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Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => The Arts => Attic Treasures => Topic started by: Amaranthine on March 07, 2010, 01:35:16 AM

Title: Dracula
Post by: Amaranthine on March 07, 2010, 01:35:16 AM
Pretty much most of the English speaking world knows about this story, either has read it or heard of it at least.

If you read it, what did you think of it? If you haven't read it, would you like to read it? :)

I REALLY liked the book myself. Full of metaphors, symbolism, the characters were so human and it made you believe they were REAL human beings. Van Helsing was definitely my favorite character. He was such an oddball and he really got my belief of life right on the mark. I didn't care for the ending, and all the shunning of old world pagan stuff and I thought it was a pretty odd way to end the story, still I loved it all regardless. :D

I must say though, it Bram Stoker was alive now, he would be horrified by how the vampire has evolved in human kind's mind and of course with the dreaded.......dare I say it.......




















TWILIGHT...SERIES




Title: Dracula
Post by: Ptyra on March 07, 2010, 01:37:59 AM
I tried to read it last year, but I had a "woooaaah" moment...it was the UNabridged version.

I'd say vampires would still be better if they weren't sexual images. They aren't sexy period...they're corpses. Which means they'd be bloated and icky with flesh falling off  :p .

Other than that, Stoker's presentation is definitely the best.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Kor on March 07, 2010, 01:47:46 AM
I listened to an uncut version of the book years ago.  A better view then having vampires as being sexy.  Never understood that myself.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Nick22 on March 07, 2010, 02:42:25 AM
i think rather than having vampires be sexy..it is the immortality that attracts us.. vampires live for centuries.. as for Dracula, Stoker combined the stories about Vlad Tepes the Impaler and Elizabeth Bathory, who bathed in the blood in her victims and is said to have killed 800 girls... to create Dracula, who has becoming, obviously the most famous vampire in history..I have the book, and have read it several times..
Title: Dracula
Post by: Amaranthine on March 07, 2010, 01:31:19 PM
Well the thing with vampires, at least, how Bram Stoker presents them, they are basically symbols of everything that mankind was against and strived to not be. They were the antichrists, the seductive tempters of people. "Sexy" might not be the best word for these creatures, but they did have to be in some way persuasive in order to have control over people.

My two cents on the "sexy vampire" thing.

Title: Dracula
Post by: Kor on March 07, 2010, 03:33:32 PM
Some do find them sexy, I've no idea why.  

I've seen the original Nosferatu, which is on youtube and to my knowledge in the public domain.  It is basically the Dracula novel, with some names changed.  Though it was not licensed from Stoker's widow, which is what got the film in trouble.  

Many know of Dracula likely due to the famous film starling Lugosi, I think is how his name is spelled, & or the Hammer Dracula films.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Nick22 on March 08, 2010, 12:33:34 PM
yes the Dracula starring Lugosi was 1931. the Hammer films starred Christopher Lee, the first of which came out in 1958. and of course there are myraid vampire films, from Dracula's daughter to Twilight to pradoies like Dracula-Dead and Loving it.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Kor on March 08, 2010, 02:35:00 PM
I've seen some of those films you mentioned, though no recent one.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Nick22 on March 08, 2010, 03:28:46 PM
Bram Stokers Dracula and Interview with a Vampire are good..
Title: Dracula
Post by: Kor on March 08, 2010, 03:37:58 PM
I've read interview, but have not seen the movie.  

Not sure if I read Dracula, but I have listened to an unabridged version of the book quite some time ago.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Nick22 on March 09, 2010, 12:26:14 AM
i recommend you read it kor.
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Post by: Kor on March 09, 2010, 02:21:34 AM
The Dracula book you mean?
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Post by: Nick22 on March 10, 2010, 11:10:43 AM
yep.. it has truly become a classic.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Kor on March 10, 2010, 12:20:09 PM
I may try reading it at some point.  Forgot about it.  Lots of good public domain books to read.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Nick22 on March 10, 2010, 12:31:36 PM
of the characters in dracula which is your favorite?
Title: Dracula
Post by: Kor on March 10, 2010, 01:13:02 PM
I don't really remember much of the characters to well.  How about you?
Title: Dracula
Post by: Nick22 on March 10, 2010, 01:47:54 PM
iwas asking generally.. mine's van helsing..
Title: Dracula
Post by: Kor on March 10, 2010, 07:07:14 PM
The doctor guy?
Title: Dracula
Post by: Saft on March 22, 2010, 01:44:43 PM
Stoker's Dracula is one of those must read classics.  Compared to the usual drivel of novels that involve those blood sucking monsters, Dracula was one of those novels where the vampires are portrayed as something that is completely and utterly what human kind should be fighting against; ie the evil sins.   As a result the vampires weren't ''sexy'' in their appeal.  It was their power and immortality that invigarated the humans.  

As for the other novels in which vampires are portrayed as ''sexy'' 'villains', I can't really say.  I've only read (at the insistance of my sister) the first book of Twillight.  If Stoker was alive today I think he would be sick with the sparkly vampires.  

There is something really wrong about sparkly vampires....






Title: Dracula
Post by: Kor on March 22, 2010, 10:24:11 PM
& Dracula is free to download, & libravox has it in an audiobook free to download.  

Also the silent movie nosferatu has non sexy vampires, and the vampire does not look sexy even, icky.  

I never understood why so many see vampires as sexy.
Title: Dracula
Post by: kanganix on March 23, 2010, 02:08:29 AM
He is like a version on a game call castelvaina or not  :DD ^^
Title: Dracula
Post by: Belmont2500 on March 23, 2010, 09:25:43 PM
It's spelled "Castlevania" actually, and yes that game is based,if not connected to Bram Stoker's Dracula , for example, in Bram Stoker's Dracula there was a character named Quincey Morris who was the love intrest of Lucy, however in the game Castlevania Bloodlines on of the two playable characters was named John Morris, his bio mentions that he is the son of Quincey Morris.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Nick22 on August 13, 2010, 08:53:02 PM
dracyula set the standard for vampires, even now.. twilight doesn't rank as true vampire fiction, but is more about teenage agnst personified.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Kor on August 13, 2010, 09:49:52 PM
While he wasn't the first vampire to appear in written works, he was the first to hit it big and become very popular.
Title: Dracula
Post by: Nick22 on August 13, 2010, 10:01:20 PM
yes there were books before dracula - vampyr and carmilitta among others, dracula  was the first film about a vampiere to  majke it bigh with spoken dialogue