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The Land Before Time => Land Before Time TV Series (2007) => Topic started by: jonk012 on January 07, 2017, 01:27:24 PM

Title: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: jonk012 on January 07, 2017, 01:27:24 PM
After the 14th movie came out two characters that were there pretty much confirmed it..ruby and chomper.

Now of course old characters came back for a episode in the series and they brought up past adventures. But ruby and chomper in the 14th movie confirmed it.


So... was the series what the gang did leading up to journey of the brave?
Title: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Coyote_A on January 07, 2017, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: jonk012,Jan 7 2017 on  09:27 PM
So... was the series what the gang did leading up to journey of the brave?
Yup, pretty much. It's all canon until Disney buys the franchise and declares that only the original trilogy counts and everything else is just part of the "Great Valley legends" continuity. :lol:
Title: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: ADFan185 on January 07, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
That would be very interesting if Disney bought out universal there competitor and own the rights to this franchise. But I highly doubt they do that since they'll loose money since no one would watch the tv series so they'll loose tons of viewers on top of that.
Title: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Dr. Rex on March 05, 2017, 03:22:48 AM
Quote from: jonk012,Jan 7 2017 on  12:27 PM
After the 14th movie came out two characters that were there pretty much confirmed it..ruby and chomper.

Now of course old characters came back for a episode in the series and they brought up past adventures. But ruby and chomper in the 14th movie confirmed it.


So... was the series what the gang did leading up to journey of the brave?
You just answered your own question.
Title: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Littlefoot505 on October 16, 2017, 12:51:28 PM
Quote from: Dr. Rex,Mar 5 2017 on  01:22 AM
Quote from: jonk012,Jan 7 2017 on  12:27 PM
After the 14th movie came out two characters that were there pretty much confirmed it..ruby and chomper.

Now of course old characters came back for a episode in the series and they brought up past adventures. But ruby and chomper in the 14th movie confirmed it.


So... was the series what the gang did leading up to journey of the brave?
You just answered your own question.
Pretty much! Anyway, I'd say that it is canon.
Title: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Sneak on October 16, 2017, 01:39:28 PM
here's additional question: what of all LBT books and games could be considered as true canon?
Title: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Hypno on October 16, 2017, 02:19:54 PM
I’d say the books and games take place around the times between the films that were released in between the game/book’s release. LBT doesn’t really need to follow a complex canon like other franchises.
Title: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Sneak on October 16, 2017, 02:29:08 PM
Quote from: Hypnobrai,Oct 16 2017 on  09:19 PM
I’d say the books and games take place around the times between the films that were released in between the game/book’s release. LBT doesn’t really need to follow a complex canon like other franchises.
well, some books, for example, don't fully follow plot of some films, as I remember.
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: RainbowFaceProtege on March 29, 2020, 09:22:46 PM
Ahh, a question I've been wrestling with for ages! As much as I'd like to ignore some aspects of the TV show (i.e., the bizarre attempt to give Spike more development in "Eyes of a Spiketail"), I ultimately have to stick to the "canon-until-proven-noncanon" rule. It's not like anything in the TV show contradicts the movie series much.
I've always had reeeally mixed opinions on the TV show. :facepalm I love the episodes that brought old characters back with their original voices (Guido and Mo). Having Chomper back was fun, too, even though this was all but totally unexplained, and Ruby was a worthy addition to the group, though the lack of backstory on her friendship with Chomper is also really unfortunate.

Now for what really irked me: they had to keep giving old characters new voices that didn't sound a thing like the originals. Mr. Thicknose, Ali, etc.--those were the best replacements they could find? Really?? If anything makes me want to call the show's canon status into question, it's the fact that Mr. Thicknose sounds 30 years younger than when we last saw him...but alas, I suppose low-budget replacement voice actors aren't a valid reason to de-canonize something.

Plus I'm still holding a silly grudge against this show for the fact that, when they started bringing a bunch of guest characters back from the movies, I kept waiting for the Rainbow Faces to make their return, and you know what? They never did!! x(cera

Quote from: Hypnobrai,Oct 16 2017 on  09:19 PM
I’d say the books and games take place around the times between the films that were released in between the game/book’s release. LBT doesn’t really need to follow a complex canon like other franchises.
well, some books, for example, don't fully follow plot of some films, as I remember.
Yeah, if a book strays from the plot of a film (like the original movie storybook that had a deleted scene or something in it), I don't think it's canon. But, hey, if you guys are looking to debate over something else of this sort, I've got an official LBT comic book that's an original story! (Where would I post pics of that?)
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 29, 2020, 09:30:02 PM
I think the Series is canon now because of LBTXIV: Journey of the Brave which features Chomper and Ruby. This crosses over the movies and series.
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: OwlsCantRead on March 30, 2020, 01:23:31 AM
I think the Series is canon now because of LBTXIV: Journey of the Brave which features Chomper and Ruby. This crosses over the movies and series.
This should pretty much quash this argument once and for all. The TV series itself has a sense of continuity by bringing back old characters, so having Ruby (a TV series gang member) appear in Journey of the Brave should prove once and for all that it is a canon part of the LBT continuity, even if the Red Claw plot thread was left dangling.
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2020, 01:31:05 AM
I think the Series is canon now because of LBTXIV: Journey of the Brave which features Chomper and Ruby. This crosses over the movies and series.
This should pretty much quash this argument once and for all. The TV series itself has a sense of continuity by bringing back old characters, so having Ruby (a TV series gang member) appear in Journey of the Brave should prove once and for all that it is a canon part of the LBT continuity, even if the Red Claw plot thread was left dangling.


Redclaw may make an appearance in LBTXV, so there still is hope. :)
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: RainbowFaceProtege on March 30, 2020, 11:24:56 AM
I think the Series is canon now because of LBTXIV: Journey of the Brave which features Chomper and Ruby. This crosses over the movies and series.
This should pretty much quash this argument once and for all. The TV series itself has a sense of continuity by bringing back old characters, so having Ruby (a TV series gang member) appear in Journey of the Brave should prove once and for all that it is a canon part of the LBT continuity, even if the Red Claw plot thread was left dangling.


Redclaw may make an appearance in LBTXV, so there still is hope. :)

I was sort of surprised they didn't put Red Claw in XIV, since Chomper and Ruby made it in there. Of course, I also remember hoping we were going to get a proper backstory for Chomper and Ruby when I saw them in the XIV trailer...but it was not to be.
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2020, 11:29:28 AM
I think the Series is canon now because of LBTXIV: Journey of the Brave which features Chomper and Ruby. This crosses over the movies and series.
This should pretty much quash this argument once and for all. The TV series itself has a sense of continuity by bringing back old characters, so having Ruby (a TV series gang member) appear in Journey of the Brave should prove once and for all that it is a canon part of the LBT continuity, even if the Red Claw plot thread was left dangling.


Redclaw may make an appearance in LBTXV, so there still is hope. :)

I was sort of surprised they didn't put Red Claw in XIV, since Chomper and Ruby made it in there. Of course, I also remember hoping we were going to get a proper backstory for Chomper and Ruby when I saw them in the XIV trailer...but it was not to be.


I am puzzled why Chomper left his parents. That was never explained to my satisfaction in the series.
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Anagnos on March 30, 2020, 12:01:50 PM
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I am puzzled why Chomper left his parents. That was never explained to my satisfaction in the series.

The best explanation we got was that Ruby was keeping him ''safe'' for them. For whatever reason, that was never revealed. Which is quite dumb, if you ask me. Perchance it had something to do with Red Claw, but that was never confirmed.
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2020, 12:05:25 PM
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I am puzzled why Chomper left his parents. That was never explained to my satisfaction in the series.

The best explanation we got was that Ruby was keeping him ''safe'' for them. For whatever reason, that was never revealed. Which is quite dumb, if you ask me. Perchance it had something to do with Red Claw, but that was never confirmed.

Perhaps he’s Uncle Redclaw and wants to turn Chomper into a full fledge meat eater.

Redclaw: Give into your instincts! 
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on March 30, 2020, 12:06:45 PM
I think the Series is canon now because of LBTXIV: Journey of the Brave which features Chomper and Ruby. This crosses over the movies and series.

I'd agree, it makes more sense now.
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Anagnos on March 30, 2020, 12:09:26 PM
We're not going to turn this franchise into Revenge of the Sith, guys. :PCera
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2020, 12:15:36 PM
We're not going to turn this franchise into Revenge of the Sith, guys. :PCera

Oh but it already is. :bestsharptooth
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Anagnos on March 30, 2020, 12:19:01 PM
Technically, this is untrue if you refer Red Claw and his cronies as the Sith. Remember, always two there are. No more, no less. :wow
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2020, 12:21:45 PM
Technically, this is untrue if you refer Red Claw and his cronies as the Sith. Remember, always two there are. No more, no less. :wow

They are the Sith pre Darth Bane, Rule of Two:

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Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Anagnos on March 30, 2020, 12:23:12 PM
^Ah, yes. I totally forgot this existed. I'm no tryhard Star Wars fan, so I didn't recall this being a thing. But since you didn't specify, I simply made a guess. :p
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2020, 12:25:31 PM
If someone made a Redclaw with red lighysaber, that woukd be epic.
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Anagnos on March 30, 2020, 12:29:13 PM
Actually, that is not a bad idea. It could make the wimp a bit more intimidating in the long run. ;)
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2020, 12:30:30 PM
Actually, that is not a bad idea. It could make the wimp a bit more intimidating in the long run. ;)

Then perhaps he can conquer that pesky fruit. :bestsharptooth
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Anagnos on March 30, 2020, 12:36:38 PM
Actually, that is not a bad idea. It could make the wimp a bit more intimidating in the long run. ;)

Then perhaps he can conquer that pesky fruit. :bestsharptooth

The fruit would probably still be a problem, but he could just slice it to pieces or use his force push to cast them aside. If only he didn't accidentally cut himself with the lightsaber. :slap
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2020, 12:38:21 PM
Actually, that is not a bad idea. It could make the wimp a bit more intimidating in the long run. ;)

Then perhaps he can conquer that pesky fruit. :bestsharptooth

The fruit would probably still be a problem, but he could just slice it to pieces or use his force push to cast them aside. If only he didn't accidentally cut himself with the lightsaber. :slap

He blames his pitch fork fingers, hard to grip the saber hilt. :D
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: RainbowFaceProtege on March 30, 2020, 12:45:07 PM
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I am puzzled why Chomper left his parents. That was never explained to my satisfaction in the series.

The best explanation we got was that Ruby was keeping him ''safe'' for them. For whatever reason, that was never revealed. Which is quite dumb, if you ask me. Perchance it had something to do with Red Claw, but that was never confirmed.

I remember there was one episode (don't know which one) where they showed a flashback of Ruby saying goodbye to her parents, and they were saying she and Chomper needed to go to the Great Valley to find out how the dinosaurs there coexisted and worked together or something like that, since that knowledge could help defeat Red Claw one day. Still not a satisfying explanation for me, though. Why are Chomper and Ruby the "chosen ones" to make this discovery? Why do they make it sound like Chomper and Ruby are on some sort of mission when all through the rest of the series, it seems like they're not actively making observations and seeking knowledge about teamwork and whatnot so much as they're just hanging around and having fun with the other kids?
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 30, 2020, 12:46:43 PM
Chomper is Kylo Ren, and Ruby is Rey. :D
Title: Re: So... is the LBT tv series canon?
Post by: Anagnos on March 30, 2020, 12:49:44 PM
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I am puzzled why Chomper left his parents. That was never explained to my satisfaction in the series.

The best explanation we got was that Ruby was keeping him ''safe'' for them. For whatever reason, that was never revealed. Which is quite dumb, if you ask me. Perchance it had something to do with Red Claw, but that was never confirmed.

I remember there was one episode (don't know which one) where they showed a flashback of Ruby saying goodbye to her parents, and they were saying she and Chomper needed to go to the Great Valley to find out how the dinosaurs there coexisted and worked together or something like that, since that knowledge could help defeat Red Claw one day. Still not a satisfying explanation for me, though. Why are Chomper and Ruby the "chosen ones" to make this discovery? Why do they make it sound like Chomper and Ruby are on some sort of mission when all through the rest of the series, it seems like they're not actively making observations and seeking knowledge about teamwork and whatnot so much as they're just hanging around and having fun with the other kids?

I think that is mostly because both Chomper and Ruby lived in the Mysterious Beyond at one time, and therefore know it far better than anyone ever could. The Gang has visited it many times, but have they actually taken the time to explore how everyday life there works? You could also argue that they lived there at one point as well, but since Ruby and Chomper have most likely lived there since they were born (excluding the part about Chomper's birth), they obviously must know far better than the average valley dweller.