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Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 09, 2007, 07:46:58 PM
Discuss any aspect of the 'Zelda' series as you wish here. Let's get this ball rolling, and...*ahem* (calms himself) well, enjoy.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Flathead770 on August 13, 2007, 03:02:57 AM
Lets get some posts going here. What is your favorite Zelda game and why? I think that my favorite would be Zelda: TP because its way bigger then Ocarina of Time, and had a lot of cool ideas, like the iron boots sticking to magnets, and some cool items later on that i don't want to mention in case someone here hasn't beaten the game yet, Horseback battles, and a Water Temple that didn't rely on getting a million keys.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Manny Cav on August 13, 2007, 09:11:34 AM
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past is the only Zelda game I have. It is still one of my all-time favorite video games.

I have actually played the original game, but it was a borrowed copy from someone at a school I used to go to. It, too, was a fun game.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Flathead770 on August 13, 2007, 02:06:11 PM
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I have actually played the original game
Ya me too, though i've never beaten it. I think i made it to the 5th or 6th dungeon, thats when it starts to really pick up in difficulty. I enjoy Zelda II then the first one, though its still really hard, it seems more possible for me.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: The Great Valley Guardian on August 13, 2007, 02:12:42 PM
My personal fav of the Zelda series would have to be Ocrina of Time...but my biggest problem was getting all the keys in the stupid forest temple! :angry: It really drove me crazy, till a friend of mine stepped in and beat it for me in like twenety minutes... :blink: needless to say I was pissed, but I got over it and finally beat the game...
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Flathead770 on August 13, 2007, 02:34:53 PM
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but my biggest problem was getting all the keys in the stupid forest temple!
I had the same problem, except that i couldn't find them in the Water Temple. Even now when i play the game i always forget where one of the keys are. I don't play Ocarina of Time anymore, instead i play Ocarina of Time: Master Quest, it offers a way bigger challenge for the Zelda players that want a harder game. In fact, I might change my mind and switch my favorite to Master Quest because of the harder dungeons.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 13, 2007, 10:49:15 PM
Now we're getting somewhere!  B)

My favorite Zelda games would have to be (I can never name a sinle favorite for anything) the original, "A Link to the Past", "Ocarina of Time", and "Twilight Princess".

Why? Well, I love the original because...well, we wouldn't the rest of the series without it. Ocarina of Time, because...its the first Zelda 3D game allowing you maximum freedom and explains how everything in the series came to be, with  the story,itself, bordering on epic in proportions. Twilight Princess, a welcome return to form after a whole line of nothing but disappointments after the "Oracles" dualogy.

Just about everything released on the series from 2000 to 2004 were just plain pathetic, mainly due to overly easy games, featuring less than impressive villains. Its like Nintendo forgot the dynamics of story-telling. Rule #1: In any story, the side of good needs strong opposition to get it going. Vaati and the tragic hero version of Ganon we see in "The Wind Waker" just don't cut it. Now, Ganon in the first five games, and in "Twilight Princess"...now that's evil!
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 13, 2007, 10:59:45 PM
I've only ever played A Link To The Past. I've played through it about 3 times. I did enjoy it.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Manny Cav on August 13, 2007, 11:08:17 PM
I've played it through a couple of times, myself. I had the beatenest time trying to figure out how to get that red boomerang, though. I did eventually figured out. What I never figured out, though, was where all of the red heart pieces were. I had to go to GameFAQs to find out. :unsure:
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Flathead770 on August 14, 2007, 02:38:08 AM
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Rule #1: In any story, the side of good needs strong opposition to get it going
Saving your sister isn't a good enough reason to fight? Both Wind Waker and Twilight Princess start off the same in the way of trying to save someone that gets kidnapped. I like Wind Wakers story with the mystery of what happened to Hyrule and i am looking forward to the direct sequel of Wind Waker, "The Phantom Hourglass" on the DS. But i do agree on you with the lack of diffuculty. Thats why i enjoy Master Quest so much.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 14, 2007, 04:34:02 AM
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Saving your sister isn't a good enough reason to fight?
I where the hell did you get that crap?! I didn't say anything about Link's motives. I was talking about the sad, sad, sorry state of Ganon and his crew in "The Wind Waker" and complete incompetence of Vaati.

Read this review, it speaks my views of the truly wretched game that is "The Wind Waker" perfectly: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/review/R51711.html (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/review/R51711.html)

Besides that, the game was lazily made. Shigeru Miyamoto, the once genius behind all of Nintendo's greatest hits, now a complete dumbass, cut off the gamemakers' time and budget to get it released sooner. Guess what? The ridiculous, repitive, and downright stupid treasure hunt on the ocean to hunt down the Triforce of Courage shards? Those were all supposed to be individual dungeons. Yeah, that's right. They cheated us!
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on August 14, 2007, 12:20:29 PM
Well, the truth of the matter, WR, is that Eiji Aonuma was the director of the Zelda series since Majora's Mask.  I must admit that his games weren't as good as Orcrina of Time, that is until Twilight Princess came.

It definately earned the right to be 2006 Game of the Year.  There's no doubt that it deserved to win what it did. :^.^:

We especially get to see how EVIL Ganon is in Twilight Princess.  There were just a number of things he did that were just SICK!  That's the kind of thing I like to see in a villian, true evil. :^.^:
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 14, 2007, 05:28:32 PM
:lol: Aounuma may be the director, but Miyamoto still writes the stories of the series, he's the executive producer, and he controls what's done with all the budget. Aounuma just places the camera. No, I put the blame on Miyamoto entirely. The only reason he made "Twilight Princess" was because it was fans that had to remind him just what Zelda is supposed to be. If only if only George Lucas could take a hint as well.

Still, Miyamoto did (finally) redeem what he did to us throughout most of the 2000s with TP.

Oh yeah. I definitely just loved what they did with the villains in TP. Zant was appropriately psychotic! And Ganon was just as much of a megaegomaniac as he ever was!  :lol:  I also loved Link's newest (and quirkiest) sidekick!
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Flathead770 on August 15, 2007, 03:29:31 AM
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I where the hell did you get that crap?! I didn't say anything about Link's motives. I was talking about the sad, sad, sorry state of Ganon and his crew in "The Wind Waker" and complete incompetence of Vaati.
I'm sorry i misread what you posted. But now that you mention it. Ganon didn't seem to have that evil badass nature in Wind Waker that he has in Twilight Princess or in previous games like Ocarina and Link to the Past. I got really exited when i first saw Ganondorf in TP when hes on his horse with the flames in the backround.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 15, 2007, 07:07:32 AM
Ick. Ever reread what you've written and had an eye sore because of it? That's me right about now, seeing my quote on your post.

Yep. That's what I meant, alright. Ganon, sadly, seems to be the only one in all of TWW whose remotely interested in undoing the damage done to the world at large, and we're supposed to kill him? Man, I'd be over to the dark side so fast in the TWW setting!

Oh yeah, seeing a classic video gam villain like Ganon look cool on a horse high-lighted by flames gets the blood pumping.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: landbeforetimelover on August 15, 2007, 07:16:01 AM
I played the game boy game and was unimpressed.  I liked the orcana of time or whatever it was called.  I haven't played a game on a console for about 7 years now.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Flathead770 on August 16, 2007, 12:44:57 AM
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I played the game boy game and was unimpressed.
I never really liked the handheld games too much though some aren't too horrible. For me, they're there as a filler to keep me occupied until a better game comes out.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Manny Cav on August 16, 2007, 12:46:12 AM
I like a lot of hand-held games! They don't all whomp.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Flathead770 on August 16, 2007, 12:55:57 AM
Quote from: Manny Cav,Aug 15 2007 on  11:46 PM
I like a lot of hand-held games! They don't all whomp.
I said they're not ALL horrible though. The games always seem to have the dullest storylines of the series and i don't think i've liked any of the villains on the handheld.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 16, 2007, 03:00:47 AM
That's probably due to having the technology to make a game for handhelds being more limited than console games. Most handheld games (other than ports for previous systems) are usually more simple than the console games. I imagine that there's more to it than handhelds just not being the main mainstream systems.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Keni on August 19, 2007, 09:59:45 PM
I have enjoyed every single Legend of Zelda game I've played. The series is just awesome and epic. Every game of the series is just a masterpiece.

I thought Wind Waker was pretty good, the story was dark and I liked the treasure hunting although tedious for the Triforce pieces. Ganon already flooded Hyrule due to his wrath and he was looking for the rest of the Triforce pieces to bring Hyrule back and continue with his evil intentions. He was pretty evil enough to me in WW. He was just in a downtime while searching for the remaining Triforce pieces. It just doesn't seem worth it spreading unspeakable evil on a series of small puny islands when you can raise your own land to rule over from literally under the ocean by just finding two pieces and making a wish.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 21, 2007, 06:00:02 PM
You still make it sound liek Ganon is the only one trying to save the world, Keni. No, the story was crap. The villain should not be one of the people trying to fix what damage was done.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Keni on August 21, 2007, 06:21:17 PM
I don't get what you mean by being the only one trying to save the world. Nobody knew about Hyrule being underwater, and even if they did how would they bring it up or something? They were just living their lives as always in their islands.

Ganon wasn't trying to fix something. Far from it. His power was bound by the Master Sword, he wanted the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda for power. It was pure coincidence he also found the Triforce of Courage.

His interest was also to raise Hyrule and make it his kingdom. His idea of a kingdom is him ruling over it and having it full of monsters wreaking havoc, not exactly a way to 'fix 'the damage.

No, he wasn't aiming to save or fix the world, he wanted to make it worse. It was bad enough being isolated on little islands, it would be pure living hell having a world completely filled to the bone with monsters running around ruling the lands and having an evil king to boot. In short words, it'll be Ocarina of Time Future Hyrule all over again, and we know how horrible that future was the moment we set foot on it as Adult Link.

It's been a long time since I last played Wind Waker, and this debate is making me want to play it again. I apologize if I'm forgetting something about the plot, this is from pure memory.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 22, 2007, 04:22:21 PM
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I don't get what you mean by being the only one trying to save the world. Nobody knew about Hyrule being underwater, and even if they did how would they bring it up or something? They were just living their lives as always in their islands.
Ah, so by your argument, you're saying that the people of Hyrule were a bunch of illiterate morons who just might need a tyrant to rule over them to get their rears in gear again, as they obviously lowered the standards of their quality of living.

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Ganon wasn't trying to fix something. Far from it. His power was bound by the Master Sword, he wanted the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda for power. It was pure coincidence he also found the Triforce of Courage.
I call causing the flood waters to receed so that everyone can live on land again fixing it. He was the only one in the entire game who showed any interest in doing that. He, at least, had a goal, unlike everyone else int he game.

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His interest was also to raise Hyrule and make it his kingdom. His idea of a kingdom is him ruling over it and having it full of monsters wreaking havoc, not exactly a way to 'fix 'the damage.
At least it'd be a continent of firm ground again. Besides, he can just be overthrown later.

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No, he wasn't aiming to save or fix the world, he wanted to make it worse. It was bad enough being isolated on little islands, it would be pure living hell having a world completely filled to the bone with monsters running around ruling the lands and having an evil king to boot. In short words, it'll be Ocarina of Time Future Hyrule all over again, and we know how horrible that future was the moment we set foot on it as Adult Link.
No, he was trying to save the world. He even passed up on just about every chance to kill Link and Zelda throughout all the game. And there is no way the world could get worse at that point. Yes, I know how horrible the "Ocarina of Time" future was. Link actually had a mission objective to fulfill there. If I were Link in "The Wind Waker", I'd have been over to the dark side so fast the instant I realized that I'd been screwed out of a world of land.

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It's been a long time since I last played Wind Waker, and this debate is making me want to play it again. I apologize if I'm forgetting something about the plot, this is from pure memory.
Don't bother!
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Post by: Keni on August 22, 2007, 05:50:19 PM
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Ah, so by your argument, you're saying that the people of Hyrule were a bunch of illiterate morons who just might need a tyrant to rule over them to get their rears in gear again, as they obviously lowered the standards of their quality of living.

Um, don't put words in my mouth, I never said anything to that extent. The Flooding disaster happened years ago, the land of Hyrule was laid forgotten so deep in the ocean it was practically impossible to find by the means they had. The people in this game are descendants from the ones who survived the flooding, most of them forgot or haven't heard of the legend to know about Hyrule being somewhere underwater.

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I call causing the flood waters to receed so that everyone can live on land again fixing it. He was the only one in the entire game who showed any interest in doing that. He, at least, had a goal, unlike everyone else int he game.

Again, we are dealing with the DESCENDANTS of the people of Hyrule. The flood happened YEARS ago, by the time Wind Waker took place everyone thought of the land of Hyrule AND the flood as a legend and nothing more. So basically if they go underwater they'll find nothing most probably due to the magical barrier surrounding Hyrule, making it invisible for everyone.

Really, if they can't see or find Hyrule underwater, how can they receed the flood. With what means too?

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At least it'd be a continent of firm ground again. Besides, he can just be overthrown later.

And how do you know he'll be overthrown? If Link failed in Wind Waker and the entire Triforce goes to Ganon then they'd be pretty much screwed. Sure, maybe centuries later another Link will be born or the Gods come back to do something about it, that is IF by that time the world will still be inhabitable with all the demons and monsters.

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No, he was trying to save the world. He even passed up on just about every chance to kill Link and Zelda throughout all the game. And there is no way the world could get worse at that point. Yes, I know how horrible the "Ocarina of Time" future was. Link actually had a mission objective to fulfill there. If I were Link in "The Wind Waker", I'd have been over to the dark side so fast the instant I realized that I'd been screwed out of a world of land.

If he killed Link and Zelda before he'd take away the Triforce pieces from them, then he'd lose the pieces too until who knows when.

And yes, the world could've been much worse than the way it was in Wind Waker. At least the people were HAPPY. Seriously, I'd choose to live on those islands than have Hyrule come up and be at the mercy of monsters and an Evil King who can kill every single person in Hyrule by just looking at them.

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Don't bother!

Oh, I WILL. I like the game and I don't need someone else to tell me to not play a game just because he didn't like it. I respect your opinion if you like the game or not, but don't tell me to not bother in replaying a game that I like.

Anyway, I end my posts about Wind Waker here, I already said what I remember about the game and got no more to say. I can't change someone's opinion and look on the game, and I'm not trying to.
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Post by: DarkHououmon on August 22, 2007, 06:42:15 PM
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Oh, I WILL. I like the game and I don't need someone else to tell me to not play a game just because he didn't like it. I respect your opinion if you like the game or not, but don't tell me to not bother in replaying a game that I like.

I have to agree with Keni on this one, WR. You may not like the game, however, you cannot tell him he cannot play the game. It's his choice, not yours.

Anyway, I think I have played a tiny bit of Wind Waker, but I didn't like the controls so I stopped playing. The only Zelda game I played that I have a real opinion on is Link to the Past, which was pretty good in my opinion.
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Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 23, 2007, 12:33:17 AM
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Um, don't put words in my mouth, I never said anything to that extent. The Flooding disaster happened years ago, the land of Hyrule was laid forgotten so deep in the ocean it was practically impossible to find by the means they had. The people in this game are descendants from the ones who survived the flooding, most of them forgot or haven't heard of the legend to know about Hyrule being somewhere underwater.
Yeah, right, like I'm going to believe that noone wrote about it and put it in textbooks that they'd likely read in school. Sorru, but that argument doesn't fly at all.

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Again, we are dealing with the DESCENDANTS of the people of Hyrule. The flood happened YEARS ago, by the time Wind Waker took place everyone thought of the land of Hyrule AND the flood as a legend and nothing more. So basically if they go underwater they'll find nothing most probably due to the magical barrier surrounding Hyrule, making it invisible for everyone.

Really, if they can't see or find Hyrule underwater, how can they receed the flood. With what means too?
No, we are dealing with the people of Hyrule, no matter where they live.

Anyway, there would have been historical texts pertaining to the events, so basically, yeah, Ganon was doing the world a favor this time.

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And how do you know he'll be overthrown? If Link failed in Wind Waker and the entire Triforce goes to Ganon then they'd be pretty much screwed. Sure, maybe centuries later another Link will be born or the Gods come back to do something about it, that is IF by that time the world will still be inhabitable with all the demons and monsters.
Ganon had the entire Triforce in "A Link to the Past" and still lost. Ganon would lose, otherwise there's be no series.

If he killed Link and Zelda before he'd take away the Triforce pieces from them, then he'd lose the pieces too until who knows when.

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And yes, the world could've been much worse than the way it was in Wind Waker. At least the people were HAPPY. Seriously, I'd choose to live on those islands than have Hyrule come up and be at the mercy of monsters and an Evil King who can kill every single person in Hyrule by just looking at them.
Yeah, but he didn't even kill them after he got his hands on the Triforce pieces, so my argument still holds.

And I'd rather live on a contenent under ant conditions than on an island. Sharks and all manner of sea creatures roaming the oceans is no different than Big Poes roaming the fields.

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Oh, I WILL. I like the game and I don't need someone else to tell me to not play a game just because he didn't like it. I respect your opinion if you like the game or not, but don't tell me to not bother in replaying a game that I like.
That was a recommendation. Not an order.  

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I have to agree with Keni on this one, WR. You may not like the game, however, you cannot tell him he cannot play the game. It's his choice, not yours.
Oh, bite me!
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Post by: action9000 on August 23, 2007, 03:01:55 AM
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Oh, bite me!
This is as close to harrassment as I need to see. :mad   Look for a PM.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Weather_lord_7 on August 23, 2007, 12:17:01 PM
Zelda's one of the best games to ever be played. I remember playing Link to the Past as a kid and never putting it down. Ahhh, memories. At least ol' Link's in SSB, and he rules in it. :D
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Post by: Littlefoot1616 on August 23, 2007, 07:52:12 PM
Zelda was one of the very first RPG's I got into and I'm glad I did :D. I didn't really think much of Zelda in its golden days (I still had my Sega Megadrive blinkers on at that age :lol ). Ocarina of Time for the N64 was the first one I got into and I loved it. From there, between me and my brother, we invested in the backlogs and caught up with the entire series from the beginning. A Link to the Past was my fav Zelda for Gameboy. I can't say I clicked too well with Majora's Mask...I admired the OOT mechanics transferred into a new Zelda scenario but I can't say it blew me away as much as its precedesor.

I guess I may be treading on thin ice when I say that I am one of the few that actually enjoyed the cel-shaded styled Wind Waker. Despite the heavy amount of stick it received, I thought the story was great because of how it tied itself in to OTT. Admitingly the cartoony style was a bit of a disturbance at times but I played it through regardless moreso as a lover of the series than a critic. As for Twilight Princess...i never thought OOT could be topped in my mind but TP did it for me. I thought it was a lot "darker" for a Zelda game but still, it lived up to all my expectations and exceled them :) I guess, the next one to look forward to is the Phantom Hourglass on DS...from what I've heard it's all positive so far so I have high hopes ;) (despite not owning a DS  :lol )
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Post by: Manny Cav on August 23, 2007, 08:01:35 PM
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A Link to the Past was my fav Zelda for Gameboy.
It's SNES. A Link to the Past was first released on the SNES, then I think it was re-released on the Game Boy Advance.
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Post by: Littlefoot1616 on August 23, 2007, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav,Aug 23 2007 on  07:01 PM
A Link to the Past was first released on the SNES, then I think it was re-released on the Game Boy Advance.
Beg your pardon...it's not A Link to the Past...it was Link's Awakening I was thinking of. The one with the Wind Fish I think.

That's embarrassing!  :bang  :unsure: And I call myself a LofZ fan!  :lol I throw myself on the mercy of the fan base!!!  :(  :DD
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Post by: Manny Cav on August 23, 2007, 08:10:15 PM
Hahaha, I'm sure it was an easy-to-make honest mistake. Actually, I haven't played hardly any Zelda games at all. I only own A Link to the Past and have played a borrowed copy of the original game from someone at school. However, I still consider A Link to the Past to be one of my all-time favorite games. One of these days, I'll have to think about getting Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on September 12, 2007, 02:04:46 PM
Hey guys, I was checking out one of the issues of Nintendo Power and you wouldn't believe what I found.  In one of the letters a guy gave a strategy of how to make the final part of Ganondorf in Twilight Princess very easy.

As it turns out, the fishing rod you were given at the beginning is key to defeating him.  You see, the bait at the end of the hook tends to put a hypnotic spell on Ganondorf.  He just stands there mesmerised by it.  Now, if you quickly pull out the Master Sword, Ganondorf will still be under the hypnotic spell.  This in turn gives you the chance to quickly attack him with a few blows.  Repeat it, and it'll still work.  This makes an easy end to a boss that was so focused on being particularly hard to beat.  Trust me, the trick totally works.

Also guess what?  Because of this, Nintendo Power recalled all Twilight Princess Player's Guides just to add in this strategy that someone found.  Which might explain why you don't see any at your local video store anymore. :P:
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Post by: Lain_EX on September 12, 2007, 05:20:08 PM
Heh heh! I played almost every Zelda game, except for the Link's Awakening and the Oracle of Ages ones.

If you ask me, the best Zelda game I played to date is that famous N64 Zelda game. Yup, I'm talking about the Ocarina of Time game. One of the most exciting adventures I've ever played (besides Wind Waker & Twilight Princess), but to me, the Ocarina of Time deserves my greatest honoric mention in this here thread. Why?

To start, it was my very first Zelda game I played, although I was starting to enter in the Zelda world, I was excited to finish the game. Then it was a whole challenge to finish all of the temples when Link grows up (it was very difficult to me then :^.^:). Finally when I find myself face to face with the most dreadful villains of all time, yup, it's Ganondorf (I like to call him Ganondork :lol). To be honest, I'd recommend any gamer to play this awesome game. If you didn't play Ocarina of Time, then you didn't live to play any other Zelda games.
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Post by: Keni on September 12, 2007, 06:09:33 PM
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Hey guys, I was checking out one of the issues of Nintendo Power and you wouldn't believe what I found.  In one of the letters a guy gave a strategy of how to make the final part of Ganondorf in Twilight Princess very easy.

As it turns out, the fishing rod you were given at the beginning is key to defeating him.  You see, the bait at the end of the hook tends to put a hypnotic spell on Ganondorf.  He just stands there mesmerised by it.  Now, if you quickly pull out the Master Sword, Ganondorf will still be under the hypnotic spell.  This in turn gives you the chance to quickly attack him with a few blows.  Repeat it, and it'll still work.  This makes an easy end to a boss that was so focused on being particularly hard to beat.  Trust me, the trick totally works.

Also guess what?  Because of this, Nintendo Power recalled all Twilight Princess Player's Guides just to add in this strategy that someone found.  Which might explain why you don't see any at your local video store anymore. :P:
*Snickers* I know of that XD A friend of mine was fighting against Ganondorf and he discovered that little strategy by accident XD

Although either he was slow or wasn't as effective as they make it sound because he couldn't sneak in an easy hit before Ganondorf got to his senses. I find it a bit bizzare that Nintendo Power would recall their strategy guides of Twilight Princess just because of that O.o I don't quite believe that though, since I do see Twilight Princess strategy guides in the stores.
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Post by: Flathead770 on September 13, 2007, 12:23:48 AM
lol i also read about that. Thoguh its just as easy to circle him and slash him when he misses with his kicks, or to just wait till he charges you.

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This makes an easy end to a boss that was so focused on being particularly hard to beat.
Hes not that hard. I've beaten the stage of him in about a min and only getting hit once.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on October 18, 2007, 01:52:20 AM
Okay, I have had the newest Zelda game, Phantom Hourglass, for the last few days, and I'll give how I feel about it so far.

Now, let me start by pointing out that this is a DS game that "abuses" the stylus.  Trying to move around with the control pad won't work.  Why?  Becuase you use the stylus to move.  In fact, the stylus commands the whole game.  The sword, bombs, bow, everything is activated by the stylus.  This kind of control takes some getting used to, but once you get the hang of it, you can move along smoothly in the game.

As I have come to understand it, Phantom Hourglass takes place after Wind Waker.  You, as Link, (Who else did you expect to control? :P:) are sailing along smoothly on Tetra's Ship, when a mysterious Ghost Ship appears.  Believing there's treasure onboard, Tetra boards the ship.  However, the Ghost Ship starts to leave.  You jump as a vain attempt to save her, only to grab onto the edge and slip off, falling into the ocean.  You then later wake up on an island and you have one thing on your mind, saving Tetra.

Just like in Wind Waker, you have to go from island to island and collect the vast items nessacary to beat the evil and save Tetra.

It seems like a nice game so far, but using the stylus so much tends to hurt my hand.  Ignoring the pain isn't easy. -_-

I really do have a problem with how the stylus is being abused of it's use.  What in the world was wrong with using the control pad and buttons?  I really doubt this will get many positive reviews.

The boss battles prove to take quite a bit of strategy to pull off.  You really have to be on your toes in this game, or death is bound to be expected.

Well, that's all I'll say for now about it.

Anyone else here that have played it too? :)
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Manny Cav on October 18, 2007, 09:56:50 AM
It looks like the type of Zelda game I wouldn't like. I've played A Link to the Past and I sure liked it, I've played the originalk and I liked it, and I'm sure I'd like Orcarina of Time or Twilight Princess if I played them, but this doesn't seem to be my type of game. Also, the plot, from what I've heard, sounds errily similar to "Wind Waker".
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Keni on October 18, 2007, 10:39:09 AM
I also have Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, and yes everything is done by touch screen. It takes a little to get used to it, but once you get used to it it's smooth and very responsive. I finished the game and I love it! The game is so clever.

There are puzzles that you have to draw the entire map's outline to solve, draw certain symbols, and even close the DS top lid with your map open to press a symbol into the map (This one took a while for me to solve XD)

Gotta love Nintendo for their cleverness and uniqueness.

Actually, many many people praise Phantom Hourglass' control scheme, it's very responsible and smooth. The way it's used is very clever and innovative.

As for the boss battles, they are epic and take some strategy to beat them. But once you figure out the strategies the bosses are easy, but extremely fun.

The only thing I don't like about this game is that they reuse the same music for every island and dungeon. Not much diversity with the soundtrack.

Overall, a worthy entry to the Zelda franchise and one of the best DS games and one of them who uses the touch screen at its best. But dang, this game will kill your touch screen if you're too rough XD
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: Flathead770 on October 19, 2007, 12:27:11 AM
i finished the game as well. The only thing that took quite a while to get used to is the rolling, and i still find it hard to pull of sometimes, especially to try and dodge an attack. I find the bosses to be the best in series, with some cool ideas with the top screen. Out of all the games that i've beaten with 3 hearts (OoT, OoT: Master Quest, Minish Cap, Twilight Princess), i find it to be the hardest, seeing that i actually got a game over on the last boss (i can usually beat the game without dying once).

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Becuase you use the stylus to move. In fact, the stylus commands the whole game.
Theres even a ghost that mentions this in the game, it says something like "My only regret was that i used the D-pad" or something along those lines.

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and even close the DS top lid with your map open to press a symbol into the map (This one took a while for me to solve XD)
:lol lol i found that out completely by accident. After about 10 min of thinking what to do, I closed it to take a break, when i started to play again, i finally realized what it was trying to tell me.

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Also, the plot, from what I've heard, sounds errily similar to "Wind Waker".
The only thing similar is that you go from island to island. Otherwise the only other similarity is that you have to save tetra, but that idea has been in almost every Zelda game.
Title: The Legend of Zelda (all)
Post by: The Friendly Sharptooth on January 05, 2009, 08:13:14 PM
I'm not very good at Zelda games. I own every North American version of every Zelda game except for the five rare ones:

LCD:
Zelda Game Watch
Zelda Game & Watch

Philips CD-i:
Link: The Faces of Evil
Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon (You play as Zelda here, not Link)
Zelda's Adventure (You play as Zelda here too)

Yet so far, I've just beaten one- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening for the Game Boy. But even that one took me a long time. Most of it was fairly easy, but dungeon seven was the killer for me. It was harder than the eighth one in my opinion. I got really close to beating Link to the Past for the SNES though. I was so close, just three more dungeons until I'd rescued all eight princesses. I watched my brother play Twilight Princess for the Wii- so I'm not even going to attempt that one! I mostly just collect the Zelda games these days because they're so popular. There is just something about that series that makes my head hurt sometimes. I'm doing great in T.E.S. IV: Oblivion, no problem there. Kingdom Heatrts II? I'm at the end of the game from playing it for the first time and I've only lost all my health once. But things like Majora's Mask- that has the opposite effect on me that headache medicine has, if you catch my drift. They seem to be so easy to everyone else here, and that's great. I'm really happy for everyone but I doubt many will be made again that I could finish. Now I just use them as displays for my room- a little Zelda theme makes a room look good. Now I still love Zelda games for two reasons: they are fun for me- to collect, and they are enjoyable- when I watch other people play them. I used to play them all the time- until I learned that I'm not cut out to beat most of them. So I am a Zelda game fan in every sense of the word- except when it comes to actually playing them.

My favorite one is Link's Awakening DX because of the bonus clothes toward the end and my least is Majora's Mask, because I find it even harder knowing I only have three days to solve a dungeon. Whether I play the inverted song of time to slow time down or not, I don't think as well when I'm being rushed. My favorite Zelda item is- please don't laugh- the Cane of Somaria (it's spelled something like that). I know that that is probably the stupidest item, but I enjoy using it the most. Swing it, rock appears, pick up the rock with power glove, then throw it at the enemy. It's just funnier to kill a guard by throwing stones at him than swinging the master sword after it has been tempered and thrown in that water to be turned to gold. If you haven't noticed yet, I've been talking about A Link to the Past for the SNES and now on the GBA. Out of all the spells, like quake, ether, bombos (ALTTP), din's fire, farore's wind, nayru's love (OOT), and so forth, I like ether the best since it is an attack that doesn't kill anyone. It just turns everyone to ice which can be smashed with a hammer to get your magic restored. So they all die AND you have your magic afterwards. That's the best spell in my opinion, if you have a hammer. My favorite sword is definately the biggoron sword, the huge double handed blade with more strength than the master sword. It is a small price to pay to not be able to wield a shield when I never seem to use one anyway. Right now, there is a Zelda game out in Japan that I am pretty confident that I can beat though. It's very different however. I don't think Link even shows up in it. It is an origin story of how one of Link's friends got to be the way he was- Tingle. I read that the battle style is uncomparable to Link's at all. It is for the DS and is called "Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosie Rupeeland." Yeah. I thought the same thing you're probably thinking when you just saw the title. But the story is funny and the gameplay seems fun. I like everything about Zelda except how much trouble I have with it. I watch youtube and go, "How did they figure that out?" or "How did he make that look so easy?" What makes it frustrating is the fact that everyone can breeze through it except me. Am I just a bad gamer, or are most Zelda players just really good? They are fun to play until I get stuck for weeks. That is why I like watching others play them. I can enjoy the gameplay without bringing it to a hault every hour. I acknowledge that Zelda games are wonderful and extremely popular everywhere, but most of them are just too hard for me. I think I'll wait for Tingle's DS debue so I might stand a chance. Until then, I'll be happy watching others. Later!