet Bron, who hears the sad news that his son and father-in-law have died.  Littlefoot's Mother would have lived with her husband upon finding him.  Grandma Longneck, now a widow, may also have stayed with them.  In this case, there would be no longnecks left in the Great Valley.


Land Before Time XI: Invasion of the Tinysauruses events

- Big Daddy and the other Tinysauruses, having never befriended Littlefoot and the others as they are all dead, will remain wary of bigger dinosaurs for the rest of their lives.

- As Topps may have died, Tria never falls in love with him.  

Land Before Time XII: The Great Day of Flyers events

- Tricia may never have been born as Topps may have died.

- The Great Day of Flyers would never have been altered by Petrie as he died years earlier.

- Tricia would have drowned, if she had been born at all.

-  Guido may well have fallen to his death while sleep walking as the others wouldn't have been there to rescue him.

Land Before Time XIII: The Wisdom of Friends events

- It isn't known here how things may have differed, though Loofah and Doofah might have come to a bad end without the other characters being alive.

TV Series events

- The TV Series would, for all intents and purposes, have been about Chomper, a leat-eater killing meat eater, and Ruby as the Gang of Five are all dead by that point.  

- As Chomper would NEVER have been let into the Great Valley, Chomper and Ruby would have had to have spent the rest of their lives running around the Mysterious Beyond running from Red Claw and his Fast Biters, perhaps one day coming to a bad end at their hand.

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General Land Before Time / What would you like to see in future releases?
« on: December 20, 2014, 11:08:01 PM »
I'd like to find out why nobody seemed to care how those Sharpteeth had gotten into the Great Valley in VI.  I mean, they just acted like "Oh well, let's bring them down." instead of "How the heck did they get in here?" like they did when Chompers parents got in and later when Red Claw, Screech, and Thud got in.

However, the Great Valley doesn't seem totally safe from invaders as Ozzy and Strut got in and those Belly Draggers were able to get right in in the Amazing Threehorn Girl.  


Also, an invasion of Sharptotoh flyers might be a nice idea.   I mean, the Great Wall is just useless against them as they can just fly right over it, right?  

Another fun idea, that we kinda saw in VI, would be to have Littlefoot & Co. do something, no doubt by accident, that would cause them to have to leave the Great Valley for a time  

Say they were horsing around and caused a rockslide that caused loads of the trees in the Great Valley to be flattened or something?  Then they'd have to go through the movie have to hear grownups say "This is all your fault!" and they'd try to find some way to redeem themselves.  

Besides, we have another reason to want to keep Grandpa and Grandma Longneck around: if they croak, Mr. Threehorn gets even more control over the main leadership (yeah, they said that  they all decide equally, but, some seem to be like minded to him, with Grandpa Longneck being the voice of reason, and, I mean, what if Cera's father gets the herds to argue and starts this "Every herd for itself." policy?  You realize how BAD that could be for their survival?  

We have another problem.  Unless Bron decides to come to the Great Valley, where does Littlefoot go?  That's right, he leaves his friends.  The Gang of Five would split up.  

Heck, Littlefoot and Grandma Longneck were considering leaving the Great Valley with Ali's herd when it seemed that Grandpa Longneck would die from his illness.  Even if one of them dies, that bodes very POORLY for Littlefoot staying in the Great Valley, barring Bron intervening.


Another possibility, though a bit darker, is to have a night time Sharptooth break in to the Great Valley.   It could result in leaf eater deaths.  We've seen Chomper's parents and Red Claw, Screech, and Thud go in during the day and we've seen those Great Valley Sharpteeth in VI, but, the point is, they were all stalking and doing their nasty stuff during the DAY.  


What if some tried it at night?  I mean, Sharpteeth are revealed to be sentient and not morons (well, not all of them) so some might want to break into the Great Valley, eat lots of leaf eaters, and then, well, get away.  

If that happened, everyone may wonder if the Great Valley is safe anymore and may consider going back to the Mysterious Beyond.  It would make quite a nice plotline indeed.


Also, I'd like to know whatever happened to the Fast Biters (Velociraptors) who got washed, it almost appears, into the Great Valley at the end of Time of Great Giving.  Yeah, they haven't come back in either the films or the TV series, but it would be interesting if they DID ever come back, possibly trying to sneak up on the Leaf Eaters, who may have forgotten about them.  Heck, maybe they let the two Sharpteeth from VI in.

Another interesting scenario is to have an almost repeat of the Great Earthshake, this time happening in the Great Valley, greatly messing up things.  Nobody would die, and the landscape wouldn't be altered forever, but it would force them to leave for over a year or two this time, making it necessary to have a movie or two outside of the Great Valley entirely while things grew back.  (Note, this scenario also increases the possibility of Ali or Tippy coming back or Spike finding his parents, who may be out there in the Mysterious Beyond.  Also, makes it easier for Chomper and Ruby to come back.  Also, as Pterano was only banished from the Great Valley, he could come back too.  It would mean more interspecies cooperation, which, I'm guessing, has probably been as bad as it was in the original film, at least in the Mysterious Beyond (the behavior of Ali toward non-Longnecks in IV seems to back this theory.)  The Great Valley has kind of ignored the outside world to the point where they forgot they were once part of it (as was shown in either III or V, can't recall which, when they realized they'd have to go back to the Mysterious Beyond.)  Also, as they are out there, Dil, Ichy, Ozzy Strut, Rinkus, Sierra, Red Claw, Screech, and Thud (assuming Chomper and Ruby didn't find a way to end the last three) could come back too, along with new bad guys.  Also, Mo could return too.  Also, Elsie could come back too, which would be fun.






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General Land Before Time / What would you like to see in future releases?
« on: December 20, 2014, 08:53:31 PM »
As for the grandparents staying around, there is some hope for that.  Doc looks quite healthy, despite being, we might surmise, the Lone Dinosaur, who is around, as Grandpa says, before his time.  

Also, one comes to think that the Old One from Ali's herd is older than them, as Grandma and Grandpa seem to act as though she is older and wiser than them.  

Also, dinosaurs can sometimes live to be over 100.  Don't count them as near the end of their life.

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Land Before Time TV Series (2007) / are you happy with the TV series?
« on: December 20, 2014, 06:21:35 PM »
Also, Chomper's parents' strange comment about viewing Chomper's friends as dessert, even though, as of yet, they didn't know what type they were, isn't the only strange thing I saw between them.

In Great Valley Adventure, one of them tries to bite Ducky, who was on the nose of the other.  Ducky gets away and the one that she was on the nose of got bitten by the other.

For a while, if you look closely, you can see the two fighting each other, before noticing the leaf eaters, looking at each other, and then going after them.

Perhaps it was just a marital fight where one was like "Nice going genius.  You bit me in the shnoz!"  and they fought before realizing the leaf eaters were getting away.


Another strange thing is that they seem to ignore Littlefoot both when he is stuck in the log and it almost seems like they'd have spotted him or smelled him.  (Perhaps Chomper told them to back off, but that doesn't explain then why'd they be after Littlefoot again in movie V.)  Also, they ignored LIttlefoot in the scene when they chased Ozzy and Strut too, despite Littlefoot being dangled by Ozzy (how did Littlefoot get back up on the edge by the way?)  right in front of them.


Also, it seems that Chomper DOES understand leaf eater even in II, because Littlefoot says stuff and he will shake his head and stuff like that like he understands it.  Also, he heard Littlefoot calling for help when Ozzy and Strut were gonna throw Littlefoot off the Great Wall.  

Also, back to the TV series, has anyone noticed that quite some time appears to have gone on during the series as they appear to have winter starting in one and winter ending in another and spring or summer at other times?


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General Land Before Time / What would you like to see in future releases?
« on: December 20, 2014, 05:32:07 PM »
FYI, there will probably be more than just 14.  I mean, we could go all the way to 20 or more.

Anyway, I would almost like to see Chomper struggle not to eat Littlefoot, especially as he got older.


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