The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Noname on April 20, 2008, 07:01:36 PM
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I'm surprised that we don't have a topic about this character... we do now. What we know about her:
-She is a pink-colored oivraptor ("fast runner") with the tendency to reverse sentences.
-She is probably the fastest on the ground of all of the seven main characters.
-She is probably the oldest of them as well (she is larger than Chomper in spite of the huge gap between the sizes of their species when fully grown.)
-She is the only one of the seven to have never yet appeared in any of the movies.
-She and Chomper were forced to flee their parents and learn how to live together in the great valley.
-She and Chomper live in a series of caves.
-She has two parents still alive and two siblings.
Anything else?
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Chomper's parents asked her to look after him.
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She also seemed to enjoy that mud a lot... and she has no teeth.
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Yes, I had forgotten about those 2.
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she also repeats her self when she talks and she has feathers and a bird beak face is colorful like a parrot but is a dinosaur :^.^:
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She is an omnivore. There is an episode showing her eating a snapping shell.
She knows how to swim, also shown in an episode when she swims a bit underwater.
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-She is probably the oldest of them as well (she is larger than Chomper in spite of the huge gap between the sizes of their species when fully grown.)
I'm not sure about that. If you ask me, i think she's just a little older than everyone else. She just already have a "grown up's" personality. :)
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I was very skeptic when I first heard that the GOF was to be expanded in the TV series to become a GOS including not just Chomper, but also another character who (according to Aria) was initially meant to be named Ovie before her name was changed to Ruby.
As in so many other respects seeing the TV series did change my mind to some degree. They did manage to adopt the new characters without this move going at the expense of the role the other characters play and Ruby is a rather interesting character instead of a mere attempt to catch interest by just throwing a new name into the ring (as has been the case in some other series).
In some ways Ruby is different from all the other characters. While she is friendly and sociable, she also has moments when she wants to be alone with her thoughts which is something we haven't seen from the other characters (Littlefoot's "On your own" trip in LBT 6 was based on a different motivation). None of the other characters ever came up with anything like a "thinking place". Perhaps Ruby is the kind of character who thinks about many things the others won't bother with at all. Sometimes there is a melancholic trait about her too, because of her separation from her family (a trait which we might rather expect from characters like Littlefoot whose mother is dead rather than just somewhere else (which is the case with Littlefoot's Dad)). I sometimes wonder what is keeping Ruby's parents and her younger siblings from coming to the Great Valley too. And I also wonder if Ruby's diet has ever been the cause of uneasy feelings in the Great Valley. The snapping shell indicates that the authors of the series did not fail to notice her being an omnivore. Perhaps her ability to settle with green stuff too makes the matter easier than Chomper's case, but still I could see why expecting parents would not feel happy to have a potential egg eater anywhere near their nests. With Ruby being a very sensitive character a story along those lines might be quite interesting. I sometimes wonder if her being more reflective than most of the others makes her a bit more withdrawn herself. While she is very ready to encourage others to share their feelings with her and the others (e.g. her reaction to Cera admitting that she was scared) I think it takes a bit encouragement on the part of the others for her to speak about this.
More than any of the others Ruby is a thinker and loves to express her thoughts (sometimes very simple facts) in a somewhat tricky kind of talking (a habit which can be found among many people who think too much).
As for her age, we can draw some conclusion from the episode "The star day celebration". With all the star days shown in that episode we see that she is at least 6 years old, but possibly older. Being asked to take care of Chomper strongly suggests that she is older than him (very likely considering Chomper was born after the whole rest of the gang too) but I don't think she is necessarily the oldest. She may be, but I don't think any age difference between her and Littlefoot is very substantial. One might think that her greater knowledge might suggest her being older than the others, but in any case I hardly think that the claim that she is old enough to enjoy the "wisdom of ripe old age" would stand a test :lol
I guess her knowledge is probably based on her curious and reflective nature and perhaps partly on the fact that she spend most of her life in the Mysterious Beyond. There she probably lived a semi-nomadic life, that is she and her family were traveling but only within a limited area. That they were traveling rather than settled in one place is suggested by Ruby's knowing that her family will be at hanging rock on a particular day and that they are living within a limited area is suggested by the fact that Redclaw seems to be such a problem for them. They could just move out of his range if they were "far-travelers".
I think you Austin (landbeforetimelover) are the severest critic of Ruby. If memory doesn't fail me you once described her as "eudaimonia" with regard to the fact that she seemed to "enjoy the mud too much" in "The Mysterious Tooth Crisis". I am not really sure if enjoying being happy and enjoying to enjoy things is really a "flaw of character". You even have it in your declaration of independence as the "pursuit of happiness". I admit that she looked a bit drowsy in that scene, but what's wrong with that? It's not like she had taken some illegal drug or something.
One funny thing I notice is that even though you criticized Ruby for being eudaimonia, you still chose a picture of her looking very much like that for your signature. :lol
I guess I can relate to Ruby as she shares some of my own quirks while it may be more tricky to relate to her for anyone who does not.
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To me at least it doesn't make sense why her parents didn't go with her back to the gret valley when they had the chance to.
Likely I'd guess her family does move within a certain area. She seems to know a certain area of the Mysterious Beyond as if she had been traveling around within it.
She may be older, or may just seem older since she may think about things and perhaps asked her parents many questions. She may spend a bit of each day reflecting or thinking her experiences or just when she feels the need, a thing most of the gang seem less likely to do, except once in a while.
Also she may seem older since she had younger siblings and helped to look after them, or her nature may make her seem older then she is. It is difficult to try guess the gang's ages. The closest one could do would be perhaps to guess by what they often do, their knowledge of things and such like that. That would only give an age range equivalent to humans like 8-10, 6-10, or such like that.
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she got something i don't like,
but i don't know what :unsure:
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I think you Austin (landbeforetimelover) are the severest critic of Ruby. If memory doesn't fail me you once described her as "eudaimonia" with regard to the fact that she seemed to "enjoy the mud too much" in "The Mysterious Tooth Crisis". I am not really sure if enjoying being happy and enjoying to enjoy things is really a "flaw of character". You even have it in your declaration of independence as the "pursuit of happiness". I admit that she looked a bit drowsy in that scene, but what's wrong with that? It's not like she had taken some illegal drug or something.
One funny thing I notice is that even though you criticized Ruby for being eudaimonia, you still chose a picture of her looking very much like that for your signature. dino_laugh.gif
I guess I can relate to Ruby as she shares some of my own quirks while it may be more tricky to relate to her for anyone who does not.
Yes, I really do dislike this character. She seems too empty to me, but I suppose that's because we've all seen the others in longer movies rather than in short little clips like in the TV series. As for the character image in my signature, I needed something that was long for me to display text under and I thought the picture made her look like an addict of something. :lol
I cannot explain in full detail why I dislike Ruby so much. I do believe however that five characters is a very good amount of characters to have and that any more than that just wouldn't feel right. Maybe it wouldn't bother some of you, but some members haven't grown up with LBT like I have. It just seems like instead of adding a character, they're taking something away. I can't explain it rationally. Probably because it's just an opinion invoked by an emotion.
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The strangest thing about it is, that I would pretty much EXPECT myself to think exactly the way you do Austin. But in this case I am expecting my own expectations.
I was very skeptic about the TV series in general and I am really very disapproving of anything that doesn't seem like LBT. Nevertheless after seeing most of the episodes I must say that I think that some gaps not yet covered by any of the existing characters have been filled in with Ruby.
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I like Ruby personally, though I can see why some would dislike her. They are use to the gang from the movies and in the tv series it's a large change. I wonder what some would say if the gang of seven were Ali and Chomper being added to the gang instead of Ruby and Chomper.
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The "pursuit of happiness" in the declaration of independence needs three qualifiers for those from abroad:
1. It is in the Declaration of independence, not the Constitution, and as such, is not actually part of the laws.
2. The founders spoke of a pursuit of happiness, not necessarily the obtaining of it.
3. In keeping with our enlightenment/classical roots, the "happiness" described is along the lines of internal happiness and self-control; not mere physical pleasure. Happiness comes from within, not external circumstances.
This all relates to the fact that Ruby looked like she enjoyed the mud too much... a better example would be Cera getting upset that Chomper's tooth problem disrupted her from soaking in the mud; she seemed a little too attached to it. And the bad way she treated Chomper... we have nasty words in the U.S. for describing such nasty females...
Also, Ruby doesn't appear to be the most intelligent. She is probably the third most intelligent after Littlefoot and Cera; it is Littlefoot who comes up with most of the plans...
P.S. I don't know how other cultures react, but most Americans would view Ruby when she was relaxed as addicted. I know I do; she really sounded that way, and so did Cera.
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I mentioned it as part of a joke ;)
1. It is in the Declaration of independence, not the Constitution, and as such, is not actually part of the laws.
But does that make these truths any less self-evident?
2. The founders spoke of a pursuit of happiness, not necessarily the obtaining of it.
But pursuing something is usually based on the hope of obtaining it. If one permits anyone to pursue anything one risks that he or she may actually get it.
3. In keeping with our enlightenment/classical roots, the "happiness" described is along the lines of internal happiness and self-control; not mere physical pleasure. Happiness comes from within, not external circumstances.
If Ruby felt physically relaxed in that mud this may contribute to psychological happiness as well. Physical pleasure (and that needn't be more than a warm bath or a warm bed after a long day) may be one factor of psychological happiness and I don't see why it should be scorned as if our physical conditions were no part of our psychological state.
This all relates to the fact that Ruby looked like she enjoyed the mud too much... a better example would be Cera getting upset that Chomper's tooth problem disrupted her from soaking in the mud; she seemed a little too attached to it. And the bad way she treated Chomper... we have nasty words in the U.S. for describing such nasty females...
Is it really up to us to decide how much they should enjoy anything? I think I see what you are meaning, but your lines strongly suggest that you are interpreting way too much into the movie. Words to describe "such nasty females"???
Come on! Would it be alright for Spike only to enjoy that bath?
As for the claim of addiction, it was the only time ever we saw her there. And it is really not like a warm bath (remember they don't have water stand-pipes to turn whenever they want hot water, so it would be more spectacular for them than for us) could be compared to an illegal drug.
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Nevertheless after seeing most of the episodes I must say that I think that some gaps not yet covered by any of the existing characters have been filled in with Ruby.
I don't see what Ruby has brought to the gang except an evening out of gender, an annoying smart-mouth, and a babysitter for Chomper. I honestly see her as a useless character just made to fill time with her dumb sayings that are so obvious it really makes the TV series seem childish. She just doesn't fit in because she honestly doesn't have a true purpose that's worth a grain of salt in my opinion. I hope I didn't offend anybody, but this is my opinion.
I agree they needed another female character, but Ali would have been much better.
I mean, why couldn't Ali and Chomper have met out in the mysterious beyond and Ali's herd took him with them to the great valley? Then perhaps Ali could have taken the place of Ruby. As for the large amounts of dinosaurs, perhaps they could say that a lot of their herd had died off from disease and they had to come to the great valley, bringing Chomper with them? That would have been so much better than adding some weird pink smart-mouthed dinosaur to the gang.
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Well, we DO hear that Spike, Cera, and Ruby are at the mud pools again in a later episode... the one with Hyp, Nod, and Mutt returning in it (
And the point about pursuit of happiness is important; because since it is only the pursuit which is self-evident, no one could sue (even if it was the law, which it isn't) the government because they were unhappy.
As for happiness... we all know that it must come from within; there are plenty of people with all of the physical and material things they say they want, but they are still unhappy.
EDIT: And Spike didn't yell at Chomper. Cera did. Even if Spike could yell, he probably wouldn't.
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As for happiness... we all know that it must come from within; there are plenty of people with all of the physical and material things they say they want, but they are still unhappy.
Now that's a topic in of itself, right there.
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And its so true. Ever watched Citizen Kane?
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Spike has yelled only twice, once in the 4th movie and once in the 8th movie, both under extreme emotions, I'll not say details to avoid spoilers.
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No offense taken here, LBTL ;). I think they wanted to add another smarta** to the series as a means to back Cera up but were not very successful. Ruby seems to be a sweet character but such a role does not fit her. Being a smarta** is Cera's trademark; no other character can take her spot. On top of that, Cera's good at it 'cuz she has wit :yes. Ruby seems to make the role of smarta** annoying, not cute like Cera's :lol.
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One thing Ruby does bring is someone who knows some things of the mysterious beyond.
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By this time, all of them should know something about it. How many times have Littlefoot and the rest of the original five been in the mysterious beyond? And didn't they live there for some time in the fifth movie, waiting for the valley to replenish itself after being hit by a swarm of locusts?
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Bringing Ali and Chomper in would have made sense in the mid-90s when the characters were still fresh. and yes, Ruby's speaking while soaking in the mud did bring to mind someone who is under the influence. "Stoned" is the American word for it, I don't know if there is a german equivalent. Ruby does not bring equality in numbers, since you'd need an even number to do that. you'd have to bring in Ali,or some other female, and then you'd have the Gang Of 8, which would be even more unweildy. 4 females, Ali, Cera, Ducky and Ruby, 4 males, Chomper, Littlefoot petrie and Spike.
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No offense taken here, LBTL wink.gif. I think they wanted to add another smarta** to the series as a means to back Cera up but were not very successful. Ruby seems to be a sweet character but such a role does not fit her. Being a smarta** is Cera's trademark; no other character can take her spot. On top of that, Cera's good at it 'cuz she has wit in-yes.gif. Ruby seems to make the role of smarta** annoying, not cute like Cera's dino_laugh.gif.
I really don't see Cera and Ruby as comparable. Cera is a totally different character. I don't even know if Cera could be labeled a "smarta**" at all. She does not usually pretend to be particularly smart while she isn't (and isn't that what makes a "smarta**" a "smarta**"?). Cera usually boasts with a not too clearly defined feeling of threehorn superiority or with her strength, but I don't recall a case where she is really claiming to be smarter than anyone else.
Ruby does not claim this either, but several times she does actually prove more capable at some more complex tasks than some of the others. An example that comes to my mind is that she is the one to think of tying several vines together in order to get a vine long enough to reach Spike in the episode "Stranger from the Mysterious Above".
Figuring out such "trickier tasks" is not something that would require experience from the Mysterious Beyond in particular but rather a degree of logic and constructive thinking which in this degree cannot be found by any of the other LBT characters. Ruby does talk rather weird, but she is by no means the first LBT character to do so. Their different ways of talking do so much to make the characters individual and personally I don't find even Ruby's self explanatory comments any more annoying than for example Petrie's grammar (which I don't find annoying at all). I don't see her as a bragging character (whenever there is any reference to her being smart it comes from someone else) either. "Smarta**" doesn't really seem to be a proper description of Ruby as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps "whizkid" is closer to the mark?
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Malte raises some interesting and true points. If one had to put that smart.... label on someone it would fit Cera more then Ruby since I don't recall Ruby ever talking about how smart she is or smarter then anyone else. Ruby is smarter in at least certain ways then the others. This could be due to her being a little older then the others, or perhaps due to her being smarter in certain ways to the others, or perhaps other reasons as well.
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Ruby is older than the others, in all likelihood and she is more aware of certain issues regarding the mysterious beyond. Still, Littlefoot is the one which solves most of the problems... and unlike Ruby, he never has redundant or backwards sentences.
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I really hate how Ruby says stuff. It's like she says it to be annoying. One example of this that comes to mind is:
The sooner we get going, the sooner we'll be on our way
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Perhaps some help would help you
She speaks like this many times during each episode, making the show more childish. Most of the things she says are meaningless and they just restate what the other characters say (unless she's talking about herself). It's just cheesy and pointless to have her talk that way. Petrie's grammar is necessary to illustrate the characters age, however Ruby's way of talking is pretty pointless and brings absolutely nothing to the story. I also hate how she's drawn. What an odd creature. She's almost as bad as the yellow bellies. -_-
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I wonder who came up with her way of speaking? A group or the scriptwriter of the first episode.
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While I admit Ruby herself as a character has grown on me...but the way she speaks actually reminds me of Yoda 90% of the time. Which in turn may be why I enjoy her character having screen time.
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I wonder if the person who come up with her way of speaking is a fan of Star Wars, or if that is a coincidence.
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Out of all the newbies for the TV series, I find that I like Ruby the best. She adds a real different angle to the series, and can be seen to contrast a bit with the Original Five.
Ruby is pretty I think, now apperance aside she's also the most relaxed character. She seems to be almost Zen-like in her actions, always keeping cool and never panicked.
Also her way of speaking reminds me of Yoda, I think that's a nice touch there, and it fits in with her Zen nature.
Oh btw, Hi! It's Joseph from wayyyy back in the day B)
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Out of all the newbies for the TV series, I find that I like Ruby the best. She adds a real different angle to the series, and can be seen to contrast a bit with the Original Five.
Ruby is pretty I think, now apperance aside she's also the most relaxed character. She seems to be almost Zen-like in her actions, always keeping cool and never panicked.
I like Ruby for these reasons myself. She's also the most mature of all of the characters.:)
I really don't see Cera and Ruby as comparable. Cera is a totally different character. I don't even know if Cera could be labeled a "smarta**" at all. She does not usually pretend to be particularly smart while she isn't (and isn't that what makes a "smarta**" a "smarta**"?). Cera usually boasts with a not too clearly defined feeling of threehorn superiority or with her strength, but I don't recall a case where she is really claiming to be smarter than anyone else.
I agree with this too. I don't believe Ruby is being a smart a**, she's just intelligent in general. Cera is very boastful, loud, insensitive, and stubborn, while Ruby is a MUCH more mature character and is gentle in her ways.
On top of that, Cera's good at it 'cuz Ruby seems to make the role of smarta** annoying, not cute like Cera's
I know both Ruby and Cera are very strong girls, but I don't think Ruby is nessisarily taking Cera's place. And, I completely disagree with you on Cera making that smart a** role "cute". In my strong opinion, there is NOTHING cute about it. Sorry, I have an extreme dislike of Cera for MANY reasons... <_<
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She is an interesting character and an interesting addition to the gang. Her personality is interesting as well.
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Oh btw, Hi! It's Joseph from wayyyy back in the day
Joseph? Joe the corona guy from the N54 LBT forum? :)
Out of all the newbies for the TV series, I find that I like Ruby the best.
That one is relatively easy though, as with the exception of Redclaw and his sidekicks (and Ruby's family) Ruby is the only newbie to turn up in more than one episode if I'm not very mistaken (I haven't seen all episodes yet).
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I completely disagree with you on Cera making that smart a** role "cute". In my strong opinion, there is NOTHING cute about it. Sorry, I have an extreme dislike of Cera for MANY reasons...
I agree with you. I don't think Cera's behavior is cute at all. I do understand why she acts this way sometimes and I respect it. Cera is one of my favorite characters because of this. I really love Cera. Even though she has a father like hers, she hasn't become totally corrupted. If I had to pick a least favorite "good" character, it'd have to be Ruby. I don't think the movies really need another character to make them good. They've lived 13 movies without her and they're not gonna suffer without her. :p
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Joseph? Joe the corona guy from the N54 LBT forum? :)
That would be me ^v^
And I agree with LBTlover. Ruby is a good character, but we don't really need her in Episode 14 (movie not TV ep mind you :p). Unless fan response to her is through the room, a la Chomper, there's not really a good reason to put her in the movie continuity anytime soon.
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She can be kept a tv series only character. They could tell more of her back story in more flashbacks, though I guess some things will be left unsaid like how Chomper got off the island and accepted by all the adults in the Great Valley, and how Ruby got asked to look after Chomper by his parents.
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I guess I agree with that one. I generally like Ruby as a character and I think that she filled up some holes in the range of personal traits covered by the other characters. I would not be hugely upset over a sequel featuring Ruby, but if I was given the choice I guess I would still go for GOF instead of GOS.
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It may be best to keep the gang in the movies at 5 since that is what most folks are use to. Though adding in the 2 from the tv series could be interesting and after a while they may, if the tv series has several seasons.
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Annoying! Is one word but she seems to be know it all when it comes to sharptooth.Does she know everything about them?She sounds arrognant to me when talking about sharpteeth and others. She believes if she learns how the dinos in the great valley live she will save all dinokind. Give me a break. Talk to the meteor or did they die from rats eating their eggs. She is a little bit to self righteous for her own good and even stuck up. Chomper' parents ask her to take care of baby which is a bit crazy.Why would anyone in trust their baby to her? I don't know about you but I always thought baby sharpteeth were hard to take care of and I thought Chomper is pretty hard. He is little too smart, curious,eager and imaginative. She isn't doing a good job in my opinion and it would be better for him to be with his parents or with another sharptooth. She suppose to protect him from Redclaw but sometimes I wonder if he would do a better job of teaching Chomper to survive in the mysterious beyond or taken care of him. :mad Ruby is still a kid herself and still pretty immature to take care of herself without being responible for someone's elses baby.
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Well... Ruby may be larger than Chomper, but it is hard to see how she could keep him safe... she has no teeth, no ability to really fight, and her only defense is running away...
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I wouldn't mind Ruby coming in for a movie of land before time, after all there are some key points that were left unexplained when she came in and even if i prefer the GOF i favour continuity and the storyline making sense more.
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Noname and rosie, you both bring up a good point.
Ruby is not an adult or even an adolescent; why would Chomper's parents entrust her with their only son? Furthermore, she can't protect him.
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It could be that they assumed she and Chomper would remain with her parents, or maybe eventually go to the Great Valley where they knew he'd be safe and / or Chomper's friends they met on the island live.
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Ruby ain't all that great to begin with. Not saying I don't like her she's ok (for the series that is), but shes is SO out of everybody's league that's is how much an unexpected character she really is.
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They should have introduced her formally, with her arriving in the valley in the first episode, rather than making her just pop in and then explaining her appearance retroactively.
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Well... Ruby may be larger than Chomper, but it is hard to see how she could keep him safe... she has no teeth, no ability to really fight, and her only defense is running away...
Just because an animal doesn’t have teeth doesn’t mean it can’t bite. Trust me; a scarlet macaw nipped me on the forearm once. It wasn’t much more than an annoyed pinch, and the fact that I was wearing a long-sleeved shirt meant that the bite didn’t even pierce the skin, and yet I still had a substantial bruise on that arm for at least two weeks afterwards (I didn’t hold it against the macaw, though :p). And while I can’t imagine a bite from Ruby would do much against a large sharptooth (though, for that matter, neither would one from Chomper), I have considerable respect for the jaw strength of any dinosaur that can pulverize a clam into a swallowable mouthful in about eight bites without the aid of teeth. :o
P.S. I am working on a mammoth post (more of a thesis, really) detailing my theories about Ruby, her home, family, species, and mission, that I will be posting here sometime in the near future (provided it doesn’t end up needing its own thread). Just thought I’d get this out of the way first. ;)
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I hope they will explain more about her in LBT 14 if there is any.
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I do not suppose Ruby was placed "in charge" of Chomper for matters of brawn or because anyone thought that she would be able to beat up any attackers. 12 year old kids are (in a temporary absence of their parents) not placed in charge of their 7 year old brother or sister because the parents think that the 12 year old could deal with dangerous situations by violent means but rather because the parents would consider the 12 year old "experienced" enough to avoid some dangerous situations in the first place. Given Chomper's extreme youth (though we admittedly don't see it very pronounced in the series) this may have been the line of thinking of Chomper's parents. Furthermore Ruby's role may have been sort of "diplomatic" in nature as she would be less likely than Chomper to provoke any immediate attack the moment she was spotted by a leafeater and she may be well suited to sort out stuff for Chomper with the leafeaters. I wonder if Ruby may have played quite an important role in how Chomper was accepted in the Great Valley in the first place. After all she is considered to be kind of a convincing speaker as well as a reasonable thinker. Both of these are factors which are more likely than any thought of physical strength to have played a role in the apparent decision of Chomper's parents to let Ruby take care of Chomper.
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I think it was her age (older than Chomper), along with the fact that she could marginally take care of herself that made her his "babysitter." She might not have to watch him if he grows up too much in the valley; we don't know how long she and him have been separated from their families, after all.
I was also thinking that Ruby might be able to carry Chomper and run; she is, as her Land Before Time Species name suggests, a "fast-runner", so if she needed to get him out of danger quickly, she might be able to. There is also some suggestion that she might be under a lot of stress watching over Chomper; she said that it would be good to "let herself go" when asked if she wanted to go to the mud pool...
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If Ruby does appear in a movie (though I hope she doesn't), you've got to ask yourself what she would look like. After all, LF and co look a lot different in the movies than in the TV series. It's reasonable to assume that Ruby would look a lot different too if she was placed into a real movie.
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They don't look THAT different, although the movies generally had higher-quality animation than the TV series, at least, after movie 8... anyway, Ruby will probably not appear in a film... or ever again, if the series is indeed can celled and cannot be brought back, as might be the case.
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Most likely. I would dislike it if they would put Ruby in the movies.
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Personaly, I think it would be good if they put Ruby in a sequel, it would be nice to have an ok character in the sequels that doesn't completely annoy everyone. :p
Anyhow, I'll believe it when I see it. And if a movie does come out...I doubt I'll watch it...I'm sorry but I really lost all that faith in LBT to do anything good or decent anymore...
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I don't like ruby.
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Personally I regret that so far Ruby is lacking a real background story. As a character she was in a sense a logical supplement to the existing Gang as there was no "wizkid" in the Gang until she came along. I really think she can add a lot to a story.
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I don't like ruby.
Yeah, me either. I wish she would have left in that episode....."Return to Hanging Rock" or something like that. But anyway, she's obviously here to stay and I bet she'll be in it if there's another sequel.
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Misspelled "quote" in the quote tag. :oops
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I don't like ruby.
Me neither.. doesn't fit to the gang. Just a bad idea from that new female director.
Can you guys say what you don't like about Ruby?
I don't mean to nag you guys, I'm just curious why you have a dislike of her. What is it? Her looks? Personality, quirks? What?
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Can you guys say what you don't like about Ruby?
I really don't like the way she looks. Pink is not a good color for a dinosaur, sorry. Cera's color was bad enough (though it was better and more realistic in the earlier sequels). She's so drastically different from the gang, she just doesn't fit in. I really don't like her character either. I feel she dumbs down the series. Always stating the obvious and restating things that don't need to be restated. I also don't think her reactions are very realistic or drawn very well and I don't like her voice. She just doesn't fit in with the rest of the gang in my opinion.
They would've been better off adding Ali instead of Chomper and Ruby. Though Chomper and Ali would have been acceptable too. I still would've rather had just Ali join the gang that Ali and Chomper though.
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Always stating the obvious and restating things that don't need to be restated.
I.. kinda like her because of that. Makes her somewhat unique, IMO. :p
It's kinda like her version of Ducky's "yep yep yep". :lol
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I don't like ruby.
Me neither.. doesn't fit to the gang. Just a bad idea from that new female director.
Can you guys say what you don't like about Ruby?
I don't mean to nag you guys, I'm just curious why you have a dislike of her. What is it? Her looks? Personality, quirks? What?
She looks like an imaginary creature with it's pink colour. And she's like an adult.
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I don't mind Ruby but she is of course a bit unnatural. While I wish she has a back story, for a personality like hers it would be difficult. The TV series has made it even more difficult for a good sequel and doing a back story for Ruby would be the best idea. One thing for sure is that they could have changed Ruby's species and give her a more natural personality.
You know Ruby does not have to be a dinosaur there were other creatures during the times of the dinosaurs. She could have been Tickles species but no.
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Ruby was not the first character of unusual colors in LBT though. The sudden love for rose colored dinosaurs already showed with Tria and Tricia (two characters I find more difficult than Ruby to integrate into the LBT universe because of all the unanswered questions about Cera's original family). The coloring of Mo was that of a freaked out Pokemon and thinking of odd colored dinosaurs, what was the name of that purple colored sharptooth again... Barney? Oh my god no, it was Chomper!!! :lol
One thing that I kind of like about Ruby is that with a little bit of fantasy she may actually be the answer to some questions which the sequels left unanswered. For example the question why Chomper could talk just fine in LBT 5 while all the contact with leafeater language speakers we knew about were a few hours after his hatching. If perhaps he got to know Ruby shortly afterwards she may have worked as a teacher (and in doing that may have acquired some of her repetitive speaking patterns).
Her having spend most of her life in the Mysterious Beyond and as a member of a species that may be so much of a subject to prejudices (omnivores) that she may have developed less prejudices of her own having recognized the stupidity of the same (the later point being one that was not given for Ali) may both contribute to her bonus in experience and knowledge.
But still she is not some kind of perfect know it all. We do see her get annoyed if the interests of others get in the way of her own interests and she has an occasional melancholic trait about being separated from her family (by the way one of the relatively few intact families we ever saw in LBT) which I think would have been fitting for some other LBT characters as well.
When I first heard about Ruby I expected a character that was created purely as a common trick to reawaken interest in a show by just spawning a new character. To some degree this may indeed be the case with Ruby, but in my opinion they did take good care to really make her a character to fill out some of the existing gaps rather than creating just a new character for the sake of a new name in the show.
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Well, I kinda liked Ruby. She's different in personality, and I like that sort of thing... and I thought they did cover quite a bit regarding her character (such as with The Star Day Celebration and Return to Hanging Rock), considering how many limitations they had with the show. The only thing I don't like is the way she looks... she looks nothing like an Oviraptor. She should've been a Velociraptor (The feathery little ones, not a Utahraptor).
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I thought she resembled an oviraptor pretty well. Not perfect (then again none of the LBT characters perfectly resemble the species they are supposed to be far as I know) but well enough that it isn't too difficult to guess what her species is.
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She looked close enough to me last time I checked:
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh475/Malte279/Patrick%20Gustav%2008%2009/12Ovieraptor_Malte.jpg)
We don't know anything certain about the colors of dinosaurs. Along with the discovery of feathers on dinosaur came also theories that some species may have been colored quite differently from the way they had always been pictured. Even among living lizards and amphibians (not to mention birds) there are some kinds which are rather colorful.
Personally I like the choice of species. An omnivore is something new (though they haven't really exploited the fact that she is an omnivore in their plots so far) while a velociraptor would have been "just another sharptooth".
I admit I am a bit biased against raptors myself.
PS: I am going to move the posts discussing Ruby to the Ruby thread in the character discussion section soon.
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Ruby is like captain obvious
http://imgsrv.kmbz.com/image/kmbz/UserFile...ain_obvious.jpg (http://imgsrv.kmbz.com/image/kmbz/UserFiles/Image/Brian%5C's%20Pics/captain_obvious.jpg)
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I personally have nothin' against Ruby. I like her, but I'm not as fond of her as I am of the original Gang of Littlefoot, Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike. It feels like havin' the same circle of friends for many years, and then all of a sudden a newcomer joins the group. It takes awhile to get over the awkwardness and see him or her as a part of the group :yes. Still, I like Ruby, and I don't particularly care for the negativity that has been expressed simply based on the fact that she is different, but each to his or her own I guess. I find that I can relate to Ruby 'cuz we're both unique. She almost reminds me of a female with Guido's consciousness, and Guido is a character I share a lot of similarities with :yes. I was always known as "the weird kid" throughout my childhood, and I think Ruby is given that label by many LBT fans, so I see a good amount of myself in this character, but I'm still very much a blend of Cera and Ducky :lol.
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Ruby is also the first "core" character to have feather and to be able to run really fast. Hmm... she can't really fight, though. Still, no one expects her to.
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I really don't know how to feel about Ruby. I like her, but I don't like her. It's kind of hard for me to write her dialoge in my fanfictions. I find her repeating of a lot of stuff annoying, though.
"Those treestars that aren't yours aren't yours!"
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I know. It is more annoying to me than it is endearing. Ruby isn't like Ducky at ALL in that way. :DD
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I though Ruby was a really nice new character in the gang. She's nice and friendly, and she brings realistic personalities and abilities that no one else in the gang has. For example, she is skilled at telling stories, which no one else in the gang seems to be good at. Also, she has a LOT of potential. Because much of her history and character is still a mystery, the makers of LBT can shape her personality into a personality they need for a particular movie. She can lead to some new adventures (such as "The Return to Hanging Rock" and "The Spooky Nighttime Adventure", and she adds a new personality to the gang. :lol
Neither Jychara or I liked Ruby at first, but we're both young (13 and 14), and we're both open-minded. Once we really got to familiarize with Ruby, we both started to like her.
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My only wish about Ruby is that we got to learn more about her. Her story seems very incomplete, as if a new season would have explained her background more, how she got to know Chomper, and why Chomper's parents didn't try to eat her and her family on the spot. And why they would trust their only son to the care of a "fast-runner."
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Heh, this morning I told my Dad about Ruby while on the way to school (he's only familiar w/ the early films) and he was like, "What's she? The dinosaur version of Britney Spears?" And I laughed cause at the time the series was made Britney Spears was goin crazy and shavin' her head and whatnot.
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But anyways I really think she's great. When I first saw the series on TV in April 2007 and I saw she and Chomper had been added to the gang I was disapointed the new girl in the gang wasn't Ali, but she's grown on me. She kind, smart, and best of all, not annoying! :D I really like both her and Chomper---they were great additions to the series, which was for the most part bad. I was angry that the adults also blamed her and Chomper in "The Hidden Canyon" when they weren't a part of the gang's "getting high on fruit" party (although I thought it actually sounded like fun...if I were an Iguanodon living in the great valley I would have joined in their little party and ate to my heart's content! :D )
Oh, and her singing voice is soooooo much better then Britney Spears'! :lol (See my post above to understand the joke)
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Has anyone noticed besides myself that Ruby is the most feathered, non bird-like, dinosaur that we have seen in film and t.v.? She easily outdoes those male raptors in Jurassic Park III for sure, for far less effort and cost! How is Universal going to explain this? :lol
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I like Ruby a lot, but I'll admit they could have played with her role as the responsible one a bit more. One thing I'd have like to have seen was an episode that shows the sacrafices she makes to her free time and personal enjoyment to take care of Chomper. It can't be easy taking care of another kid all by yourself at her age, and to see how hard the job can be for her would have made for some good stories.
I think they did touch on her sacrafices a little bit where they show how she's had to live away from her family to maintain her obligations, but I can't think of anything big other than that. For me, the angle of her being a young girl with a powerful sense of responsibility and sacrafice is the most interesting way to depict her, and that they could have explored that part of her character more.
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At first, I didn't know much about Ruby, although, having watched the first two episodes, I immediately fell in love with her. She holds this personality that is unique from all the others.
Her way of speaking is a bit annoying at time, but i have excepted that that is the way she is.
After all, she was the reason I came back to this franchise. I fell out of it a while ago, but when I found out about Ruby, I was hooked. :smile
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Ruby definitely adds more girl power to the Gang. Ducky embodies the innocence and trusting one, Cera the tough and tomboy one, and Ruby the thinker and experimenter one.
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I like Ruby a lot, but I'll admit they could have played with her role as the responsible one a bit more. One thing I'd have like to have seen was an episode that shows the sacrafices she makes to her free time and personal enjoyment to take care of Chomper. It can't be easy taking care of another kid all by yourself at her age, and to see how hard the job can be for her would have made for some good stories.
I think they did touch on her sacrafices a little bit where they show how she's had to live away from her family to maintain her obligations, but I can't think of anything big other than that. For me, the angle of her being a young girl with a powerful sense of responsibility and sacrafice is the most interesting way to depict her, and that they could have explored that part of her character more.
I like her alright as-is but I think this could've been a unique angle to take :RubyCurious
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I really feel her and Chomper where underused in LBTXIV. At last the Gang of Seven was in a movie, and they aplit them up, and basically made a Gang of Five film again.
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I was upset when I first watched the 14th movie. Sure, I definitely enjoyed it, being the lbt fan that I am, but I don't see why they didn't add in the rest of the gang. Chomper and Ruby just stayed with the grown ups, which was awkward to watch.
I do see some reasons on why they had left them out. Having to draw lots of characters in one scene can be a struggle at times, and I guess they considered that pretty well when they were story boarding the movie.
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I was also really disappointed Chomper and Ruby were so underused in XIV. :( I'm sure my hopes were up too high (heck, I was practically hoping for an origin story on how they became friends, came to the valley, etc.) but at the same time...was it too much to ask for ONE movie featuring the Gang of Seven?
Then again, I suppose I should be grateful that Universal even remembered Ruby existed, because that in itself actually did surprise me. And it was nice that they brought her original voice back, too.
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I'll have to agree on that. At least they acknowlaged that she exists. And now that you've mentioned it, Meghan Strange came back to voice her, but in my opinion she sounded more high pitched than in the tv series.
Didi anyone else notice that?