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The Land Before Time => Land Before Time TV Series (2007) => Topic started by: Noname on February 09, 2007, 08:00:49 PM
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She's back! I saw it on wikipedia!!!! I really hope it's right!! This is shaping up to be a great series! They haven't forgotton the early episodes! We've waited 11 years for this day!!! I can hardly wait for the seventh episode to be posted (actually I can wait, but am
excited anyway.)
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yay! to bad I'll have to wait till the series is put on DVD.
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Woah
I hope this is right. Who the hell is Red?! I just hope this side-plot doesn't shadow Ali's return.
I would've prefered if she had returned in a film, oh well, one can't have everything.
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He's right!!
I'll post it up as soon as the episode is uploaded!
They gave her an....interesting...voice though.
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yay! to bad I'll have to wait till the series is put on DVD.
Wrong! Here's the link to the episode:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...21F37601988414E (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F21F37601988414E)
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Unfortunately, Ali's return was a bit anticlimactic. :(
The sidestory wasn't particularily interesting, and it really overshown Ali's return to the Great Valley.
Ali also seems Very different now, as to be expected, I suppose. She's actually difficult to judge in episode 7 since she is seen and heard from so rarely in this episode...
For the first Ali show in over 10 years, she sure didn't make much of an appearance. :cry
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I suppose it is; still this episode accomplishes quite a bit:
-It reintroduces Ali (obviously)
-It introduces Red (who may or may not be seen again in certain episodes )
-It reintroduces the Old One (who never had much of a character in the first place)
-Most importantly, it does NOT have Ali leave the valley at the end, even though this is a possibility. It's also possible that this episode was created in order to make good on the promise at the end of the fourth movie, which has now been fulfilled. Still, if this episode was going to be the ONLY one with Ali in it, they probably woulden't have introduced a friend of her's (Red); why go to the trouble of making a whole character if he's only going to be use in a single tv episode? Was it just me, or does Red remind one of Shorty?
-Finally, we now have, by the end of this episode, Littlefoot, Cera, Spike, Ducky, Petrie, Chomper, Ruby, Ali, and Red in the valley together. That's more than we've ever had at once. Of course, it is possible that Ali won't appear again (I hope that this isn't the case; her herd is or was migratory, you know), and probable that she won't be back for at least a few episodes even if she is back.
I was surprised by the lack of Littlefoot's grandparents, or the appearance of any of the parents. Still, this was a good episode, but not the overwhelming spectacle that we had been secretly anticipating all these years.
EDIT: This episode marks the third important non-main character (not including the parents/grandparents) to return from the movies; Chomper returned in the first episode and became a main character, Tria probably came in the second episode (with Tricia), and now Ali is back, but for how long, and how often will she be seen? Was it only for this episode? Will Red also return?; it doesn't matter too much if he does, in my opinion.
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I hope Ali won't stay there forever - I doubt her herd is going to let her stay in the Great Valley. Red didn't interest me too much - he was a one-demensional character...and I also didn't like the voice they gave Ali. I was expecting something similiar to what she sounded like in LBT4. I noticed that her eyes were a LOT brighter, too. I'm still waiting for the writers to step out of the box and create a Pachycephalosaurus-like visitor, that meaning aggressive, surly, and a dino that won't solve all its problems in a single epi...a neat idea came into my head just now. What about a dumb (here meaning unable to talk) dinosaur? That would be quite interesting.
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What about a dumb (here meaning unable to talk) dinosaur? That would be quite interesting.
And... who is Spike again? :lol:
This was an awesome episode! I don't think it was too anticlimatic for an Ali reappearance. Yes now that you mention it, she didn't get too much screentime, but hopefully she will appear in a couple more episodes to flesh out her character a bit.
I really LOVE Red (I guess if we're going by his Wikipedia name...? I don't know why you would call him Red, though, he's not red at all. I thought they were saying Ret). I loved Shorty too. The know-it-all little boy characters always amust me. Hee hee. Like that bully deer in Bambi II, he's so cute!! :lol
The scenes with Chomper running from the longnecks was quite exhilerating!! When he said "Please don't hurt me" I was all "Awwwwwww!!"
And we get to learn where Chomper and Ruby live! In the 'secret caves'! This implies that they DO hide from the adults of the Great Valley. (Why else would they call it a secret?) Man, when Chomper said it was a 'long story' I soooo wished I had seen eps 1 and 2!!
But...I MUST address one thing that has been getting to me since episode three. Does anyone else notice...that Chomper has...erm....boobs? :blink:
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Yes I noticed that.
I don't think what they did to Ali in the episode was a big deal. It could have been worse, in my opinion.
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What about a dumb (here meaning unable to talk) dinosaur? That would be quite interesting.
And... who is Spike again? :lol:
I mean someone who isn't a main character. As for Chomper's chest, he doesn't have breasts - they're just defining his chest muscles a bit. Well. What little he has. I also wished that Chomper actually growled and didn't keep on making human-imitating-animal-growls noises. I mean, they're fine, but I just wish he would go "GGRRRRR" like an actual animal instead of "GggRRRRR" like a kid pretending to be a lion or something.
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As for Chomper's chest, he doesn't have breasts - they're just defining his chest muscles a bit. Well. What little he has.
LOL. Yeah, I know. Defining a little TOO much is what I meant. I mean, if they want to make him muscular they could give his arms more than 3 inches of thickness and cut back on the man-boobs! :lol
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Did anyone expect Ali's herd to go on a rampage? Surely, they coulden't have thought that Chomper was a lethal threat. Still, a migrating herd that has seen many dangers would be likely to develop paranoia... I wonder how Bron's herd would react? Now that we see that it is perfectly feasable for an old guest character like Ali to return, the possibility of other characters returning is wide open. If Ali could come back, it seems that just about anyone can.
As for the... chest comments that you are making, you should know that that's probably more accurate to show; theropod dinosaurs are the direct ancestors of birds, and in many birds, up to 2/5ths of the muscle mass may be in the chest area. In modern birds, this helps them to flap their wings. That said, there was one slightly disconcerting shot...
Still, it doesn't matter too much.
EDIT: See this site for information about bird muscles: http://www.paulnoll.com/Oregon/Birds/Avian-Muscle.html (http://www.paulnoll.com/Oregon/Birds/Avian-Muscle.html)
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I happen to be a fan of Ali's, so when DarkHououmon told me I was extremly happy to hear. The reunion between them could have been a bit better, but I am glad Ali has returned. I hopes she sticks around for the next episode, and the one after that, and the one after that one, and one after that one, and that one after that one, and...that...one...(faints) XD
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I hope they listen to you KingdomKey =P
I was afraid this could happen, that's why I prefered if her return happened in a film instead of an episode from the series. I really hated this Red (or Ret, or whatever) character. I did find Littlefoot and Cera's jeoulosy quite cute :D
But this episode was more centered on Ret and Chomper, than Ali or anyone else, since she didn't leave she'll probably stick around for a while. Did you noticed that the Old One changed color? Where's Ali's mom? The members of the herd also changed color, and looks, they're all grey and pinkish and don't look at all like Grandma and Grandpa, like they did in LBT 4. Ali herself is a bit weird as well. After 11 years, I'm just glad that she's back, however this wasn't the great adventure that I imagined after the LBT 4's ending anouncement.
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After a total of 8 sequals and 6 TV episodes, Ali finally returns. However, it's a bit of a disappointment. I really wish it was more centered around Ali. I didn't like the plot all that much, but I did enjoy Ret being around. (Yes, that is his real name. NOT Red. Though to be honest, I can see how anyone can make that mistake.) Ret is an interesting charcter and definately reminds me of Shorty.
Now, I expected more from this episode, but I hope Ali sticks around for at least a few more episodes.
There was one other thing that kind of bothered me. Ali giving into being friends with Chomper so quickly. Why? Well think about it for a second with Ali's relationship with other sharpteeth, and I'm sure you'll understand. The fact that she is food to sharpteeth, would make it difficult for her to have even the slightest friendship with a sharptooth, even a friendly one like Chomper. I was expecting it to start with Ali feeling uneasy about such a thing, and it growing on her. Then again, she probably feels safe with her friends and her herd being around, so maybe we'll get a nice little scene where Ali discusses how she feels about Chomper.
The reintroduction of two songs, "Friends for Dinner" from LBT 5 and "It's not Fair" (Yes, that's the official name now, action9000, so go ahead and change what I called "Cera's Song" to "It's not Fair".) from Episode 5 was nice. The possibility of more reintroductions of songs is definately looking up. There may even be a possibility of the classic and popular "If we Hold on Together" being sang by the group. I, for one, can easily imagine the group singing such a beautiful song. Though I hope they don't do anything to it and keep it as is. That goes the same with several others when and if they make a reappearance.
I won't be working on the lyrics to the songs until tomorrow. On Saturdays, I don't get much time to work on stuff like that. So don't expect them to be given to you until then, action9000, but definately change the one I called "Cera's Song" to "It's not Fair", okay? :)
Well, gotta go now. See ya later. :^.^:
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I think that Ali's readjustment to Chomper would be a long subject more suited for a sequel than a 22 min TV episode.
There are many stories to be told about Ali, and all this time she wasn't around, let's see what they do about that.
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On closer listening, one realizes that "Red" is actually named Rhet, which, in the abscene of closed captionaing, could also be spelled Ret, or, the name newly used on wikipedia,
Rhette.
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On closer listening, one realizes that "Red" is actually named Rhet, which, in the abscene of closed captionaing, could also be spelled Ret, or, the name newly used on wikipedia,
Rhette.
Oooo, he's french! B)
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Did anyone expect Ali's herd to go on a rampage? Surely, they coulden't have thought that Chomper was a lethal threat. Still, a migrating herd that has seen many dangers would be likely to develop paranoia...
Yes, I seem to recall that particular herd being a little too paranoid, mostly influenced by the Old One. Like in the movie when they refused to help Littlefoot's grandfather. It does seem in character that they would overreact to a baby sharptooth.
Poor Chomper! When they had him cornered against the stone wall I thought they were going to eat him. :blink:
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Actually, they were probably going to crush him flat. Anyway, from this episode, we can see that Ali is no longer frightened of others, but that she is gullible and probably not too smart (she actually believed Rhette!) I suppose being shut away inside a paranoid, closed off, migratory herd can't be too good for one's mental development; just look at migratory people today. One feature of migratory tribes in Africa is a decided primitivism and lack of exposure to outside ideas, largely manifested through superstition and a lack of examination. Another feature is great obidience to an archaic (usually family-based) system. The Old One is probably the mother, grandmother, aunt, great aunt, older sister, and maybe even great-grandmother (probably not) to much, if not all of the herd. And she is obeyed without question. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone in that herd was a member of an extended family, with the exception of any newcomers, which probably constitute a small percentage of the population, and only with the Old One's approval. I wouldn't be surpised if intermarriages quickly began between old and integrated herd members in order to form a primitive, non-civil form of tribal social cohesion. I suppose this gives variety to the group's familes:
Littlefoot: Grandparents. Dead mother, Father is leader of distant herd.
Ducky: Mother and siblings, including adopted brother Spike.
Spike: Adopted by mother of other species.
Petrie: Mother and siblings.
Cera: Father, Stepmother, Half-Sister; also has nephew and niece; had other siblings and mother, but they are lost and presumed dead.
Chomper: Mother and Father; separated from them; lives with Ruby.
Ruby: Mother, Father, two younger siblings; separated from them; possibly deceased?
Ali: Last we saw (lbt IV), she lived with her mother, she probably has many members of her extended family with her, but any exact relationship is unconfirmed.
Rhette: Don't know, probably some family in the herd. Is it just me, or does his French name seem like a blow to the courage of French people, in that he acts brave and yet is willing to surrender/run away at the slightest sign of danger? ("cheese-eating surrender monkeys.")
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Is it possible that Ali's herd (and Ali herself) are... inbred? Some elements of Ali's character remind me of a Siamese cat (especially those very blue eyes), and those felines are notoriously inbred. Some other qualities common to Ali and Siamese cats include shyness (at least at first in movie IV) and sensitivity. Also, many members of Ali's herd look alike, with little diversity (but not all, due to possible linking up of new memebers); compare this herd to Bron's herd in the flashback in the 10th movie. What we see of Brons herd is very diverse in terms of color, and even species. The Old One leads a mostly homogoneous group.
Also, did anyone notice that it has suddenly become easier to tell Littlefoot and Ali apart at a distance? We see in a side-view shot that Littlefoot is now significantly larger than Ali, which is natural, given that at least a couple of years have passed (in the internal chronology of the series), and that males are usually larger than females.
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Actually that's not all true. In many animals the female is actually larger than the male. Female elepahants are larger than males, female T-Rex's are larger than males, and it's believed that in most sauropods the females were larger than males.
You're looking at this way to seriously, the producers don't care about scientific accuracy, and even if they did, Ali's herd has always welcomed new comers, so there probably isn't much inbred.
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I know... they aren't too concerned with scientific accuracy... Still, adressing these points:
1. We can't really tell the male Sauropod fossils apart from the female ones.
Source:http://dml.cmnh.org/1997Dec/msg00064.html
But some evidence suggests that the males were larger than females:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/2003/1002680.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/2003/1002680.htm)
http://www.sauropod-dinosaurs.uni-bonn.de/sauropodlong.htm (http://www.sauropod-dinosaurs.uni-bonn.de/sauropodlong.htm)
2. As for elephants; it's true that in some cases, some female are larger than some males, but as this site shows: http://elephant.elehost.com/About_Elephant...t_elephants.htm (http://elephant.elehost.com/About_Elephants/about_elephants.htm)
Adult female elephants are half the size of a fully grown male in both African and Asian elephants. Check it if you don't believe me.
The largest elephant ever recorded was shot in Angola in 1956. It was male and weighed about 12,000 kg.
3. As for the tyrannosaurus... we have only ever conclusively determined the gender of any tyrannosaurus ever found (a female who died during ovulation.) It is true that some scientists theorized that some of the "Robust" fossils found had a wider pelvis; which would suggest that they were female; however, we have no way of determining that. Also, it is true that today, female birds of prey (close relatives of tyrannosaurus) are larger than their male counterparts, but crocodiles (another close relative) have tremendous dimorphism between genders, with the males being up to twice as long as the female.
Source: http://crocodilian.com/crocfaq/faq-1.html (http://crocodilian.com/crocfaq/faq-1.html) (scroll down and check the species size, and note that there may be exceptions in rare cases.)
All I wanted to say is that Littlefoot is shown to be larger than Ali in a profile shot. That's all. I didn't want to go into this whole above elephant thing. Here's another site which proves me correct:
http://www.nature-wildlife.com/eletxt.htm (http://www.nature-wildlife.com/eletxt.htm)
Sorry to really pile these on: http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-elephant.html (http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-elephant.html)
Now will you believe that male elephants are larger than their female counterparts?
We (I) should stop this now, before it pollutes this thread any further.
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You're looking at this way to seriously, the producers don't care about scientific accuracy, and even if they did, Ali's herd has always welcomed new comers, so there probably isn't much inbred.
LOL. I agree, you're putting WAY too much thought into this. The show creators wouldn't care about any of that, they're just making a kid's show and we all know about the inaccuracies of LBT.
I think you're reading too much into the French thing too. Just because Rhette is a French spelling doesn't mean they're trying to make some slander to French people because of his character! Is Shorty a slander to short people? :blink:
Chiiiilllllllll out. B)
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I know. I said I would stop polluting this thread. I just realized that at least a couple of posts ago. That said, Ali's herd is paranoid; we can agree on that. I do have a tendency to... overanalyze things.
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I know. I said I would stop polluting this thread. I just realized that at least a couple of posts ago. That said, Ali's herd is paranoid; we can agree on that. I do have a tendency to... overanalyze things.
You don't say. :D
I didn't know that thing about elephants, I was under the impression the females were larger. I don't agree with the comparing crocodiles to Dinosaurs, the latter are more evolved and have nothing to do with crocs. Still, just chill, this thread is about Ali's return, my God, it's been 11 years and she's back! I was disappointed with the way she came back, we should be talking about this and not about how weird her herd is.
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Agreed. Let's see; we get the impression that Ali isn't too intelligent in this episode; she buys into the stories Rhette (or Rhet, Rhett, or Red) tells her, and then claims Littlefoot is jealous just because he can't do those impossible things. :rolleyes:
Any thoughts? I promise that I won't go on anymore about this "migrating herd mentality."
EDIT: As for how she came back; I think that unless this was the most amazing thing ever seen in any LBT episode, we would have been disappointed. Our expectations were probably through the roof, and had we not waited so long, we probably woulden't had so much anticipation. Still, we had reason to believe that she would make a return; the YTV site has an image from the cover of the fourth movie as it's picture for the series, one explicitely showing Littlefoot and Ali.
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Also, did anyone else think Ali's eyes were made to be even more blue than they were before?
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Also, did anyone else think Ali's eyes were made to be even more blue than they were before?
I did. They almost hurt to look at they were so bright blue.
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I agree, but I did find something really cool they kep that special look that she had in lbt 4, when she's like sceptical about something.
I think that despite her come back, could've been a bit more interesting, there were other situations they could've explored. When Ducky, Petrie and Spike find out that Ali is back they don't react they go right ahead to make a plan to expose Rhette (or whatever his name is). Littlefoot and Cera could've also explained to Chomper and Ruby who Ali was, and I dought that Ali would've ever been so cold when adressing Littlefoot and Cera after such a long while gone.
This episode lacked a lot of stuff, I guess my disappointment is based on this and in the fact that I've waited for this moment for so long, I was expecting something like the second coming of Jesus :unsure:
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It is rather important to get things right indeed. As an experienced fanfiction writer on several different universes, I highly understand how important accuracy really is. You make just one mistake, and people go crazy. :rolleyes:
There should've indeed been more excitment within the group. I mean, I'd be pretty excited myself if I ran into a friend that I knew who I hadn't seen in years.
It should've been such a way with Ducky, Petrie and Spike. I really don't think the writers took much time to work on these eps. It really makes me wonder, was this a rush job? If so, then I know of the disappointment that's about to come.
In all truth, there was just so much more that could've been done with the storyline in this ep.
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This episode is clearly centered on two characters: Rhette and Chomper.
I take this as a writers "blooper". Ali comes back after 11 years, and they put her aside and just introduce a new charcter. I hope this happened so they can develop on Ali's character in the next episode 'cause otherwise it makes no sense.
On a more personal note as for the excitement, I thought about it, and recently I've met a friend whom I haven't seen in years and to tell you the truth it wasn't that exciting. We were like hey, no time no see, but then we just went to small talk. When you spend a lot of time apart you change and just don't no what to say, I guess this is the prespective that was shown on this episode. Not a very good one though.
PS: This is my 666 post :o Be Afraid Be Very Afraid
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Perhaps this episode is just setting the stage for what comes next: the next showing of LBT on YTV will have two episodes back to back; just check the website. Maybe it will be a two-part episode, or else be two closely related episodes.
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That would be so cool, NoName! I hope it's true! *crosses fingers!*
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Just check the website and go to the scheduale section. It's on Friday, February 16th, 12:00 p.m -12:30 p.m., and 12:30 p.m. - 1:00 p.m. And at 1:00 p.m., they will show the sixth movie.
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You know, as I was working on the song lyrics, I came up with a little theory as to why Rhette made up all of those stories. He likes Ali, and I mean "like" like. I think Rhette has a crush on Ali.
It is often known in relationships that guys make up stories to impress a girl that they have a crush on. Do you think this might be part of the plot of the next episode somehow?
Of course, if my theory is true, I wonder how Littlefoot would react. I mean, you all know my perspective on the Littlefoot and Ali relationship, right? ;) Love triangle plot developing in my head here. :^.^:
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Interiguing theory. I believe that something like this happened in the moive "Bambi", where Bambi met Faline for the second time, a long time after they had first met. Anyway, by that time, Faline was being courted by another male named Ronno, who challenged Bambi to a fight, in which Bambi won. What most people don't remember that Bambi has violence in it, or that Faline was Bambi's first cousin, or that he had children with her at the end of the movie. If i'm not mistaken, Littlefoot and Ali are cousins as well, although they are probably fourth cousins; Littlefoot's grandparents mentioned that the Old One's herd was made up of their cousins, which would place them at least a generation apart, and with Littlefoot being two generations apart from his grandparents, and Ali being one generation down from her mother (who, if the idea holds, is a cousin of Littlefoot's grandparents), this would mean that Littlefoot and Ali are at least fourth cousins, but only if the assumptions are true. Also, the fight in question happened when Bambi, Faline, and Ronno were nearly adults; a similar occurence wouldn't happen for years in LBT, as the characters are much too young to be thinking about...
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I think you misinterpreted the word "cousins". Many people say that monkeys are our distant cousins, that doesn't exactly mean we're related :D
In lbt 4, grandpa used the word "cousins" just to explain to Littlefoot that they're from the same species and should be greeted like family.
You know, as I was working on the song lyrics, I came up with a little theory as to why Rhette made up all of those stories. He likes Ali, and I mean "like" like. I think Rhette has a crush on Ali.
It is often known in relationships that guys make up stories to impress a girl that they have a crush on. Do you think this might be part of the plot of the next episode somehow?
Of course, if my theory is true, I wonder how Littlefoot would react. I mean, you all know my perspective on the Littlefoot and Ali relationship, right? wink.gif Love triangle plot developing in my head here. happy.gif
I thought of that two, Rhette's in for a hard time, whatever happens, I hope Littlefoot "wins" in the end =P
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I think you misinterpreted the word "cousins". Many people say that monkeys are our distant cousins, that doesn't exactly mean we're related :D
In lbt 4, grandpa used the word "cousins" just to explain to Littlefoot that they're from the same species and should be greeted like family.
You know, as I was working on the song lyrics, I came up with a little theory as to why Rhette made up all of those stories. He likes Ali, and I mean "like" like. I think Rhette has a crush on Ali.
It is often known in relationships that guys make up stories to impress a girl that they have a crush on. Do you think this might be part of the plot of the next episode somehow?
Of course, if my theory is true, I wonder how Littlefoot would react. I mean, you all know my perspective on the Littlefoot and Ali relationship, right? wink.gif Love triangle plot developing in my head here. happy.gif
I thought of that two, Rhette's in for a hard time, whatever happens, I hope Littlefoot "wins" in the end =P
Be that though it may, Ali still bears a striking resemblence to Littlefoot, so much so, that Ducky actually got them confused from a distance in the fourth movie.
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Hmm... there's that, still I dought it.
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Why? Is it so inconcievable that two herds can be related? Besides, I seem to remember that special cleaning measures (fourth movie) were taken to welcome this particular herd, measures which weren't taken with the visit of any other herd in the series. The Old One and Littlefoot's grandmother even look somewhat similar. Additionally, the herd is repeatedly referred to as "our cousins", not just once, which seems to indicate some kind of actual relationship.
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Well I've known love relationships to develop even from ones that are blood related. Marriages of a brother and a sister and starting a family of their own, all coming out of love. If it can happen with a brother and a sister, why not cousins.
There are some, like me, who can see it happen.
Besides that, there are even love wars in between kids as young as 5. (Last I've checked. It could be younger by now.) Though such wars can be rather interesting with one's so young. :)
I would not be one bit surprised if there's a love war going on in the next upcoming two episodes. :^.^:
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That's right... Rhett did seem to take a sort of... traditional view of Ali; he wanted to play rescue at least once, with Ali as the damsel in distress. Not that there's anything morally corrupt about that. Some of the best stories ever told have been about DiD's. Anyway, Littlefoot seems to be less conventional; the very group he's in is unconventional, even though it is still moral and good. This could lead to a divergence between Littlefoot and Rhett, with each viewing Ali in a different way (note that the show does make a point of showing Rhett wanting to play rescue at least twice in a row, with Ali getting tired of it.)
With a divergence of though comes conflict, and that's what drama is all about.
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One more thing: Did anyone notice that this episode had the meeting of Roy Allen Smith's two most important characters? Both Ali and Chomper have had a significant impact on the series, far more so than most of Charles Grosvenor's characters. In fact, most of the characters that he introduced were useful for only one movie (Doc, the Rainbowfaces, Pterano, etc), and are unlikely to return. It wasn't until Bron was introduced that we saw anyone with huge significance, and it wasn't until Tria, Tricia, and later Ruby that we would see any character with permanent status. As it is, Chomper and Ali are characters whose importance is second only to that of the original five, and any meeting between them only existed in fanfiction... until now.
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Yup,but I didn't liek the way they didn't explore that. In most fanfictions when Ali meets Chomper there's all this subsequent action, that turns the story interesting.
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Yup,but I didn't liek the way they didn't explore that. In most fanfictions when Ali meets Chomper there's all this subsequent action, that turns the story interesting.
That's true. One fine example is Malte's "The Cold Time", where even after saving her from Ozzy, she was still reluctant from being his friend.
To be honest, I expecting something quite different to happen when she found out that her own friends were friends with a sharptooth.
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Well, Ali appears to be gone once again, not making an appearance in either of the two new episodes.
Rhett and the rest of Ali's herd seems to have moved on once again.
I'll be posting the next two episodes, 8 and 9, up within the next hour. I'm uploading 8 and compressing 9 right now.
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Dang! Well, I hope that she is still in the valley, and just isn't shown for the time being. If what we saw in the previous episode was the last time we will ever see Ali (I doubt it), it would be very disappointing.
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I agree, but there was no indication of her herd leaving, these episodes probably just had different plots that didn't need Ali, there's also the earlier episode thing. Myabe Ali's Return was supposed to air only this week.
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Hmm... It's possible that we will have to reorder our episodes in the future... still, I believe that episodes 3-8 are in the correct order, and that the possibility that we will see Ali again in a couple of weeks is still strong.
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Let's hope you're right. I wonder if the DVD version of the series will have multi-languages.
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I'd want actual extras as opposed to multiple languages. A "Making Of...". A tutorial on how to draw that gang. Storyboards. A voice recording session. Dropped concepts. A commentary. ANYTHING!
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I'd want actual extras as opposed to multiple languages. A "Making Of...". A tutorial on how to draw that gang. Storyboards. A voice recording session. Dropped concepts. A commentary. ANYTHING!
Amen! :D :lol
That is the area that LBT has lacked since day one: Official information regarding the series.
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I was just watching the LBT 12 trailer and couldn't help but notice that the scenes from the TV series are the ones from this weeks episode 9. If that is really the first episode of the series then it lacks a lot of important information.
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I agree. But it isn't necessarily the case that that episode was indeed the first. Even if it was, we will probably get some more back story later; in episode 3, we received some back story about Ruby's "mission" and how Chomper and Ruby came to be in the valley. Perhaps we will see how Chomper and Ruby met the original five.
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I'm glad that Ali has returned, although. from what I've read, it was disappointing. Like Noname, I believe that Littlefoot and Ali are related, either third or fourth cousins, and I expected Ali to be similar to the girl longneck we all loved in LBT 4, instead they dumbed her down a bit. The LBT 4 Ali would not have been as gullible and reuniting with Littlefoot and His friends would have caused her great joy. We'll haver to see if Ali's return was a one-off, I hope not...
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Could one of you guys post a pic of her from the episode and post one next to it of her from lbt 4? That way I can see what she looks like...
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A number of new episodes and still no Ali again. What, no goodbye episode for us Ali fans? Is Universal getting lazy in these episodes?
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A number of new episodes and still no Ali again. What, no goodbye episode for us Ali fans? Is Universal getting lazy in these episodes?
:cry :cry :cry Darn you Universal!!
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I noticed it, but there is another possible thing, she could be hanging around the valley and they not seeing her around for a few of them and then she appears in another episode or two, I just don't really know what they playing at. But I seen something like this happen a few times in other series, where a old long lost friend stays at the end then not there in the next.
Another idea is they gone to play and the next episode based a few days or weeks afterwards or the episodes are not in sequel at all. It could be that Ali wil make another appence :) who knows what happens.
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In My mind they should just have added her into the group. That would bring it to 8 by my calculations. Ruby really hasn't established herself as "one of the gang' yet to me...Chomper goes way back with the gang, so I could see him in there. Bringing Ali in would allow her to flesh out her backstory-what happened s\after LBT4- how she met rhette.. etc..
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But that would put two Sauropods in the group, three if Rhett is included. That seems to be unbalanced.
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Rhette would not be included, just Ali... Besides, having in her would bring it to an even number, and it would make the number of boys and girls even at 4 apiece
Boys: Littlefoot, Petrie, Chomper Spike
Girls: Ali, Cera, Duckie, Ruby
Currently there are more boys than girls.
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I would have loved to have Ali in the gang. It was one of my dreams to have Ali and Littlefoot in the same gang in the TV series. Maybe when Chomper and Ruby leave the Great Valley Ali will become the sixth member of the group. What I can dream can't I?
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Chomper and Ruby aren't going to leave the valley though, they seem anchored in as members of the 'gang'...
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I was excited too, I hope it's not the last time, this wasn't the greatest, but it was at least her return :D but i certainly hope they have her again, I prefer the old voice though
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Ali sucked in this ep. Universal sure hates us, don't they? It's like they knew how much we were looking forward to seeing her again and completely trashed her... <_<
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I don't think they made her this way because they "hate the LBT fans". My guess it was a completely new set of writers and it had been so long, so they weren't sure how to portray her.
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Yes, it always sucks having new writers. Have any of you seen "Suburgatory"? Season 1 was great, but season 2 mostly stinks, and my mom theorizes it's because of the new writers. I hope they fire them for season 3 :exactly
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I don't think it always sucks to have new writers. And I definitely don't want anyone to get fired over something like this. :neutral Perhaps just hope that they will learn to get a better handle on writing the characters instead.
On a slightly interesting note, when I was a kid I really wanted Ali to make her return, but as the sequels went on she never showed up and that kinda annoyed me. Then by the time the writers actually put her in an episode of the show I had completely lost interest in seeing her.
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I don't think they made her this way because they "hate the LBT fans". My guess it was a completely new set of writers and it had been so long, so they weren't sure how to portray her.
Me too but did you know that Ali appeared on the film of Land Before Time 4: Journey Through The Mists?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Befo...rough_the_Mists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Before_Time_IV:_Journey_Through_the_Mists)
She is Littlefoot's cousin, part of Littlefoot's family. :DD :smile :lol :p
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Yeah when I first saw this episode I was like what the heck did they do to her? She was once a decent character now she is a god awful character.
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Yeah when I first saw this episode I was like what the heck did they do to her? She was once a decent character now she is a god awful character.
I know that Ali's mother was with the herd. When Grandpa Longneck was sick, Old One needed to cure him from his illness.
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First I'm happy they brought Ali back but the way they brought her back is a complete fail if you ask me. The ep was more about Rhett than about Ali :(
It seems there isn't any chance for Ali fans like me for another return since LBT studios seems to be closed :cry
The ep itself was good somehow :blink:
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I thought the episode wasn't good at all. I thought some parts where okay others made me wanna shut my T.V. off back than but didn't I stuck through the 30 minutes of pain. Ali in movie four was awesome at first she was a bit racist and mean towards Little Foot's Friends because they where different from her but she managed to not be racist and accept all the different kinds of dinosaurs. In the episode god help me. She was totally different and to em was very annoying.
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I hated how gullible they made Ali in the TV series, and now I wish they had never made her return. When it said at the end of the fourth movie that the gang would meet Ali again, I was hoping for her return, but this disappointed me. It wasn't really centred around Ali's return at all, but she just seemed to be a mere plot device for Rhett, who is just a complete... ugh.
The lack of excitement from the rest of the gang also surprised me. My mum just texted me saying that she had just met my old school teacher in the pub, and I nearly screamed with happiness! I don't get why the rest of the gang went straight into plotting against Rhett rather than showing some happiness about Ali's return, or even going to greet her.
I didn't hate this episode, but I didn't like it much, either. There was so much more that could have been done with the story. They could have focused a bit more into Ali actually reuniting with the whole gang, and personally, I would have liked to see a little bit of interaction between the Old One and Littlefoot's Grandparents, too. Well, it seems that the grown ups never really played much of a big role in the TV series anyway.
Another complaint about Ali's character... she went from not accepting different kinds of dinosaurs at all to accepting them too quickly. I agree with a lot of members here who have said that she should have been more reluctant to be friends with Chomper especially. I think this would have made the story more interesting and may have made more sense with Ali's character.
That's about all I have to say on the matter for now. Overall, not a great episode in my opinion. And BOY are Ali's eyes blue?! :blink:
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I guess they could have done it so much better at all in the Tv- series... The ep should have been a whole movie... maybe someone can write a fanfiction about that... I would, but... uhm... that'd be too much work atm :smile
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I'd love to see that as well. And if you do i'd read it and support it. The episode could have been a lot better but wasn't.