The Gang of Five

The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Gentle Sharptooth on September 27, 2017, 05:22:41 PM

Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on September 27, 2017, 05:22:41 PM
Chomper has been a favorite character of mine since I saw LBTII: The Great Valley Adventure. I remember when The Big Freeze came out, I hoped Chomper would have cameo or visit in a sequel, and to my delight he was reoccurring character in LBT Series and was featured in Journey of the Brave (LBT XIV).

I wanted to raise a theory about Chomper I have and his relationship with Leaf Eaters (Herbivores). There are many who hold to opinion that Chomper once he become an adult Carnivour will devour the Gang of Five (Six, if you count Ruby). I actually wish to humbly object to this on basis of reality. As humans we eat meat, chicken, beef, pork, and etc. When I order food like a chicken sandwhich I am behaving in same manner Chomper's parents did, eating what gives proper susitance; but if I were to raise a chicken or cow from infancy, feed them, name them, and even play with them; I would develop a bond and the said chicken or cow would be domesticated and know me; becoming pets. In this regard I think Chomper has developed this bond with the Gang of Five, and so when he sees them he does not think of food which is made up of their kind, because he developed a connection with them from a hatchling

Feel free to contest my theory, but I think Chomper is as likely to eat the Gang of Five and Ruby as we would our beloved dog, cat, bird, turtle, and fish.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Longneck3050 on September 27, 2017, 05:25:49 PM
I disagree with you. Chomper knew them since he was a baby and still does now. A theory is that if he never met them, he would've ate them in 5. As Long as Chomper knows his friends, chances of him eating them are unlikely.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on September 27, 2017, 05:56:57 PM
Quote from: Longneck3050,Sep 27 2017 on  04:25 PM
I disagree with you. Chomper knew them since he was a baby and still does now. A theory is that if he never met them, he would've ate them in 5. As Long as Chomper knows his friends, chances of him eating them are unlikely.
My theory is in regards to argument that once Chomper becomes an adult like his mother and father he will get a lizard brain and want to eat the Gang of Five. I am refuting this claim by explaining that familiarity with Gang of Five has made Chomper like us having pet cow or chicken, that we won't eat because we are close to them; though we will eat other chickens and cows.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Hypno on September 27, 2017, 05:57:07 PM
Quote from: Longneck3050,Sep 27 2017 on  06:25 PM
I disagree with you. Chomper knew them since he was a baby and still does now. A theory is that if he never met them, he would've ate them in 5. As Long as Chomper knows his friends, chances of him eating them are unlikely.
However the predatory instincts of a carnivore could overtake him like in II and V with Cera and Littlefoot respectively. We don't really know for sure if he will see them as food or not when he grows up, but it is definitely a possibility. Bugs cannot feed a young Tyrannosaurus forever.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Longneck3050 on September 27, 2017, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: Hypnobrai,Sep 27 2017 on  04:57 PM
Quote from: Longneck3050,Sep 27 2017 on  06:25 PM
I disagree with you. Chomper knew them since he was a baby and still does now. A theory is that if he never met them, he would've ate them in 5. As Long as Chomper knows his friends, chances of him eating them are unlikely.
However the predatory instincts of a carnivore could overtake him like in II and V with Cera and Littlefoot respectively. We don't really know for sure if he will see them as food or not when he grows up, but it is definitely a possibility. Bugs cannot feed a young Tyrannosaurus forever.
Only time will tell if he sees or not sees his friends as food.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on September 27, 2017, 06:06:49 PM
Quote from: Hypnobrai,Sep 27 2017 on  04:57 PM
Quote from: Longneck3050,Sep 27 2017 on  06:25 PM
I disagree with you. Chomper knew them since he was a baby and still does now. A theory is that if he never met them, he would've ate them in 5. As Long as Chomper knows his friends, chances of him eating them are unlikely.
However the predatory instincts of a carnivore could overtake him like in II and V with Cera and Littlefoot respectively. We don't really know for sure if he will see them as food or not when he grows up, but it is definitely a possibility. Bugs cannot feed a young Tyrannosaurus forever.
I think the answer is found in First Masgascar film with Alex the Lion (played by Ben Stiller).  :DD   :smile
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Longneck3050 on September 27, 2017, 06:08:44 PM
Hmm... Madagascar
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on September 27, 2017, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: Longneck3050,Sep 27 2017 on  05:08 PM
Hmm... Madagascar
Alex the Lion at first became kinda rabid, wanting to feed on his best friends, but he overcame this instinct with love for his friends. I envision a similar scene for Chomper and Gang of Five.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Longneck3050 on September 27, 2017, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: Gentle Sharptooth,Sep 27 2017 on  05:56 PM
Quote from: Longneck3050,Sep 27 2017 on  05:08 PM
Hmm... Madagascar
Alex the Lion at first became kinda rabid, wanting to feed on his best friends, but he overcame this instinct with love for his friends. I envision a similar scene for Chomper and Gang of Five.
How interesting
Alex in Madagascar
Chomper in Land Before Time
Hope the 2 will end in the same result: Friends, not Food
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: vonboy on September 27, 2017, 08:31:07 PM
That's assuming Chomper stays in the Great Valley all the way until he matures.

Most fanfictions I see of Chomper's future have him either being banished, or choosing to leave himself, so his friends will be safe, and that what I personally believe would happen.

Chomper himself might be worried about his predatory instincts coming to the fore, hence wanting to leave his friends behind in order to keep them safe from him.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on September 28, 2017, 02:48:58 AM
Quote from: vonboy,Sep 27 2017 on  07:31 PM
That's assuming Chomper stays in the Great Valley all the way until he matures.

Most fanfictions I see of Chomper's future have him either being banished, or choosing to leave himself, so his friends will be safe, and that what I personally believe would happen.

Chomper himself might be worried about his predatory instincts coming to the fore, hence wanting to leave his friends behind in order to keep them safe from him.
Although LBT V shows that Chomper's Parents are able to get past their instincts when they see the Gang of Five help rescue Chomper from drowning. If its possible for Chomper's parents to overhaul their instincts, then I think Chomper could.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Sneak on September 28, 2017, 05:29:12 AM
Quote from: Gentle Sharptooth,Sep 28 2017 on  12:22 AM
but if I were to raise a chicken or cow from infancy, feed them, name them, and even play with them; I would develop a bond and the said chicken or cow would be domesticated and know me; becoming pets. In this regard I think Chomper has developed this bond with the Gang of Five, and so when he sees them he does not think of food which is made up of their kind, because he developed a connection with them from a hatchling
yes, obvious, this.
He would atack them only if he would be in insane state. Or if he doesn't recognize them somehow. Or in self-defence...

besides, LBT's character are pretty much more humanized. So JUST pure instincts works much weaker in this world. Chomper's personality and mind wouldn't let him just one day kill someone from his friends.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: vonboy on September 28, 2017, 08:54:12 AM
Quote from: Gentle Sharptooth,Sep 28 2017 on  12:48 AM
Quote from: vonboy,Sep 27 2017 on  07:31 PM
That's assuming Chomper stays in the Great Valley all the way until he matures.

Most fanfictions I see of Chomper's future have him either being banished, or choosing to leave himself, so his friends will be safe, and that what I personally believe would happen.

Chomper himself might be worried about his predatory instincts coming to the fore, hence wanting to leave his friends behind in order to keep them safe from him.
Although LBT V shows that Chomper's Parents are able to get past their instincts when they see the Gang of Five help rescue Chomper from drowning. If its possible for Chomper's parents to overhaul their instincts, then I think Chomper could.
Chomper keeping his instincts at bay is a nice thought, but would Chomper still be living with his friends when he's an adult? He'd still have to hunt for his food. Don't know what his friends would think about it. Littlefoot might look past it, and still love him, but not sure aobut the rest of the gang.

Also, what if there's a time he can't find any other food? What if he finds himself stuck with his friends, and there's no other animals around? What would he do then?

I still stink he'd want to move out. Maybe try to keep in contact with his friends somehow, but not living with them anymore.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Longneck3050 on September 28, 2017, 03:30:16 PM
I wonder if Chomper would be the gang's bodyguard when there adults.
Title: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on September 28, 2017, 07:52:02 PM
Quote from: Snik,Sep 28 2017 on  04:29 AM
Quote from: Gentle Sharptooth,Sep 28 2017 on  12:22 AM
but if I were to raise a chicken or cow from infancy, feed them, name them, and even play with them; I would develop a bond and the said chicken or cow would be domesticated and know me; becoming pets. In this regard I think Chomper has developed this bond with the Gang of Five, and so when he sees them he does not think of food which is made up of their kind, because he developed a connection with them from a hatchling
yes, obvious, this.
He would atack them only if he would be in insane state. Or if he doesn't recognize them somehow. Or in self-defence...

besides, LBT's character are pretty much more humanized. So JUST pure instincts works much weaker in this world. Chomper's personality and mind wouldn't let him just one day kill someone from his friends.
Well said Snik. LBT dinosaurs have Ana morphisms, human characterisitics like speaking English (or whatever langaugae your movies are dubbed), and their mannerisms and behavior, and desires are more in synch with human ones.
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on December 22, 2019, 07:32:13 AM
Quote from: Gentle Sharptooth,Sep 28 2017 on  12:48 AM
Quote from: vonboy,Sep 27 2017 on  07:31 PM
That's assuming Chomper stays in the Great Valley all the way until he matures.

Most fanfictions I see of Chomper's future have him either being banished, or choosing to leave himself, so his friends will be safe, and that what I personally believe would happen.

Chomper himself might be worried about his predatory instincts coming to the fore, hence wanting to leave his friends behind in order to keep them safe from him.
Although LBT V shows that Chomper's Parents are able to get past their instincts when they see the Gang of Five help rescue Chomper from drowning. If its possible for Chomper's parents to overhaul their instincts, then I think Chomper could.
Chomper keeping his instincts at bay is a nice thought, but would Chomper still be living with his friends when he's an adult? He'd still have to hunt for his food. Don't know what his friends would think about it. Littlefoot might look past it, and still love him, but not sure aobut the rest of the gang.

Also, what if there's a time he can't find any other food? What if he finds himself stuck with his friends, and there's no other animals around? What would he do then?

I still stink he'd want to move out. Maybe try to keep in contact with his friends somehow, but not living with them anymore.

You raise some astute points. If Chomper and the Gang were marooned on an island, and all Chomper hade to eat was the Gang, would he eat them? Depends if as Snik said earlier if Chomper goes into insane famine mode. Personally, I think Chomper as an adult Tyrannosaurus, would make his friends food after intially resisting. :D 
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: Dr. Rex on February 11, 2020, 06:15:40 AM
Quote from: vonboy,Sep 27 2017 on  07:31 PM
That's assuming Chomper stays in the Great Valley all the way until he matures.

Most fanfictions I see of Chomper's future have him either being banished, or choosing to leave himself, so his friends will be safe, and that what I personally believe would happen.

Chomper himself might be worried about his predatory instincts coming to the fore, hence wanting to leave his friends behind in order to keep them safe from him.
Although LBT V shows that Chomper's Parents are able to get past their instincts when they see the Gang of Five help rescue Chomper from drowning. If its possible for Chomper's parents to overhaul their instincts, then I think Chomper could.
Actually, if I remember correctly (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), Chomper's parents also were opposed to eating the gang because they had been in that patch of stinky grass. I mean, Chomper's dad DID smell Littlefoot and then whispered to his mate that the kids probably wouldn't taste good if they "smelled that bad anyway" (or something along those lines). Who knows what would've happened if the gang's current smell didn't pose a factor?

Also, I agree with the theory that Chomper will eventually leave the Valley once he matures in order to save his friends. Though I do think he'll still retain all the good memories he has of them. Sharpteeth aren't mindless beasts, after all.
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 22, 2020, 04:37:37 PM
Quote from: vonboy,Sep 27 2017 on  07:31 PM
That's assuming Chomper stays in the Great Valley all the way until he matures.

Most fanfictions I see of Chomper's future have him either being banished, or choosing to leave himself, so his friends will be safe, and that what I personally believe would happen.

Chomper himself might be worried about his predatory instincts coming to the fore, hence wanting to leave his friends behind in order to keep them safe from him.
Although LBT V shows that Chomper's Parents are able to get past their instincts when they see the Gang of Five help rescue Chomper from drowning. If its possible for Chomper's parents to overhaul their instincts, then I think Chomper could.
Actually, if I remember correctly (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), Chomper's parents also were opposed to eating the gang because they had been in that patch of stinky grass. I mean, Chomper's dad DID smell Littlefoot and then whispered to his mate that the kids probably wouldn't taste good if they "smelled that bad anyway" (or something along those lines). Who knows what would've happened if the gang's current smell didn't pose a factor?

Also, I agree with the theory that Chomper will eventually leave the Valley once he matures in order to save his friends. Though I do think he'll still retain all the good memories he has of them. Sharpteeth aren't mindless beasts, after all.


So the solution is for the Gang to have stinky grass on them at all times. This way no Sharptooth, even Chomper would take a bite lol :D
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: ImpracticalDino on February 22, 2020, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: Gentle Sharptooth,Sep 28 2017 on  12:48 AM
Quote from: vonboy,Sep 27 2017 on  07:31 PM
That's assuming Chomper stays in the Great Valley all the way until he matures.

Most fanfictions I see of Chomper's future have him either being banished, or choosing to leave himself, so his friends will be safe, and that what I personally believe would happen.

Chomper himself might be worried about his predatory instincts coming to the fore, hence wanting to leave his friends behind in order to keep them safe from him.
Although LBT V shows that Chomper's Parents are able to get past their instincts when they see the Gang of Five help rescue Chomper from drowning. If its possible for Chomper's parents to overhaul their instincts, then I think Chomper could.
Chomper keeping his instincts at bay is a nice thought, but would Chomper still be living with his friends when he's an adult? He'd still have to hunt for his food. Don't know what his friends would think about it. Littlefoot might look past it, and still love him, but not sure aobut the rest of the gang.

Also, what if there's a time he can't find any other food? What if he finds himself stuck with his friends, and there's no other animals around? What would he do then?

I still stink he'd want to move out. Maybe try to keep in contact with his friends somehow, but not living with them anymore.

You raise some astute points. If Chomper and the Gang were marooned on an island, and all Chomper hade to eat was the Gang, would he eat them? Depends if as Snik said earlier if Chomper goes into insane famine mode. Personally, I think Chomper as an adult Tyrannosaurus, would make his friends food after intially resisting. :D

Dang, the thing that makes this scenario even more tragic in the end of it is that once Chomper caves in to his hunger and eats the Gang, he would most likely die and starve afterwards anyway, since the Gang is his only food source. So, it’s a lose-lose situation in the end. Either the Gang mourns the loss of their beloved Sharptooth friend and also commend him on his courage to fight his instincts, or he dies alone after a quick snack on the Gang with huge regret and remorse.

Although, if Chomper could learn to swim and hunt for fish/other aquatic creatures, perhaps this could be a happy end for all. :D

Let’s not forget, Pterosaurs and other flying dinosaurs could visit the island if they so desire, also landing occasional food for Chomper on the deserted island.

So hypothetically, all hope is not lost. :chompysmile
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: Dr. Rex on March 03, 2020, 08:03:52 PM
Although, if Chomper could learn to swim and hunt for fish/other aquatic creatures, perhaps this could be a happy end for all. :D

Let’s not forget, Pterosaurs and other flying dinosaurs could visit the island if they so desire, also landing occasional food for Chomper on the deserted island.

So hypothetically, all hope is not lost. :chompysmile
Indeed, all hope is not lost...except for Mo and Pterano.
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 03, 2020, 10:50:54 PM
I wonder if Chomper wpuld adopt a new name if he gave in to making a meal of the Gang? Afterall Littlefoot named him, so after making friends food, Chonper may want a new name. :p
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: ImpracticalDino on March 03, 2020, 10:59:39 PM
Although, if Chomper could learn to swim and hunt for fish/other aquatic creatures, perhaps this could be a happy end for all. :D

Let’s not forget, Pterosaurs and other flying dinosaurs could visit the island if they so desire, also landing occasional food for Chomper on the deserted island.

So hypothetically, all hope is not lost. :chompysmile
Indeed, all hope is not lost...except for Mo and Pterano.

This statement does not sit well with me, especially when you say Mo. Indeed, his species in real life does technically qualify him as a Sharptooth, but the relationship between him and his Mud Brothers would remain relatively unchanged. There is no threat here and no danger to the Gang. Although, I’d imagine they would be shocked at this revelation at first. :P

...

Oooh...now I see what you mean. Alright, carry on. I retract my statement. :D :PCera

I wonder if Chomper wpuld adopt a new name if he gave in to making a meal of the Gang? Afterall Littlefoot named him, so after making friends food, Chonper may want a new name. :p

I have no ideas at the moment. :p
But surely that’ll never happen...right? :(
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 03, 2020, 11:06:27 PM
Although, if Chomper could learn to swim and hunt for fish/other aquatic creatures, perhaps this could be a happy end for all. :D

Let’s not forget, Pterosaurs and other flying dinosaurs could visit the island if they so desire, also landing occasional food for Chomper on the deserted island.

So hypothetically, all hope is not lost. :chompysmile
Indeed, all hope is not lost...except for Mo and Pterano.

This statement does not sit well with me, especially when you say Mo. Indeed, his species in real life does technically qualify him as a Sharptooth, but the relationship between him and his Mud Brothers would remain relatively unchanged. There is no threat here and no danger to the Gang. Although, I’d imagine they would be shocked at this revelation at first. :P

...

Oooh...now I see what you mean. Alright, carry on. I retract my statement. :D :PCera

I wonder if Chomper wpuld adopt a new name if he gave in to making a meal of the Gang? Afterall Littlefoot named him, so after making friends food, Chonper may want a new name. :p

I have no ideas at the moment. :p
But surely that’ll never happen...right? :(

I suspect it will never happen in a TLBT film. But somewhere in a fan fict online, Chomper is picking his teeth with a bone from his friends. :o ;(

I suspect it will never happen in a TLBT film. But somewhere in a fan fict online, Chomper is picking his teeth with a bone from his friends. :o ;(
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: ImpracticalDino on March 03, 2020, 11:13:51 PM
But seriously though, the writers for LBT should really explore that concept for Chomper. The possibility of leaving his friends in the future, what if he caves in to his instincts, and etc. That inner conflict, should it be done in an entire movie, or for a single TV series episode? Which do you think it’s best? But whatever path he decides to choose for himself, I’m sure the Gang would totally understand and support it. :)
Title: Re: Chomper Theory
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 13, 2020, 11:04:30 AM
But seriously though, the writers for LBT should really explore that concept for Chomper. The possibility of leaving his friends in the future, what if he caves in to his instincts, and etc. That inner conflict, should it be done in an entire movie, or for a single TV series episode? Which do you think it’s best? But whatever path he decides to choose for himself, I’m sure the Gang would totally understand and support it. :)


Exploring Chomper’s inner conflict would most likely play pit in a tame way like Spike leaving with Stegosaurus herd in “The Big Freezs.” To get fairly good emotional payoff it would need to be a film; the series was a little too Juvenile.