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Use of blood in the sequels

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It kinda puzzles me, why do they use blood in the sequels (5 & 6), but censor it from being shown in the 1st one? If you don't know what I am talking about, the 5th one shows blood when the Sharpteeth are fighting, and the 6th one shows the braciosaurus getting the scar across his eye. That just puzzles me. :huh:


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The small injuries shown in movies five and six are nothing compared to the lethal wound that littlefoot's mother took in the first movie. There would be a LOT of blood if that were shown.


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There was a little blood in one scene from the original movie though. There was a short moment in which a some bloody cuts on the back of Littlefoot's mother's neck could be seen. There may have been more originally, but several sharptooth scenes were cut from the movie because Steven Spielberg and George Lucas (unlike Don Bluth) considered them to be too scary for kids.
Perhaps the level of sensitivity for blood in movies has dropped somewhat from 1988 to 1997.


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Quote from: Malte279,Dec 22 2006 on  07:11 PM
There was a little blood in one scene from the original movie though. There was a short moment in which a some bloody cuts on the back of Littlefoot's mother's neck could be seen. There may have been more originally, but several sharptooth scenes were cut from the movie because Steven Spielberg and George Lucas (unlike Don Bluth) considered them to be too scary for kids.
Perhaps the level of sensitivity for blood in movies has dropped somewhat from 1988 to 1997.
Steven Spielburg, Mr. Jaws himself, worried about a bit of cartoon blood?! :huh:


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It actually makes perfect sense. Steven might have directed movies like Jurassic Park where you do see blood, but that's because Jurassic Park is rated PG-13 and is meant for an older audience.

However, The Land Before Time is rated G, it is meant for younger viewers, so the amount of blood that can be shown is very limited. Steven must've felt that too much blood would have scared the children the movie was intended for.


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Sadly, Spielberg is of the generation that grew up when the Looney Toons were just then getting made for the first time, and those have more intense violence than any other animated features I've ever seen. Then, he has the gall to edit out blood froma movie someone else directed when his own have been exceedingly gorey. Talk about nerve.
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I believe Steven made a good move by removing the blood that Don Bluth intended there be from the movie. Had he and George not do this, Land Before Time might have been banned because those graphic scenes would have given almost every child in the theatre nightmares. Not to mention Don Bluth might have been sued by angry parents for allowing such violence in a G movie.


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hey i'll even admit when i was like 4 watching the original lbt. the fight between the sharpteeth and the thunder and all that stuff scared the knickers out of mee.

wel i dont think the use of blood in 5 and 6 were alot. i mean like just a bit of a scarring an stuff but thats about it. its not like gushing and flowing out like it would have been if they showed it on little foots mom


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Don Bluth wrote an article on the issue of Sharptooth scenes cut from the original movie which he published in his ToonTalk magazine. I think I quoted that article in another thread, but I don't have the magazine at hand right now. However, even Mr. Bluth said in hindsight that Spielberg and Lucas were probably right to do it, while he felt a bit like his new born was rushed into surgery.
I don't think more blood, by itself, would be a remarkable improvement of LBT.


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I know it probably was a great move in the long run, but that's still some nerve horning in on something someone else did, and that's something I always frown on.
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Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Dec 28 2006 on  04:30 AM
I know it probably was a great move in the long run, but that's still some nerve horning in on something someone else did, and that's something I always frown on.
Same here.


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Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Dec 23 2006 on  08:22 PM
Sadly, Spielberg is of the generation that grew up when the Looney Toons were just then getting made for the first time, and those have more intense violence than any other animated features I've ever seen. Then, he has the gall to edit out blood froma movie someone else directed when his own have been exceedingly gorey. Talk about nerve.
Thats one of the main reasons I'm not going to work with famous directors whan I enter the animation business.


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I for one don't like to watch bloody, gorey movies.  I mean, what's the point?  It never scared me, I just wouldn't like it.  I probably would have cried more when Littlefoot's mother died if there was a lot of blood.  I cried enough thank you!

I hate the fact that every movie has to be about either sex or extreme violence.  That's one of the reasons I like LBT so much.  It doesn't involve sex in the slightest although, Littlefoot may have a little crush on Ali.  This isn't the main theme in the movies.  Heck, even pokemon has sexual things in it.

I do hope that Littlefoot and Ali do get together and in truth, I don't mind sex.  It's when that's the whole point of the movie and they talk dirty to each other.  It makes me sick!  Sex isn't everything people!


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even pokemon has sexual things in it.

Um, what are you talking about? I don't remember that in Pokemon.


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Um, what are you talking about? I don't remember that in Pokemon.

I don't mean blatent disquesting sex stuff, I mean just sexual things in general.  Like Brock is attracted to nurse joy and officer jennie and stuff.  There's none of that crap in LBT.  Tria and Topsy never even said that they loved each other and it didn't go into any details about their past or their sexual relationship (thank god!).

I'm sure there is plenty of other sexual things in pokemon.  I haven't watched it in about 7 years though so my memory isn't the best.  I have all of the old vhs tapes.  Maybe I'll watch them tonight...


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Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Jul 1 2007 on  07:20 PM
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I'm sure there is plenty of other sexual things in pokemon.
In an episode that was banned from the U.S.A. James got inflatable breasts. Does that count?


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In an episode that was banned from the U.S.A. James got inflatable breasts. Does that count?


Heck yeah!  They never even mention genital areas in LBT, let alone make them stand out and try some sort of crude humor with it.  I'm glad I did't see that one.


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Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Jul 2 2007 on  12:28 AM
Heck yeah!  They never even mention genital areas in LBT, let alone make them stand out and try some sort of crude humor with it.  I'm glad I did't see that one.
Yep, that's why I mostly stick to cartoons like LBT or Watership Down (a bit violent, but still charming)


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Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Jul 2 2007 on  12:28 AM
They never even mention genital areas in LBT, let alone make them stand out and try some sort of crude humor with it.
Well...LBT is a kid's show/movies made in the U.S.A., so the producers are going to be more restrictive in terms of content than, say, the producers of Pokemon or Dragonball, which are made in Japan and are also kids shows, but have nudity and a little blood.


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From what I understand, japanese anime is not as strict on content as american cartoons. I could be mistaken.