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Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on July 07, 2015, 10:30:17 PM
The New Horizons space probe, which launched back in January 2006, is about to make a close flyby of the dwarf planet Pluto. Until now, this tiny and very distant world remained largely unknown (even the Hubble Space Telescope couldn't reveal more than a fuzzy image). Even though closest approach won't be until next week (July 14), the space probe is already close enough to reveal features that have never been seen before, such as that it's color is a reddish brown (very much like Mars) with large dark spots along the equator, and its large moon Charon (which, unlike Pluto, is grey) has what appears to be a polar cap that's darker than the rest of the surface.

Pluto has remained one of the last unexplored worlds in our Solar System, but that will soon change. Who else is fascinated by what New Horizons is going to reveal about this distant dwarf planet?
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Kor on July 08, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
I'll be interested in what it uncovers.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: vonboy on July 08, 2015, 09:01:15 AM
Been looking forward to this since I found out about it sometime last year. It's crazy to think when New Horizons was first launched, Pluto was still considered a planet. Seems like so long ago it lost it's status as a planet.

A little plugging here, but I've been watching SciShow Space (https://www.youtube.com/user/scishowspace) for updates on space based missions and findings, and what not. They should be putting up whatever is discovered next week pretty soon after it happens. ;)
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Ptyra on July 08, 2015, 11:37:35 PM
Go, Bill Cipher space probe, go!

...no seriously.

It looks terrifyingly like Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls, right down to the top hat and gold triangle.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: rhombus on July 09, 2015, 10:19:18 AM
I am excited to see what discoveries this probe uncovers.  :)  When its computer had a glitch and it went into 'safe mode' a few days ago I fear for the worst, as a flyby mission doesn't really allow for a re-do if communications are restored too late.  However, it now seems to be operating normally, and it actually released a stunning color view of Pluto today.  So that's a good sign.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/5056/production/_84166502_pluto_color_new.png)

Although it may take us a while to get all of the data back from the probe.  At about 1 kb/sec bandwidth (due to the great distance) NASA estimates that it will take about a year to get back just the 14 days of information from the flyby.  :blink:
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Chiletrek on July 09, 2015, 01:46:15 PM
Hello:
 I never really imagined I would have get to see Pluto's first colour pic here in GoF :DD . It will be amazing when this probe finally gets to do it's flyby path in the next few days.

 Also, to see what is that dark huge area been there since the first pic Hubble took years ago.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Kor on July 10, 2015, 11:27:04 AM
Interesting, so that is what color Pluto was.  I was always curious what it's real color was.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on July 12, 2015, 10:05:35 PM
I'm not sure which site to go to for images to post, but I've read that the latest image released today shows the side that always faces Charon, and is also the side with those mysterious large dark spots. This is the side that will be facing away from New Horizons at the time of it's flyby in a few days, so it's very likely that today's image will be the highest resolution image we will have of that portion of Pluto for a very long time.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Kor on July 13, 2015, 11:45:27 AM
Cool, I'm looking forward to that.  Amazing to think that soon we'll be able to see high res images of a planetary body in the solar system, but very very far away.  Neat.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Nick22 on July 13, 2015, 12:56:38 PM
Pluto takes almost 250 years to go around the sun,. and its orbit is so erratic it sometimes is closer to the sun than Neptune is.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Kor on July 13, 2015, 04:23:32 PM
I think I read somewhere long ago that there was a theory that Pluto was maybe a oort cloud, I think it's called, object that got close enough to the sun to be caught in an orbit, or maybe it was once one of Neptune's moons that was knocked out of orbit.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on July 13, 2015, 09:12:32 PM
Tomorrow is the big day! The moment of the closest approach with be at 11:49 UTC (7:49 am EDT), although we won't receive confirmation of the flyby until many hours later, at least late in the evening, so have patience.

Coincidentally, tomorrow also marks the 50th anniversary of the Mariner 4 flyby of Mars, which provided the very first close up images of another planet for the first time. Pretty interesting to think that the era of initial exploration of our Solar System will have lasted for exactly 50 years.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Nick22 on July 14, 2015, 12:27:32 AM
well we now know that Pluto is bigger than previously thought. its the biggest in size of the beyond Neptune objects,. perhaps the new info about its size will result in it regaining its former planet status?
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: rhombus on July 14, 2015, 02:14:13 AM
^ I highly doubt as it has not "cleared its orbit" as is required in order to be designated a planet.  Pluto makes up less than 10% of the mass within its orbit, whereas Earth (by comparison) makes up over 98% of the mass within its orbit.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Nick22 on July 14, 2015, 09:39:13 AM
if you require it to 'clear its orbit, than none but the biggest planets qualify, as even Earth hasnt completely cleared its orbit.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Kor on July 14, 2015, 10:53:56 AM
This may spark debate among some of Pluto gaining it's planetary status again.  

Personally I'll enjoy the much closer views of Pluto's surface and Pluto itself.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: rhombus on July 14, 2015, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: Nick22,Jul 14 2015 on  08:39 AM
if you require it to 'clear its orbit, than none but the biggest planets qualify, as even Earth hasnt completely cleared its orbit.
Indeed.  Though if we did not require such objects to clear its orbit (more information on that requirement can be found here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearing_the_neighbourhood)) then we would have dozens of objects of rather small size being called 'planets' which would diminish the meaning of the word from what it has generally indicated in recent history, which is to indicate that an object is among the most prominent in the solar system that dominates its orbit.  From the chart on that page you can see that Earth, Venus, Jupiter, and the other planets all have planetary discriminate values of 2400 or more (Earth's is 1700000), whereas Pluto only has a value of 0.077.  Based upon that both Ceres (0.33) and Eris (0.10) would have more of a claim on planethood than Pluto.

Nonetheless, I am excited to see what New Horizons sends our way once it sends its signal later tonight.  :) One of its latest transmissions has already given us an amazing view of Pluto and Charon.

(http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/nh-color-pluto-charon.jpg)
Pluto and its moon, Charon

(http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/tn-p_lorri_fullframe_color.png)
The sun-side of Pluto
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: vonboy on July 14, 2015, 05:12:37 PM
Very nice pictures, Rhombus, and looking forward to more of them!

I'm thinking those black splotches might just be dust left over after some of the ice on the surface being melted off. It's a phenomonon seen on some comets, when they pass close by the sun.

It's been theorized in the past that during Pluto's closest orbit, when it's orbit drops past Neptune's orbit, it get's just enough heat from the sun to melt some of it's ice, and maybe even give the dwarf planet a temporary atmosphere. I wonder how this flyby's going to contribute to/disprove that theory.

Just babbling on my part.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Kor on July 14, 2015, 06:33:06 PM
Interesting color that Pluto and it's moon are.  if that is ice i wonder what sort of ice it is.  That bit about when it comes closer could be how if it has any ice, it may melt.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: rhombus on July 14, 2015, 10:52:22 PM
New Horizons has sent a signal home, which means that it has survived the flyby.  Furthermore, its log file indicate no anomalies, so this means that it had no logged problems in recording its data.

So hopefully we will be getting the first pictures from the flyby soon.  :)
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on July 19, 2015, 09:00:20 PM
Has anyone seen the close-up pictures of Pluto that have been released so far? They show interesting features such as mountains as tall as the Rockies that are made out of water ice. There's one of Charon that includes a feature that some have call a "mountain with a moat". And there's also a pair of (albeit blurry) pictures of two of Pluto's smaller moons, Nix and Hydra, showing them to be rather lumpy in shape (like the moons of Mars) and likely made out of water ice, due to how bright they are.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: bestariana1girl on July 22, 2015, 09:07:33 PM
I have! They are amazing! I can't believe Pluto isn't as icy as they thought, I'm excited to see what else is out there too! :smile
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on July 26, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
NASA released a new batch of images last Friday (and we supposedly won't get any more new ones until September). Among these are clearer (but still blurry) images of the tiny moons Nix and Hydra; the northern edge of that heart-shaped region, showing that it's likely a large glacier made out of nitrogen ice that seems to be flowing over older cratered terrain; and a view of the night side of Pluto showing sunlight passing through its atmosphere all around it.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on September 10, 2015, 08:05:07 PM
For the first time in over a month, new images from the flyby have just been released. They are not yet in color, but they show a much higher level of detail of Pluto's surface than the earlier images, revealing the older heavily-cratered dark terrain and the water ice mountains along the edge of the smooth heart-shaped plain.

As New Horizons continues to transmit data ever so slowly, expect to see more new images on a regular basis.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Ducky123 on September 12, 2015, 10:58:14 AM
Here's (http://www.iflscience.com/space/pluto-terrain-complicated) a pretty good article with some of the most recent pictures sent back to earth :)
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on October 03, 2015, 08:12:04 PM
Some of the more recently released images show both Pluto and Charon in full color, including close-up high resolution images of Pluto's surface, and that Charon's dark polar region is actually reddish in color, indicating that the material in that region probably came from Pluto.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on October 10, 2015, 08:30:05 PM
Quite some interesting new discoveries coming from some of the latest images. For example, the color photo of the hazy atmosphere around Pluto show's that it's actually blue. Also, Pluto's tiniest moon, Styx, is only a few miles across, about as small as Mars's moons.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Kor on October 11, 2015, 10:16:12 AM
I read that supposedly Pluto has frozen water ice and it's red in color for some reason.  Think I read that.  Not fully awake so may have misread it.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on October 28, 2015, 06:35:02 PM
A blurry image of the last of Pluto's moons, Kerboros, has been released, and it's quite a surprise. Due to the gravitational effects it's had on the system, scientists had expected that moon to be rather large, with its dimness probably due to a very dark surface. However, the image shows it's very tiny (the smallest one of all) and just as bright as all the others. This was quite an unexpected discovery, and clearly some work needs to be done to figure out why there's such a discrepancy between the gravitational effects and the actual image.
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on December 05, 2015, 07:32:32 PM
The most recently released images show the surface of Pluto at the highest resolution we will ever see out of this flyby mission.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/4/9851162/...high-resolution (http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/4/9851162/nasa-new-horizons-pluto-photo-new-high-resolution)
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: The Chronicler on December 10, 2015, 07:15:26 PM
Now there's a color version of last week's high-resolution image.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/10/9888348...-enhanced-color (http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/10/9888348/pluto-new-horizons-images-badlands-enhanced-color)
Title: New Horizons flyby of Pluto
Post by: Ducky123 on December 13, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
Amazing, isn't it? :)