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Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Ryuukokoro on February 02, 2007, 10:31:53 PM
I am SO thrilled with episode six! It's definitely my fave so far. We have injury, fire, Sharpteeth galore, the Mysterious Beyond, everything rolled together! When Red Claw jumped out after Petrie was talking about bad luck again, I was actually taken by surprise!  :blink:

I think the animation in this episode is MUCH better. The characters' faces were not so deformed as the other episodes. I would even say it looked like movie-quality animation (well, from what I could tell from the recording, anyway!)

I love Spike's 'talking' hee hee. He makes the cutest sounds! And yay for a return of a song from the movies, Adventuring!

The plot was pretty good too. I think traveling to see the gysers is cute and a believeable thing for the kids to do. Petrie's character remains a little over the top, but I can live with it. He's cute.  :P: Plus he mentioned Uncle Pterano! Yay!

My only problem is that in this episode they made the Mysterious Beyond into some normal place that isn't mysterious at all. Firstly, they never show how the kids got out there. It's supposed to be blocked off from the Valley, isn't it? Secondly, the kids never once mention that the adults don't want them to go out there or ask the adults permission, and from what we've seen of the movies we know that is true. We never see the adults in this episode at all, so we don't know their reaction. The episode ends before the kids really return home, so we don't see the kids getting in trouble for being out there.

So is the series going to make the Mysterious Beyond just another setting for the kids to go to and have adventures? Time will tell, I suppose!
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Noname on February 02, 2007, 11:05:56 PM
Do you think the mention of Pterano could be hinting at a possible guest appearance of him? (presumably NOT played by Michael York.)
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Ratiasu on February 03, 2007, 12:02:30 AM
Hurrah for a Pterano mention! And Redclaw (I remember someone saying he had a scar over his eye. It actually went down to his claws. o_o; Jeez, what bit him?)! Did anyone else think the JP1 Velociraptor noises he made sometimes were a bit too high-pitched for a T. Rex? Where were his dromaeosaur buddies? Greatly animated episode, by the way. Okay songs, I liked the tribal, Africanish music. I don't care much for Ruby, though - she seems like a character that was added in just 'because.'

When the gang ran away from the fire...did anyone else think the animation was sped up? Never seen Spike or anyone else run so fast in all my life. Petrie was adorable in this episode, with his paranoia of bad luck. Cera's jumping-on-the-log-and-crushing-it was badass. :lol: I still want to see that Ankylosaur from the berry episode come back...and maybe a couple rogue Pachycephalosaurs...just for kicks.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: trexmaster on February 03, 2007, 03:35:18 AM
Quote from: Ratiasu,Feb 2 2007 on  11:02 PM
Hurrah for a Pterano mention! And Redclaw (I remember someone saying he had a scar over his eye. It actually went down to his claws. o_o; Jeez, what bit him?)! Did anyone else think the JP1 Velociraptor noises he made sometimes were a bit too high-pitched for a T. Rex? Where were his dromaeosaur buddies?
You'd think they'd give him the voice of the JP1 T. rex. At least the LBT production team can get away with using Jurassic Park sounds, since JP and LBT come from the same company (I wonder if they'll stick in something from Peter Jackson's recent King Kong remake too?).

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Okay songs, I liked the tribal, Africanish music.

Somehow that sounds very appropriate for a prehistoric jungle.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: NewOrder on February 03, 2007, 09:06:21 AM
I found interesting the innuendo to LBT 5, 6 and 7. Remember Chomper's Dad smelling Spike and saying "something that smells so bad can't taste that good  :D "
What about redclaw's scar, didn't it look an awful like Doc's? Not to mention the hole bad luck, quest to the mysterious beyond thing =P
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Littlefoot Fan on February 03, 2007, 01:45:23 PM
I agree, this is without a doubt, the best one so far! Heh, I loved how panicked Petrie was about this bad luck thing :P:. And I laughed when Cera yelled "Stupid mud!" while they were slipping :lol

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Cera's jumping-on-the-log-and-crushing-it was badass.
Haha, I was thinking the same thing :lol:
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Ratiasu on February 03, 2007, 02:06:10 PM
Quote from: trexmaster,Feb 3 2007 on  02:35 AM
(I wonder if they'll stick in something from Peter Jackson's recent King Kong remake too?).
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I hope not. The T. Rexes sounded exactly like pigs in King Kong. I was extremely disappointed. As for the scar and the bad luck and the smelly mud stuff, it did remind me of Land Before Time 6. I wished we could see Doc again, if only in the background, even though I honestly thing he was just a ghost or spirit, given the nature of how he left in the movie. As for the voice of the JP1 T. Rex for Redclaw, they did that most of the time, mainly that deep threatening growling instead of the full out famous roar. I like the "stupid mud!" line too. I'm beginning to wonder if there's any way to contact the creators of the series - I mean, I know some professionals, or whatever you wish to call them, actually respond to e-mails and such.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: trexmaster on February 03, 2007, 11:32:19 PM
Quote from: Ratiasu,Feb 3 2007 on  01:06 PM
Quote from: trexmaster,Feb 3 2007 on  02:35 AM
(I wonder if they'll stick in something from Peter Jackson's recent King Kong remake too?).
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I hope not. The T. Rexes sounded exactly like pigs in King Kong. I was extremely disappointed.
The raptors did make noises similar to the Terapusmordaxes from the King Kong game.

I don't think a sound from King Kong would necessarily be bad, so long as it's a roar (like that of a V. rex or Kong) instead of a noise of one of the "smaller" monsters.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: pokeplayer984 on February 04, 2007, 10:15:04 AM
Indeed, this is the best ep thus far.  When was the last time fire appeared in the series?  Wasn't it LBT 3?  Why did they keep such a dangerous thing off for so long?  It's so great to use. :^.^:

Then we have a reference to LBT 5, Spike smelling bad.

Now, let me comment on the bad luck thing.  In LBT 6, didn't Petrie say, "Me no believe in bad luck."?  If you ask me, I guess something changed his mind. :D

A reference to Pterano.  We haven't seen that guy since LBT 7.  It would be nice to see him again.  However, he was banished for 5 cold times.  I'd say that at least 3 have passed since then.  Are we doomed to never see him again or will the gang run into him somewhere in the Mysterious Beyond?  Quite frankly, I'd love to see him again. :)

Ah!  The "Adventuring" song from LBT 10 makes a comeback.  Same deal with "Good Times, Good Friends" from Episode 4.  I'm beginning to wonder if "Bestest Friends" will come back.  IMO, it's the greatest LBT song ever made.  Maybe we'll get that when Ruby and Chomper leave by the end of the series. (Yes, I'm expecting them to leave by then and we'll be back to calling them "The Gang of Five".)

And we see Red Claw and his velociraptor minions attack the gang for the first time.  I'm seriously beginning to wonder what gave him such a cut myself.  In fact, I wonder if he's blind in that red eye of his. :) The only sad thing is that he was beaten by a bad smelling Spike.  Isn't it better to have one of the grownups beat them up or have the gang pumbell them with rocks and such? :lol: This sort of defeat made him look weak if you ask me, and that's just sad.  He's supposed to be the main villian of the TV Series. -_- Then again, I would want to stay away from a bad smell myself, so I can't blame him too much. <_<

Well, might as well get working on those songs.  This will actually be easy this time around, based on the fact that they're referenced to earlier songs. :)

So if you're reading this, expect them later today, Action. :^.^:
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: pokeplayer984 on February 04, 2007, 06:53:24 PM
As I relistend to the songs, I noticed how Spike got quite the role in them.  I don't think I've heard him hum so much since "Bad Luck" in LBT 6.  He's quite the "hummer"! :lol:

Oh, and I decided to watch Spike tumbling into the "stinky poll" again just for laughs.  And I noticed something.  He actually said "shit" right before he landed in the "stinky poll".

Now, if none of you agree, I won't blame you based on the fact that it's hard to hear.  You have to listen VERY carefully to hear it. (You may only get "shi" at most.)

I can't believe Universal did this!  In my knowledge of vulgar language, that's a pretty harsh word.  Do you think they're pushing the G rate with that in it?

Then again, I did see Disney get away with it in "The Proud Family" by covering up one of the charcters saying "Oh my god!" by having the rest say "Oh my gosh!" at the exact same time.  Amazing how, if you do it right, you can get away with it. :^.^:
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Littlefoot Fan on February 04, 2007, 07:34:20 PM
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Oh, and I decided to watch Spike tumbling into the "stinky poll" again just for laughs. And I noticed something. He actually said "shit" right before he landed in the "stinky poll".

Now, if none of you agree, I won't blame you based on the fact that it's hard to hear. You have to listen VERY carefully to hear it. (You may only get "shi" at most.)

I can't believe Universal did this! In my knowledge of vulgar language, that's a pretty harsh word. Do you think they're pushing the G rate with that in it?
I just listened to it, and it does indeed sound like he's saying that. But there's no way they could have intended this. Why would they? Especially when Spike has only said a select few words in the entire history of LBT. Why would they even think to make his next word utterly pointless and vulgar :blink:
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: DarkHououmon on February 04, 2007, 08:34:45 PM
I agree. I don't think it was intended to sound like sh*t.

And about how Redclaw got the cut, I thought that perhaps he got into a fight with another sharptooth, perhaps one of Chomper's parents, or another sharptooth. Perhaps in a fight, his opponent slashed him with one of their two-clawed hands, the same way Doc got his scar from the legendary sharptooth in LBT6.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Ryuukokoro on February 05, 2007, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: Littlefoot Fan,Feb 4 2007 on  06:34 PM
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I just listened to it, and it does indeed sound like he's saying that. But there's no way they could have intended this. Why would they? Especially when Spike has only said a select few words in the entire history of LBT. Why would they even think to make his next word utterly pointless and vulgar :blink:
I completely agree. Usually voice actors have to make a whole bunch of odd sounds for when their characters are being thrown around, tumbling, tripping, falling, etc. etc. It just happened that that noise sounds like a swear. I'm sure it was unintentional.

(Honestly, to me it sounds like he said "Ah-shoo!" like a sneeze. But I don't think he was really sneezing right there, I think it just sounds like it.)
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: pokeplayer984 on March 12, 2007, 10:06:28 AM
Well, I saw it's US airing today, and it seems that the writer's caught this mistake.  They reedited it and so that it sounded like "ouchie"!  Nice move, Universal. :)
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Noname on March 12, 2007, 11:59:25 AM
Yes, but we have the episode where it sounds like Spike has a foul mouth :D

I wonder if this is some sort of obscure fan thing that only people like us would know about or care about...

Not that I care about it very much...
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Nick22 on March 12, 2007, 12:06:52 PM
The episode was a lot better than I expected. The vcharacters werre cute, and I think they found a good voice for littlefoot this time.. his last two voices haven't been that good...
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Littlefoot Fan on March 12, 2007, 07:07:00 PM
Agreed Nick. I hated some of his voices, especially in movie 11 :x
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: landbeforetimelover on April 19, 2007, 06:46:43 AM
Quote from: Ryuukokoro,Feb 2 2007 on  09:31 PM
I am SO thrilled with episode six! It's definitely my fave so far. We have injury, fire, Sharpteeth galore, the Mysterious Beyond, everything rolled together! When Red Claw jumped out after Petrie was talking about bad luck again, I was actually taken by surprise!  :blink:

I think the animation in this episode is MUCH better. The characters' faces were not so deformed as the other episodes. I would even say it looked like movie-quality animation (well, from what I could tell from the recording, anyway!)

I love Spike's 'talking' hee hee. He makes the cutest sounds! And yay for a return of a song from the movies, Adventuring!

The plot was pretty good too. I think traveling to see the gysers is cute and a believeable thing for the kids to do. Petrie's character remains a little over the top, but I can live with it. He's cute.  :P: Plus he mentioned Uncle Pterano! Yay!

My only problem is that in this episode they made the Mysterious Beyond into some normal place that isn't mysterious at all. Firstly, they never show how the kids got out there. It's supposed to be blocked off from the Valley, isn't it? Secondly, the kids never once mention that the adults don't want them to go out there or ask the adults permission, and from what we've seen of the movies we know that is true. We never see the adults in this episode at all, so we don't know their reaction. The episode ends before the kids really return home, so we don't see the kids getting in trouble for being out there.

So is the series going to make the Mysterious Beyond just another setting for the kids to go to and have adventures? Time will tell, I suppose!
does anyone know if and how littlefoot got the "ground prickely"  out of his foot?  I don't think they said he ever did.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Ptyra on January 01, 2008, 04:37:31 AM
Pterano would be RUINED if Michel York did not play him! Michel York became my favorite brit. actor because of him (he amuses in 3 Musketeers)
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: landbeforetimelover on January 01, 2008, 06:37:33 AM
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does anyone know if and how littlefoot got the "ground prickely" out of his foot? I don't think they said he ever did.

I've watched it over and over and I still don't see how he got it out of his foot.  I think they just forgot to put in an explanation of that. :rolleyes:
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on January 01, 2008, 12:35:07 PM
They tend to do that a lot, forget certain things they established before hand.  So it's obvious they have no one who looks over the episode in its rough cut and tells them they have to redo something.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on February 03, 2008, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: pokeplayer984,Feb 4 2007 on  09:15 AM
Now, let me comment on the bad luck thing.  In LBT 6, didn't Petrie say, "Me no believe in bad luck."?  If you ask me, I guess something changed his mind. :D
 
I'm guessing that something was Pterano. Petrie mentioned that Pterano was the one who told him the red tree stars were unlucky, and Pertrie did swallow everything else Pterano ever told him (Or was your smiley implying that you already knew that? I couldn't tell.)

Petrie was driving me nuts in this episode. Every time anything happened, he'd be like, "See, I told you, it bad luck!" After about the 11th time, I was thinking, "Jeez, somebody hit him!"  :slap  

Also, I like the addition of the red tree stars. Though they must be seriously rare, since I can't remember ever seeing them before.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 04, 2008, 12:00:26 AM
I don't recall ever seeing them before.  Though maybe in the great valley they only grow in one spot.
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Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on February 04, 2008, 01:28:46 AM
Maybe, but usually the term "rare" represents hard to find, which means that if they just grew in one spot that everyone (or at least Spike) knew about, they wouldn't be "hard to find."
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 04, 2008, 02:57:27 AM
They may have gotten the term from farwalkers maybe who may have commented on very rarely seeing any red tree stars.  Or flyers since they fly around they may see more areas.
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Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on February 04, 2008, 08:49:16 PM
You're right. Also there's the fact that it was Ruby who called thm 'rare,' and she hasn't been in the Great Valley for long. This may have been the first time she's seen that spot.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 05, 2008, 02:30:11 AM
It could be.  I had forgotten she said that.   She may not have been to that spot and they may be rare in the areas of the mysterious beyond she has been to or heard about.
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Post by: kjeldo on February 05, 2008, 11:40:28 AM
yeah. but what was that brown goo where spike felt in? :huh:
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 05, 2008, 01:08:26 PM
It could have been mud with a lot of sulfur or some other substance that normally stinks.  It  could have also been present in the water shooting from the geysers, hence Chomper being able to comment on the smell from far enough away so Ruby could not smell it.
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Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on February 05, 2008, 07:23:50 PM
That'd also explain why Spike rinsing off in one of the geysers got rid of the mud but not the smell.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 05, 2008, 09:38:44 PM
Diffidently possible, there may be others as well.
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Post by: kjeldo on February 07, 2008, 10:33:18 AM
and it will be a good episode when pterano returns
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 07, 2008, 11:20:45 AM
I wonder if they plan that for for a possible season 2, or if he'll be one of the few who appeared in a movie but not the tv series.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: The Chronicler on February 07, 2008, 08:10:46 PM
Well since Pterano is banished from the valley for now, a probable TV episode might have the gang getting lost in the mysterious beyond and they meet up with him. (I wonder how he'll react when he meets Chomper :lol: )
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 07, 2008, 08:23:37 PM
That would be the best way, instead of trying to say, it's been 5 cold times, when time doesn't really pass much in the lbt universe.
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Post by: lbt/cty_lover on February 07, 2008, 08:24:43 PM
I think that you forgot to mention that Spike saves the day. That is the main reason why I like this episode.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Chikara on February 08, 2008, 05:44:52 AM
Quote from: Kor,Feb 8 2008 on  01:23 AM
That would be the best way, instead of trying to say, it's been 5 cold times, when time doesn't really pass much in the lbt universe.
Not sure I agree with that. The movies and series have shown a couple of cold-times since Pterano left.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 08, 2008, 10:25:38 AM
perhaps, but the gang looks the same age to me.  I'm sure what they do is ignore the passage of time any previous movie may have said happened.  After all if you take all the movies into account, the gang perhaps should be teen agers and they don't act or seem to be teen agers.
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Post by: landbeforetimelover on February 08, 2008, 06:54:55 PM
Pterano should be back by now, but honestly I'm glad he's not.  It might have provided a more interesting plot for LBT 13 though if he'd shown up again.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 08, 2008, 09:59:29 PM
I still don't see the way many thing Pterano should be back by now.  He was likely meant to be a 1 shot character like Pat, Sue, Elsie, and some others.  And if 5 years had passed I still say the kids would be in their younger teens.  It's like a lot of other things, time really does not pass in LBT, it looks like it does, but it really does not.  Like in Peanuts and many other things.  The gang should be much older by now then they are.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: pteranofan on February 10, 2008, 01:14:59 AM
Personally, I'd really like to see Pterano back. It truly has been awhile since we've seen him. But I have to agree with Kor, if he was back, they'd have to be in their younger teens since his sentence was five years.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on February 10, 2008, 08:44:55 AM
The only other way for him to appear is if the gang is outside the great valley and he helped out.   They it would be not the same as if the 5 years were over and he'd have to leave the group at some point.
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Post by: Coyote_A on February 10, 2008, 08:47:42 AM
Besides, there is always can be such a thing as an "early release" for good deeds. ;)
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Post by: landbeforetimelover on February 10, 2008, 08:49:19 AM
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Besides, there is always can be such a thing as an "early release" for good deeds.

I don't think Mr. Threehorn would be too pleased about that. :p
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Post by: kjeldo on February 10, 2008, 12:53:23 PM
i agree
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Post by: Kor on February 10, 2008, 02:15:06 PM
He would not be happy and how would they get word to him.  The mysterious beyond is very dangerous, though in some episodes of the tv series it looks very safe.  It's not like they can call Pterano on the phone or his cell phone and tell him.  Or a psychic can tell them exactly where Pterano will be when they come across him.  Roaming around or flying around in the mysterious beyond on the hopes of coming across Pterano to tell him his punishment is over or has been reduced to only 1 or 2 more cold times isn't very smart nor likely to have them come across him.  And it's unlikely he'd just visit the great valley before the period is up, so likely he'd pop up in the great valley till after the time is up.
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Post by: kjeldo on February 25, 2008, 07:48:44 AM
hahaha! phone! ow that is a good one!
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Post by: The Friendly Sharptooth on May 31, 2009, 01:01:47 AM
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In LBT 6, didn't Petrie say, "Me no believe in bad luck."? If you ask me, I guess something changed his mind.
I completely agree. Perhaps what I find most unusual about this episode is, it seems to be the exact opposite of that scene from The Land Before Time VI: The Secret of Saurus Rock.

Allow me to quote that scene:
Petrie to Littlefoot: Me no believe in bad luck.
Littlefoot to Ducky: Ducky! What happened to your beak?
Ducky to Littlefoot: I got it stuck in a hive of buzzing stingers.
Littlefoot to Ducky: What about Spike's tail?
Ducky to Littlefoot: Same thing.
Littlefoot to Petrie: You don't call that bad luck?
Petrie to Littlefoot: Nah, could happen to anybody.

Throughout this episode, Petrie keeps blaiming all of the gang's misfortunes on bad luck, while Littlefoot is the one who keeps saying that these things just happen. I find the switch in roles rather interesting.
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Post by: Kor on May 31, 2009, 03:02:12 AM
It may be that, or the writers may not remember nor have ever seen that previous movie.
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Post by: Caustizer on May 31, 2009, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: pteranofan,Feb 10 2008 on  12:14 AM
Personally, I'd really like to see Pterano back. It truly has been awhile since we've seen him. But I have to agree with Kor, if he was back, they'd have to be in their younger teens since his sentence was five years.
Then they would have to meet him in the Mysterious Beyond then wouldn't they?

 :smile

They spend so much time there in the tv series it would make sense to come across him at some point.
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Kor on May 31, 2009, 01:31:37 PM
Yes, I think I've mentioned that in some thread somewhere, in any movie after the 7th, or any tv episode where the gang is outside the valley he can appear.  He could have have an appearance in the 9th, 10th, or 13th movies, or quite a few tv episodes.
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Post by: Noname on May 31, 2009, 03:18:58 PM
He is probably too busy to work on another movie... or so I've heard.
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Post by: The Friendly Sharptooth on December 24, 2009, 11:03:28 AM
The main thing that jumped out at me about this episode is a speculation of mine about one of the earlier scenes. If I'm right, Spike is a very thoughtful actor.

In the episode "The Meadow of Jumping Waters" it seems like Ducky underestimated Spike's intelligence. She was saying how clouds looked like sweet bubbles. Spike made a hungry noise, so she "explained" to him that they only look like sweet bubbles but are not. He looked away and narrowed his eyes when she said that, like he was saying, "Uh, obviously." There was even one of those sound effects that made me think, "Duh" when I heard it. Perhaps Spike made the disappointed sound after that so Ducky would still think she had helped him. It did sound a bit like forced disappointment, insincere. If he hadn't responded at all, she'd likely think he didn't hear her, so he chose to respond to keep her happy. It is a pleasent feeling when you've explained something to someone that they "didn't"/didn't know.

In other words, Spike seems like a dinosaur pleaser to me in that episode.
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Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on November 05, 2011, 06:30:35 PM
Stinky but loveable Spike, lol!!  :lol:

Seriously, first Redclaw gets chased off by fruit being thrown at him, now he runs off because of a stinky spiketail?! What a sissy!! Geez, Chomper and Ruby! You say he's the meanest and most vicious to ever live? I doubt he could take down so much as a yellow-belly!! (Well, maybe...they are pretty---I'm not even sre if stupid is the right word cause that would be putting it mildly...) I'd like to see the original Sharptooth kick his ass!
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Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on November 05, 2011, 07:01:33 PM
Littlefoot was such a jerk when he went like "It wasn't good luck it was good thinking" Gee, does everything have to be perfect w/ him now????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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In LBT 6, didn't Petrie say, "Me no believe in bad luck."? If you ask me, I guess something changed his mind.

Petrie does change his mindin 6; when the sticks fell down on them he was like, "Petrie believe..."
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on February 18, 2012, 12:31:53 AM
From what I can tell (I haven't seen the whole episode) it didn't even mention the "bad luck" of LBT 6, which really sucks since that's the whole point of this episode as well. Is there anything wrong with a little continuity?  :confused

Also, if they had, they could have done a reprise of "Bad Luck" (one of the  funnest LBT songs of all time  :smile ) like they did of a whole bunch of other songs. But they didn't. Why?

Oh well, they'd probably screw up my vision of it like they did to "Big Water" in LBT 9... <_<
Title: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Ducky123 on April 06, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
This is a rather interesting episode to say the least. The renaissance of the good ol' "Bad Luck". Petrie, as always in the Tv-series, is being a scaredy-egg.

I must say that the episode had quite some action in it (although it quickly becomes ridiculous :rolleyes:) and they didn't fail to build in some humourous comments like Cera's "worse than usual" or Littlefoot's "Thanks... Ducky!" :DD

Overall, there isn't anything that bugs me much. Spike chasing Redclaw away due to smelling awful is kind of lame but, on the other hand, not that bad an idea... While Redclaw is everything but threatening here, it sure does entertain the kids, I reckon :smile
Title: Re: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: StardustSoldier on December 30, 2019, 04:00:46 PM
For my final LBT review of 2019, today I will be taking a look at "The Meadow of Jumping Waters".

The initial setup – the Gang taking a walk to go see some shooting water – was kinda mundane. Although I do like that they revisited the theme of bad luck, a concept previously explored in The Secret of Saurus Rock. Combined with a comical ending, it helped elevate this into a pretty entertaining episode. I had a good laugh at Red Claw and the Fast Biters' reaction to stinky Spike. Nice that Spike also got to contribute to the conflict's resolution. :DD

Interesting that, even though Pterano doesn't appear in the TV series, he is mentioned in this episode. Perhaps he was intended to appear in a possible second season?

Great exchange:
Cera: "Heh, uncle Pterano? That guy’s full of crazy stories!"
Petrie: "Me know, and me not stop thinking about them!"
Ruby: "So try to think about something you're not thinking about."
Petrie: "Like… what?"

Well, those are all the thoughts I have for now. Have a fantastic 2020 everyone! :wave

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Title: Re: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: Little Bro on June 01, 2020, 01:54:18 PM
     What happened to Petrie? It's bad luck this and bad luck that! It can be funny at times, I'll admit, but Petrie seemed a little ridiculous at times. "This all Spike's fault!" (Falls into water.) 

     I don't get why the jumping water made it into this episode. It seemed like it was there to just be a place for the kids to go see. Didn't add much to the story. I don't get why it's called "Meadow of Jumping Water." The episode seemed to show that bad luck is superstitious, but the name didn't fit that theme. I would give it 4 out 5.
Title: Re: Discuss: The Meadow of Jumping Waters
Post by: StardustSoldier on August 21, 2020, 09:39:27 PM
Re-review time!

I liked the tribal, Africanish music.
Same. :yes And, as trexmaster noted, very appropriate for a prehistoric jungle.

When the gang ran away from the fire...did anyone else think the animation was sped up? Never seen Spike or anyone else run so fast in all my life.
Ah, yeah. I didn't notice that the first time I saw the episode, but it stuck out to me on my rewatch. :wacko

When was the last time fire appeared in the series?  Wasn't it LBT 3?  Why did they keep such a dangerous thing off for so long?  It's so great to use. :^.^:
Haha, I agree. Fire should appear in the series more often.

What happened to Petrie? It's bad luck this and bad luck that! It can be funny at times, I'll admit, but Petrie seemed a little ridiculous at times. "This all Spike's fault!" (Falls into water.)
Indeed. In The Secret of Saurus Rock, I liked the creepy, mystical aspect of the Saurus Rock statue containing a curse. Here, however, it does seem kinda silly that Petrie would be so worried about bad luck being caused by simply eating a certain type of plant. :rolleyes But I do love the bad luck concept in general. Kinda makes me wish the series had used it more often.

I do notice, in both cases, they ultimately left it ambiguous whether it truly was a bad luck curse or if it was just a series of bizarre coincidences.

Speaking of which, I notice this is the first time in the series that we see red tree stars. I've seen fellow GoF members joke about how eating red tree stars is basically their equivalent to consuming hallucinogens. At the time, I only knew about the regular green tree stars and so I thought the concept of red tree stars was just something that someone in the community came up with. I was kinda surprised to later discover that they are actually official LBT canon... albeit probably not with the same psychedelic effects.
:ChomperRWAAR

I don't get why the jumping water made it into this episode. It seemed like it was there to just be a place for the kids to go see. Didn't add much to the story. I don't get why it's called "Meadow of Jumping Water." The episode seemed to show that bad luck is superstitious, but the name didn't fit that theme.
Another good point. I guess the jumping water was there to kickstart the journey in the first place, whereupon everything else happens. But yeah, they already had enough of a plot hook with Red Claw and the bad luck that they could've just built the episode around that.

Overall, though, I thought this episode was pretty good. I give it a 7/10.

I had a good laugh at Red Claw and the Fast Biters' reaction to stinky Spike.
And seeing it a second time made me laugh again. :DD